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How bad is the IE bug?

Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John

Which bug?
I use PIE with PIEPlus 2.2 and it works fine.
It is slow though, compared to my old Magician WM2003SE But thats obvious (WM2003SE is not flash based OS, no persistent-memory, thats why faster).
I am waiting Opera Mobile 9, which I am not sure will ever be released!
Duke Nukem Forever

I don't notice any difference with the Hermes. What bug are you talking about exactly?
By the by: opera mini beta 4 runs great on the Kaiser.
johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit. The page download times are probably on a par with the TyTn. The Touchflo finger scrolling works better (once you get the hang of it).
Opera Mini works faster and scrolls OK.
Mike

Im not having any issues with PIE in general and I'm already getting used to the scroll feature. In fact I picked up my Trinity today and found it annoying when I had to use those fiddly scroll bars.
I wonder how it compares to the experience on the new iPod Touch?
I heard from a friend that the browsing experience on that was very intuitive - but then he is an apple nerd!
My bigger issue with the Tytn II is still the radio used. I am having real problems with the gprs/3G switch and both phone and internet connection have major problems coping when I am in 1 or 2 bars of 3G.
And I am still rarely getting a full 3G signal which was not the probelm with the later radios I have on my Tytn and Trinity.
I will try my Vodafone SIM tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.

gogol said:
Duke Nukem Forever
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you read my mind

duke911 said:
you read my mind
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"What ya waitin for Christmas"
Mike

mikechannon said:
Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit.
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this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...

Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?

New ROM will not fix that because it will be still the same IE.
IE is just slow, that's all.
Try Opera Mini and enjoy the super fast browsing experience.
You will never look back to IE, trust me.
johnk1973 said:
this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
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Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
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Phew! Took a bit of work, but worth it
All thats left is for it to be set as the default browser and take links from emails.
Cheers for that buddy.

The shortcut part just doesn't work for me. I use Esmertec and my shortcut based on what I see in the appsdb folder is
#30"\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s3_
Whatever I do it gives me the message - Could not find MIDlet suite s3_
The file in appsdb is s3_suite.jar. Even still, I tried from number s0_ to s3_ to no avail.
Hope somebody can help.

gogol said:
Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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I get that same error - unable to find Suite 0 or 1 or whatever I put in.
Also the change in the selector file has my OperaMini still asking for permission. Any suggestions????
Thanks

Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?

jackjohnson said:
Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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i could only get it to work witn Cloudyfa's JBed, not with the default JMM.

I finally got it to work with Cloudyfa's JBed. For some reason, JBed wasn't installed properly. It wasn't showing up and Remove Programs. I reinstalled it, reinstalled Opera, applied the shortcut/network warning fix, and all is working perfectly.
For other people having this problem, make sure JBed is showing up in the Programs list and in Remove Programs before you install Opera. Seemed to do the trick.

I will be doing all of this tonight, Thanks for the tips.

Same here, I too get the error message could not find suite s0_. The number is correct, but i noticed i dont have any .jar files in the appdb folder... Any ideas?

I also didn't have any .jar files in my appdb folder. I did see some files with s2_ extensions (eg. s2_.jah and _s2.obj) so I changed my suite link to s2_ and it worked. Once I got the link to work, I then copied the selector.utf file from appdb to my PC and ran the Fix.exe editor on it and copied it back to the Kaiser. Works perfectly with no more permission dialog, thanks so much for sharing!
My squence;
1-Install Jbed
2-Install Opera Mini and test to verify it works.
3-Create link in programs folder and test
4-Copy off selector.utf and "fix", copy back and it should all be good, with no more permissions required.
5-Map the program link to a hard key.
6-Crack a cold beverage of choice, life is good

Opera mini 4 final is out!

just an announcement!

princeasi said:
just an announcement!
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Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.

Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...

How much different is it from the Beta?

godfa7h3r said:
Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...
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Just connect from Kaiser PIE, and download it... it is java Midlet based browser... so no CAB nor EXE to install....
Cheers.

They don't have the kaiser listed yet but the one we want is the "advanced version", which is the one that all the other WM devices use. You don't want the "basic" one. It still prompts you for the stupid "trusted application" every time, I'll just have to hack the reg once again.
The best part: It displays the FULL web page in the browse. Not some hacked up, trimmed down page, but the full page. You then click on the area of the page you want to browse and it zooms in. You can then scroll around using your fingers (think touchFlo) or hit the magnifying glass to zoom out. Yes, it is kinda like the iphone, but it does work very nice.

jcespi2005 said:
Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.
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Well im using it now as i type and so far so good. But main test is with the cookies handeling, becuz with the last beta i noticed that while browsing profiles in myspace, opera mini would log me off after awhile. Still testing, ill report after im finished

About time!
Very Nice... As soon as the cab version comes out it will be even better!
Opera 9!!
anyone know the release date?!

It prompts for net access even with the high memory version.

How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.

greenbep said:
How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.
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Open up JBed, click menu, and hit "uninstall all".

This is my very first time using opera mini, and I must say I like it. Its working really well so far. One handed browsing is simple. Web pages look alot better, and work out better. One setting I changed was to make images medium quality instead of low. Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.

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Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.
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...only much much better!!!!

opera mini 4 advanced .jar download save then install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jar
opera mini 4 .jad download and install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jad
the .jad you need to download with your mobile, the .jar is a pc download

Ok, one problem I see thus far. I can't save images. (I like to be able to download images)
Am I missing something?

everthing is perfect..except i cant watch youtube videos, download images, and wish if somehow they make the address entry more user friendly also the enter button. Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.

Desiflare999 said:
Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.
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plz search.

ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!

mcculleyandJen said:
ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!
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was that in the terms and conditions? if so its just a warning that data charges can occur while using it if your network applies charges for data. if your on a data plan then dont worry it wont cost anything extra.

It's a java app, so, it won't be avail as a cab file. Opera Mobile is, Opera Mini is not. This is Opera Mini (which I love).

Opera Mni 4.1 Beta is out

http://www.operamini.com/beta/
suppose to load pages up to 50% faster. Auto suggests URL completions and new search feature. Also lets you save web pages to view offline and manages uploads and downloads from and to your phone.
Edit: testing now will report back tomorrow.

Thanks.
Testing now. It seems to be nice

Simply amazing
Using it right now and I must say it is freaking super-fast at page rendering!! I love this browser. Makes me love my Kaiser all over again....great job Opera!!

Which one did you guys download, the JAR or JAD? What's the difference?

Is pretty damn fast.

Browser is kick ass and lightning fast, i did notice a bug though. When entering an web address, you cant backspace. You have to open up the entire text input box by selecting 'insert symbol' in the drop down to correct yourself. Other than that, I didnt notice any bugs. this seems good enough to consider this my main browser, at least for now. Microsoft, Skyfire, and Netfront will have their hands full with this version

I'm using this browser for now. It's quick!

which java is everyone using?

I saw this post this morning and have been using it all day. WOW! It's the fastest broswer I've seen on WM. The only problem I've had is that it can't do drop down list, which is a problem when you visit boards like i do. Other than that, it's amazing.

Wow... crazy fast. Very nice work to the people at Opera. <Golf clap>

Man, that's a sweet find. Super fast.

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Man, that's a sweet find. Super fast.
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Maybe thats why my opera's been crashing...maybe not.
Edit:It actually sucks. It keeps freezing and giving me a white page.
Edit 2: Wow, now even 4.0 crashes...this sucks.

Just tried opera mini 4.1 on my HTC Touch. The browsing is VERY fast, but I've had opera mobile 9.5 for a day, and I have to say it's the best thing out there.

Seems to be about the same speed as 4.0 for me, maybe a tad faster with a few more options to choose from. I like it just for the extra options, no real speed diference here. using udk's 4/1/08 rom, i think its just basic midlet manager thats included in the rom thats running the java apps.

I cant figure out how to install it

The good, this version adds the option of not asking for network connection promission everytime it access the internet with out any hacks.
The bad, when entering the web address URL, there's no option for the software keyboard to pop up. If I use quick menu to open the the software keyboard (TouchPal) the last key I input repeats itself such as the dot and the space.
Aftering installing 4.1, I managed to open 4.0 and 41 at the same time. I thought this version allow 2 java apps open at once but I could never repeat it again.

WOW!!
This is fast as hell.

cproaudio said:
The good, this version adds the option of not asking for network connection promission everytime it access the internet with out any hacks.
The bad, when entering the web address URL, there's no option for the software keyboard to pop up. If I use quick menu to open the the software keyboard (TouchPal) the last key I input repeats itself such as the dot and the space.
Aftering installing 4.1, I managed to open 4.0 and 41 at the same time. I thought this version allow 2 java apps open at once but I could never repeat it again.
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when you're entering new address, tap that bar and select the 'insert a symbol' option... it takes you to the old text field and you can type or write...
This Opera Mini version rocks so hard!!
image if it could handle ajax, scripts, flash and flashvideo... it would be amazing...

problems 'connecting to the internet'
Sometimes i get the 'cannot connect to the internet' message and sometimes I ca connect. I am using a french SFR operator with the 'illimitix' subscription (full and ilimited internet acces over a wap sort of connexion). Anybody has this problem? What to do?

JSR-75
Hi everyone,
I tested this new version it's very fast (how could the people from opera do to improve the display speed ?) !
But in the list of features, i saw the possibility to save a web pages, but unfortunately it doesn't work on my kaiser.
I need to installe something else ? (JSR-75 ?). I use the JBED java executor,
build 200708xxx
Help !
thanx

Standard Opera on Xperia

Does anyone know how to change the standard opera to make it view regular size webpages instead of only viewing mobile pages. I know there is a setting in settings but apparently that isn't making a difference. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Solved thanks to d0ubl3_d1zzl3
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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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I don't have a problem with that, Always shows the "real" homepage, even youtube after installing the flash lite

hmm really?? everytime i go to youtube it takes me to m.youtube.com. Shoot even google goes to the mobile webpage. i wonder if i need to install flashlite to correct this? That doesn't make any sense though.

Try installing flashlite and see if its get any better =)

Didn't do a thing. When i got to youtube it takes me to m.youtube.com am i the only one with this problem?

Have you clicked on the link at the bottom which takes you to the full site and stores a cookie on your phone telling YouTube to send you to the full version next time?

Trying that as we speak

Yup just tried it and it works for youtube but other websites it doesn't. Like when i go to myspace and i click on view full desktop page it doesn't do anything besides go right back to the page i started at. I'm not sure what is going but it seems like maybe their are two different opera builds on these xperias. I wonder if that is possible
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I think it is the website i'm going to. Some just have errors i think. Has anyone tried to use orb.com? I can get it stream perfectly with IE but with Opera it tries to open it and it just crashes.

Orb works ok on opera for me as long as i can get a 3g signal

Everytime i try and use orb on opera it just crashes and closes. Did it work for you straight out of the box?

Since this thread is labelled in a general fashion, I'm not gonna open a new thread for my question, which is:
anybody managed to upgrade to a more recent Opera build?
The ones available work as in being able to browse the web, but they are buggy regarding keyboard input for example.

I upgraded to a newer version and it was extremely buggy. It crashed on me a couple of times. I like this one designed for the xperia. I don't like xperia's standard settings but after u change the settings its cool

One of the nice features of the touch pro was that the back button in opera was mapped to a hardware button. Is it possible to do this with the Xperia?

Yes straight out the box

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I still have an issue. I can get it to stream but its really laggy through opera unless i use this pls winamp format but then i get errors here and there. I run it through IE and it streams perfectly. I've spent about 2 hrs going through the settings trying to find the cause of it but i can't seem to find it. When you use orb what format are u streaming in and what player are u using?

Windows media format (.asx)
and windows media player on the phone

hmmm i don't know why my video lags so much even on wifi. Audio comes in perfect whatever video i play is horrible unless i use IE. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this?

Could the orb be playing up, I just tried on wifi on both opera and ie and only managed to get streaming work once out of a few attempts. Kept getting server is busy.

How can I reinstall the SE Opera version? Where's the cab at? I managed to bugger up my version and now it won't load

Do a hard reset

new texting keyboard for 240x320 myns vogue?

i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.

I use the free ShapeWriter keyboard found in the Android Market.
Hope this helps.

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i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.
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If you want only the english language...you can ignure the steps with language... But you must change to 120 dpi and change the dialer (contacts.apk)....look here:
Htc ime... it´s a long way....
Start....:
Installation Instructions
1. Install both HTC_IME.apk and Clicker.apk.
2. Rename/remove the file /system/lib/libt9.so (I suggest renaming to libt9bk.so). You need root permissions to do this (the program Root Explorer works great.)
3. Menu -> Settings -> Locale & text. Enable 'Touch Input'.
4. Go to a text field and long-hold until a menu pops up.
5. Select 'Input Method' and then 'Touch Input'
1.1 Download the latest htc ime from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525
2.1 make the system root/write access to change the name of libt9
- open terminal
- type "su"
- type "mount -o remount,rw /system"
... and then I could rename the file w/ Root Explorer (must be root explorer..i think)
3.1 change the language: look here:
http://ostebaronen.dk/changing-htc_ime-language-to-danish/
a bit easier: change to htc ime...go to sms and long press on the input text...now a menu come and you can change....
go in a explorer to: data/data/com.htc.android.htcime/shared_prefs/com.htc.android.htcime_preferences.xml (now visible)--and copy it to sd card...
open the xml and change the language code (like in the link)....copy it over the old one....
please do not change the lang setting in text input settings...(you don´t see a lang in this box now)
i think it was all
edit: for the correct view: change to 120 dpi....and take my corrected dialer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676102
Now it´s all...i hope

Super easy, you can get the HTC keyboard in 240x320.
Just follow the instructions,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525
You will need to d/l the two files and install root explorer.

I'm curious - why do folks like the HTC one better?

berardi said:
I'm curious - why do folks like the HTC one better?
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Because we have now QWERTY(Z) compact qwerty and this is what i like a normal phone keypad...like a normal mobile phone
edit: @ GeJohnO...sorry..2nd link from me is the same...i only have a bigger statement because of language collect all important info´s and correct the 110 dpi issue (HTC_IME looks not good in 110 dpi)
With kind regards..Alex

personally i like the HTC keyboard because i feel the text prediction better because of the clicker.apk includes a calibration app and it seems to adapt to me alot fast than other keyboards.
i also like that if i want to use a number or symbol i can just long hold on a key instead of having to switch to a secondary menu all the time
also staticchmbr i feel like i know you from somewhere?

staticchmbr said:
i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.
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That's your problem. You have a 240x320 hardware screen on the Vogue, and you are trying to use a resolution that it is not meant for. I do not understand why people think they can do this, and still expect things to function. First of all, you do not NEED the extra resolution, I run about 20 games and 15 apps on my phone, of all different sources, and 240x320 is fine. Secondly, use LCD density "113", just change the build.prop file before flashing NAND, and you are good to go. I have zero issues at all, with any apps.
-C

i AM running the 240x320, but tried the 320x480 just in case that was the issue. finally got it installed, but everytime i run the calibration it says" SORRY, the application has stopped unexpectedly. please try again".. maybe i just dont have the right file? i got it from another topic on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525&page=5

Can someone please tell me what is wrong with the default Android keyboard? I am 6'7" tall, and my hands are HUGE. My pinky is bigger than my wife's thumb, and I actually text with MY thumb, just fine, which is friggin huge, and I have no issues.
I am just baffled, because I see these 'alternate keyboard' threads all the time, so obviously there must be an issue for some ppl with the keyboard, but I guess for once it is not for us fat-fingers folks. Is it hard to use for small fingers maybe? I am so curious about this as the Android keyboard is such a breeze for me to use.
-C

I agree. I prefer the default keyboard myself.
It's faster too

eh, maybe im just not coordinated enough lol

myn said:
I agree. I prefer the default keyboard myself.
It's faster too
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Yeah, I love the speed of the default keyboard. I've tried Betterkeyboard, and all those, Shapewriter, I think just about every one, and while some are cool, and hold potential, for me none compare to the speed of input in the default. I can type pretty damn fast with the default.
The only keyboard I can see being significantly better is Touchpal. If you remember it from Winmo, it was a FAST and efficient keyboard. But the developer keeps promising a release date, and renigging on it. If you feel like a laugh, go check out the forums:
http://cootek.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=10&SID=bff29cde36b6374zz3cbc61f3b3dc8cz

berardi said:
Yeah, I love the speed of the default keyboard. I've tried Betterkeyboard, and all those, Shapewriter, I think just about every one, and while some are cool, and hold potential, for me none compare to the speed of input in the default. I can type pretty damn fast with the default.
The only keyboard I can see being significantly better is Touchpal. If you remember it from Winmo, it was a FAST and efficient keyboard. But the developer keeps promising a release date, and renigging on it. If you feel like a laugh, go check out the forums:
http://cootek.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=10&SID=bff29cde36b6374zz3cbc61f3b3dc8cz
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have you tried better keyboard?

inertone said:
have you tried better keyboard?
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Yeah I really couldn't find the appeal what do you like about it?