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Well, I was creating a custom ROM with the IPL and SPL files from the T-Mobile 2.26, The Faria / Shogun UWC ROM, the molski Splash screens and the Cingular 2.25 GSM to make a "complete" ROM to see if it would resolve my GSM issues. Computer completely locked up at 4%... After waiting 30 minutes with no progress I figured that it was bricked as the phone now only has the IPL and SPL info on the screen with no GSM or OS being reported. Forced device into bootloader and attempted to reflash but got communication errors with everything. Then for grins (I wasn't grinning!!!) I ran the 1.05 installer which didn't find the phone either ... but then it just went through anyway! The happy Button Beer Splash screen appeared and I had all the 1.x's! Successfully then upgraded back up to the 2.26 and all is well.
I think that someone was smiling down at me!!!
Just wanted to share as maybe this just might help someone.
*** For those that needed the ftp location to Button's 1.05 Basic Downgrade ROM ***
YOU BASTARD, Just Kidding I am happy for you.
Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem
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Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem
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hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest
naeemwaqas said:
hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest
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Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?
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Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?
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na man .... da rom was fu*ked up ... i found out myself how to fix it ... i put da wizard in bootloader den flashed it wiz mokskis rom and its aok now ... but da the thing wiz active sync 4.5 beta ,,, its not connecting is it not compatiable or wat ???
LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D
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LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D
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Get in line! (and bring a lunch as it's a LONG line!)
LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.
Holy cr*p... he said hurry up...lol
sorry, i was just busting up, maybe it's a joke, but foreals, he said "hurry up"... who says that... especially when asking for help. Anyways, just wanted to show my appreciation for the rom, what you, faria, shogun, and all the beta testers are doing is amazing... Can't wait till the release...
ahhh man, i got to do it one more time...
"tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up"...
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LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.
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I agree that there seem to be more and more people now that don't have the patience to wade through the numerous threads and posts here regarding the possible pitfalls regarding upgrading a ROM. Most often that "don't do this if you're not aware of the possible bricking, etc" message is on the very first page goes unread. Of course no one reads those.... I mean, who reads a EULA (End User License Agreement) ???
I'm actually having a great day when I don't respond to a post regarding a question I already answered on the same page... but we've all been there!
And I pity the fool that tries to sue me!
Ah, I'm just ranting as I live for the abuse....
I am glad I did...saved me a lot of potential problems... but anyway, molski's new rom really works great...
a big pat at the back of the great guys in this forum that gave us all the wonderful wizard roms... =)
Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.
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Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.
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OS/2 ... and I see that you're also a "senior member"... my we're showing our age
Actually I kinda liked CP/M but I'm so freak'n old I forget how old I really am ...
(but at least my spelling hasn't suffered...yet!!!)
Ha! Well...yeah, on one hand I still have a copy of OS/2 around here somewhere. On the other hand it wasn't too many years ago when I finally quit my position as the vocalist of a hardcore punk band, so it's all relative.
I make a pretty good living at this development thing and yet when I went to Tmo and got an MDA, there was still a little sticker shock. When I brought it home and thought about updating the radio ROM because the original was terrible, I read about updating for several days before I actually tried it myself. Read about how to recover from a bad flash, read about all the potential problems and how to avoid them. Read and read and read some more and when I thought I had it all down pat, I read it all one more time, just to be sure. And even then, I was sweating bullets when I did the actual update. This wasn't my first PDA phone and I had flashing experience from previous phones, the latest being a blue angel. Now that Tmo has released their 2.26 rom which works very well (for me, anyway), I absolutely refuse to flash anything else anymore because why risk it? To look cool? I don't think so.
Given that, it just boggles my mind how someone could drop that kind of money on a phone, bring it home, slap it onto a usb port and with no experience and not bothering to really read anything, attempt to flash anything and expect (expect!) to be successful. There was that goof I mentioned above and, even better, was that guy who decided the rom image in the ftp folder named "TEST_ROM_DO_NOT_FLASH" (or something like that, I forget offhand) was a good choice who then got downright indignant when people made fun of him for being such an idiot. I just don't get it. I have a 15 year old who thinks more clearly than that....and he can flash his phone. And has. Many times. And that's why I lost patience after a while.
I have no patience (maybe that's why I'm not a real doctor)
I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?
If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!
yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet
Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.
Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???
hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade
First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!
Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?
There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?
True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.
We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...
I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.
I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.
OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.
Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.
It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.
I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
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upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
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@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT
I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?
probably dead
from what i have read on this issue, if you flash a GSM radio it runs on a higher voltage and kills your phone.
if you have the insurance they most likely wont be able to tell what broke it.
well there isnt anything you can do. I hope you have insurence. this is the only way that we have found to brick these phones, is to flash the GSM radio.
good luck
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I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?
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Sorry, this is the end.
I didn't think MoDaCo had a v2 for CDMA heros...maybe thats why it told you to update the radio. Nothing that you can do, I think this is the only thing that has killed a Hero is someone not paying attnetion and updating the radio to a GSM one.
Please no one take this the wrong way, but...
At least once a week there's a thread like this, where someone has fried their phone by flashing the wrong package.
Accidents do happen... that's the way it goes. I've been in the tech industry for over 20 years and I've certainly done my share of "what does this do?", but there are pages and pages (and more pages) relating to the process involved in hacking around on your Hero phone and while it is getting easier to do due to the great work by the devs found here in this forum, reading and comprehension of exactly what it is you're doing should always be your #1 step.
Read, download files, read again, verify that you have the correct items, read some more and then start the process.
It's like the old woodworking saying, measure twice, cut once.
To the OP, it sucks that your phone got fried, but one can hope this serves as another warning to others.
There us definitely a modaco 2.0 cdma. What radio update did you use?
adelaney said:
There us definitely a modaco 2.0 cdma. What radio update did you use?
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It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.
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It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.
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im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?
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im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?
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10 Char limit my butt....
wtphoto said:
im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?
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+1000 ..... After reading a couple foul posts from this guy yesterday, I did a search for all of his posts and at least 3/4 of them are condescending and rude, in addition to being completely unnecessary and unhelpful.
Why do you come here and post when you have nothing positive to add and nothing nice to say. Seriosly, get some anger management and dont chime in unless you plan to help and be constructive.
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+1000 ..... After reading a couple foul posts from this guy yesterday, I did a search for all of his posts and at least 3/4 of them are condescending and rude, in addition to being completely unnecessary and unhelpful.
Why do you come here and post when you have nothing positive to add and nothing nice to say. Seriosly, get some anger management and dont chime in unless you plan to help and be constructive.
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was I constructive and helpful?
jk
to OP:
sorry dude... if u have a Sprint CDMA Hero
and you messed with the RADIO
IT is the end of that phone... dead!
As was advised before, take your phone to a Sprint store and fain ignorance. Say, "For the life of me, I tried to turn it on the other day and it just won't respond!" The techs will fart with it for two hours, calling Sprint's techs and attempting every trick in the book to flash it before finally replacing it with a heartfelt apology. Don't tell them anything that you did to it. Just let them make the determination.
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It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.
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We've all been down this road. Maybe not with flashing a phone, but with other things as well. That's called "learning from your mistake." He got a bit too enthusiastic and had a lapse in judgment...it happens to all of us, including me.
He probably thought he was flashing the MoDaCo CDMA 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero and just accidentally picked up the MoDaCo GSM 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero. Unfortunately, the problem is that the GSM Hero and CDMA Hero are named just that, HTC Hero. There is no real designation to the average user. Even the accessories like batteries between the GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are different...causing an average user to make a mistake and buy the wrong accessory (got close in buying a battery for the GSM Hero because it was labeled as compatible with "HTC Hero"...only problem was it was for the GSM Hero and not the CDMA Hero, but nowhere on the site said that.)
Go easy on the guy...it's unfortunate, but it happened and now he's learned to be more careful in the future.
tkirton said:
We've all been down this road. Maybe not with flashing a phone, but with other things as well. That's called "learning from your mistake." He got a bit too enthusiastic and had a lapse in judgment...it happens to all of us, including me.
He probably thought he was flashing the MoDaCo CDMA 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero and just accidentally picked up the MoDaCo GSM 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero. Unfortunately, the problem is that the GSM Hero and CDMA Hero are named just that, HTC Hero. There is no real designation to the average user. Even the accessories like batteries between the GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are different...causing an average user to make a mistake and buy the wrong accessory (got close in buying a battery for the GSM Hero because it was labeled as compatible with "HTC Hero"...only problem was it was for the GSM Hero and not the CDMA Hero, but nowhere on the site said that.)
Go easy on the guy...it's unfortunate, but it happened and now he's learned to be more careful in the future.
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So curiosity kills me here. If 1.6+ has CDMA support in the future could we potentially have 1 set of roms for both devices?? I guess that is probably just wishful thinking due to other differences, doesn't change the fact the radio is still different and a different driver, not just kernel level stuff.
Ignore me i make less sense as i ramble.
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So curiosity kills me here. If 1.6+ has CDMA support in the future could we potentially have 1 set of roms for both devices?? I guess that is probably just wishful thinking due to other differences, doesn't change the fact the radio is still different and a different driver, not just kernel level stuff.
Ignore me i make less sense as i ramble.
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Theoretically, yes. The ROM should be able to determine which radio is in there and set the settings accordingly (including loading the correct driver).
But, that's in theory. Not sure if that is how this going to play out at 2.1 (since that's the next release for our phone).
wtphoto said:
where you born with total knowledge of the android system?
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Hardly. I learn something every day.
But it doesn't take "total knowledge of the Android system" to know that:
(A) This over here isn't meant for my phone
(B) People repeatedly post saying "don't do it!"
(C) People who do it anyway report bricking their phone
should lead to:
(D) I really shouldn't do that.
It just takes normal reasoning ability.
I have zero problem with someone who says "gee, I don't understand the difference, will you tell me?"... but the one who decides to do something, I am going to assume the same of him that I would hope he assumes of me.
That he has a clue.
People who don't have a clue should be expecting to be reminded of the fact. This is how people *learn*. Conversely, if I make some stupid mistake, I hope someone pokes ME about it, too.
XDA is a great resource. If only more people would actually use it.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled fora.
To OP:
Do what they said and play it ignorant at a repair center, they will have no clue what happened and give you a new phone.
Well I have insurance so maybe that is why but who knows.
Don't worry OP I did the same mistake, just keep reading and you will be fine. Don't be afraid to get back into the modding scene, just read up before you try anything next time, and maybe create a thread to verify you have a solid process before doing it, once you learn everything that you need to be successful.
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I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?
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Okay...once you get your phone back from Sprint and you want to mod it again, my suggestion is to stick to the Hero CDMA subforum for your ROMs. All are guaranteed not to brick your phone.
The Darktremor has a list and links to updated ROMs.
Thanks for the info guys!
there are no sprint stores near by but I should be able to call support about it.
I know its a no no but they wouldn't be able to tell if the MEID was 0ed out would they?
arcataslacker said:
Thanks for the info guys!
there are no sprint stores near by but I should be able to call support about it.
I know its a no no but they wouldn't be able to tell if the MEID was 0ed out would they?
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No...without actually getting into the phone, they can't tell if you messed with it. And since the phone is dead, they won't be able to tell you tried to mod it. Just do what everyone here says and play ignorant.
Let me 1st say a huge thank you to dzo and all the devs I have been following the vouge andoid from .9 - 2.2 from sd loading to nand flashing, from having to boot data in windows defore booting in to android, from the bule keyboard to rouge tools, and it has been a hell of a ride. The vouge was my 1st smart phone and I hated wm6 but android open up new doors, and hacking became a way of life. Im sad to say I was always in the background chicking for the next update, and never more then an end user. But everyone here always made me feel welcomed. I will miss my vouge thank you all for never letting it die and taking it places I never dreamed. I will miss all of you the most
however all things must come to an end, and im moving on with my new toy. I just picked a samsung galaxy s and will be joining that group. Thank you all again for last 2 years
Nate
Can we get a hip-hip hooray?
It's alright, boy. Some day most of us will move to another device. By the way, how did you get your Samsung Galaxy S? I want one used and cheap
Welcome to the sgs club
Hope you enjoy the new phone! Congrats!
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Hope you enjoy the new phone! Congrats!
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Jamezelle, congrats on the modship!
I must say, going from my tilt with 2.2 to the sgs with 2.1 was a little bit of a disappointment but it's a great phone. Although I wish the community was as great as this one was.
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Welcome to the sgs club
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hey Mssmison are you doing any development for SGS
i have the Verizon Fascinate and i know you are not in the US but i was hoping we might have a developer with you kind of back ground
if you bo build a Rom, will it work for Verizon (crosses fingers), let me know if you need any testers
got to dump this touchwiz crap they even build "bing" in to it
i never though i would see the day where "bing" would be the default search on an android
its so odd to go from 2.2 on my vogue to 2.1 on my SGS
that is why i will miss this group
everyone here worked so hard and got out updates so fast i think this is the best group on xda
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I must say, going from my tilt with 2.2 to the sgs with 2.1 was a little bit of a disappointment but it's a great phone. Although I wish the community was as great as this one was.
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i agree so that means we need to make it great
i just wish it was all one group because having it broken up by US carrier seams point less it would be easier for everyone to work together if it was one group
if you star developing roms and you need a tester for Verizon Fascinate let me know would love to get the SGS group working as well as this one did
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It's alright, boy. Some day most of us will move to another device. By the way, how did you get your Samsung Galaxy S? I want one used and cheap
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i got my SGS from Best Buy in the US
and it was Free!!! which is the biggest reason i got this phone
Best Buy is running a deal where every Friday for the month of Oct. they are offering a different phone from each US carrier for free with a new 2 year contract
my contract with Verizon ended months ago and just like you i was waiting for a great deal because i was not going to pay $200 for a new phone when i had my vouge that worked great
I've also been following the development here. I am so very thankful for everyones hard work towards making the vogue as up to date as it can be. I last ran Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [Deodexed] [RLS15] before my phone broke. Somehow the charger I used at work fried the thing and I had to move on. I now have an xperia x10a. I have some mixed feelings about the thing but I guess it is upgrade enough. Anyway. Thanks again. I will still keep reading most of the stuff here on the vogue. That thing was pretty good to me.
when i see posts like this it saddens me because i know there is one less user to continue the legacy of the 6900. however it gladdens me that individuals will keep up with technology.
brings to mind a saying i got from my dad... all technology gets out dated - at that point we can chose to keep it alive for something else, or toss it.
he made that comment to me when my 486box turned Unix bit the big one via lightning strike.
good luck on your new journey sir- congrats on your new technology- may it suit you well.