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HELP!! PHONE WON'T TURN ON

So I upgraded to the latest mr clean rom and did some tweaks with the registry Wizard. I was playing around with it for a while and turned it off to charge overnight. I wake up and try and turn it on and nothing. I've tried soft reset, and hard reset and it doesn't turn on or do anything. When I plug in my charger the light on my phone doesn't even come on. PLEASE HELP. WHAT CAN I DO!!!.

dew1989 said:
So I upgraded to the latest mr clean rom and did some tweaks with the registry Wizard. I was playing around with it for a while and turned it off to charge overnight. I wake up and try and turn it on and nothing. I've tried soft reset, and hard reset and it doesn't turn on or do anything. When I plug in my charger the light on my phone doesn't even come on. PLEASE HELP. WHAT CAN I DO!!!.
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It seems that you bricked you phone mate. I think that you installed MrClean rom in a G4 phone so you irrimediably f*cked up the bootloader (IPL and SPL). Many users have reported that their phones were able to boot (and behaved normally) immediatly after the flashing but were dead after they turned them off for the first time, this is what happened to you.
Only thing you can try is going to bootloader mode (but i think it won't work since you messed the bootloader) and then flash a new rom. To do this, press and keep pressed both the keys on the right side and then insert a pin in the reset hole briefly. If the phone goes to the tri-colors screen then you're safe, if not continue reading.
If your warranty perior is not yet over then you can have a new phone for free (DON'T tell them that you flashed an experimental rom!!! Tell only that it went off suddenly or that you were installing an official rom!).
Service centre can repair your device (i suppose they've some method to reflash the bootloader) but i don't know how much they'll ask you.
Try asking other users on this forum. Sorry!
bye

...did you ry to recharge it with the ----ORIGINAL 1A CHARGER----? looks stupid, but i resuscitated mine just before throwing it in the bin. if it works, i will explain you the rest....

yup, I tried charging it with the home charger and still nothing. My battery reads at 3v and it's supposed to be 3.8 so it's not out of juice, but maybe it's just dead?

...you can try with just a normal 9 VDC battery, in order to boost up the voltage, to connect it for a few seconds to the ppc battery till you reach the 3.8 VDC and see if it's working...

Ok, i did that...and amazingly it turned on so I pluged it into the charger right away. Windows booted and about 20sec later the device turned off and won't charge again. So i tried again and the same thing happened. Do I need a new battery? TIA

dew1989 said:
Ok, i did that...and amazingly it turned on so I pluged it into the charger right away. Windows booted and about 20sec later the device turned off and won't charge again. So i tried again and the same thing happened. Do I need a new battery? TIA
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This is waht you need:
http://www.thetravelinsider.info/phones/cellphonerecharger.htm
This charger is somehow wired weird... it charges the battery AND feeds juice to the phone at the same time (believe it or not, regular chargers and USB cables do not engage until the OS is loaded), allowing you to turn the phone on and in a few minutes plug it into the regular charger to continue charging. Just make sure you get the RAZR tip.
It has saved my ass more than once.

I fixed it , What I did was zap the battery with a 9v battery in 3 sec intervals, I did this about 5 times, then I pluged my phone into the charger and turned it on, the 9v gave it enough juice to boot up and the usb took over from there. So to everyone out there who is having this same problem, try this but don't over zap, check your battery with a multimeter.

im having the same problem----my MDA went dead last night because i forgot to charge the battery and then i went to plug it in the charger but the phone doesnt turn on no more...the light doesnt turn on like if it would be charging and i left it overnight and it still doesnt work..... do yall think that its the battery or is the phone just messed up and cant use it nomore????

Last time I had my battery completely drained, it wouldn't charge from laptop via USB. I read something about how the device's "smart-charging" function itself needs a bit of power to start-up...
but anyways, I couldn't charge the battery through the phone (software charging) - what I had to do was to take a USB cable, cut out one end, identify the +/- (red/black) wires, and charge them directly to the battery's two poles (metal plates). It took about 10-20 seconds of charging until I had enough power in the battery to place it back in the phone, start WM5 and charge it thru the phone.
It would have been much easier if you have a battery charger.

I had my phone connected to the computer through the usb cable, and I just left it connected for a week and it was completely dead and could not be turned on. I don't know how it drained the battery (probally by leaving the wifi on, but the computer was in use all the time). Anyway, thanks to this thread, I used the ac charger and it turned on.
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thanks for infos

I'm going to give this a go; a Crossbow ROM flash went horribly wrong last night and in my attempts to repair it (I also must have flashed at least 9 times) the phone went dead. It won't charge either, but battery voltage is 3.7 volts, and I'm sat here wishing it was 3
Will get back to you all!

To update: no... it didn't work! I hooked the battery up to a computer power supply (nearest thing to hand) on 5v and 12v and the voltage increased to about 3.81V... I guess the battery is not the problem with my phone, though the symptoms were the same :-(
Any buttons I can press (i.e. like the voice command button for bootloader) to wake the damned thing up? It's probably fried.

Suggestion
CrArc said:
To update: no... it didn't work! I hooked the battery up to a computer power supply (nearest thing to hand) on 5v and 12v and the voltage increased to about 3.81V... I guess the battery is not the problem with my phone, though the symptoms were the same :-(
Any buttons I can press (i.e. like the voice command button for bootloader) to wake the damned thing up? It's probably fried.
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My phone has a hardware problem with the on / off button (doesn´t work at all), at the beggining I thought it was a software problem and I tried all sort of tricks, then I gave up and recognized that was a hardware issue and I found 2 ways to turn the phone on 1) When is totally off (This happens when I have to remove the battery to change SIM card) I connect to the USB cable to my PC or to the car or wall charger and I make a soft reset. 2) When I see the phone signal led blinking I remove the memory card and wakes the phone up (not a good idea since I know that the card is going to get damaged sooner or later).

I just got a G3 wizard from a friend a couple days ago. On Thursday I upgraded it to XDA Mobile 6 and left it on the 2.25.11 (I think) T-Mobile Radio that the T-Mobile 2.26 firmware flash put on it. I used it all day on Friday and then I held the power button and shut the phone completely off for 25 hours, but left it plugged in to a usb to 110V AC adapter that came with my Dell Axim X50V. On Saturday night I went to turn it on and it would not come on no matter what I tried. I found this thread and checked the voltage on the battery directly with a multimeter, 3.13V. I cut the head off a usb cable and then held the black and red wires to the positive and negative terminals on the battery for 2 minutes with the head plugged into a front USB port on my PC. The multimeter then read 3.7V. I put it back into the MDA and it turned on, booted and informed me that the battery was completely drained. I plugged it into the USB to AC charger and it read 10% battery on BatteryStatus. I have left it to charge and it is currently at 60%.
I guess the lesson here is to not totally shut the phone off and let it sit, or the battery won't charge, even plugged into my charger. I guess the OS needs to be running in suspend mode for the charging circuit to run. I know I won't turn it all the way off ever again unless I have my little plug thing and my laptop with me.

(old) Nokia phones have a state called "Acting dead" (from service manuals) which takes place when phone is turned off and battery inserted. It means that the energy is flowing around the board so that the responsible hardware keeps waiting for a 'HIGH' signal ordering to turn ON the phone.
When batteries go bellow the 2.x volts they stop being charged by the phones. This is why i protect the battery terminals with tape when the phone is stored for some time and the reason why a lot of people thinks the phones are broken when not used for months. I usually use the 'freezer trick' where i leave the batteries inside the freezer all night and charge them next day.
just 2 cents...

My Wizard XDA got discharged over the weekend and wouldn't start up - after 12 hours on USB it still wouldn't start.
The charge tips saved my bacon - I modified a USB cable as per the instructions above, and used it to charge up the XDA battery - it only needed five seconds and the phone now boots!
Thanks All, great information!
My 2 cents...
If you're going to try the same, connect red usb to the +ve terminal of your battery and black USB to the -ve terminal of the battery. I'd suggest having a voltmeter to hand to check battery and supply voltage.
Disclaimer - the ablve worked for me, but I'm not responsible for anyone damaging themselves, their PC,their phone or anything else by using the above info!

BUMP! thought my phone was dead, hacked a USB cable and i'm back in business!!!!

TYTN II won't turn on
i left it plugged in all day and when i tried to turn it on it didn't respond. i have a second battery that was fully charged and that didn't work either. i tried a hard reset with it unplugged and with it plugged into the charger. nothing works. i'm on the standard at&t rom with lots of programs. i got it unlocked so i can't go to at&t.

Car Kit will Not Charge my Kaiser - Help Please

Just bought an Brodit Active Kaiser holder (part 968752 - link here) and it will not charge my Vario III. This is annoying because I had assumed my Hermes charger did not do the job because it do not output sufficient power (seen plenty of posts on this).
Just like my last Hermes charger this quality Brodit charger starts off OK (amber charge light and on-screen indication of charge arrow) - but after about a minute it fails. The amber charge light goes out, the on-screen battery charge indicator stays on and the battery starts to run down - fast if GPS in use!
This is regardless of the amperageactuallly drawn (I've tried everything off and even soft-reseting the device). All is fine when charged on the mains charger and also when charged on the pure USB connection to the PC.
This must be either a fault with the brand new charger or an issue with the ROM. I am assuming it could be either so will dual-post here and in Dutty's ROM area too. Any help would be appreciated - could it be a registry problem? If so then how does the device know its on a car charger .
Frustrated Kaiser User...

If the battery can be charged normally by the OEM USB cable connected to a PC, obviously the Brodit charger is defective. Stop trying with it or something worst could appen to your Kaiser.

svcglobal said:
If the battery can be charged normally by the OEM USB cable connected to a PC, obviously the Brodit charged is defective. Stop trying with it or something worst could appen to your Kaiser.
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Thanks and I know that your suggestion is logical, but there are similar reports to mine within the XDA forum and it appears that some may be related to the ROM or at least Registry Entries. Hopefully someone will have experienced and solved the problem.

TYTN 2 won't turn on

Sorry this was previously posted in the wrong forum, mis described as a tytn!
My son is unable to turn his tytn2 on, I think the battery has run down completely, as when I turn it on, I get the "smart mobilty" flash screen with the RGB data, then it turns off as if completely flat, when I plug the charger in, the led charging lighton the top of the phone does not light. At the moment I have tried removing the battery for a while to see of that "resets" it, I have also tried soft reseting but no joy yet.
Doing a bit of research, it looks like the fuse may have blown, I have emailed a repair company who have quoted £40+vat + £6 postage each way, which works out at £58, is the fuse the likely cause, could I get fixed anywhere else, looking on the htc manuals it would appear to definitely not be a diy fix (not for me anyway!)

Try charging from the USB cable plugged into a PC
Apk1 said:
I think the battery has run down completely, as when I turn it on, I get the "smart mobilty" flash screen with the RGB data, then it turns off as if completely flat, when I plug the charger in, the led charging lighton the top of the phone does not light. At the moment I have tried removing the battery for a while to see of that "resets" it, I have also tried soft reseting but no joy yet.
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Sounds very familiar so far... no blown fuse involved here however, it was a blown HTC supplied original mains power supply unit in my case - the light on the power supply stopped working also. Although I could have had this replaced for free under warranty, I didn't want another of the same type (which is all HTC said they'd provide), so I splashed out on an £8.99 Power Supply from a company based in Aylesbury. It has a shiny black plastic case (nicely matching the TyTN II case), works at both 110 and 230 Volts and came with 4 interchangable mains socket adapters for use with different mains sockets around the world. Before you rush out to get another PSU however, check if the light on the power supply still works. Will the phone charge if you connect it to a PC via the USB cable and does the phone light come on in this case (note that the phone doesn't need to be powered on to charge the battery this way, as long as the PC it's connected to is up and running)? If not, you may have a damaged USB port on the TyTN II and although this can be repaired, if it's out of warranty, a repair centre would need to do the work if you're not handy with that sort of thing. HTC have a repair depot in Kingston, Milton Keynes that should be able to do this sort of thing. Depending how your results go with the above tests, you could give them a call, the number is in your manual.

I have tried 2 chargers + the usb, no lights on phone, if I plug in my TP2 it charges correctly, so I think the fault is with the phone, it is now getting as far as the windows screen then dying (presumably after standing for a day or so the battery has recovered enough to go a little further) so the fault would appear to be somewhere in the charging circuit.

Options, options
Apk1 said:
the fault would appear to be somewhere in the charging circuit.
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Which includes the USB port on the bottom of the phone. Have a careful look for any bent or broken pins there. It's also worth searching here on xda-dev for broken Kaiser USB port threads because this is a topic which has been posted about many times.
If you don't want the expense of getting the phone repaired and can make do without a working USB charging port, you can always buy a Kaiser charging cradle that comes with an additional battery bay to use as a spare charger then just use the battery bay to charge a spare battery and swap them over when reqd. You could also use bluetooth for Activesyncing (buying a bluetooth dongle for the pc to be synched with if needed).

My sons 8925 did the same thing.. and even though his USB looked to be "perfect" it was the problem... It stopped taking a charge from it.. out "work around" involved ordering one of those phone docking stands which had a seperate battery charger and an extra battery or 2.. Then he just had to swap batteries when one died and charge it in the stand.. We did a 3 battery... 1 for in the phone, one for in his wallet so he had one to swap anywhere, and 1 for in the charger.. it worked well (and he is a heavy user of the Wifi and GPS and such)..I hope this helps you out!

Another brick in the Wall... :-( Needing help with Wizard

Shortly: I flashed a new rom (not so new... Mameli 2.0 with WM6.1) and the upgrade process stuck on 99%, computer saying "All Done"
No so... trying to reboot the Wizard gets up the bootloader screen... no problem, will you say BUT... I was in a hurry so I leave the USB cable connected and go away for a few hours (I suppose the USB cable may keep powered the device but now I guess no... )
So, when I came back, the Wizard was turned off.
First try was soft resetting the device with no success: screen remains black.
Then I try to connect the power supply and nothing happened...
Then I pull off the battery and keep it off for a few seconds... I was googling with the device in this state when the bootloader screen pops up for not more then 15 seconds then blank again...
No way to enter bootloader mode or to hard reset the device...
I suppose the battery goes almost flat... and I've not a cradle... is there any way to charge the battery? or a way to build up a cradle-substitute?
May be the issue due to battery flat?
Thanks, Pino

Try plugging in to the original charger, not a USB cable, with the power off.
After about a minute you should see the orange LED turn on.
At least that has worked for me when my battery has been dead.

Nothing... It was already done... I suppose the charging doesn't happen if the OS didn't load... even if I read about some stating that if the charger supplies 1.0A the charge happens...
Now I'm trying to charge the battery with "alternatives" methods...
Thank you for your interest

and so?!?!?
So much lurking... noone writing?
Ideas welcome....

I've done something similar to this too, i.e., where battery gets so low that phone cannot start charging cycle.
Here is what I have done. Take note on the battery of the positive and negative terminals (clearly marked on battery). Use a regular 9V battery and some wire (or 9V connector) and connect the 9V to the phone battery (+ to + and - to -). Allow the phone battery to recharge some from the 9V. I suggest connecting for about 1 minute or so and then disconnecting again for 1 minute or so, and repeat this cycle a dozen times or (or more) using this 50% duty cycle charging. (not sure about charging current, nor heating of battery and don't want to overheat or damage the phone battery).
After giving the phone battery some (re)charging, then try plugging phone in to see if charging cycle comes on. (try first without trying to turn on the phone. If no response then try turning phone on while plugged in to USB). Generally makes no difference whether using USB plugged into computer, original charger or after market, ... phone does not, nor cannot discriminate between different 5V 'USB' sources.
If this doesn't work then the next step is to carefully touch the 9 V to the battery while in the phone and connected to USB (and to play this safe use charger, and not computer USB ... don't want to risk damage to computer). I would only try this if you feel extremely comfortable with electronics and voltages (albeit this is very low voltage) and as a last resort. KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL BE DOING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, and I don't want to be blamed for anything that may go wrong with the phone or otherwise by you trying this. This has worked for me on several occassions, but I am an engineer who has experimented with electronic ciruits off and on for 16 + years and so feel comfortable doing stuff like this. (again remember + to + and - to -, battery to battery).
Good Luck

First of all... Thanks for replying...
The problem isn't due to battery too much empty (it's a frequent issue, with mobile phones too...)
I suppose the Wizard needs be correctly initialized to start charging the battery and mine was in bootloader mode.
Sometimes I am able to power up the system for a little while and the bootloader screen appears but the battery doesn't charges so I cannot disconnect the power supply... this is why I suppose I'd get better times if I got a cradle.
Now I'm trying to arrange a flying connection between the battery and my kaiser's desktop charger to give the battery a bit of charge and verify my ipotesys (uh-oh... it's correctly spelled? sorry for my bad english....)
OK, wish me luck
stay tuned...

OK, no more bricked
The issue, as I supposed, was due to a flat battery!!!
I tried unsuccessfully to charge it back using the external charger for my Kaiser, probably the unsuccess was due to difficult to obtain a stable contact between charger pins and battery leads...
After that I remembered I had another battery. It wasn't used for a bit of months (I use the wizard just as backup, when the Kaiser is out of order) but luckily I stored it full charged so the battery was able to make my wizard power up (strange thing, I needed to keep the power button pressed as the device powers down as soon as I release the button!!!)
I tried to update the rom again but it failed at 99% so now I reverted to an old rom but the device is still alive...
Maybe I'll try again the update but not before having fully charged both batteries
See You and thanks to everyone tried to help...
Pino

Tytn II not charging

Hi Peeps
My Tytn II does not want to charge. When I plug the charger in an orange LED lights on the front panel which would indicate that it is charging, however the battery doesn't seem to actually get charged. I have tried 2 different batteries and it is the same with both. I can't see any problems with the pins either.
Anyone got any ideas!
Thanks a lot.
Mark

sparky09 said:
Hi Peeps
My Tytn II does not want to charge. When I plug the charger in an orange LED lights on the front panel which would indicate that it is charging, however the battery doesn't seem to actually get charged. I have tried 2 different batteries and it is the same with both. I can't see any problems with the pins either.
Anyone got any ideas!
Thanks a lot.
Mark
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Will it charge with a usb cable ? Will it sync ? My Kaiser hasn't been able to charge with wall or car chrger for a while now, but it will still charge with usb.

Check the output on your charger...for a while I was using a 150ma charger by accident and wondering why the battery level was barely budging

If you can't charge when using battery charger but are able to charge when using USB maybe your charger doesn't supply enough current to charge the battery.
Usually you can read power rating on the lower side of the charger and it's better if it's near 1000 mA (o 1 A)...
Using one of my car charger when TomTom is on and I use bluetooth makes my kaiser drain battery as that charger doesn't supply current enough...
You may check the follow: drive your phone in stand by and check if the battery really starts charging... It positive, this is the proof your matter came from a faulty/insufficient charger.

Tilt not charging
I have a Tilt that I upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1. Prior to upgrading to WM6.1, my phone charged and synced via an USB without issue. After I upgraded - only the AC charger would work. I switched USB cables, tried different car chargers, different manufacturers of car chargers - every thing I could think of but I can only charge the phone through the factory charger!
My wife has a tilt as well, but is running the original 6.0 ROM and can use any charger or sync cable without encountering any problems.
Any help with this would be appreciated.
Fred

sma1974 said:
I have a Tilt that I upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1. Prior to upgrading to WM6.1, my phone charged and synced via an USB without issue. After I upgraded - only the AC charger would work.
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It won't explain the car chargers not working (assuming they work fine on your wifes Tilt) but if you check Settings -> System -> Power -> Advanced Tab, there is a tick box at the bottom, along the lines of not charging when connected to USB, is this ticked? What colour light is displayed when you plug it into a USB port when the Tilt is powered down fully?