Hello guys,
I've recently purchased some games directly from the gameloft shop, only to find they run execrably slow.
This got me very annoyed so i naturally tried other games, for testing's sake, with the same results.
Now i've tried this with different ROMs, NRG's latest WM6.5 as well as Natf's 6.1.
And yes, i did apply the Ace game fix on WM6.5
What i really want to know is, am i the only one that encounters these problems? Is there a fix for this?
Built in games like Teeter work flawlessly but any other java or cab game is
It seems just wrong that on my previous Sony Ericsson phones mostly any game would run so fluent, and on my Touch Pro with ram, 500+ CPU and so on it runs like crap, mind the expression.
It sounds like you, don't know how the problem could persist over multiple roms though...
It is strange indeed, not to mention annoying.
I have heard that there are driver packs.
So far i've found a version of the ATI driver linked by a member, the same on i'm attaching in this post, for veridicity's sake.
Could anyone please direct me to any other recommended drivers for my Raph?
Thanks in advance.
I think it has to do with the GPU. The games may not take advantage of it, and rely on the CPU. I also downloaded a game from ATT "Peggle" which I really like, but runs at 20fps or less, very annoying also. I have not found a fix yet, and I'm not sure there will ever be. I've tried the game on a TP2 and same thing.
I'm just waiting for the HD2 to come to the US, and I doubt I will have any problems with the game on that device
Well, guess i can let this die, i've read around and noticed it's a general issue, due to the Qualcomm chip and stuff.
Decided to sell away this piece of junk. GG HTC for awesome support! :|
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Hello people
I have read many of the threads in this section.
I know that the Video Driver problem is not solved yet n will not be solved..as per HTC's reply
Is it worth investing on HTC TYTN2??
Is it stable coz many people say the touch screen is not accurate and even it has some reception problems?
Or shall i go for HTC P4350??
Diamond-a BIG NO..funniest part is that its cheaper than TYTN2..ladies phone n moreover the diamond thread is almost full reveling its original true colour..bad reviews..infact worst..
Plz help n suggest me which one to go for.
Thank u
yea deffinetly worth the investment...driver iisues will be taken care of at about the same time htc drops the driver for the touch pro and diamond which have similar chipsets so thats for sure..just taken some time..other then that its one of the best phones out on the market...and me personally i think it cruches the iphone in so many ways so dont even consider the ****ty iphone...its just a pretty toy. If you want something that will actually do things and has a great inferstructure< the att tilt/ kaiser is one of the best out there...built in GPS, wifi bluetooth..you name it. And with the rapidly growing software available for pocket pc...the downloads are endless and the tweaking is endless..something you cant do with alot of phones, especially with the iphone
moegdaog said:
yea deffinetly worth the investment...driver iisues will be taken care of at about the same time htc drops the driver for the touch pro and diamond which have similar chipsets so thats for sure..just taken some time..other then that its one of the best phones out on the market...and me personally i think it cruches the iphone in so many ways so dont even consider the ****ty iphone...its just a pretty toy. If you want something that will actually do things and has a great inferstructure< the att tilt/ kaiser is one of the best out there...built in GPS, wifi bluetooth..you name it. And with the rapidly growing software available for pocket pc...the downloads are endless and the tweaking is endless..something you cant do with alot of phones, especially with the iphone
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Nice to hear from u.Definitely i would never replace my windows stream to an Iphone.
I have to say, I'm a hardcore FPS/MMORPG gamer I play games 6+ hours a day... I suggest if you want smooth gaming experience, high fps, go for a PC or laptop with topnotch nvidia graphics card, a PSP or a NINTENDO DS... If you want watch online videos on TYTN II, yes, it works perfectly fine. I watch m.youtube.com on it all the time and the frame rate is SMOOTH enough to watch!
People are over reacting and amplifying about the graphics problem on a lot of HTC devices. I had the tytn ii for almost a month now and I couldn't be happier with the update. I had bunch nokia phones before, (as you can see from my signature) and there is a good reason I switched to a WinMo device... because it's customization ability and widely available programs.
Well... the only time the video is not working so well is when you try to play .mpg or .avi files... they play slow like a turtle, about 3-5 frames per second...
Just my 2 cent opinion.
wait for the sony xperia x1 or the samsung omnia, as good as the kaiser is its not worth getting it now..its been out for a year and new devices are coming out in the next 2-6 months that will CRUSH the kaiser..phones that actually have an acceleromter for one thing lol
Did you say Samsung. They make the worst Windows Mobile devices. Blackjack I and Blackjack II have internet problems. I do tech support and have to deal with them every day. The settings will be correct but the internet wont connect. You shouldn't have to do a master reset to get the phone working. I would never buy a samsung anything!!.
Xperia X1 is hot so is the Touch Pro!!
How many times a month do we get this question?
Seems like everyday, I heard there were video driver problems, should I buy it.
The only persona that can actually tell if you should buy it or not is you. Every phone has a little "con" the iPhone's happens to be that it doesn't support MMS while even the Cheap Nokia Free phones do.
So I'd say Go to a Cell store and play with it, that is the only way you will actually know.
I was just about to buy Kaiser when I came accros this issue with video drivers. Was this sorted out or shoud I start looking for alternative pda?
I think we all love it but for some of its pains. You could get a touch pro; very good by the looks of things.
or an xperia
There's been some improvement with www.HTCClassaction.org. It's nice, but doesn't fix it all.
My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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My recommendation has always been to go into the Cell Providers Store and use the Kaiser. Get a feel for it. If you like it buy it. If not put it down and pick up another phone to try.
I'm actually surprised how much the video drivers or lack there of has been a prolbem for me.
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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I don't know if the store experience is really what you should use to rate the phone, because you would only see it in stock ROM.... I think custom rom is much better and faster, inorder to experience that, you need to buy it... Can't you buy it, try it out for couple of days, and return it if you don't like it?
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Yes I bet you could try it thgat way. I'm simply talking about holding it in your hands and getting a tactile feel for the device. You don't buy a baseball mitt that doesn't feel right in your hands do you. And also with stock ROMs you can get a feel for the workings. I guess I should have clarified that point.
Realize that by trying it out in the store you are running a Stock ROM, cooked ROMs and exponentially better in performance. (Wow this is the first time I got to use the word "exponentially" since I learned it in High School.)
All i can say is stay away from anything with a qualcomm process, later this year and next year there will be many devices released with different processors other than qualcomm.
newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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newb here but, what does the video drivers do exactly, ive used my friends original, non upgraded htc tytn2 and it didnt seem that bad. what would the drivers improve, just the speed or somethig?
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That's exactly my point!
Apparently it makes Doom run slow.... But I don't care to play games on a 2.8" screen.
I have to agree with Jimmy. I use for my tilt for mainly messing around on the net when I'm bored or playing some small time games, no emulators or nothing. I thoroughly enjoy my device especially with all the help and fixes from here on XDA. I do feel that the drivers issues need to be fixed because a majority of users were misled... However depending on what you use it for the lack of drivers isnt that big a deal. Hell I like mine so much Ive pretty much kept it stock(no flashing of ROMS)
If you are getting it at a provider discount, go for it. Can't go wrong at that price point for AT&T for example. It's still an amazing high end phone, especially if you do Custom ROM.
Hi guys,
im an orange customer and I'm for a an upgrade next Thursday. I was hoping to get a Touch Pro, but they dont seem to be bringing that out just yet on Orange so my alternative is the diamond.
I have heard lots of horror stories on it being very laggy and un-responsive due the the lower hardware specs. this with the un-ability to use any MMC Cards was one of the reasons i was routing for the pro.
They have now released a new rom and this has improved things a lot i hear but of-course there is not upgrade for the orange rom other than using a cooked one i assume as the HTC official will not work.
my question... If I go for the Diamond, am I downgrading to much... should I just be patient and wait ? would you say its a worthwhile phone ?
Thanks for you replies in advance, and this is an opinion thread, no flaming someone for their opinion necessary. my spelling well thats another matter ....
While the TouchPro is definitely more powerful than Diamond, I have bought Diamond recently and don't have any performance or usability issues so far. I am using the ROM that came from Telstra and am quite happy with it but I suppose over time, I would still go to try out some cooked ROMs as I have been addicted to flashing with my Hermes for the last 2 years.
To be short: If you don't need a qwerty keyboard and if you don't need more than 4GB storage, buy the Diamond. Nothing else comes close.
All the negative things you've heard about like slowness and such can be solved by installing a custom ROM like SwiftBL 6.0. My Diamond is not only fast, it almost flies.
The screen is the best on the market, the interface is great, GPS is excellent etc. etc. etc.
The Diamond is the PDA better than I ever try to date ...
I abandoned my P3600 move to this concentration of technology and style and I have not yet repented ...
The battery does not last much, but on the site HTC sell at a price not excessive plus the battery.
I had heard about the slowness in response and fluidity of TF3D, but even without resorting to custom ROM, just act with a registry editor on the registry, change some value and that's it ... now is my finger that is not behind the TF3D.
If I may advise, order!
I'm sorry to ruin, but the device is slow.
Before the diamond I had an i-mate jam running windows mobile 2003SE, which should be slower than the diamond, it has
an 400MHz Xscale cpu but the OS / phone way more responsive.
In the diamond it takes me few clicks to answer a phone call, also few seconds to disconnect one also the random freezes.. oh the freezes.. jezz
this driving me crazy when I hit the START button and it takes ~2 seconds to understand..
(And yes, I use dutty's cooked rom V1.7 1.93 which is considered the fastest)
There are good things of course, like the screen which is perfect, the built in GPS which works flawlessly and the TF3D interface
which I hope some time will work faster..
Meanwhile, I still hope I would be able to install Android when it comes out.
Btw, the screen might be perfect but I've also had an iphone, and its a different touch
experience, the multi touch points on the screen and no pen needed to work around are great.
One more annoying thing is the mini-usb.. very pointless, why not to use the regular standard usb port :\
Overall, I'm not too happy mainly due to the performance issues.
WM6.1 is too heavy for this phone, imo.
I had the same issues, but with 1.37 ROM. I was quite disappointed until I upgraded to 1.93 ROM. Those just can't compare, everything is silky smooth and runs really really fast. Now I'm soo glad i bought the phone, it works flawlessly-TF3D and WM6.1...of course thanks to this brilliant forum!
Bottom line: With minor tweaks and some patience you will be more than satisfied with the device. I was sold to the design, now I am to the WM too...
Even if I remove the TF3D interface its still less responsive than needed so I dont know what are you talking
about and I'm also running 1.93 dutty's ROM v1.7.
The whole thing feels like VISTA vs XP in performance terms..
It depend if you are luky or not, my father has a diamond too and had problems with 1.37 and now with the 1.93 he has a lot more problems. For me that was realy good with the Rom 1.37 and now impossible to use GPS updates with the 1.93; two phones and two diffrent experience. Impossible to use Skype in phone to phone over IP but great with PC to phone. Now there is a lot of tweaks realy usefull and this phone is great with a long battery life (if you use what you need when you need). I hope that will help you.
@Delusionz
I really feel sorry to hear that, mate. I am now on the official WWE 1.93 and it's just another world compared to the previous. Everything seems the way i like, which is also great thing with WM, cause lots of things are customizable(+all those performance tweaks which are great). For instance, if i click Start button, it opens down immediately...no lags whatsoever. On 1.37 it was only question of time...Did you try any other ROMs too?
@dge
I had this quick gps problem too...but on 1.37...now it's all fine...i guess we mean the same thing...but long battery life is not its plus...with some tweaking 2 days...maybe 2 and 1/2 days...of course with medium to low usage...
this is not a chat room
every week somebody starts a thread like this...every week.
there is plenty of reviews on the net (try google) and plenty of threads on this subject.
here you have a small collection of related threads. i searched using the word opinion and i got: personal opinions, comparisons with iPhone, comparisons with omnia, problems, why some ppl love their diamond, why some hate it....lots and lots of info!!
try and search the info you need. read! read! this is not a chat room!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419563&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415151&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408477&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414619&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411682&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402458&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398786&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411791&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411830&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400304&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411478&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402321&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409022&highlight=opinion
no its not a chat room but....
a forum to discuss
chill out.....go have a cup of tea or something
Some of the alleged "slowness" is inherent to all Windows Mobile devices. 4 years ago, WM phones took 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. Now, after all this improvement, they still take 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. This is not Diamond's fault, but rather Microsoft's.
Where Diamond shines is in comparison to other WM phones on the market, not iPhone. If you want extreme speed, buy iPhone. If you want business features with extreme speed and don't need touchscreen, buy BlackBerry Bold. If you want Windows Mobile, but the Diamond. Simple as that...
thanks everyone for there opinions and advice if. Its one of the reasons i like this forum as "most" people are friendly and happy to give advice.
Im not an Iphone man, this will be my 4th HTC and 5th WM device so i understand all to well the slowness of WM and if the mutterings i heard were just concerning that and not the device hardware then i think im sold.
I think i will miss-out the SD Card Slot and TV-Out of the Pro but hey its free! I cant argue to much.
Thanks Again,
Check this out:
Plenty of happy owners.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
IMO best phone out there by far, and it does not stop there since the phone is new, everyday brings new tweaks and apps that make it even better.
Just wondering if anyone has considered trying to get this epic game going on the kaiser with D3D working. I've seen quake and doom in action and thought maybe since quake is pretty much the same engine...
I'm still new on this htc stuff, just lost a palm centro to a cracked screen and man, I'm glad I did. This thing is amazing once you flash it a couple times....
But yeah, I'd like to see that happen and possibly get some multi player action. But at this point i'm just dreaming. If someone is working on this and needs a tester im down for it!
p.s. searched for half life on the forums and got nothing so i decided to post
It seems valve never made a ppc version of their games like id did for theirs..and I don't think they ever released source code for half-life..in order to be ported to ARM. Hopefully a Tegra device can get developers to port more modern x86 games..battlefield 1942 on a ppc would be nice
Here's something you might like:
http://rapidshare.com/files/196752750/qhl.rar
It's a modified version of quake for mobile with half-life textures and maps etc
Hey all!
I just got a new kaiser, currently am using a clean 6.5 rom.
I've been searching the internet for the past few days because my phone runs programs slowly, the scrolling is laggy (compared to my asus p535 witch is 3 years old). I found out that it has some drivers missing for it to run smoothly, but all the info i found is like two years old like 2008 may or so... I found that 3d drivers are available but the 2d are not yet fixed. Since this information is 2 years old i thought maybe someone can update me slightly? are the drivers fixed now? or will i never have the opportunity to enjoy my new device as a powerfull pocket pc?
Thanks in advance.
or will i never have the opportunity to enjoy my new device as a powerfull pocket pc?
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There is a reason there is no updates to be found.
what do you mean?
lol
I mean that there isn't any sort of post about it because there is nothing to post about. I quoted the answer from your post that applies to what you want to know.
The new roms have the lastest and greatest of things mixed in. The phone is going to run slow foreeeeevvvvvveerrrrrrr.....
i cant believe it, i just got a new phone and wow, it sucks...
The phone is 3 years old, not new by any standard.
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i cant believe it, i just got a new phone and wow, it sucks...
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No award982, your phone does not sucks!
First the reason for your mobile programs run slowly does not mean that you are needing to change the drivers!
I have a Kaiser and it works very fast! In my experiences with several different versions of ROM, Windows Mobile 6.5 always ran slower than the 6.1!
I do not recommend trying to install any drive other than that already comes in its ROM. You have to find a ROM that works perfectly as you want!
I can recommend you 2 ROM for Kaiser: ( this is what I liked )
WinMo 6.1 (I use this)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545821
WinMo 6.5 (the best 6.5 we've tested)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543276
And remember to use HardSPL and Radio recommended by the chef!
thanks, i feel better now
I am also thinking, maybe android fixes the problem?
And mine doesn't run that slow, its just the bug with the touchscreen is that i cant stand...
award982 said:
thanks, i feel better now
I am also thinking, maybe android fixes the problem?
And mine doesn't run that slow, its just the bug with the touchscreen is that i cant stand...
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You can find a lot of stuff that can help with touchscreen sensitivity and smoother scrolling, just search for it. Try Advanced configuration tool and KaiserTweaks, they got lots of useful tweaks. Dont give up, Kaiser is a great phone, when you set it by your taste, you~ll see!