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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

Sms Chat

Hello, does anybody know if there i a way to turn off the sms chat. I like to read and delete my text messages but the diamond seems to want to keep them. Help

pcb007 said:
Hello, does anybody know if there i a way to turn off the sms chat. I like to read and delete my text messages but the diamond seems to want to keep them. Help
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You can turn it off with Diamond Advanced Config or just set the correct value in the registry (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2339502#post2339502)

Thanks for that, i did do a search but obviously it was not good enough.

cannot reply to unread sms!

Hi,
I had my diamond fixed with HTC since the device would not be able to connect to the network anymore. Since I have it back, I cannot reply to unread SMS anymore like I used to:
I get an SMS, and click on the messages-line in my today-screen (touchflo is off), or on the notifyer. It opens the SMS-thread and displays the new SMS with a light-blue background. If I want to answer by clicking into the text-field, the cursor wont appear and I cannot write. In order to reply to the SMS, I have to _ALWAYS_ first close the message app again, re-open it and then it works, after the unread mark is cleared and there is no blue background anymore behind my latest SMS... any idea what to do and how to get back to the old way where I was able to reply immediately?
thanks

any idea on this?

Did you find a solution to this problem?
I am dealing with the same issue and it is quite annoying!

Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM

sunflower33 said:
Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM
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I think I'm having the similar problem - see my post>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580167

Solution
Hey,
i had the same problem and by chance found a workaround.
When opening an unread SMS you have to:
FIRST: Open the keypad / keyboard
SECOND: Tab the text/reply field
This way the cursor should appear and you should be able to type your answer.
Hope, this helps.
Regards,
joker

Text message resend..? Help?

Is there any cab file out there for the AT&T tilt that would allow a message that can't be sent, due to no service, or receiving another text at the same time, ect... Is there any cab that would allow me a message resend button as opposed to having to open the drafts, open the text, send the text, open back up the inbox...?
If this doesn't exist, can anyone capable of writing code create me this hack? It would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!

windows mobile 6.1 + "threaded" text messaging
if you are using a WinMo 6.1 ROM, threaded text messaging is enabled by default (if not enabled, use KaiserTweak to enable threaded messaging).
i clearly remember (because it has happened with me TWICE) that the threaded messaging view will display any unsent messages (within the thread) in RED color and will provide a clickable link labeled "Try again"...the function of the link is self explanatory
the combination of events you are talking about (sending a message exactly when receiving a message and/or a phone call) is RARE but it DOES happen...fortunately, i don't mind using the threaded messaging view and i get the resend link (in case of transmission failure for whatever reason) as a bonus
hope this helps...good luck!

It's not necessiarily rare to me as I text all the time, haha. I know what you're talking about, but I don't like threaded text messaging. It becomes slow and sluggish after a while. I highly appreciate the suggestion though!
Does anybody know of a program that would allow this tweak?

Quite some time since I used Arcsoft but didnt they have a resend feature (could be some of the later ed.)? Or am I wrong and it was a feature on 6.1? If it was on 6.1 you could still use it for just that by switching off treaded view.

I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?

yeahmanitsme said:
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
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Ok hold on, will make a cab for you.

Enjoy !
Raiisak`s En/Disable Treaded SMS

Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!

yeahmanitsme said:
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Reason I made the cab was to simply add on/off the treaded sms whitout making any change to the notification status for you by simply create this DWORD in youre reg:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:00000000
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Arcsoft_MMS 5_0_31_81 w/ treaded ON had the function to ask if you wanted to resend sms/mms if failed. Try to install that and run my cab and see if the red text comes up comes if the sms fails to send. Chance are that this will solve much of youre problem, other than that I would recomend to try another radio if you have severe signal issues

Sorry for the stupid question but um when you say new radio... You mean....?

If you use custom rom they come whit variouse radio, not always will the given radio work smoothly in youre country and phone. I would read up on this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 and also the OP of the used rom to see if there is any recomended radio for youre phone or country. If none found I would ask in that tread. GL

Is there any way to auto resend a failed message? either for a certain time or an X amount of resends?. My phone constantly goes in and out of service. I dont want to have to keep my phone in my hand waiting for service to kick in then resend.