Rhodium: education in flashing for newbie - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

hi guys,
i recently got a tp2 t7373. this is my 1st winmo phone. i was googling for apps and i came across this forum. i think that you do very good work at developing and fixing what microsoft can't.
i leave in Greece (Europe). My device has the 6.1 rom with greek language.
i want to flash a new 6.5 rom with english.
I 've search a lot about the tp2 (hspl, flashing, custum roms, etc..), but i found very little info on the device i got (t7373).
So my questions are:
- should i wait and see if htc Greece release a 6.5 rom so i don't void my warranty,yet.
- witch version of HardSPL should i install?
- can i relock my device in order not to void my warranty, in case of hardware problems in the future? if yes, how?
- is there another codename for my phone, witch i'm not aware of?
- i want to flash a stable, reliable and fast rom of 6.5 winmo. witch roms do i look for my phone?
- can i install separately the version of tf3d of my choice? does this need a new sort of flashing?
- can i flash, after i hspl my phone, roms witch are ment for other devices?
- is there any chance of bricking my phone after hspl by flashing?
- witch is the safest way to flash?
- is there anything else, in your opinion, i should know before flashing?
thanx in advance.
alex

- should i wait and see if htc Greece release a 6.5 rom so i don't void my warranty,yet.
you might wait a LONG time...
- witch version of HardSPL should i install?
the latest, if your device is supported. there are different TP2 models... look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
- can i relock my device in order not to void my warranty, in case of hardware problems in the future? if yes, how?
yes, provided a stock ROM is made available. refer to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
- is there another codename for my phone, witch i'm not aware of?
depends on where and from whom you purchased it.
- i want to flash a stable, reliable and fast rom of 6.5 winmo. witch roms do i look for my phone?
there's a database thread, search and have a look. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tBctimfdK9NM5awAG-Xnwpw&single=true&gid=0&output=html
- can i install separately the version of tf3d of my choice? does this need a new sort of flashing?
too much of a n00b to know.
- can i flash, after i hspl my phone, roms witch are ment for other devices?
sometimes, but i'd flash for YOUR device versus risking it.
- is there any chance of bricking my phone after hspl by flashing?
always. it's slight, but the answer is yes.
- witch is the safest way to flash?
there's a thread about flashing for n00bs. look at that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
- is there anything else, in your opinion, i should know before flashing?
yes, read all the threads about HardSPL, SIM unlocking (pay for it, it's worth it) and CAREFULLY review the cook's instructions before flashing the ROM of your preference.
also, use the search. http://tinyurl.com/yko3w26
tGo

If you are worried about warranty, then you shouldnt flash! And yes if you dont have stock ROM handy dont flash.

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HTC 3600 and Dopod WM6

did someone tried the dopod wm6 rom on an HTC 3600?
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I did.
Works very well for me. No bug at all. I'm happy with it.
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
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gerazzo said:
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
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I've upgraded my P3600 to WM6 (Australian ROM)
GPS - First detection is slow IMHO. After that it runs great.
Changes in speed - No changes so far I have noticed, in other words it still runs fast
Battery life - Is great depending on your usage. Just disable your infrared. That alone makes a lot of difference.
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
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gerazzo said:
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
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Does it matter where I got it from?.. Or do you want to know where you can get it?..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42337174/D810_ANZ_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
I do not know what and if there is a difference is between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM.
I just know that the ROM I used didn't have customized DOPOD screenlogo's/programs etc installed AND that I have only one issue since running this ROM but I think it's WM6 related:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318013
All the OFFICIAL ROMs providing wm6 for trinity, so far, are from Dopod, including the rapidshare link above.
This is why it's called: 'D810' and not HTC P3600 in the link.
You may notice very few Dopod's customization, but it's still a ROM from Dopod, you can see, for instance, some Dopod's ringtones in the alarms and ring lists.
As far as the localized operator settings are concerned, I can't tell, since I did not install their extended ROM, I don't have any either, except for the ring tones I just mentioned before.
Regarding the new ROM performances, I think it has increased a lot from the previous April wm5 release from HTC: faster, better look etc.
The GPS is a little bit faster, but not much faster, but I think it has more to do with the new radio.
For example I could not get any fix with the 1.46.00.01 one from SEA. But it works quite well with the 1.46.20.01, from ANZ.
The most impressive improvement is the wifi connexion, which is stable, and fast. (it was a disaster with previous radios, especially the 1.38.x series.
Just to make myself more clear:
1)
I know all the trinity ROMs are made by HTC. What I meant is not 'made by Dopod' but, branded, designed for Dopod.
2)
I have read here before that wifi has nothing to do with radio but just with the ROM itself. I don't know, but what I can tell is that, the previous wm5 plus 1.38/1.41 radio series had always given me poor wifi performance.
But wm6 with 1.46. series is perfect in terms of wifi perfs.
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
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gerazzo said:
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
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No, there are no garantees.
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
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I use the Australian ROM and all the features of my P3600 work.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks
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Since there are no garantees there is a choice to be made. The P3600 is still unique in his features. It's the ONLY Window Mobile based PDA with 3G enabled and GPS onboard.
And what you do want to consider is that even if HTC releases a WM6 for Europe, there are no garantees that the ROM won't have any flauds.
Exactly, there is never 100% garantee to be fully satisfied and get no default or bug. This is why the reseller is there to offer you a one year garantee, so if you fancy the specs of the device go for it.
I don't want to start any debate about which programmers have more skills and more time to do proper job.
Individual ROM cooks are amazing and none of us will ever reach their skill levels, and they do it for free, just for the pleasure of sharing with us, so we owe them the greatest respect for that.
But obviously , after having tried both, I confirm that there are less conflicts and bugs in the official ROM than in the cooked ones.
Also because they take more risks by adapting applications that where not designed for the device (ex: touchflo and kaiser interfaces in trinity)
But I do believe that new cooked ROM from now on will be far more reliable than they were in before (wm6 ones), mainly because they now have a stable basis (the official dopod release) to make their own developments on.
So the difference might be slighter and slighter in those respects.
Explicit instructions for a dummy
Does this ROM update go as easy as the GPS unlock update?
I've done ROM updates that made you go through several activities and I just screw them up.
I'm looking for the simple version.
Jerry
Tried this and no luck
I have an HTC branded and unlocked P3600
I got this error:
Error 294 - Invalid Vendor ID
This update utility cannot be used for your PDA Phone.
Ideas?
No, it is not as easy as the GPS update ROM, and cannot be compare as you just experienced it because:
- it's not a HTC release, it's a DOPOD release, aiming at Dopod D810 clients, from South-east Asia and Australia-New-zealand.
- the ROM is heavy protected by its SPL to not install onto other CID devices.
- The previous Hard-spl crack doesn't work anymore and if you try to install it: luckily u'll get an error it will refuse to install, unluckily, it will get stuck in the middle of the install and you might even brick your device.
That's why you could not manage to install it. There are plenty of topics over this issue on this forum, you can try one of those workarounds, but take all responsibility if something unlucky happens during the upgrade process.
By the way: SIM unlocked, doesn't mean CID unlock, you can install any SIM card you want from any provider, but your phone's CID still belong to a language, a geographical area, and a manufacturer, which is HTC, not DOPOD ;-)
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
pinocchios said:
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
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no chance without spl bla bla stuff?
i just want to excute and install :-(
that is it..
read the link I gave you. it is very simple.
copy this file to your pocketpc and execute it! works in 10seconds..
I clearly should do more reading before attempting this
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
I told you so...
1)
Don't think it's easy and simple, every one got different skills and experience and you don't help the noobies by saying "flashing a SPL protected ROM is 'easy and simple, just use your brain'...
Better being warned of the worst, if you want to do your best...
2)
There is a sticky thread in this forum about 'how to unbrick or unstuck you phone after having failed to flash the Dopod's ROM.
Read it CAREFULLY and try it out.
3)
Next time you try, use Olibro SPL or, more simple and safe for beginners, try to flash a ROM without SPL/IPL.
hitekfun said:
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
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can you give more info on where you're stuck? (what is shown on bootloader screen). i'm assuming you've tried a soft reset to exit bootloader...
it's not that hard to flash a rom, the official dopod wm6 included. follow the guide here which will allow you to flash it without the new spl. it's still recommended to flash hard spl before a ROM flash to be safe.

How to choose a ROM and how to flash?

Hello!
Im a newbie an HTC phones
I waiting for my Touch HD, and im wondering what rom i should choose to get the newest one.
And what application to i flash it with?
Im from sweden.
What to the different Roms do?
theFloo said:
Hello!
Im a newbie an HTC phones
I waiting for my Touch HD, and im wondering what rom i should choose to get the newest one.
And what application to i flash it with?
Im from sweden.
What to the different Roms do?
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Read WIKI, should answer all your questions
Search & use the Wiki
First, since you're a noob, no problem asking. But in the future, please use the search function and use the Blackstone Wiki pages to find answers before posting.
XDA Wiki - Blackstone Page -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
1) SPL
1a) To flash a rom from htc, just follow htc's instructions for installing the rom
1b) To flash a custom rom, you must use a custom SPL (or bootloader) which bypasses htc's built-in security check and allows for custom rom flashing.
1b1) USPL - This is a temporary spl which doesn't stay with the device. Find it here
1b2) HSPL - This is a permanent solution and allows for flashing custom roms many times and doesn't go away after flashing or hard resetting. Find it here
*Note: Please remember to use the donate button to show your appreciation to the software authors for allowing you this functionality
2) Custom ROMs
2a) List of custom roms here. Which cooked rom you use is up to you. On other devices, different cooked roms can offer different functionality and looks. On the HD however, I'm seeing cooked roms simply keeping up with new releases of WinMo and performance enhancements. I use Dutty's rom simply because he's an experienced rom cook and I've used his things on other devices, but you should read what each rom offers and decide for yourself.
Most importantly, HAVE FUN!!
Cheers! --Jesse
SomethingWicked said:
First, since you're a noob, no problem asking. But in the future, please use the search function and use the Blackstone Wiki pages to find answers before posting.
XDA Wiki - Blackstone Page -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
1) SPL
1a) To flash a rom from htc, just follow htc's instructions for installing the rom
1b) To flash a custom rom, you must use a custom SPL (or bootloader) which bypasses htc's built-in security check and allows for custom rom flashing.
1b1) USPL - This is a temporary spl which doesn't stay with the device. Find it here
1b2) HSPL - This is a permanent solution and allows for flashing custom roms many times and doesn't go away after flashing or hard resetting. Find it here
*Note: Please remember to use the donate button to show your appreciation to the software authors for allowing you this functionality
2) Custom ROMs
2a) List of custom roms here. Which cooked rom you use is up to you. On other devices, different cooked roms can offer different functionality and looks. On the HD however, I'm seeing cooked roms simply keeping up with new releases of WinMo and performance enhancements. I use Dutty's rom simply because he's an experienced rom cook and I've used his things on other devices, but you should read what each rom offers and decide for yourself.
Most importantly, HAVE FUN!!
Cheers! --Jesse
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Well summarised!!!

Questions regarding Flashing/Dumping ROM on MDA Compact V

Hi, been looking through the various sections of ROM development forum, and have a couple of questions. I am new to this Windows based phones.
1) When I dump the ROM, does this Backup the ROM, radio and Protocol, or do you have to do them individually? Basically can I put the MDA Compact V back into its complete original state if I dont like the new ROMS?
2) Has anyone tried Flashing the Compact V, if so, any improvements?
Hoping some of you experts can help out a noob!
2) You need HARDSPL installed. Then you can flash any topaz rom on it. Trust me, you don't want to go back to the t-mobile rom.
Let us know how you get on, i'm thinking of doing the same thing
I dumped my rom from the mda compact v but I havent put it back together as nbh yet. Downloading the topaz kitchen to do so.
It is always a good idea to dump your rom before flashing a new one. If your phone develops a fault t-mobile will not accept responsibility if there is a custom rom on there and they will likely tell you that your warranty has been invalidated. Although the t-mobile rom is awful is always good to have it backup up just in case of the worst.
Saying that I didnt backup the radio though and I updated that to the latest last week
EDIT: To answer the question yes there are improvements with running custom roms. I have not moved to 6.5 yet as I have a heavily customised uDK 6.1 rom and cannot be bothered to move to 6.5 and do all the customisations again. There 6.5 rom appear to be slightly buggier from what I read but it does have its advantages over 6.1.
Backup the t-mobile rom and move to the custom roms just make sure you follow the instructions carefully
Thanks for the replys.
Pauloke: I have backed up the ROM (parts.raw) and I have also got the kitchen, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Worst case, I have a copy anyway. The kitchen instructions get quite techy very quickly and they soon lose me. Is there any way of getting a copy of the shipped ROM online?
Cheers
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Thanks for the replys.
Pauloke: I have backed up the ROM (parts.raw) and I have also got the kitchen, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Worst case, I have a copy anyway. The kitchen instructions get quite techy very quickly and they soon lose me. Is there any way of getting a copy of the shipped ROM online?
Cheers
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One way is to check the website of your provider. Sometimes you find the ROM (as an update) there.
Another way is to check the WIKI TOPAZ cooked ROMs page. By chance you find your ROM there.
Ohh man i must be rly stupid, why i cant figure out how the @#% i can dump my rom :S This dumprom tool is supposed to extract an already backed up rom right? i'm really confused :/

HTC Official ROM - No FM Radio

I have just installed the new HTC ROM (1.19.401.1) over my original Vodafone ROM, but have noticed that for some reason I no longer have an FM Radio. I used to use it quite a bit on the Vodafone ROM, so any ideas why its missing on the official HTC ROM and more importantly, how do I get it back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356
or install EnergyRom Genesis (see my sig), the ROM is much better than stock and the radio app is already installed. The standard version is extremely stable, with the added bonus of WinMo 6.5, you won't look back!
Just a note of caution. You would have to install Hard SPL on your phone to install/flash any custom ROM. Which would void the warranty of your device.
Almost all Custom ROMs that are released here on XDA have FM Radio installed in them. So you can try any ROM.
But you are someone who is not aware of how ROM Flashing works... please take time to read through the stickys first before going ahead with it.
Its DEFINITELY not like installing a CAB.
Good luck.
Thanks for that. You are correct that I am new to flashing ROM's - although I have been using HTC devices for sometime now - but seeing as Vodafone have been so unco-operative when it comes to updating their ROM and also insisting on their horrible Red theme, then I figured I'd give it a shot.
I suppose worse can scenario would be if the phone ever needed to go back for repair, I could also ensure that the latest version of their ROM was installed.
Question answered.
Please search and read the sticky posts before starting a new thread. You'll find most common questions are answered somewhere .
Thanks
Dave

AT&T Tilt2 custom ROM risks

Investigating replacing ROM on my tilt2 with a custom 6.5.1 ROM and have several questions.
Question#1 What are the risks to performing this?
Question #2 How do I backup the entire phone so I can restore it like it was when I opened out of the box from AT&T? (even after a hard SPL)
Question #3 If I need to return the unit for any reason back to AT&T, would I be able to do this after flashing the ROM and performing hard SPL ? Or will they detect this has been done and deny me?
Thanks
I'll try to answer the best I can. Anyone please chime in...
A1) Primary risk is permanently messing up your phone if you don't perform the HardSPL correctly! Other than that, every other risk is minor when you're actually flashing the ROM becuase it seems to me like its close to impossible to brick your phone with HardSPL.
A2) There is no REAL way to backup your entire ROM like you can in Android (Nandroid backups). However, there's always the stock AT&T ROM that you can flash back and than use programs such as Microsoft MyPhone to backup and restore your personal data.
A3) You can Relock your phone using the relocker. This is available in one of the stickys...probably the one with the HardSPL.
Anymore questions, please ask!
yeah
I think rvashi pretty much nailed it all, however if you ever do have to revert to stock make sure to read all the info! You'll need to revert to stock ROM and Radio. I've never done it on my Rhodium but on my Raphael it was quite easy... I assume its no different on Rhodium!
Just read the stickies and check out the wiki! I made sure I'd read through the procedure thoroughly prior to starting and had no issues! Of course I've been flashing ROMs starting with the Kaiser and not much has changed from that device procedure wise!
Not all roms include radios. Ive never flashed a radio yet, on my kaiser or my tilt 2, but it sounds just as easy as loading the roms.
Here, i have a question to ask. Whats the difference between a rom that lists WWE and one that doesnt?
carhigh said:
Whats the difference between a rom that lists WWE and one that doesnt?
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WWE is short for 'World Wide English' as far as I know.
carhigh said:
whats the difference between a rom that lists wwe and one that doesnt?
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+1 .
qinstaller said:
+1 .
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WWE means that the language of the phone will be english, if you install a ROM with something else like FRA then the phone will be in that language, in this case french.

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