Has anyone figured out how to use the Tytn II's jog dial to zoom dynamically in Opera Mobile 9.5 like on the Diamond? Double tapping the screen is nice, but with a 2.8in screen and QVGA, zooming into 100% really leaves us with a small viewing area. I would like to easily zoom in/zoom out to what ever level I want like Diamond users can using their touch scroll wheel/jog dial, or like iPhone users can using multi-touch pinching on their capacitative screens.
What I know so far:
-input.ini (located in \Application Data\Opera 9.5) has options to change the hardware key configurations, but I haven't had much success in playing around with it, except for getting the font to zoom using the wheel.
-navigating to opera:config in Opera's address bar gives a ton of options, including some that control zoom behavior. But I haven't seen anything that let you assign keys to zooming.
-opera.ini (located in \Application Data\Opera 9.5) has some zoom control options.
that would be really awesome someones gotta build a tweak for this!! for skyfire as well because watching like a youtube video is difficult cus default zoom zooms in too much so its hard to get a full screen ...
As far as I know our wheel is directly "connected" to the "joystick" (the 4 directions pad under the screen). So even if somebody find a solution, it will disable the scroll possibility.
But your right, even with that, it could be a great feature.
There is also the possibility to use the latest build from Opera 9.5 (1957) taken from an Omnia, here.
If you scroll up / down on the right of your screen, you can now zoom in/out .
deuzeff said:
There is also the possibility to use the latest build from Opera 9.5 (1957) taken from an Omnia, here.
If you scroll up / down on the right of your screen, you can now zoom in/out .
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The new zoom feature in opera is brilliant.
here's a little image
Nice find! But it looks buggy, and the sizing seems optimized for the Omnia (given that there is overlap between the zoom bar and Opera menu button).
Two bits of info though.
1. In HTC Album, the jog dial (at least on the Touch Cruise) functions independently of the D-pad directions. Jog dial zooms, whereas D-Pad pans. So the functions can be separated.
2. In the Diamond, the jog wheel doesn't function as a jog wheel by default. It actually does absolutely nothing in most of the interface. If you want it to function, it has to be hacked to do so by specifying the programs in which you want it to function in the registry (HKLM/Software/HTC/SmartTouch/)
It's funny to see this thread as i was thinking the same thing a few months ago when i first got opera 9.
If this could be done, that would be really awesome.
samz465 said:
It's funny to see this thread as i was thinking the same thing a few months ago when i first got opera 9.
If this could be done, that would be really awesome.
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I think that by the time it leaves beta then they're going to have the zoom sorted...
Oh and a nice Opera Widget collection would be nice as well
Is there any way to zoom in Opera Mobile?
Are you guys using 6.1 roms? I for the life of me cannot get any build of 9.5 to run.
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Is there any way to zoom in Opera Mobile?
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Yes, if you use the official 9.5 beta available on the website (and I'd guess any other build) you can just double tap the screen to zoom in or out. Otherwise, you can go through the menu system to zoom in/out in increments.
Sideburnt said:
Are you guys using 6.1 roms? I for the life of me cannot get any build of 9.5 to run.
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This may or may not help as I have a Touch Cruise (Polaris), but I'm using an official WM6 ROM, and the official 9.5 Beta available on the Opera website.
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I am looking for something simple but I am unable to find it.
I have upgraded to WM6 and I want PIE to scroll by line.
That's it.
PIEPLUS 2.2 used to work on WM5 but scrolling behavior is broken on WM6 - now it always scrolls by link ("Like IE").
MULTIIE 4.0 doesn't do it either.
I have tried Picsel and Opera but they have their own shortcomings.
The human brain isn't designed for page scrolling - we need nice smooth incremental scrolling. At least my brain isn't.
Help someone?
Search forum for thread about customizing PIE "KEYS". Relatively simple registry edits or there are tools that will set them up for you.
Cheers!
Apple like scrolling
Mandingo said:
I am looking for something simple but I am unable to find it.
I have upgraded to WM6 and I want PIE to scroll by line.
That's it.
PIEPLUS 2.2 used to work on WM5 but scrolling behavior is broken on WM6 - now it always scrolls by link ("Like IE").
MULTIIE 4.0 doesn't do it either.
I have tried Picsel and Opera but they have their own shortcomings.
The human brain isn't designed for page scrolling - we need nice smooth incremental scrolling. At least my brain isn't.
Help someone?
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Use SPB Pocketplus4
reyjabs said:
Use SPB Pocketplus4
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Or FTouchFlo
tmknight said:
Search forum for thread about customizing PIE "KEYS". Relatively simple registry edits or there are tools that will set them up for you.
Cheers!
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Thanks for the reply, unfortunately these keys just provide for link and page scrolling. Line scrolling with the D-pad means that when you have a screen of text it will always scroll a predictable number of lines, regardless of links on the page.
OK, solved my own problem.
Smooth scrolling (including with finger like iPhone), full page view with zoom in (like Deepfish), full javascript support (unlike Deepfish), nice reformat for one column (unlike PIE).
Full screen too (press the * key).
Which browser? Opera Mini 4 (again) but with a different Java VM this time (allows softkey support, full screen and copy/paste) and now I have exactly the browsing experience I was looking for. Even on a Treo 240x240 screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665&postcount=24
Best of all ... it's free.
yep, very nice browser. Been using v4 since it was released. Esmertec Java works the best for me (looks like that's what you went with too).
TIP: Exclude the java executable from your touch software since it already supports finger scrolling. Allows it to work a little more smoothly IMO.
Yes, Esmertec Java made all the difference. The previous JVM I was using was slow, didn't use the top and bottom of the screen since the WM6 menu bars were always on and cut and paste didn't work.
I have got a direct link shortcut set up, it launches as the default browser for email links and it no longer security prompts for net access. I'm happy.
I have tried all the alternatives (Picsel, PIEplus, Thunderhawk etc) and I have finally found the one that works for me. Anyone still using PIE should give this free browser a try (with Esmertec), it's really nice.
How can I get rid of the security warning and make Opera mini my default browser?
And how do I exclude the touch stuff?
Thanks
this thread has the instructions I used for setting default, disabling security warnings and one click launch ...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1275368&page=1&pp=15
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
I use both.. yes mini is faster, but lacks a lot of the funcionality of opera mobile.
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Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
Yeah, I agree, I used to use Opera Mini on my Hermes device and it was very quick at page rendering, zoom in/out (re-draws) etc. To be honest, it actually suited my needs in terms of functionally. I also tried Opera Mobile on the Hermes and it is just as slow as on my Diamond.
I've not tried Mini on my Diamond (I don't do much web browsing) but would like to try it out.
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
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sorry for waking up the thread; but have you tried Jblend 3.3.5 java? I think the font is OK on medium with that one.
Opera vs IE
I used Opera Mobile exclusively on my Q9H and much preferred it to IE. However, on my Diamond (US unlocked GSM) I do not like the minimal settings control options available for display. That must be an HTC overlay thing linked to the touch. I cannot get the windows in Opera to render in an easily useable format. With IE all the usual flexibility is there and I get excellent "fit to screen" displays in either landscape or portrait (thanks to Gravitator 2)... and it's not too slow.
I know I can zoom with the touch in Opera, but I am having to constantly fiddle with it to get usable displays. Am I missing something obvious? Maybe I should download a stand alone Opera Mobile and try that?
Meanwhile, I await the work on modding TF3D so I can change the link on the slider page to IE.
yea i really do agree with you, considering the power of the device there is no stable + quick way to browse the internet and it really annoys me
This is a bad comparison i know, but i've got an ipod touch and their safari browser is stable + smooth, which is how ours should be.
Its sad to say that even PIE or PIE Plus aren't even as smooth. Maybe opera will get their act together and make it quicker after all they have some nice hardware to code it around!
omarnone said:
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Are we talking about Opera 9.5 (beta): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435351&highlight=opera&page=3. It is significantly faster than the one came with the original stock.
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
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There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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Where can I get it? What is the build number?
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen. I think the real reason I stopped using it was there was some kind of text reflow issue when you zoomed it though. It has no widgets, although it installs a shortcut to the non-existent widgets, so you need to delete it.
However, I currently use NFSFan's build 15316, which I like due to its 10 tab support and speed. However, as a trade off, it suffers from the screen flipping problem if you minimize it or touch the taskbar while using it. And I definitely agree with TelloMan about the widgets, they just waste space and annoy me. Try to keep looking around XDA, especially in Development and Hacking (where I found many opera builds).
Dave
Yeah, NSFan's 15316 is the one I'm using now. The screen flipping is driving me crazy.
It's hard to believe there isn't one decent browser for Windows Mobile. Anyone know what's going on with that Firefox Mobile?
you're referring to "Minimo" by Mozilla. I haven't seen or heard much lately from them. There's some opera builds are fairly close to perfection depending on what irritates you the least amount. Too bad none of them has flash working perfectly yet. If I had to choose 2 browsers for WM, it would be netfront and opera mobile
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
Actually, I think he is referring to Fennec, not minimo. Minimo was horrible and requires very high specs, while Fennec, which is still in alpha/early beta, is very unstable yet very promising. It will be quite a while before it will be really usable. I would just stick to opera mobile for now. Skyfire works well, but isn't 100% stable. Opera mini is fast, but not full featured.
As I said, Fennec is very promising, but it is extremely unstable and VGA only for now.
Dave
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well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
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I agree about Mini i use it for pretty much everything then for sensitive info use Mobile.
"I like fast pages and come from SP stock so used to the Mini approach"
I used to get annoyed by the text flipping, but Manila2D always corrects the screen back to portrait when you hit the homescreen. I've been using that as my bandaid.
Build 15233 is yummy
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen.
<snippy snip snip>
Dave
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Like Dave was, I just got build 15233 running per the instructions at
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/tutorial-everything-you-need-know-about-flash-lite-3-and-playing-back-flash-web-videos
and it is by far the best browser experience I've had on my Tilt yet. Flash even worked on http://www.spezzo.com.
It isn't very fast, but compared to IE and the first Minimo, this actually WORKS. I can switch from mobile versions to desktop versions, zoom and scroll, and it uses my IE favorites.
AT&T Tilt
Windows Mobile 6.1 (Build 19199.dutty's)
Thanks XDA good guys!
Has the zoom bar on the right side of the screen? I had it once before, and hate the fact that I have touch the magnifying glass at the bottom in order to zoom.
Why don't you use D-PAD to zoom?
I know 9.5 b16277 does; here:
All Opera mobile 9.5 and up versions thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
HTH,
No...no it...
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Sorry, just re-read your post - my bad. I haven't seen that feature on any of the Opera builds I've used to date. The ZoomSlider configurations are kept in three places: standard_skin.zip, Opera .INI(s), registry.
In some builds, all three are required, others ... variations of the above. Guess the folks at Opera haven't made a firm commitment yet.
If you can point me to a version that has ZoomSlider on the right, I can have a look to see if it can be ported up to a newer build.
HTH,
Here is a direct link for information on Opera 9.7 mobile: http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2009/03/26/opera-mobile-9-7-beta-for-windows-mobile
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Sorry, just re-read your post - my bad. I haven't seen that feature on any of the Opera builds I've used to date. The ZoomSlider configurations are kept in three places: standard_skin.zip, Opera .INI(s), registry.
In some builds, all three are required, others ... variations of the above. Guess the folks at Opera haven't made a firm commitment yet.
If you can point me to a version that has ZoomSlider on the right, I can have a look to see if it can be ported up to a newer build.
HTH,
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Hi folks, just been reading the posts regarding opera, I seem to remember having that option on a Cooked Rom called PDACorner Ultimate. I think it was his version 2 of this Rom,but that was when I had my Kaiser (R.I.P) so I cant be sure which build it was. Im sure if you contact the chef (abusalza), he can give you more info.
Device O2Serra
Rom 1.90.206.4.WWE (Stock) (Will upload with some help!!)
Radio 1.02.25.19
Found it...it's actually build 15233.
Has the invisible zoom slider on the right, d-pad zoom disabled, and scrolling set at 2 times sensitivity...I like!!!!
Post a link to where you found it; I'll have a look at what is different to determine if a port is possible.
Cheers,
15529
I believe you want 15529. You zoom by sliding up or down on the right side of the screen. Also this one has scroll acceleration which I like. Good build. No dpad wheel zooming though. No g sensor rotation either I think. Doug
Yes, that's what I said...however, it insists on starting up automatically after a soft reset, and I found out the hard way that leaving it running in the background and then turning the phone turned off will lead to a 2% battery level first thing in the morning...
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I believe you want 15529. You zoom by sliding up or down on the right side of the screen. Also this one has scroll acceleration which I like. Good build. No dpad wheel zooming though. No g sensor rotation either I think. Doug
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Found it...it's actually build 15233.
Has the invisible zoom slider on the right, d-pad zoom disabled, and scrolling set at 2 times sensitivity...I like!!!!
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I'm working on a few other kitchen porting projects at the moment.
Would it be possible for you gents to post the exact link to the versions you are using (and that have the features you're after)?
I'll pull'em down and have a look to see if the functionality can be ported to 9.5 b16277.
Cheers,
Trying, but upload fails...will put on rapidshare later...
FYI opera mini is available in the market
Way better than the standard browser.
mssmison said:
FYI opera mini is available in the market
Way better than the standard browser.
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Yes! Way better...
The speed of opera mini is incredible but o hate the look of it
Nevermind just saw that opera mini 5 was out. Thanks!
This is just great! My favorite WM browser!
Make sure you enable "full screen" in setting to hide top and bottom bar. They take a lot of spaces. Hitting power button will make them appear.
The font looks funny because Opera mini forces 1:1 text pixelation. I prefer this to blurry text.
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Nevermind just saw that opera mini 5 was out. Thanks!
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I enjoy your enthusiasm, but would you please edit your posts instead of reposting if nobody's responded.
Its very nice and finger friendly. Its just like its windows mobile counter part. I love the homepage\bookmarks page. The only thing i dont like is, i wish the text was a little more readable without having to zoom in. But it zooms in and out fast so its no big deal.
I like to use it in mobile view rather than zooming in and out.
use large font if it's hard to read. it's pretty good.
I LOVE this browser. it is super fast and very finger friendly, much much betterthan default and dolphin browser.
I love Opera Mini. But there are a few things that I don't like.
1. When I click "first unread message", it doesn't work. Same issue with WM version.
2. I don't like the zoom out view. Any method to force zoom in mode? I was able to do so in WM version.
Love this browser. Was one of the biggest things I missed from WM.
It does start open in 240 version of Eclair...
finally they put out a native android version!
ive been missing this from WM
to be honest this alongside skyfire were applications i really miss from WM
but, 1 down 1 to go!
Skyfire get to it!!
Wow! This is fast! Much better than Opera Mobile on WinMobile!
This makes internet browsing on my phone a joy!
acegolfer said:
I love Opera Mini. But there are a few things that I don't like.
1. When I click "first unread message", it doesn't work. Same issue with WM version.
2. I don't like the zoom out view. Any method to force zoom in mode? I was able to do so in WM version.
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Put mobile view on in the settings.
PaceyWhitter said:
Put mobile view on in the settings.
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I am afraid mobile view is not zoom in mode.
acegolfer said:
I am afraid mobile view is not zoom in mode.
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Double-tap = zoom in view.
I don't think there's a way to force it to that mode all the time. Not hard to double-tap after a page loads. In fact, I like this better, because you can zoom into where you want.
speaking of cool apps from Winmo, check out Mortplayer. Very nice barebones music player, supports folder structure... fast and very nice!
jnadke said:
Double-tap = zoom in view.
I don't think there's a way to force it to that mode all the time. Not hard to double-tap after a page loads. In fact, I like this better, because you can zoom into where you want.
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I had it in always zoom in mode in WM version. But I guess they removed this feature in Android version. I'll just have to get used to it.