HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5 - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
So I am moving here from Raphael Section and I have a doubt that I could not clear by searching through Rhodium and Topaz forums.
What is the difference between Manila 2.1 and Manila 2.5 or as HTC wants us to call it, HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5?
Is the home screen weather (the one with full screen clouds, snow etc.. on a full screen layer) available in both?
Thanks
I'd also like to know this as I've used 2.5 and not overly keen on all the changes.
yes, both have weather animation on the home screen. 2.5 has more detailed animation but is slower, 2.1 animation runs a lot smoother i found.
thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
Yea I've tested some various builds before starting to cook my own and I like the 2.1 version. It feels like normal Manila but with the animated homescreen which is a nice touch. Manila is MUCH better on a WVGA phone vs the Raphael's VGA screen (too cramped).
My favorite build was Dutty's and had a nice simple black background. I like things simple.
Manila isn't bad, but I HATE how EVERY part of the screen is clickable and takes you to an app; especially the HUGE clock. I always end up launching apps I don't want. I guess Titanium is the same way but it has a tendency to scroll before actually clicking, so there are less app launches.
That plus it adds like 60mb to a rom (wtf).
arkavat said:
thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
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Good info dude.
So these all are your experiment or any HTC source?
I had just posted one similar question, So Now I will point that to this thread.
Thanks.
HTC HD MIRI V 13.0 No weather wallpapaer animation at all but weather demo is their nay suggestions?
hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
LukeTurner93 said:
hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
fluke said:
Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
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ah thank you
I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
PMoto said:
I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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Yes, with manila 2.5 you can choose between 2 options:
Weather Wallpaper
Animated Wallpaper
The weather wallpaper lets you choose any wallpaper and the animated weather will work with it, in the whole screeen, bealtifull but slows the Topaz to a crawl.
The animated wallpaper just do a kind of glow bottom to top, behind the clock and links of the first screen, with whatever picture you choose.
Thanks for that info.
That's what I need - weather wallpaper in 2.1 Manila.
I'm so desperate....
guys, thanks for the summary
how to upgrade to Sense 2.5 ? i have stock HTC Rom with WinMo 6.5 running on Diamond2
I'm running Sense 2.5 on my Diamond and it runs like a charm!
Using this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678
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looking for sense 2.1 rom from desire z and desire hd.... any idea
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Touchflo Manila 2D Digital Flip clock that actually flips?
I've been downloading a lot of different themes and even just the clock itself but none of them seem to have a real flip. They just tick like regular digital watches. Is there a flip clock that works on manila 2D (from Hyper Dragon IV IOLITE) that actually has a 3D flip when the minutes tick?
Hi!!! not sure but i think that flip-clock is only for TFmanilla 3d... But better to wait for someone elses response...
It's not possible to have flipping clocks in TF2D.
As far as i know currently only the TF3D got those animation effect
Thanks all! It took me some time to realise that Touchflo has a 2D and 3D form. I guess i just have to wait for a ported TF3D for the pretty clock.
CyberSniper said: Thanks all! It took me some time to realise that Touchflo has a 2D and 3D form. I guess i just have to wait for a ported TF3D for the pretty clock. Click to expand... Click to collapse TF3D has already been ported, have a search The issue still stands with TF3D and standby due to drivers though but there are work arounds.
HTC Sense: Can it be changed?
Searched (here and google) but couldn't find an answer. If it has already been posted, I apologise. I just got my HTC Hero and I'm adjusting quite well from the change from WM6 to Android (used to have the HTC Touch Pro, aka the Raphael I think) but I was wondering whether HTC sense on the Hero interface can be changed (e.g. clock, colours) or if there are skins available, like there were for WM. Just to be clear, I know there are loads of apps out there (OpenHome, aHome etc) to change the normal interface, but they all seem to be focused on the Hero without the Sense interface. I want the Sense interface, but would like to change the analogue clock, the colours etc. Thanks in advance!
No you can't really do that at the moment. But there are several widgets for clock, you can change the background and the lock screen. Or you can pu any widget that you want instead of HTC's
haven't seen those either, not for Sense anyway, do you maybe have links/names of those apps for me? would really appreciate it! thanks!
Photo Clock is a good one. It has about 10 different faces, including 2 or 3 where you can choose a photo or your own pic as the base background for the clock. Just type clock into the market... All clock widgets for android can be used "for sense" - you just dump the HTC Clock widget and load one from the Android Widgets section. That goes for all android widgets. I'm assuming you know there are 13 different clocks on the HTC Clock widget for Hero? Daisy
No, I didn't know that, I've only had it a couple of days and did look around on the phone for ways to change it, but I don't seem to be able to find it (I realise I'm sounding like a complete noob now, but oh well). The Photo Clock app sounds good as well, will have a look at that if (after someone has been so kind as to help me locate the different styles for the standard app) I don't like them. Thanks for helping me out with this! edit: I just found it! power of posting I guess It was under HTC-widget and I'd only been looking under Android-widget...Now I think about it, not too smart...
So you're sorted? Its not that obvious tho I have to say, as the options for screen widgets only come up when you choose them, so unless you dump one then reapply, you don't see them. On all HTC widgets there's a little number (1/12) at the bottom saying how many options for views there are for that widget - some have loads, others only 1. Also check out the SCENES - I only just got round to seeing those - they are like template arrangements of screen widgets that you can switch to and fro between, and also gives the option to save different custom arrangements. I have one with links to all my porn and a photoframe with naked men that I have to quickly turn off and swap for the business one with the classy blue world wallpaper in case the hubby sees.... (kidding...) They look seriously useful but I've not had a full mess with them yet. It was VERY simple to pop back to my own eclectic Scene set up tho Daisy - Lovin the SenseUi
Do Any TF3D2 (Manilla 2.5) Roms work in Landscape?
Ive been messing around, got one rom that works partially in landscape although glitches on a few imput fields. The NRG roms seem most stable, but only the ones with original TF3D Anyone have any thoughts on a good rom that I will be able to do the most with landscape wise? Basically just imput fields, texting, etc.
I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music.
Bxsteez said: I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music. Click to expand... Click to collapse How about for texting and web browsing? I would think those are separate then from the Manilla UI. What about the ROMS that have SENSE UI? Is that just a "skin" or will the UI work in landscape with the similar feel of Manilla?
The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera.
Bxsteez said: The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera. Click to expand... Click to collapse Ok thanks! I really like the weather clock and the way the email feels in manilla 2.5.
NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock
I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)? In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen. I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful. Thanks
chrisrj28 said: NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock Click to expand... Click to collapse yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device
scdoyle said: I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)? In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen. I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful. Thanks Click to expand... Click to collapse The manila files and scripts just don't have that functionality. I do not think the LEO has landscape. Give it time.. Remember the original manila didn't really have a landscape either.
llllllllll said: yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device Click to expand... Click to collapse I think it does.... My new manila rom does that.
Bxsteez said: I think it does.... My new manila rom does that. Click to expand... Click to collapse yeah, only the 2.5 does.. the reg photon has the same weather clock i have now
Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM. http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png
Bxsteez said: Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM. http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png Click to expand... Click to collapse Im downloading Photon as we speak. If this works, ill be thrilled.. if only I could change the mail tab icon to the envelopes instead of the ugly mailbox and get the whole email view like on 2.5 If I do use a manilla 2.5 rom, is their landscape support in apps or when forming emails?
In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
chrisrj28 said: In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved. Click to expand... Click to collapse awesome! Thanks man. So essentially I can use photon with manilla 2.5 - and just turn on rotate for email/text/internet? Only things that use manilla would be the email/text previews and the home screen right?
Yeah you can go with Leo and have the added features of 2.5 and just select what programs you want to rotate other than Manilla.
I still have a problem with text entry in facebook - The keyboard doesnt do anything but shake the screen in landscape mode
Can't help you there as I am one of the few people in the world with no facebook
chrisrj28 said: In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved. Click to expand... Click to collapse Is that gyrator? It can be installed in any ROM! Any yes Manila 2.5 does not work in landscape, and it has been discussed zilliion times....
This guy and his ROM (for SE Xperia) has landscape support for Manila 2.5 : http://htcpedia.com/rotastrains_manila2_5_landcape/soft/sony-x1-rom.html Dont know how he did it, but it can be done. Ive seen nothing lie this for the Touch Pro 2.
Weather Animation
i have a t-mobile htc touch pro 2, and i would like to have the animated weather on my home page, but i am not sure how to do so. would i need to flash sense 2.1 or sense 2.5 on my phone? also, where would i be able to located the ROM for Sense 2.1 or 2.5? and would it work if the my ROM version is 1.91.531.4 thanks so much for the help!
ROM 1.91 from TMOUS has included Sense 2.1, but it has just disabled front page weather animation (because it quite slows down whole Manila), I suggest you searching a bit how to enable it.
[Q] Sense Like Weather Clock
I have a question and a request at the same time...Can someone make a weather clock like the one in sense 2.1 for TF3D ? I am using WM 6.1 stock rom, my carriers latest version - cause I dont wanna lose warranty - and I am constantly switching between TF3D - with all kinds of mods and a sense 2.1 vga build by kimi_sae_ireba. It looks nice, but it's slow as hell...I mean really slow, but i like it cause of the animated weather clock...sacrificing performance for looks...Is there a possibility to make a weather clock for TF3D ? even a non-animated version would be nice, but an animated one would be perfect...so...what do you think ? I was thinking maybe isolate one tab - home from sense 2.1 and moving it to TF3D...I have no idea about developing apps, so I'm just saying stupid thoughts