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Calling All COOKS: Touch Pro2 / Diamond2 ROM Dump

the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here :[ Link removed due to it not being a "real/official" diamond2 dump... ]
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?

itsallsubliminal said:
the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?
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It's not. I bet it's a rom dump from Dutty's HD rom but it does have a lot of goodies in it.

its a dump from duttys

People have no respect! The community really should reject anyone using this dump without explicit approval from Dutty

i see... thanks for clearing that up guys...
but for real tho, when a real dump is out, would it be hard to port? or will the ball get rollin pretty darn fast?

I've been googling for about 5 or 6hrs and haven't found anything that is legit.... If i find something i'll post some links.

good lookin out bxsteez! thanks man

I just know a Diamond2 was stolen in MWC2009....

isnt it early to find a rom dump?
i thought these usually show up when manufacturers have their build from HTC or whatever. These should be based on WM 6.5 no?

My information about the diamond's 2 are that there are wm6.1 Prof. devices. If you want, It is possible to make an offical update to 6.5, so HTC on a video on youtube by the WMC.
cemetry

So was Dutty the one who stole the device from HTC's CEO?

There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.

Bxsteez said:
There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.
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have you had a look at jerpleleas kitchen? I'm downloading it now to see if it is the D2 rom.

I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.

Bxsteez said:
I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.
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It looks like it's got pretty much all the obtained rhodium stuff in it, mixed with some kovsky and and HD.
For novices it's sublimely easy to build with, literally one button and choose what apps you want..
Does have many of the same bugs Itjes B1 had, (contacts etc) and a load of custom icons which aren't to my tastes. but overall it's very very impressive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483703 (the 1.5.14)

Nice i'll try it when i get home. It doesn't happen to have the 21018 SYS does it?
OH wow there are so many different kitchens. I wonder how tfl3d from touch pro2 will work on windows 6.5 better than it does on 6.1...

Possible Stupid Question About Titanium

I'm going to ask what is probably a VERY ridiculous question and I apologize. I've been busy tweaking Home 2 so much that I've apparently missed the boat on the WM 6.5 stuff.
All of it looks great. Phenomenal job everyone. But (and here's the stupid question), how do you even get started with this UI people are obsessing on? I have a Kaiser. There are a couple of cooked ROMs using it, I know. But, let's say, I want to use a ROM where it's NOT cooked in already, is there a way to use, say, PDACorner's ROM with Titanium. I can't find a simple cab install anywhere.
Just curious. Thanks.
Eric

And one other thing
I did try a ROM with it built in, but instructions for adding applets is rather vague. Simply installing doesn't seem to do the trick and plug-in installer wasn't working. Some help there would be nice too.

oscarbum said:
I'm going to ask what is probably a VERY ridiculous question and I apologize. I've been busy tweaking Home 2 so much that I've apparently missed the boat on the WM 6.5 stuff.
All of it looks great. Phenomenal job everyone. But (and here's the stupid question), how do you even get started with this UI people are obsessing on? I have a Kaiser. There are a couple of cooked ROMs using it, I know. But, let's say, I want to use a ROM where it's NOT cooked in already, is there a way to use, say, PDACorner's ROM with Titanium. I can't find a simple cab install anywhere.
Just curious. Thanks.
Eric
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It is part of Windows Mobile 6.5 , and since WM 6.5 has not been officially released for use yet, the only place you will find Titanium is in cooked roms based on leaked builds. MS will also never release it as an add on cab.
There are many threads currently going on how to edit the cpr files add plugins.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504324
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506787

Thank you for responding. I've tried a couple of ROMs where it was already cooked in, but they were pretty slow and never felt all that stable. Hence, the question about a cabbed version to use in an already trustworthy ROM.
I had previously gone through both of those threads, but they seem to be more about skinning and developing new plug-ins than on how exactly to install them.
Either way, it seems that WM 6.5, for now, is much like the Android for Kaiser thread in that if you aren't following constantly, it'll slip right past you and take forever to catch up.
Thanks for your help.
EDIT: Somehow I missed the word "beta".

A call for Dutty, Miri, Leo and all other great developers!

I think this is a big shame for such a big community to not have xperia panel working on HD. Almost a year passed and still there is no successful rom.
Nowadays we should use something like "[ROM] [July20] [Celestial SExperia Ultimate v3.2] [All panels working perfectly and smooth, very verf fast and stable!!!]. But we don't.
I think most people will glad to see something entirely new on their phone instead updating same thing. Likewise, it could be fun for the developers.
And i am ready to support.. Since i am not a coder, i can only donate.
Anyway.. What do you say guys??

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I think this is a big shame for such a big community to not have xperia panel working on HD. Almost a year passed and still there is no successful rom.
Nowadays we should use something like "[ROM] [July20] [Celestial SExperia Ultimate v3.2] [All panels working perfectly and smooth, very verf fast and stable!!!]. But we don't.
I think most people will glad to see something entirely new on their phone instead updating same thing. Likewise, it could be fun for the developers.
And i am ready to support.. Since i am not a coder, i can only donate.
Anyway.. What do you say guys??
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I agree with you celestial123!!
Come on guys you are all great developers.

some developers are already working on it but it wouldn't be easy.
As the X1 panel has many things hardcode into the programme. unlike HTC, they are from the same manufacturer and the compatibility is better (HTC wants to reuse code on most of its phone).
p.s. I know X1 is made by HTC.. but the software isn't.

my friend has a x1, he told me the panels ist good as toucflo, he uses a rom with tflo.. but i d like to test the panels....

it comes down to personal preferences. Manila is just fine for me, looking forward to a proper working M2.5.
itje started a project on that a while back, I have not seen any progress in quite a while now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465547

I think the Chefs are doing their job perfectly, testing out manila 2.5 for us, and giving us a taste of it. I think they should stay on the road they are travelling, I would prefer manila 2.5 over panels.

I really agree with OnlinePredator
I think X-panel can give us a new face to our HTC device
But for me, nothing more complete as a whole package than TF3D, if we look after the functionality.
I prefer TF3D over panel, even Titanium, cause it's all there!
But I'd like to test panel too

To be honest I think Panels on the HD is a waste of time, TF3D is better and is improving all the time. There are some cool little things with the panels like the fish and stuff, but it's all for show.
Panels working really nicely would be a nice little bonus to have a bit of a play with but I think most ROM developers are focused on providing a better and more usable experience for users than HTC provides, panels wouldn't aid this to be honest.

Looking forward we all gonna buy new devices in few months, chiefs included.
Panels or Android on Hd don't have sense. It's already hard to make Manila run the smoothest way...
I would be sooo happy to run these features ! (as I always wanted to ).
But it seems to be almost impossible.
And even if someone reaches it, most of us will be under Android.
So why loosing time on something we won't need ?

If you want my two cents, each chef has the right to do want they want to do. If it appears that the no chef is working on getting the panels onto the HD, it is most likely because of a number of reasons, mainly because they either haven't time or do not want the panels.
I too agree with OnlinePredator. I think the Chefs are doing a great job and I'm looking forward to a stable, smooth manila 2.5 with few bugs.
IMHO I prefer manila 2.5 over the panels and I believe a lot of chef's also have same feelings.

I've been working on getting the panels working for a while.
I used to have an X1, and can fairly convincingly say that the panels are a waste of time for most parts, so I've been playing with them, basically because I can, its been more of an academic exercise than anything..
Now you can quite happily get one or two of the basic panels working, there are even cabs out there that do it, but some of the others (the almost useful ones) such as the last media browser dont work, there are hardcoded calls to some X1 bits, bits that dont seem to work on the HD.
I've resorted to hexediting the dlls to get it working, but when I manage to get one bit sorted another one pops up and causes problems..
I was getting far too frustrated with it, and as others have said manila 2.5 is so much more interesting, that i havent done anything for a while on the panels.

I think one of the reasons we have so many good chefs here, is that HTC has provided us a very poor stock ROM and no aftersales support. We need cooked ROMs which are closed to what we are expecting for.
Panel is just an option.

fards said:
I've been working on getting the panels working for a while.
I used to have an X1, and can fairly convincingly say that the panels are a waste of time for most parts, so I've been playing with them, basically because I can, its been more of an academic exercise than anything..
Now you can quite happily get one or two of the basic panels working, there are even cabs out there that do it, but some of the others (the almost useful ones) such as the last media browser dont work, there are hardcoded calls to some X1 bits, bits that dont seem to work on the HD.
I've resorted to hexediting the dlls to get it working, but when I manage to get one bit sorted another one pops up and causes problems..
I was getting far too frustrated with it, and as others have said manila 2.5 is so much more interesting, that i havent done anything for a while on the panels.
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Thanks for update on this bro

Live Wallpapers

OK, I've noticed that the CDMA Hero's can get Live Wallpapers in Sense. Is it possible to make them work on the 'GSM' ones too?

You probably saw that on a phone with a custom rom, because the Hero can't pull off Rosie AND Live WP's running.

cdma heros are running 2.1 with sense + live wallpapers
Sent from my Heroc using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

nprussel has done it again. He's got sense with live wallpapers running. Probably releasing it in rom 5.3. Got this info via twitter.
Guess we have to be patient for a few day's.

Pagan said:
nprussel has done it again. He's got sense with live wallpapers running. Probably releasing it in rom 5.3. Got this info via twitter.
Guess we have to be patient for a few day's.
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Actually nprussel hasn't done anything, zenulator & mssmision are the ones who have gotten live wallpaper's working on the hero CDMA which also works for the GSM with no additional changes.
I have already built a 2.1 sense rom with zenulator & mssmision ammended files and can confirm live wallpapers are working...
Best Regards,

Yes thats right, and Nathan has done some tweaking but given full credit where it was due. It is currently under Donators only testing (but is looking good from comments) and will probably be released as an option to the public in VillainRom 5.3
Edit: for the record the only downsides seem to be you lose full screen weather animations and you can't see thumbnails in the 3D gallery

Stickman89 said:
Actually nprussel hasn't done anything, zenulator & mssmision are the ones who have gotten live wallpaper's working on the hero CDMA which also works for the GSM with no additional changes.
I have already built a 2.1 sense rom with zenulator & mssmision ammended files and can confirm live wallpapers are working...
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I'm not sure what your problem is, but I thought I'd at least make an effort to clear the air.
First of all, on topic - here are the facts:
- I did get Live Wallpapers working without the help of anyone. They were working before the guys over at CDMA fixed them. They were very slow though, causing huge slowdowns of Rosie & were barely functional.
- I opted to use someone else's openGL fix, as it proved to be far quicker and more stable than my own. Here's the quote from the VillainROM donator's forum:
"Thanks to MagnusRagnarok, jcase, zifnab & flipzmode over on the CDMA forums, the culprit (ie - reason Live Wallpapers weren't working with Sense UI) has been fixed and is within this file. "
See... there's no mention of it being my own work.
Slightly off topic now, but it needs saying.
Stickman,
I am getting sick to death of reading your snot-nosed comments about me. I have worked hard - harder than most to make the best 2.1 Sense UI ROM possible for the Hero; and I've done it persistently for the past three months.
I've put in an easy 20+ hours PER WEEK into developing since I began. If you've followed my progress, you'll know that I am always on the ball with fixes, and I always try to credit people where credit is due. The fact that I missed you from my credits when I ported your theme over to 2.1 was unfortunate, but hardly an absolute 'end of the world' disaster.
My advice to you would be:
Get over yourself...relax and drop the grudge you have against me. It's only making you look stupid; and I can tell that's something that you are not.
Now - can we forget about it and move on?
If you're the type that needs to get the last word in, then get the last word in. I really don't care. Just say what you need to say and then move on.
Thanks.

More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.

nprussell said:
More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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Then and only then would I consider to use LWP

Nice
nprussell said:
More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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nprusell, thats great news I´m using your rom as my everyday rom and it´s great .. keep up the god work. Sad to see go over to the Desire team

I didn't actually state anywhere that you have not given credits to whom ever concerned, I am just saying that the work originated from zenulator and mssmision...
I would just like to point out the people you have mentioned have adapted their fixes and changes against mssmision's work, although not mentioned.
I do appreciate the fact that we are all joining together to further increase functionality and stability in any of the 2.1 builds developed...
No point jumping in and accusing me of the like, and c'mon that comment was hardly snotty, I used to own a HTC Kaiser and zenulator and mssmision were a big part of the vogue community who brought the vogue/kaiser to life again...
I really don't have any issue's with you at all, I apologise if it seems that way...
#edit: Also the unnecessary comments you made really isn't going to help clear anything if that is your intention, I understand you have put it in a lot of work as have most developers here at xda which is applauded and appreciated by your followers. My comment above still stands, I really don't have any issues with you at all.

I fully agree Stickman.

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More on topic now - I'm currently working on trying to get the LW to work in conjunction with the HTC Weather animations.
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while you're at it, throw that flipclock in pretty please

t24ever said:
nprusell, thats great news I´m using your rom as my everyday rom and it´s great .. keep up the god work. Sad to see go over to the Desire team
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Glad I bought a Desire

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Glad I bought a Desire
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Hehehhe i have to upgrade my Hero

nprussel 4 prez!
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Hehehhe i have to upgrade my Hero
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yeah. Me too. Strange world where nprussel gets a new phone and I feel compelled to do the same.... You'd think that the common sense on sites as these or the quality of support provided by manufacturers would influence my choice of phone...
But no, it is a man like nprussel that makes me consider buying the legend.....
That is a compliment! But strange it is.....

An open request...

Hello all.
I'm on the hunt for a ROM. A very specific kind of ROM. Free from any HTC crap, no Sense, no TouchFlo, no Manilla. No Add-ons from the chefs. No edited icons laced with electric blue (Energy ROMs, I'm looking at you).
I found one, a ROM so perfect I was almost in shock, by Da_G. It's a 6.5.3.3 ROM, and it's exactly what I wanted. Almost. I can' get MMS support. Tried ArcSoft, didn't work. Posted a thread asking for help, didn't help me. GPS support is awfully slow, as well. No work has been done on it in a few months, and there's a few bugs as well. PMs offering cash for a few simple fixes have gone unanswered, so I'm here, asking for something very, very specific.
If there's a chef amongst you, who could take whatever the latest and greatest 6.5.5 build is, toss in the needed support for the hardware (camera, ambient light sensor, wifi, PTT button, etc), and that's it. No icon editing, no dumping all the start menu shortcuts into folders (I hate having to undo that), no taskbar skinning (or any skinning for that matter).
And not to knock on the ROMs already posted. The Leo Firestorm is one of my favorites, and the Energy ones have tones of options, but after I found Da_G's first one, it became obvious that's what I wanted.
If anyone out there feels like throwing me a bone, I'm sure I'm not the only one who use it.
Thanks all for your time, keep up the good work - I'll keep downloading it.
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hope you can find your perfect rom, but i will try this WM6.5_28205 【Da_G Clean ROM】

I was also tempted by Da_G Rom but did not flash it as I figured out that there would need some tweaking for a TP2 7373, and that it seems tha Da_G would not have time for a dayly support.
An alternative is Cosmik Debris, WM6.1, no manila, solid, very fast, excellent support from the developper, he even customizes application he does not need when other users ask. After flashing it I have realized that the upgrade from WM6.1 to 6.5 was not worth it, 6.5 is too slow with regards to 6.1.
The Rom thread is in my signature.

AyanamiZer00 said:
Hello all.
I'm on the hunt for a ROM. A very specific kind of ROM. Free from any HTC crap, no Sense, no TouchFlo, no Manilla. No Add-ons from the chefs.
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have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674739
no mms support, but are you sure you need one? i mean come on, who does not have an email these days, and why not attach a picture to an email instead of an mms? traffic-wise it's the same amount of data anyhow.
as far as the latest build is concerned, you will simply NOT find a bug-free version, but the one i'm offering is pretty much stable, as it is based on official HTC rom.

AyanamiZer00 said:
Hello all.
No edited icons laced with electric blue (Energy ROMs, I'm looking at you).
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No need to put down someone else's work if you don't like it. People like you (that like bare bones ROMs) are few and far between. If you like a ROM like that, then just build yourself a ROM.. or use the perfect example posted above by Da_G.

Here ya go. Used to roll my own ROMs with various kitchens on my hermes. Doesn't take too long to learn, should be able to get exactly what you want out of it to boot.

I guess I should clarify a little bit.
First off, I'm not trying to talk down the Energy ROMs. You do great work with them, your customization just isn't my thing. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend.
Yeah, I know nothing is going to be bug free. There's just a couple odd ones that I can't seem to really work around - the accelerometer doesn't work in the texting app, and doesn't work well in general. =(
And yeah, I'm actually kind of big on MMS. I've only got one friend (my roommate actually) that has a smartphone, and can get email. I used to swap pictures all the time.
@ Aziraphale
I might try yours, but it takes a while to get all the settings back to normal, all my ringtones back on, all the stock pictures/wallpapers out, email set back up, etc. At some point I'll give it a shot.
@ Toleraen
I'll take a look through the threads you sent me to, but I somehow feel that building a ROM is waaaay over my head. Who knows though, so I won't give up before I try.
Thanks for the input everyone. I'd have replied sooner, but had to leave for some family business.
(And I do realize I'm in the minority for a bare-bones ROM. I'm always in the minority for what I want with my devices, it seems.)