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There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver
There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks
You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.
I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini
Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it
Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.
Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?
As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform
WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)
Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.
Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?
picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html
dolbe said:
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?
MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.
Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".
Has anyone figured out how to use the Tytn II's jog dial to zoom dynamically in Opera Mobile 9.5 like on the Diamond? Double tapping the screen is nice, but with a 2.8in screen and QVGA, zooming into 100% really leaves us with a small viewing area. I would like to easily zoom in/zoom out to what ever level I want like Diamond users can using their touch scroll wheel/jog dial, or like iPhone users can using multi-touch pinching on their capacitative screens.
What I know so far:
-input.ini (located in \Application Data\Opera 9.5) has options to change the hardware key configurations, but I haven't had much success in playing around with it, except for getting the font to zoom using the wheel.
-navigating to opera:config in Opera's address bar gives a ton of options, including some that control zoom behavior. But I haven't seen anything that let you assign keys to zooming.
-opera.ini (located in \Application Data\Opera 9.5) has some zoom control options.
that would be really awesome someones gotta build a tweak for this!! for skyfire as well because watching like a youtube video is difficult cus default zoom zooms in too much so its hard to get a full screen ...
As far as I know our wheel is directly "connected" to the "joystick" (the 4 directions pad under the screen). So even if somebody find a solution, it will disable the scroll possibility.
But your right, even with that, it could be a great feature.
There is also the possibility to use the latest build from Opera 9.5 (1957) taken from an Omnia, here.
If you scroll up / down on the right of your screen, you can now zoom in/out .
deuzeff said:
There is also the possibility to use the latest build from Opera 9.5 (1957) taken from an Omnia, here.
If you scroll up / down on the right of your screen, you can now zoom in/out .
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The new zoom feature in opera is brilliant.
here's a little image
Nice find! But it looks buggy, and the sizing seems optimized for the Omnia (given that there is overlap between the zoom bar and Opera menu button).
Two bits of info though.
1. In HTC Album, the jog dial (at least on the Touch Cruise) functions independently of the D-pad directions. Jog dial zooms, whereas D-Pad pans. So the functions can be separated.
2. In the Diamond, the jog wheel doesn't function as a jog wheel by default. It actually does absolutely nothing in most of the interface. If you want it to function, it has to be hacked to do so by specifying the programs in which you want it to function in the registry (HKLM/Software/HTC/SmartTouch/)
It's funny to see this thread as i was thinking the same thing a few months ago when i first got opera 9.
If this could be done, that would be really awesome.
samz465 said:
It's funny to see this thread as i was thinking the same thing a few months ago when i first got opera 9.
If this could be done, that would be really awesome.
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I think that by the time it leaves beta then they're going to have the zoom sorted...
Oh and a nice Opera Widget collection would be nice as well
Is there any way to zoom in Opera Mobile?
Are you guys using 6.1 roms? I for the life of me cannot get any build of 9.5 to run.
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Is there any way to zoom in Opera Mobile?
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Yes, if you use the official 9.5 beta available on the website (and I'd guess any other build) you can just double tap the screen to zoom in or out. Otherwise, you can go through the menu system to zoom in/out in increments.
Sideburnt said:
Are you guys using 6.1 roms? I for the life of me cannot get any build of 9.5 to run.
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This may or may not help as I have a Touch Cruise (Polaris), but I'm using an official WM6 ROM, and the official 9.5 Beta available on the Opera website.
today i read a news about a new upcoming browser named skyfire.
and what i am asking me: when the open beta comes to my country and i install it on my diamond... can i change the default browser für touchflo3d?
here is a version i tried using. only half the screen is skyfire and the other half is today screen. check it out. maybe it works for you.
Skyfire is a pretty good web browser for mobile phones. It was apparently found to be the fastest - mostly because it renders the pages from a central server.
I believe you have to register with them to fully use the software (you need a Skyfire account).
Also, there is a new release, but it still does not support VGA devices yet.
- Keirmeister
yes but can i change the default browser in touch flo 3d?
maybe in some time no one wants to use opera and all want to use skyfire.
seemts that its just a simple shortcut to change.
Skyfire is not compatible to VGA right now.
I tried out Skyfire on my diamond and there is a workaround the half screen problem. Other than the fact that flash works, i don't think it is better than Opera 9.5 at least not until a VGA version comes out.
I uninstalled Skyfire and now I have the problem where PIE is now my default browser instead of Opera. Whenever I tap on a link on my rss reader or email, it goes to PIE by default. Is there a way to change my default browser back to opera?
Just Re-run the WM_6_HTC_PPC_Opera9.cab in your windows directory, and it will re-install Opera and fix the link issues. Your bookmarks, history and other browsing data will not be harmed.
Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
Hi,
Installed on my MDA Compact and it works well. However, it won't connect using wifi.
Any solutions?
Regards
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Skyfire 0.85 is out, with VGA support. Just tried it and it works like a dream on my Diamond, even able to watch top gear on iPlayer with it.
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I just downloaded it too and mananged to get a video playing from the iPlayer but I don't get any sound. Did you have any issues with sound at all?
(I'm on Dutty's V3.2 ROM)
To answer another question the latest version works on VGA but allegedly not on WVGA so Touch HD users may be disappointed. You can download it here http://get.skyfire.com/ and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
andy2111 said:
and yes, Skyfire asks you if you want to make it the default browser.
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Maybe... but uninstalling it even when it's not default resets your default browser to PIE. Which sucks.
i cannot download it,has anybody have vga cab?
Just open http://get.skyfire.com/ in your mobile browser, you'll get to download the cab directly from the phone!
i have opened it 100 times but i cant download,it always get me back to getskyfire.com.
i am not in usa,i am in europe,can somebody please post/upload cab???
Yes, here u go....
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
new beta version Skyfire
Code:
[URL="http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html"]http://rapidshare.com/files/184957818/skyfire085beta.CAB.html[/URL]
intel286 said:
man flash is amazing,speed even more amazing.
but everything is too muggy,i mean letters and all that is hard to read?!?
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This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
intx said:
This is because unlike PIE/Opera Mobile, skyfire downloads the webpage on a regular pc, then sends you "an image" of the website, in a low quality.
So it's not actually that fast, zooming and panning are weak on it.
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can i somehow change thiis?
or can i get flash in opera?
You can get flash in opera mobile
Check the developments and hacking forum on XDA, it's near the top.
Look for Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 and a compatible Opera build =]
I downloaded Opera mobile 9.51. Whenever I exit opera, it opens Opera Widgets (sort of a menu). What the heck is that and how do I disable it. I deleted wgtman.exe from Program Files/Opera Mobile Beta but it still keep opening that widget window. Very annoying. I do not want widget. Please help.
I'd like an answer to this as well, I did a lot of searching but found nothing.
I hate Opera Widgets. I don't believe there is a way to get rid of them other than to change Opera versions. I used this custom build for a long time, and I really like it. It supports 10 tabs instead of 3, and gets pages quite quickly. Except for an annoying bug where the screen rotates 90 degrees which occurs if you tap a taskbar icon (like the sound icon), it works really well.
Dave
yea thats a bug. if you close opera using the x button or the task manager you get opera widgets and then it wont close but if u go to exit on the opera menu, you wont have that problem.
The normal builds also support 10 tabs, just change the max. number of tabs in opera:config (enter opera:config as the URL). Alas, the normal builds also still have the annoying rotation bug as well as the bug where I cannot enter umlauts on the hardware keyboard.
From my experience, I've never found an Opera build that had any tab-related setting in Opera:Config. The reason NFSFan's build is so special is because tab settings are normally hard coded into Opera, so you couldn't have more than usually 3 tabs, at least every version I've used.
Dave
I'm not sure about older versions, but the 9.5 betas currently available at http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/ certainly support 10 tabs. http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/20...-5-how-to-increase-the-maximum-number-of-tabs also has this info.
Oh, maybe that's why. The one I'm using is cooked into my ROM, and the ones I've used before it were all from other devices like the Diamond, Omina, etc.
Dave
just bought a TD2 yesturday and managed to flash dutty's holy grail r6.
I used to have the xperia and didn't like it. I'm having a similar feeling with the diamond 2; they both looked good on screen. I think its just Windows Mobile thats uncomfortable. Also, capacitive > resistive. The only reason i can remotely even use this phone is because of my fingerNAILS. When you use an iPod touch for over a year, you'll start to notice the difference of responsiveness.
Some questions I have; help is appreciated:
1) Word Mobile can't turn sideways to use the landscape keyboard? Is there a way to be able to make EVERYTHING go landscape (when i tilt the phone), including the homescreens? (xperia was able to when i slide out the keyboard)
2) Why are there those unnecessary up, down, left, right, arrow keys on the keyboard? I never use them and they have become hindrances. When I go on windows live messenger and use the landscape keyboard, I cant see what im typing because the keyboard takes up almost the whole screen.
3) Can i have more then 15 favorite contacts in the contacts grid tab? (i have manila 2.5)
4) Some of my songs are in another language, so their names are in blocks of letters (when i play them in the music player) instead of proper symbols (chinese, etc).
5) Even after upgrading to dutty's rom, the phone still feels sluggish (music player), SLOW, unresponsive at times. None of my above inquiries would be a problem if the phone was super fast; it would compensate for all faults.
arikado said:
just bought a TD2 yesturday and managed to flash dutty's holy grail r6.
I used to have the xperia and didn't like it. I'm having a similar feeling with the diamond 2; they both looked good on screen. I think its just Windows Mobile thats uncomfortable. Also, capacitive > resistive. The only reason i can remotely even use this phone is because of my fingerNAILS. When you use an iPod touch for over a year, you'll start to notice the difference of responsiveness.
Some questions I have; help is appreciated:
1) Word Mobile can't turn sideways to use the landscape keyboard? Is there a way to be able to make EVERYTHING go landscape (when i tilt the phone), including the homescreens? (xperia was able to when i slide out the keyboard)
2) Why are there those unnecessary up, down, left, right, arrow keys on the keyboard? I never use them and they have become hindrances. When I go on windows live messenger and use the landscape keyboard, I cant see what im typing because the keyboard takes up almost the whole screen.
3) Can i have more then 15 favorite contacts in the contacts grid tab? (i have manila 2.5)
4) Some of my songs are in another language, so their names are in blocks of letters (when i play them in the music player) instead of proper symbols (chinese, etc).
5) Even after upgrading to dutty's rom, the phone still feels sluggish (music player), SLOW, unresponsive at times. None of my above inquiries would be a problem if the phone was super fast; it would compensate for all faults.
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1. Download TD2 Tools, there is a G-Config menu that allows you to specify what rotates.
2. We lost navigation keys with the invent of the scroll bar so.... They got to be somewhere. Change your SIP will resolve this. I use Touch Pal.
3. No. 15 Comntracts is all you can load in teh contacts tab, however you can download Max Manila Themes which will give you 20 shortcuts on your home screen that can be assigned to additional contacts.
4. I know Dutty has language support but not sure how that works. Sorry.
5. I have no issues with this ROM other than the WM6.5 SMS slowdown bug.
I assume you have followed protocol and hard reset after flash?
When you first go to Pics or Music tab, it will be slow at first until everything caches.
Hope this helps. Once you check out max Manila Themes you'll be much happier.
Bruce Inman said:
1. Download TD2 Tools, there is a G-Config menu that allows you to specify what rotates.
2. We lost navigation keys with the invent of the scroll bar so.... They got to be somewhere. Change your SIP will resolve this. I use Touch Pal.
3. No. 15 Comntracts is all you can load in teh contacts tab, however you can download Max Manila Themes which will give you 20 shortcuts on your home screen that can be assigned to additional contacts.
4. I know Dutty has language support but not sure how that works. Sorry.
5. I have no issues with this ROM other than the WM6.5 SMS slowdown bug.
I assume you have followed protocol and hard reset after flash?
When you first go to Pics or Music tab, it will be slow at first until everything caches.
Hope this helps. Once you check out max Manila Themes you'll be much happier.
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Thanks for the reply Bruce
1) I downloaded the TD2 tools, and added pocketword and wordpad to the whitelist in G-sensor. However, it doesnt work after reseting the phone and they disappear on the list when i go back to check. Same issue with "Enable touchflo3D in landscape".
2) is there another way to change the keyboard? one with unnescessary arrow keys (and other keys) and BIGGER qwerty but LESSER space taken up
5) Ahh, i just feel SO frustrated at the unresponsiveness of these phones. Even after upgrading to a nice rom (dutty's) i dont understand why WinMo is so uncomfortable to use.
Its ridiuclous to type with the onscreen keyboard, both portrait and landscape. Has anyone tried the Hero's? because its capacitive, it actually reads my fingers. I have to grow my fingernails to use this phone productively.
I bought this phone to use it's Word capabilities, calendar appointments, and live messenger, not to mention the very important SMS.
but each one of these has their own faults.
word wont rotate, calendar won't either, i cant see what im typing on messenger, and SMS is slow.
Its ABSURD.
Is there a way to delete or change something in the phone that makes the phone go FASTER? or rather the typing on the keyboard
Another ISSUE.....
Why on EARTH can't I play music (TouchFlo's music player) with the screen off (sleep mode)?? Once i press the power to sleep, the music stops.
If you want an good audio player that also allows you to turn off the screen, must you use Nitrogen.
Swype, instead, is a keyboard that has keys sufficiently large and it don't has the arrow keys.
luigug said:
If you want an good audio player that also allows you to turn off the screen, must you use Nitrogen.
Swype, instead, is a keyboard that has keys sufficiently large and it don't has the arrow keys.
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I like the HTC music player, and to not use other ones. Is there anyway to make the music player during sleep mode??
I'm also familiar with that Swype method but I'm really just interested in a normal qwerty keyboard with large, responsive keys that dont take up so much of the screen.
Thanks for the suggestions though
can you guys please help me? im really in the verge of selling this phone (but its hard to sell it)
However, with the stock rom wm 6.5, if you have setted the deactivation of pda after for example 1 minute, after this period the device will sleep and the htc player will continue to work.
For the input, you also can try Resco keyboard or the other lot of keyboards for wm.
The strength of winmo, unlike other operative systems, is that you can always find a solution to everything ...
Some quick comments:
4) If you are looking specifically for Chinese (CHT/CHS) I use a cab file found on XDA... do a quick search for "uhei00m-gray.cab" file and this should help you. Works well for Touch HD Leo ROMs and my wife's TD2's stock 6.5 ROM.
5) I have use dutty's Leo ROM in my Touch HD before, and the sluggish-ness is due to the Leo build (cover-flow). My wife's 6.5 stock rom (without cover flow) works find without any delay/sluggishness. Keep in mind, the Leo ROM was built for HD2 with has 1GHz CPU to handle the intense graphics.
2) Keyboard, I have been using the TD2 & THD keyboard without the need for finger nail. I think just like iPhone, it takes some time to ramp up (2-3 weeks) when I used it for a short-while.
Good luck, and I think the form factor for TD2 is great! (especially for my wife who cannot stand THD size).