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I have been using the Manilla Touch Flo 2D interface on my Tilt. When I first installed it (about a month ago) I absolutely loved it. I have installed several different themes, and it's pretty nice to look at.
However, I just can't stand the fact that it doesn't support landscape. Let's face it, the big attraction that lead most of us to purchase our Tilts (Kaisers, whatever) is the fact that it has a keyboard (or a tilting screen, which isn't possible without the keyboard slid out). So the fact that TF2D doesn't support landscare is extremely limiting.
Not to mention it's kind of buggy, and sluggish. But the lack of landscape support is really proving to be the deal breaker for me. I use my device in landscape mode more than portrait mode.
So what do you guys think is a good alternative for me? I used SPB Mobile Shell a few years ago on my PPC-6700 when mobile Shell was first released (I'm sure there is a new and better version of it out now, I used the very first version), and it was okay. How is it now? Or is there anything else?
I'm hoping to have something finger friendly, works in landscape, doesn't bog the device down (sluggish), and maybe even something that allows custom skins.
I see the hackers are working on porting TF3D, and it supports landscape. But it is early on in the porting process, and still sluggish and buggy. Is there a finished product yet that can compete?
Mobile shell has come leaps and bounds in the last 2 versions. When 2.0 came out it was almost a copy of HTC home. A lot of people prefer HTC home anyway. Before M2D I used mobile shell. As soon as T3D is functional I will be headed that direction. The graphics are amazing.
As i don't use the htc audio manager / picture viewer, manila tf2d makes no sense for me. I use Pointui with a custom made xml. works perfectly (well, nearly )
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
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landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
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Where is Manilla working with the tabs in landscape? Is it a skin I need to install or a new version of Manilla?
Try Throttle Launcher.
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Try Throttle Launcher.
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i 2nd that
mrphatpat said:
i 2nd that
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x3!
It looks cool
I'll have to recommend PointUI 1.51a. In my experience, it's the smoothest running interface, and it replaces the rubbish WM task bar & ugly settings menu system (if you tell it to).
It works great in landscape and allows easy access to many functions. It takes minimal configuring, and looks all right. Not very customisable though, so if you like changing themes & tweaking etc, it may not be your favourite.
rohithathie said:
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
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SaltyDawg said:
Where is Manilla working with the tabs in landscape? Is it a skin I need to install or a new version of Manilla?
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you really need to check it out, although I am still running V4 of PDAcornerUltimate after two weeks , it is a very stable rom, I have read that version 7 is out and is all so very fast and stable, well worth trying out...
(27 Oct 08) PDACornerUltimate.V7-20921|HTCCA D3D|M2D|New Improvements
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261
WAD for the win. By miles.
i used pointui for a while but the battery drain was unacceptable. if battery was not an issue pointui would be my choice. however, i use manila2d right now. spb pocket plus is useful and customizable, but doesnt have any flashy animations if that is what you are looking for.
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landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
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Yeah I checked that out but it is really only the home and weather tabs that actually work in landscape...
Unless he has a newer version that isn't on the first page of the main Manilla skins thread.
Wlofea said:
WAD for the win. By miles.
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i loved that, but it frooze too much
throttle launcher v9.6 should be out soon, i recommend using throttle launcher
Ive been messing around, got one rom that works partially in landscape although glitches on a few imput fields.
The NRG roms seem most stable, but only the ones with original TF3D
Anyone have any thoughts on a good rom that I will be able to do the most with landscape wise? Basically just imput fields, texting, etc.
I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music.
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I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music.
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How about for texting and web browsing? I would think those are separate then from the Manilla UI.
What about the ROMS that have SENSE UI? Is that just a "skin" or will the UI work in landscape with the similar feel of Manilla?
The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera.
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The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera.
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Ok thanks! I really like the weather clock and the way the email feels in manilla 2.5.
NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock
I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)?
In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen.
I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful.
Thanks
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NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock
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yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device
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I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)?
In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen.
I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful.
Thanks
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The manila files and scripts just don't have that functionality. I do not think the LEO has landscape. Give it time.. Remember the original manila didn't really have a landscape either.
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yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device
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I think it does.... My new manila rom does that.
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I think it does.... My new manila rom does that.
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yeah, only the 2.5 does.. the reg photon has the same weather clock i have now
Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM.
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png
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Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM.
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png
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Im downloading Photon as we speak. If this works, ill be thrilled.. if only I could change the mail tab icon to the envelopes instead of the ugly mailbox and get the whole email view like on 2.5
If I do use a manilla 2.5 rom, is their landscape support in apps or when forming emails?
In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
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In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
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awesome! Thanks man.
So essentially I can use photon with manilla 2.5 - and just turn on rotate for email/text/internet?
Only things that use manilla would be the email/text previews and the home screen right?
Yeah you can go with Leo and have the added features of 2.5 and just select what programs you want to rotate other than Manilla.
I still have a problem with text entry in facebook - The keyboard doesnt do anything but shake the screen in landscape mode
Can't help you there as I am one of the few people in the world with no facebook
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In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
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Is that gyrator? It can be installed in any ROM!
Any yes Manila 2.5 does not work in landscape, and it has been discussed zilliion times....
This guy and his ROM (for SE Xperia) has landscape support for Manila 2.5 : http://htcpedia.com/rotastrains_manila2_5_landcape/soft/sony-x1-rom.html
Dont know how he did it, but it can be done. Ive seen nothing lie this for the Touch Pro 2.
So I am moving here from Raphael Section and I have a doubt that I could not clear by searching through Rhodium and Topaz forums.
What is the difference between Manila 2.1 and Manila 2.5 or as HTC wants us to call it, HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5?
Is the home screen weather (the one with full screen clouds, snow etc.. on a full screen layer) available in both?
Thanks
I'd also like to know this as I've used 2.5 and not overly keen on all the changes.
yes, both have weather animation on the home screen. 2.5 has more detailed animation but is slower, 2.1 animation runs a lot smoother i found.
thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
Yea I've tested some various builds before starting to cook my own and I like the 2.1 version. It feels like normal Manila but with the animated homescreen which is a nice touch. Manila is MUCH better on a WVGA phone vs the Raphael's VGA screen (too cramped).
My favorite build was Dutty's and had a nice simple black background. I like things simple.
Manila isn't bad, but I HATE how EVERY part of the screen is clickable and takes you to an app; especially the HUGE clock. I always end up launching apps I don't want. I guess Titanium is the same way but it has a tendency to scroll before actually clicking, so there are less app launches.
That plus it adds like 60mb to a rom (wtf).
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thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
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Good info dude.
So these all are your experiment or any HTC source?
I had just posted one similar question, So Now I will point that to this thread.
Thanks.
HTC HD MIRI V 13.0 No weather wallpapaer animation at all but weather demo is their nay suggestions?
hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
fluke said:
Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
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ah thank you
I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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Yes, with manila 2.5 you can choose between 2 options:
Weather Wallpaper
Animated Wallpaper
The weather wallpaper lets you choose any wallpaper and the animated weather will work with it, in the whole screeen, bealtifull but slows the Topaz to a crawl.
The animated wallpaper just do a kind of glow bottom to top, behind the clock and links of the first screen, with whatever picture you choose.
Thanks for that info.
That's what I need - weather wallpaper in 2.1 Manila.
I'm so desperate....
guys, thanks for the summary
how to upgrade to Sense 2.5 ? i have stock HTC Rom with WinMo 6.5 running on Diamond2
I'm running Sense 2.5 on my Diamond and it runs like a charm!
Using this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678
Please search before you post!
This question has been answered before. Please search before you start a new thread.
-ThaDeanesta (The Topaz Moderator)
looking for sense 2.1 rom from desire z and desire hd.... any idea
Hi guys,
been working with superboy007 on my new Theme
the newest Senese are landscape capable and we wanted to enjoy the retractable manila slider on Portrait too.
Let's share it to the community
Will work only for Manila 2.5
two styles: original one and dusk style. Look @ the screenshots to choice the one you want !
Credit to Superboy007
Great release!
Is it planned also a manila 1922 full screen??
excellent! Thanks for sharing...
Greetings!
great mod . is it possible to only have the retractable slider on the main manilla tabs only and not the white screens?
for me it shows even in fullscreen mode..
Steve0007 said:
Hi guys,
been working with superboy007 on my new Theme for Manila 2.5 1922
2.5 1922 is landscape capable and we wanted to enjoy the retractable manila slider on Portrait too.
Let's share it to the community
Will work only for Manila 2.5 1922
No plan to prepare one for others manila versions now
Credit to Superboy007
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it works on manila 2.5 20113626.0 also
tanx
job well done here
it works good on VGA sprint diamond OMJ 2.5 2011 but when you scroll the slider pic is push up. here is the snap shot. can anyone got a fix for this.
Does this work on the 2.5.1921?
i have a HD2
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Does this work on the 2.5.1921?
i have a HD2
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yes should work. Try and let us know
Did somebody tried it on the 2012 vga-port?
Thank you, check my sig for the ROM I am currently using and it worked great.
@ steve , Can u share the Cab for Call history icon in home tab as u have.
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@ steve , Can u share the Cab for Call history icon in home tab as u have.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483
Lovely! Working fine on my SEX1 with FireStorm ROM by Agent_47 and Co0kies plugins.
Thx.
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works with 2.5.20121412.1 !
thx a lot....nice add-on!
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works with 2.5.20121412.1 !
thx a lot....nice add-on!
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WVGA or VGA?
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WVGA or VGA?
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Its designed for WVGA, but it is mostly operable on VGA. There's a pic a few posts ago that shows one of the issues. Another bug I found was after you would view a photo, the slider would be inaccessible.
Try it out though, it is able to be uninstalled via "Remove Programs".
Next time I install it, I'll post some pics.
All in all it is a great app/hack. Definitely helps cleanup your homescreen. Thanks Steve0007
Here are some screenshots of my VGA screen w/the mod.
I don't like how, in landscape, it moves the slider to the right side of the screen versus the far left where it was. As someone pointed out before, for VGA, the slider icon images are too high on the screen.
There is also a quick one second glitch in the slider bar (a white bar flashed on the screen for a sec.) when I open the keyboard on my Touch Pro and it turns to landscape.
I did not experience a loss of the slider after having viewed a photo through the Photos tab.
It is really cool looking though. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone makes a true VGA version.
+1 for a VGA version!
Love this mod!
How can I make mine transparant though?
Hi,
since i never type anything in portrait and i liked how the landscape of manila 2.1 looked, i was always hoping for a full landscape-only rom with the sense gui. and by full i mean no portrait available... or at least only through third party tweaking programs
the autorotate for music and album in sense is just not made for our hardware. its so slow and laggy. and when it has finally finished rotating the scrolling is also no fun. i hope the chefs disable this in their future roms.
Does anyone know a rom like this or are there any cooks who would produce something like this??
thx
hdizzel
hi
i been trying to get same thing hate portait mode, not sure manila
i tried searching n google landscape only but never any good, im thinking of goin back to 6.1 with screen rotate software, as 6.5 constantly goes portrait mode
hope someone can help
thanks
touchhdizzel said:
Hi,
since i never type anything in portrait and i liked how the landscape of manila 2.1 looked, i was always hoping for a full landscape-only rom with the sense gui. and by full i mean no portrait available... or at least only through third party tweaking programs
the autorotate for music and album in sense is just not made for our hardware. its so slow and laggy. and when it has finally finished rotating the scrolling is also no fun. i hope the chefs disable this in their future roms.
Does anyone know a rom like this or are there any cooks who would produce something like this??
thx
hdizzel
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I have installed EnergyROM_23518_BLACKSTONE_20.Jan.2010_StandardM2.5_MaxManila,so far werry happy, rotate works perfect and you can set it thrue maxmanila setup page
gradecak said:
I have installed EnergyROM_23518_BLACKSTONE_20.Jan.2010_StandardM2.5_MaxManila,so far werry happy, rotate works perfect and you can set it thrue maxmanila setup page
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maxmanila is a whole theme... and i dont want it to rotate. it should be landscape by default.
anyway thanks for the hint. will try.
take a rom with a landscape capable manilla (if 2.5 just the latest are for all tabs) and deactivate the autorotate function.
could have found that by search function:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575557
also have a look here for the gdi value...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447290
as it cant be changen in "windows-settings -> system -> screen" anymore as i just noticed
and it should be fine...
but u will get the slow music and picture tab as manilla 2.5 is designes this way there is no other landscape for - otherwise take 2.1
actually with the new manilla 2.5.1922 the landscape tabs for music and pictures are different from the ones in previous 2.5 settings. They kinda look like the manilla 2.1 ones.
Yeah, I just started a post looking for a cab or reg edit to disable the rotation on the music, documents and photos tabs on the new manila 2.5 1922 too, those reg keys are not the same as in the new manila.
Maybe, this could help?
greets
Markus