How many Flashes till the BlackStone ROM dies out...
I mean, there has to be a limit to the number of
flashes we can perform till the memory dies...
yes there is but...
Believe me, you will trash you device earlier then the amount of re-flashing has attempt...
the amount is really a lot... even if you flash it 10times a day... you will die earlier... so no worries about.... you will never see this!
Good luck with re-flashing your device...
Roman
aaryaputra said:
How many Flashes till the BlackStone ROM dies out...
I mean, there has to be a limit to the number of
flashes we can perform till the memory dies...
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banzro said:
Believe me, you will trash you device earlier then the amount of re-flashing has attempt...
the amount is really a lot... even if you flash it 10times a day... you will die earlier... so no worries about.... you will never see this!
Good luck with re-flashing your device...
Roman
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Aha... An [almost] Immortal ROM...
Well, at least my BlackStone will live to see the Touch HD1001
aaryaputra said:
Well, at least my BlackStone will live to see the Touch HD1001
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only 999 HD versions to go!!
it depends on the chip, but it can resist from 10,000 to 1,000,000 erase cycles.
let's suppose 10,000 times. if you flash it 10 times a day EVERYDAY, which is mostly unlikely, it would take 1,000 days, or approx. 3 years, for you to kill your touch HD.
so from this point of view you can flash it at your own will, you will surely dispose of it before it dies...
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I have been messing around with GPS for the last 3weeks...got some problem at 1st but i think the problem is solved with htc GPS tools.im currently using .08 as i heard some good things about it.but then again some ppl have been advising me to use .05 and .07.im quite confused now.i try the 2 radio before but it was during the time im having issues with getting a fix,now im tempted to flash back to .05 or .07...any suggestion guys?
hi anyone???
Please refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
Skele said:
Please refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
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yup i know there is a thread on radio but mine will focus on GPS performance bro
IMO 08 is the best for GPS.
I do agree : 1.25.00.08 for me too
.08 is certainly the fastest cold start. but i dont know if that makes it the best. i do use it tho.
Howell said:
I do agree : 1.25.00.08 for me too
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+1
seems most accurate too (South UK)
how about anyone from asia?or even singapore?
i'm on 07 and i get a fix wthin 5-7 seconds with gpscycle 2
although at times gpscycle fails to get a fix, but that can be dealt with by soft resetting the fone....i think its some s/w problem....seems like the s/w cant get to open the com port
so far i have test .05,.07 and.08....05 seems the most accurate but fixing takes up to 1min sometime longer...
Radio v1.00.25.BS14 is supposed to be the best atm, reports of instant fixing, and spot on accuracy!
mugglesquop said:
Radio v1.00.25.BS14 is supposed to be the best atm, reports of instant fixing, and spot on accuracy!
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Yes please - where from? mine has 1.00.25.05, wouldn't mind trying some different ones.
EDIT: Sorry, found it, search *is* my friend
I confirm... I come from 2 whole months of 07 + 08, now I'm testing bs14 version from some days and it seems very impressive. Just some doubts about battery draining... let's see next days
bye,
davide
to be honest, if you use your phone more than a couple of times a day (like most people), then the battery is ****e no matter which radio! oooo and extra 10 mins!
i'm getting the 3000 mAh battery when its out at the end of the month...
over 3x the capacity
mugglesquop said:
to be honest, if you use your phone more than a couple of times a day (like most people), then the battery is ****e no matter which radio! oooo and extra 10 mins!
i'm getting the 3000 mAh battery when its out at the end of the month...
over 3x the capacity
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I have the 85,000 mAh battery, over 85* the capacity Okay well really I have it plugged into my cigar lighter
On a serious note tho', You say your GPS is no problem and the battery life is ****e, mine has reasonable battery life (although if I'm using GPS it's either plugged into the car or I'm using GPS Cycle Computer which turns off the backlight) and GPS isn't anything like as good as the Artemis?
This device seems much more variable in quality than my previous O2/HTC ones, even the camera quality varies - weeiiirrdd
Kim
yeh, it depends on if you have a original HTC, a T-Mobile... etc etc...
i think a lot depends on ROMs/Radios as well.
Different radios work better/worse for differing regions and providors.....I am using 25.07 (and have tried a few!) as its best for Scotland.....would suggest that you follow what your regional collegues are using as a starting point, and then flash and change (very easy!!) for comparison
Of course then post back to share your results
the latest radio b14 from dutty is amazing!!!i get a fix from cold start in less than 15sec!!!Anyone else have good things to say about tis radio??
My out-of-the-box radio version is 1.02.25.19.
Is this any good? I'm getting fast fixes but lag after 5mins of use (feels like a memory problem with TT7 version 7.450 b9030). Igo8 is just always off by 20M (version 5400).
Since battery life has been a long term issue for most people with the Diamond, I found this:
It seems that one of the major issues is that the battery amount is polled so often that it actually drains the battery a LOT.
There is a registry edit you can perform that is confirmed working on CDMA(being tested on GSM) phones, and battery life is really great now!
What you have to do:
Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery in a Registry Editor.
Change the value of the "PollInterval" to HEX 4E20(or use decimal 20000)
Soft reset your device
Juicy said:
Dear Chefs/Users,
I wanted to share with you, what I believe to be the source to the better battery life on my 2.4.X Roms.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery]
"PollInterval"=dword:4E20
I've shared the fix with Ghetto, and he has confirmed, and will likely incorporate the reg into future iterations of the kitchen.
Original credit goes to DCD (XDA) as I noticed this was a registry from his old Titan Kitchen.
-Juicy
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Original thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=39966
I don't even have PollInterval. Added it and rebooting the device now. It's worth a try at least
Didn't have it either. I added it as a new DWORD, hope is right. I will post any difference. Thanks.
Would this help the battery life on the Titan too?
dwizzy130
dwizzy130 said:
Would this help the battery life on the Titan too?
dwizzy130
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Not exactly sure, this is my first HTC device. However, I'm 90 percent sure(read thru the original thread) that this was first found on the Titan, so it should work.
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To those who didn't have PollInterval, Juicy has had it in his rom, and so have a few others. I have a Sprint CDMA original rom, and it was in my registry.
However, the general consensus is that it's working great
I think this might only be for CDMA phones. I think I have seen this hint before in another forum and it was only for CDMA phones. I did apply it and it did no harm although I am not sure that it made any difference.
I think I will be addng it to my newly flashed ROM again.
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I think this might only be for CDMA phones. I think I have seen this hint before in another forum and it was only for CDMA phones. I did apply it and it did no harm although I am not sure that it made any difference.
I think I will be addng it to my newly flashed ROM again.
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I might have been incorrect when I said it works for GSM, it may not.
However, it is worth a try!
i don't believe the diamond has any battery life issues. it just has a small battery.
Blazeitup123 said:
i don't believe the diamond has any battery life issues. it just has a small battery.
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You said it maaan. Agreed.
The Jones said:
I think this might only be for CDMA phones. I think I have seen this hint before in another forum and it was only for CDMA phones. I did apply it and it did no harm although I am not sure that it made any difference.
I think I will be addng it to my newly flashed ROM again.
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I have been using this tweak for a while and havent really noticed any big diff. Maybe 5min more of batt? if so. But every little bit helps
Greets to all.
I have the Key, but when I try to edit it (hex or decimal) I get.
"Write Error: Access Denied"
"Cannot Write Value Data. Try Again"
Anyone run into this issue before?
I am on a Stock ROM editing with CERegistyEditor.
well it doesnt seem to work for me this.
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 900 mAh
Stand-by Up to 285 h
Talk time Up to 5 h 30 min
What i want to know is how HTC managed to get this type of life out of the diamond.
Small battery...
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i don't believe the diamond has any battery life issues. it just has a small battery.
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Finally, someone with a brain in their head! I've been saying this for the last six months... everytime someone winges about the 'battery life' issue! Why do you think the device is so small and sexy? You can have your precious Diamond last for a week on one charge if you'd prefer it to look like a brick (or even worse... that Steve Jobs phone!!)
Well this has been confirmed to be CDMA only =/.
But however running grooveROM I can get an insane amount of stuff done:
tons of data
tons of music, videos
etc.
and have plenty of life
Regedit
I know how to edit the registry on XP.. where do I start on WM 6.1? Thank you...
Lifelift
Lifelift said:
I know how to edit the registry on XP.. where do I start on WM 6.1? Thank you...
Lifelift
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Look around for PHM Regedit in which you install to the phone itself, or download CeRegEditor, which installs on your pc and accesses your phone's registry via USB.
The battery is fine. Mine will easily go for 2 days (unplugged at 8am on day 1 and charged at 10pm on day 2) with moderate use.
This includes:
+3hrs TOTAL talk time
send & receive about 30 texts
5-10min TOTAL on EDGE/wifi
If I didn't mention other things, then I didn't use them.
Well mine lasts only till evening with only usage of talkin on the phone few sms's here and there and maybe a few mins at the most on wifi and tht's it!!!! the only way i feel u can really save on the battery is to manually dim ur screen way down and when it is night time reduce it compelety then I manage to make the phone last till the nite where I can recharge it .....
But all in all I agree the battery is jus too small fer the Diamond and I don't think a registry edit will make any major difference....
Admittedly I don't make many calls, but I get at least a couple hours of talk time or about 4 days without charging.
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no wifi, 1 or 2 messages a day, much of the day with no or little signal
intx said:
Since battery life has been a long term issue for most people with the Diamond, I found this:
It seems that one of the major issues is that the battery amount is polled so often that it actually drains the battery a LOT.
There is a registry edit you can perform that is confirmed working on CDMA(being tested on GSM) phones, and battery life is really great now!
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Thank you!
I've just added the key in my Diamond GSM.
I hope it works...
Lifelift said:
I know how to edit the registry on XP.. where do I start on WM 6.1? Thank you...
Lifelift
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Here u go.......
Yes, I agree with the battery being underpowered. A second battery is almost an absolute must for heavier users. It's difficult to not be a heavy user on this Powerful phone.
This post marks my "Senior Member" status....(100 post) I would like to take the time to say I'm proud to be part of this special community of professions sharing a common interest. I would like to give a special thanks to all the hard working chefs and developers out there. ...........I know, I feel like at the the Oscars. But seriously, everyone coming from different countries all around the world and uniting to share the knowledge is awesone. Cudos x100 to the xda forum.
Normally I would fully charge the phone before flashing anything, but since Cyanogen just released his new 4.1.6, I wanna flash it right away ! My battery has 67% left. Can I plug the phone into the charger and flash it ?
Thanks in advance
Yes, you can charge your phone and flash at the same time. I always do.
I can't tell you from a tech perspective if it's okay but I can speak from personal experience that it doesn't do any bad. I do it all the time
the only reason they say to have a fully charged battery is so that during the flashing process your phone will not die and possibly leave you with a brick but as yellow (ffff00) said you can flash with your phone charging. i always do too.
Lol, yes you can . Have fun with new version.
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the only reason they say to have a fully charged battery is so that during the flashing process your phone will not die and possibly leave you with a brick but as yellow (ffff00) said you can flash with your phone charging. i always do too.
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compliments on your hexidecimal knowledge
ffff00 said:
compliments on your hexidecimal knowledge
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how else am i going to do edit .xml's for color lol
Your phone must be over 30% when flashing a rom
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Your phone must be over 30% when flashing a rom
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oooooh you say it so sternly. how do you know have you tried flashing a rom when you have 31% and it went fine, but when you did it at 30% it died lol. actually i have read this as well.
I never flash while charging. I'm too paranoid of power surges causing a flash to go ugly. And I've had equipment on good quality surge supressors die from power surges before so I don't trust those either.
Therefore, battery power flashes only for me
Flashing with the cable is always the best way to go.. If something goes wrong you are going to have to plug it in anyway
But i have not had any problems thus far.
I see most of the Rom now request the you should have atleast 50% battery life left
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Flashing with the cable is always the best way to go.. If something goes wrong you are going to have to plug it in anyway
But i have not had any problems thus far.
I see most of the Rom now request the you should have atleast 50% battery life left
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Psssshhhhhht
get your RUU and WM butt outta here, this is Android, a system that doesn't treat it's users like idiots...... hehe sorry, I do NOT miss using RUU on my HTC Kaiser. I hated the fact that it absolutely would NOT flash your phone unless you had at least 50% batt.
Seems you got your answer so I'd like to point out, am I the only one that does things first then asks questions later?? Lol
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Seems you got your answer so I'd like to point out, am I the only one that does things first then asks questions later?? Lol
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No you're not alone. I do stuff, then don't ask questions later or i shoot first and ask later
why bother asking, just turn and walk away like nothing happened (don't forget to whistle, nobody ever looks suspicous when they whistle) nope wasn't me
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why bother asking, just turn and walk away like nothing happened (don't forget to whistle, nobody ever looks suspicous when they whistle) nope wasn't me
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Lmao also when someone asks if it was you, curse them out and be like "WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BLAME ME?!". They'll feel stupid for themselves and better yet you'll feel stupid for them because they actually believed you. HEHE
nope deny deny deny, caught on camera, wasn't me, just act like you have no clue what they are talking about or my personal fav just ignore them and start talking to yourself about something that makes no sense at all.
what do you mean, penut butter is a good shampoo cottage cheese is a great shop, stop looking at me funny, little cricket, i will tickle you till you poop boulders
So just because the LED doesn't come on to show the phone is charging in recovery, it is actually charging? I always flash when my battery is about 20% so I really hope it is charging
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So just because the LED doesn't come on to show the phone is charging in recovery, it is actually charging? I always flash when my battery is about 20% so I really hope it is charging
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Yeah it's charging
Hi All
Can anybody tell me or have encounter such an issue where no more ROM flashing is possible if yes then after how Manny flashings.
Thanks
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i flashed different croms,kernel around 40 times i think, still my sgs running buttery smooth and fast.
as long as your sgs is running,you can flash over and over again.
cheers
As often as you want. There are no limits for flash ROM. I have flashed my sgs maybe 150 times ...
To ask ... how often you can install linux on your PC?
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As often as you want. There are no limits for flash ROM. I have flashed my sgs maybe 150 times ...
To ask ... how often you can install linux on your PC?
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As far as i know, there is a symbolic limit to flash a device wich is not comparable to install a OS in a PC. That's because if you install linux/windows/whatever youre doing it on a hard drive, while when you flash a rom to a phone you do it over a EPROM memory. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Yeah great guys..!!
Thanks a ton to build confidence in me --- so i can flash atlest 150 times as daggi78 has mentioned in his post.
Thanks
dk147in said:
Yeah great guys..!!
Thanks a ton to build confidence in me --- so i can flash atlest 150 times as daggi78 has mentioned in his post.
Thanks
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I must correct me.
fps249 is right. EPROMs can be rewritten up to 200 times, then they are consumed.
So i have to pull the break otherwise my phone is dead in a few weeks.
fps249 is right. EPROMs can be rewritten up to 200 times, then they are consumed.
So i have to pull the break otherwise my phone is dead in a few weeks.
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fps249 is wrong!! then it was a damaged ROM from beginning
"the maximum number of rewrites are 1 million or more"
Source: Wikipedia @ EEPROM
Look at "Failure modes"
Ehomer said:
fps249 is wrong!! then it was a damaged ROM from beginning
"the maximum number of rewrites are 1 million or more"
Source: Wikipedia @ EEPROM
Look at "Failure modes"
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Have you read what I wrote? I specifically said that there is a SYMBOLIC limit. By that, I mean that it's almost imposible for a person to reach that limit, but it doesn't mean it's not there. And i said that it's not the same flashing over an EPROM than installing an OS over a hard drive, wich is right.
Guys pleas don't get me confused, atleast 100 time i can flash my phone....sure...
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Guys pleas don't get me confused, atleast 100 time i can flash my phone....sure...
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You're right, sorry. Yes, you can flash at least 100 times.
Even 150 times!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
It depends on the memory chip used, for example, a typical nand flash chip will have a data retention of 10 years and a 100 000 program/erase cycles.
Flashing is just one aspect of program/erase cycles you also have to take into account downloading and installing apps as this also counts toward the total. I'm not upto speed on the android file system but there are also what they call leveling algorithms that try and make sure that all memory cells within the flash are used evenly. If, for example, you read/write the same addresses over and over again they will wear out quicker than the rest leading to bad blocks.
Having said that, its more likely that your phone will die from other causes before it becomes a problem
No Limits
There is no limit as such...till your hardware is fine, you can continue flashing. I don't even remember the number of times i have flashed my device. Don;t worry on this one and have fun
5 lac times i think !
150 times?! it means you flash every 2 day durring a year... c'mon aren't phones meant to be used to call and message rather than flashing daily? what is the point of such practise?
ThanXXXXXXXXXXXX
thanks guyz for the gr88888 info.
"Thanks" button is your friend.
for example today I flashed(with full wipe every time) about 7-8 times....for finding a way to fix gps-network drop fix
normally... I flash about 5-6 times a week... :/
so this came to my mind.... how bad it is to flash too much??
@sandeep.sethi bro....what about you? developers+beta testers are crack flasher....by what extent??
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@sandeep.sethi bro....what about you? developers+beta testers are crack flasher....by what extent??
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i dont use my phone much
i flash rom maybe once in 3-5 days
Cpt.mactavish said:
for example today I flashed(with full wipe every time) about 7-8 times....for finding a way to fix gps-network drop fix
normally... I flash about 5-6 times a week... :/
so this came to my mind.... how bad it is to flash too much??
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I don't find any harm in that, during my peak time with my phone, I flashed like 8-10 ROMs in a day. My phone is still working fine, but I recommend you to limit your time checking out ROMs, you might end up risking your internal storage.
there is an article on wikipedia I believe that says how many times a nand or nor memory can be written safe