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Android Port to HTC Touch Pro 2

Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.

jutley said:
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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have you tried to load the HD images that are out there? WOuld be a nice start

sorry i havent we need some developers to try for us so we have a base to start from come on what a brilliant handset the htc touch pro2 is i just can't imagine the possibilities with it running android.

Ok here is the HD vershion of Android port if somone can test and report back that would be great http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux

I think if the image works, the keyboard has to work then directly aswell!

jutley said:
Hi there all i thought we could call upon all android bufins to start porting android to htc touch pro 2,Maybe we can use the blackstone vershion and build on top of that or the htc touch pro vershion.Now that the HTC magic is out with android 1.5 this helps us to get a better port working on htc devices and android on htc touch pro 2 would be out of this world so gentlemen let the games begin.
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use the hero rom

yes the hero is a android phone but we cant just flash a android rom onto the touc pro2 but i am sure a developer out there can do something about that and use the hero rom to work for tp2.

maybe the diamond 2 vershion will work atleast its a start the roms are the same on both devices http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493

http://www.androidonhtc.com/

i think porting the android hero rom would be even more badasssss
waiting so patiently for my touch pro 2

ok so all those android developes the hero rom it shall be. Its final soon as the hero is released get ready with your aprons on and get cooking make us all proud be all heros.

i hate this forum
no i dont i love it..but everytime i get a new phone i come on here to find out something else and it makes want the other new phone..i just got the Htc magic google ion..andnow you guys are talking about Hero on that Sexy touch pro2..man i do miss a keyboard..but the g1 was too ugly..oh well :/ i hope the touch pro2 isnt that expensive

HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.

vasra said:
HTC Hero with the same RAM/ROM/CPU as TP2 just got announced today as an Android phone with HTC's own touch UI additions.
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/2...ra-teflon-coating-coming-out-late-summer.html
Once this hits the wild and ROM hackers get on it, I think there might be further advances on Android on TP2.
BTW, check out the video. Full featured Android is not (yet), but it does look cool.
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The hero doesn't have the same screen, and that is (it think) a major problem.

think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices

lhwparis said:
think the screen is not the problem. android is concepted to work withe different screen sices
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I've seend video's of the touch HD on youtube where it appears that the menu had problems displaying contents while opening. (in opened and closed states it looked normal) Also third party apps will mostly be designed for standard screen size I guess even though Android itself might be capable.

Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.

vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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They'd better release an Android driven Touch Pro2!

vasra said:
Not completely related, but HTC has apparently announced that the HTC Sense UI on their Hero Android phone will be coming to future HTC WM mobiles:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5239
A nice alternative to Touch Flo 3D perhaps.
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Manila 3..

Geniuses, pls port the Hero's Androids for our Rhodium. Dualboot is awesome. But I can see Hero hv multi-touch support. not a big deal, either it can boot with Rhodium or I have to fasting for another few months (to save money actually )to get this green robot driven gagdet.

HTC Sense interface possibly for Blackstone

I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated that
Sense is niet voorbehouden aan Android, zei marketingtopman Michael Wang in een vraaggesprek met Tweakers.net. "Sense is geen Android-versie van TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is alleen een interface, Sense is de paraplu die daar boven hangt."
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or in English:
Sense is not reserved for Android, said marketing chief executive Michael Wang in an interview with Tweakers.net. "Sense is no Android version of TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is only an interface, Sense is the umbrella that is hovering over it."
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In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?

bouvrie said:
I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated thator in English:
In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?
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thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it

Lazy79 said:
thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it
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There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.

sawer82 said:
There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.

sawer82 said:
There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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thats the 2nd time in two threads you've stated that. Where are you getting this information from???

bouvrie said:
Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.
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It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.

I ordered the tp2 and are a owner of the blackstone to, and after i saw the interface and what android is capable of, i decided to write a mail to htc, and i got a reply that the new interface will not come to tp2. But there will be a wm 6.5 update with tf3d for the tp2. and its very unlikley it will come to the blackstone i think, if it comes it will be unofficially. myself has canceled my tp2 and will wait some more and see what will come out hero will come in two flavors, one with qwerty and one without (hero). And maybe later some more phones, What i am wondering is would it be easier to run winmo 6.1 on an android phone or is it just as hard to get it as it is to get android on the windows phone?

sawer82 said:
It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.
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I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.

DRTigerlilly said:
I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.
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Sorry for taking so long to respond, i had to go throught my browsing history.
Here is where i read it: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/24/htc-sense-ui-taking-android-to-the-next-level.html
But to tell the truth, i also searched Mobile Burn and didn't find any statement.

There are screenshots of sense on windows mobile. Its not the same as the android version but rather an update of the rhodium tf3d
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529650&highlight=sense
here, first pic.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0

@ask768 yeah not interested in tf3d v2.5...Sense looks way better.

reading the actual HTC press release, found this
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance peoples lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected
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So i think it is safe to say Sense UI should be coming to Windows Mobile.

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Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0
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sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong

lool you're right, i want the hero rom on my rhodiuuuuuuuuum :'(

crashDebug said:
sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong
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actually it IS a HD in a clear crystal case its running on but its NOTSense its Manilla (TF3D) version 2.5
and there are already ROMs on the forum trialling it...but its still rather buggy..i tried Miri's ROM

Manila 2.5 IS Sense!
“HTC never indicated that the new UI would be available on WinMo – it won’t be, in fact. The confusion comes from some sites not getting their facts straight. HTC said that TouchFLO 3D was part of Sense. Sense is *already* on WinMo.
The fact that HTC has not given the new UI on the Hero a proper name has led people to assuming that Sense refers only to the UI on the Hero, which is not the case. In any case, HTC caused the confusion by not giving the new UI a real name it could refer to. Sense is merely a philosophy, not an actual user interface.
Make no mistake, TouchFLO 3D is staying on WinMo devices, and the new, unnamed UI is what HTC will be using for Android devices that lack the "with Google" branding.
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5310

Sense = Android
Manila = Windows Mobile
Manila 2.5 != Sense
(Sense = Cool)

Wrong.
Sense = the name for the concept/philosophy behind all HTC interfaces
unnamed = HTC's Android interface
Manila = HTC's WM interface
==> Both Manila and HTC's Android interface are Sense.

2late, everybody is refering to sense when they talk about the new android ui.
all the rest is manila.

That's wrong nevertheless, and it's causing confusion.
Manila 2.5 is part of Sense and Manila will stay on Windows Mobile. The interface that HTC has programmed for Android won't come to Windows Mobile but Manila will evolve and eventually become more like that Android interface in the future.

WinMo 6.5

So, now 6.5 is officially released, when are we going to get a proper base 6.5 ROM for our Jades? Come on, there's got to be a genius out there.

I guess all the chefs are waiting for an official HTC 6.5 final ROM dump. I mean that's what i would do, if i were a chef.

Really excited about it.Hope something will come up soon.

When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?

hi
to my knowledge not now we need to wait for one of ur cooks to use one of the released Roms and cook a good bug free one for us
orange3g said:
When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?
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I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.

olly2009 said:
I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.
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Apparently, the Touch 2 will be quite cheap in SEAsia, somewhere between the Opal and Jade. This with increased memory but same processor and same camera as Jade.

yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh

Asked in HTC
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.

forall.sri said:
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.
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Means that WinMo 6.5 will be officialy released for our Jade !?
OMG, can't believe it !

I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.

hi
u nailed it buddy im 100% with u but then we have great cooks so im sure well get a good clean bug free ROM soon
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I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.
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xtremez said:
yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh
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It's hard to figure out HTC's marketing strategy. They introduce a newer version of a product with the same or sometimes inferior features. Take the Touch cruise 2, for instance. The older one had a better camera. The screen of the Opal is lowered and that makes it hard to reach the close button. As for the official upgrade, the word out is it will only be for the diamond 2 and touch pro 2. But when it comes to hotfixes, jade comes in first with practically none= no major issues to fix.

I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.

digsf said:
I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.
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I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)

If u look at the specs of the Touch2, it's very clear it's just an upgrade on Jade. Apart from the improbable stuff like RAM and ROM. the rest are nearly a match. some of the features that jade lacks, just a couple of registry tweaks and shortcut assigned keys..and you're on the GO! Save $$$...and a prettier phone. LOL

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I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)
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Looking forward to it, Tommy!

Has anyone got hold old a full release WinMo6.5 and started cooking for the jade yet?????

From HTC Europe support:
Dear valued HTC customer,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your Device
6.5 is available on our website for the Touch Pro 2 and the SNAP.
HTC touch diamond 2 will be uploaded shortly
this will be a free download as far as we know.
We have no information of any other devices that will be updated, but when we hear anything it will be uploaded on the website.
if the device is branded please contact the network for further updates.
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So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.

digsf said:
From HTC Europe support:
So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.
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More than a long shot I would say, since allowing Jade owners to update 6.5 would mean they would not have an incentive to upgrade to Touch 2. Phones like ours requires a lot of thought at the beginning and more user friendly phones like Nokia are hard to beat. Believe me, I've tried to convert quite a few people!

WM 6.5 on HTC.com

http://www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx
So some news, and no for HTC Touch HD

xaoc747 said:
http://www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx
So some news, and no for HTC Touch HD
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So in future i never buy a HTC device anymore. Their support is very bad.

xaoc747 said:
http://www.htc.com/uk/support.aspx
So some news, and no for HTC Touch HD
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This was already expected that the HD wouldn't be getting a free update to wm6.5. To be honest I'm not too bothered as most chef's already have fairly smooth wm6.5 roms anyhow

alper1 said:
So in future i never buy a HTC device anymore. Their support is very bad.
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I wouldn't let this put you off buying another HTC device, my next device will still almost definately be a HTC one.

For me next will be TOUCH HD 2 a'ka Leo!!! For Roms - very good last form Hellonasty and Miri, wait from PhamQuang and another chefs.

It's not coming
i thought it has been confirmed that Windows Mobile 6.5 is not coming to Touch HD...
Read this.

yep, it has always been said that touch hd would not receive wm 6.5 official rom.
anyway, chefs provide better roms than the official ones, so for me there's no difference if htc provides official rom or not.

I AGREE when i buy my HTC with stock Wm 6.1 Was very Buggy and Slow untill i start to flashing with coocked ROM`s so its not a problem for me do we have Official ROM or not always we will be UPDATET because we have good comunity here no matter from the HTC support when WM 7 Release Again here we will have some Amazing Cocked ROM so sometimes i think that some of the Coocked ROM`s are better than the STOCK one.

Personally I feel this has been discussed enough beforehand and on this thread. For these reasons I am closing this thread. Any objections, please PM me with your reasons

T-Mobile USA WM 6.5 Upgrade coming on Jan 6, 2010

Hey TP2 USA T-Mo useser... I just saw that our carrier is giving us an WM 6.5 upgrade on Jan 6th 2010.
Source: http://pocketnow.com/rumor/t-mobile-windows-mobile-65-upgrade-coming-january-6-2010
I am already running WM 6.5 on my device as soon as the HSPL was out for our device... but its nice to see our carrier is giving us an official one too..
Just thought I would share this here.
If this was already posted and a duplicate post, please feel free to colse this thread.

Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2

That's Great! Thanks for the info.

bout time

Actually the source that revealed this was david over at tmonews.com, and even he said that this isn't completely concrete. So dont go crazy just yet.

Awesome, Cant wait

Tmonews
Tmonews broke the story first.
Any rate. Nice to have a official backup for warranty purposes.
January 6th 2010. Still in the rumor mill. When the source is tmonews.
People tend to trust it.

I'm going to stick with my super fast build of 6.5.3 that our wonderful cooks have provided. In my experience with past phones with T-Mobile and software updates then this new 6.5 from TMO will be very slow.... like a snail. I think the cooks here put together a much faster, more practical ROM. I agree that the news is terriffic for everyone not able to flash to a new ROM but I am excited to see what our cooks come up with next!

Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?

Toad said:
Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
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There is a program called team viewer.
Contact me and I can hardSPL your TP...

awesome! can wait to start cooking based on this new release

Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.

please contact me....i'd like to get my TP2 hardSPL'ed.

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Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?
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Never. >_>

Showtime7 said:
Never. >_>
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Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.

Rim1Flex said:
Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.
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and when it's out, porting it to hardware built for WiMo6.x is going to be much harder because WiMo7 is being developed with different hardware in mind, apparently WiMo7 phones will have more hardware in common with a zune then with a WiMo6.x phone

Jan 6
Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.

cdguider said:
Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.
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Following your steps brutha lol

well, I guess it wasn't for real. there is nothing in the tmobile site yet

TEE82 said:
Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.
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If you have HardSPL already, then you'll be able to flash whatever ROM you like, so yes, you'll be able to use T-Mobile's officials ROMs.