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I am totally sick of this crap. Microsoft should stick to PC's and stay out of pocket pc's as they can't develop one O/S that is stable.
Just when I thought I had a stable ROM, the thing displays all sorts of unwanted effects including:
1. Occasional Hard resetting of PPC (but not actually formatting the device; no...it installs duplicate programs and settings instead!!)
2. Soft Keys have a mind of their own (sometimes they appear as I defined their use, other times they appear according to its own desires!)
3. On occasion wifi doesn't work, but mostly it works perfectly.
4. Sometimes messaging application does not initiate (neither through soft keys activation or direct access through Programs)
I have a list that I cannot be bothered to type out, suffice to say I have a degree in Computing & Information systems (no big deal I know!) and over ten years experience in building, maintaining and upgrading PC's not to mention several years experience of owning Palm o/s, Symbian o/s and Win CE pocket pc's.
My opinion is valid!! I don't care what anyone else says to the contrary. Windows mobile 5 and it's predecessors are a load of crap and are robbing us of our hard earned cash!! And I've spent a fortune on them all!!
I am by no means an expert, but I am no fool and more than capable of learning, hence I've tried to no avail with these devices.
Just when you think your device is running near perfect (within reason), new issues pop up!
NEWBIES...PAY ATTENTION!!!
Get out of this while you can and stop throwing away money and your most precious commodity....your TIME!!!
My last o/s phone (smartphone) was a SonyEriccson P910i. That was quite good with minimal crashes or lock-ups. I moved back to Windows based mobile phones because of more CPU power and compatibility.
MAIN GRIPES:
I miss calls....due to maintenance (upgrading ROM or soft resets or hard resets or lock-ups)
I miss text and MMS messages.....due to maintenance
I miss appointments due non-induced hard resets (only twice mind you)
I miss knowing that I can be reached or can make a call at any given moment!!
I'm not one of those people who needs a phone predominantly and a PDA secondly. I just need reliability.
I've swapped..yes swapped my Jasjar for the MDA Vario for the same reasons that I'm complaining about WM5 & HTC. The Wizard is just as unstable!!
Don't misunderstand me...when these devices are working, they are wonderful and I would prefer no other phone/PPC in the world, but reliability is of paramount importance, surely!!
Well...I'm done with this 'got to be a developer to use my phone' syndrome. I'm going back to SonyE. or someone else who know how to make devices with at least 90% reliability!! I wasn't expecting perfection from Man, merely my moneys worth!!
This is the bottom line:
I want a convergence device that I spend more time deriving its benefits than I do researching how to improve its instability and unreliability!!
And before anyone says it:
HTC are full of it just like Microsoft, as they were undoubtedly aware of this WM5 bug-ridden o/s before desinging hardware for it!
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Update: 27/2/06:
See my most recent posts. I was wrong and apologise for misleading you guys without having properly identified the cause of my device problems (very dangerous I know). The problem was definately buggy ROMs and this has now been fully rectified via Qteks 1.6.7.1 ROM.
Give it up!!!
If you check all my posts you will find that I am still appreciative of all the hard work that a lot of you gurus have made, but that does not excuse HTC & Microsoft for continually releasing products before they have been tested and twaeked to perfection.
This is not a game!! Some of us actually rely on these devices to help earn a living and or organise our lives!!
I now find myself reverting back to doing everything on a regular PC, standard phone and pen & Paper!!
HTC devices have become a joke to me!
Additionally; my wife is on her 4th..yes 4th brand new MDA Pro!!! Different issues with all of them.
That tells you something doesn't it? :?
I am reviewing my options:
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=316&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0
Hmm.. I'm using MDA Compact 2, doesn't seems to have your problems.. the only problem I have is a dead loud speaker.
Anyway, you may want to try out Treo that runs Palm.
consumer electronics
Hi,
i just moved away from a palm treo 600: bad telephone reception and literally crappy headphone connector (it screwed up the telephone with a bug well known on internet, i had to use my solder to repair it...).
And now i am an happy user of an QTEK9100. Not perfect, but very near...except for the alarm!!! sometimes missed. no resets, SUPER voice command, 264 MHz and ROM 2.8....you get me.
I think there is a general problem in consumer electronic: support for example. Once you give the money for a buy, bye bye....
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mackaby007 said:
NEWBIES...PAY ATTENTION!!!
Get out of this while you can and stop throwing away money and your most precious commodity....your TIME!!!
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i'm not a total noob. the cingular htc wizard is my first ppc/phone though. i do have a htc faraday/wm5 and htc typhoon/sp'03 but they are simple smartphones.
i must say that you have scared me a bit.
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lpasq said:
mackaby007 said:
NEWBIES...PAY ATTENTION!!!
Get out of this while you can and stop throwing away money and your most precious commodity....your TIME!!!
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i'm not a total noob. the cingular htc wizard is my first ppc/phone though. i do have a htc faraday/wm5 and htc typhoon/sp'03 but they are simple smartphones.
i must say that you have scared me a bit.
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Sorry Ipasq.
Maybe my bad experience is clouding my judgement somewhat. All I'm saying is that if you find yourself tweaking and upgrading more than you use the device, ....somethings wrong and you should consider what you set out for when you bought it. if your experience is a good one with minor setbacks (which your happy to live with) then ignore my experiences.
I'm currently re-testing/evaluating my Device with just the minimum of software installed, that I cannot do without, maybe that will highlight problems with a specific application (but I doubt it!) To try and remain fair to the rest of HTC product owners, I will post my findings if they are positive and I will humbly retract my complaints but if they proove to remain negative, I'll keep it to myself so as to not deter anyone from indulging in WM5 PPC/phone!
Good luck either way. :wink:
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mackaby007 said:
If you check all my posts you will find that I am still appreciative of all the hard work that a lot of you gurus have made, but that does not excuse HTC & Microsoft for continually releasing products before they have been tested and twaeked to perfection.
This is not a game!! Some of us actually rely on these devices to help earn a living and or organise our lives!!
I now find myself reverting back to doing everything on a regular PC, standard phone and pen & Paper!!
HTC devices have become a joke to me!
Additionally; my wife is on her 4th..yes 4th brand new MDA Pro!!! Different issues with all of them.
That tells you something doesn't it? :?
I am reviewing my options:
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=316&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0
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Hi,
I think you have got a very bad experience there. I've been using smartphones from motorola MPX200 to Sony Ericsson's P800, Motorola's E680, O2's Blue Angel and now Dopod 838. Let me tell you, I must admit that WM2003 was quite buggy, however, the new WM2005 is real neat. I wouldn't say Microsoft has done a bad job, cos I've used worse device. P800 running on symbian was really a horror. I've promised not to ever use a symbian phone again after my bad experience with P800. (am I sterotyping then?)
As far as I am concern, WM2005 runs almost perfectly, if not flawless. and I've not experienced what you have been through. So, lets not come to a conclusion just based on your bad experience, okie?
(Kinda makes me wonder if u work for Sony, the way you put things? ) No offence plz, just my 3 cents worth. ~.~!
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mackaby007 said:
If you check all my posts you will find that I am still appreciative of all the hard work that a lot of you gurus have made, but that does not excuse HTC & Microsoft for continually releasing products before they have been tested and twaeked to perfection.
This is not a game!! Some of us actually rely on these devices to help earn a living and or organise our lives!!
I now find myself reverting back to doing everything on a regular PC, standard phone and pen & Paper!!
HTC devices have become a joke to me!
Additionally; my wife is on her 4th..yes 4th brand new MDA Pro!!! Different issues with all of them.
That tells you something doesn't it? :?
I am reviewing my options:
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=316&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0
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Hmn ok thanks for the heads up in advanced. However, I don't see how converged devices will improve if SE's the only one doing it somewhat correctly.
Sure, MS and HTC probably both suck in someway, but I don't get why you had to get 4 of the same devices to figure that out. I mean like, most people won't even go past changing the same device for the 3rd time.
While I'm sure your information is valid in someway, it's kinda obvious to me that not everyone is suited to use a pda phone, or pda for that matter.
If you have that experience as a developer, you should know that new stuff that MS comes up with usually comes with a truckload of problems, in my opinion, you should have stuck with a laptop or maybe some blackberry option, or even pen/paper.
In the first place, I highly doubt that the pda phone was designed to totally do away with the traditional pen/paper combo anyway.
In the first place, I highly doubt that the pda phone was designed to totally do away with the traditional pen/paper combo anyway.
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I'll agree with this line. There isn't really an OS that can run efficiently. If you want a phone to function as a full pledged PC, it won't happen. There are a lot of things we need to sacrifice. I would suggest the Nokia 9500 as the perfect business phone for you.
To me all phones are great...
great paper weight.
what a lot of people tend to do is as soon as they get a device they automatically think they should start tweaking and updateing things.....what some people dont' understand is that every tweak and every upgrade will be different for others....people need to try out thier devices for a few days, maybe weeks depended on how often you use the devices features, and see if your device really needs the tweaks or not....that's what i do, i use my device then as soon as i see that something can be changed or needs to be tweaked i'll see if there is one out there, i do it one at a time try it out for a while then move on to the next, so that way you'll know if that tweak is really stable or not, don't do all the tweaks at one time......for some people the device is perfect right out the box.....just something to think about....
i understand your frustration ... i myself having a plethora of smartphones / pda phones ... i personally happy with my xda exec ... why? because anybody who goes into this realm of pda phones should understand that the HTC products are always been PDAs first and Phones second ... with this premise, upgrading the ROM regularly is part of the whole experience... I also have all SE p800, p900, p910 which are all great Phones then having the great PDA functionality ... while the p900 and p910 have minimal differences, they are very good phones first and then very good PDAs to boot ... but you see even the more stable SE P series phones need to restarted and have their own version of hard reset (though not as frequent as their Windows counterparts)
ps i'm not even going to those Palm Treo 600 / 650 devices which are nothing but a last ditch effort of palm to try to get into the wireless phone realm ... they are just not as good as their windows / symbian counterparts ... and why get blackberries if you can get blackberry connect on your windows mobile / nokia / sony ericsson p9xx phones?
Hi All!
Thank you very much for your candid replies. I appreciate that everyones experience will either vary somewhat or be totally different. However, I firmly believe 'If it ain't broke...don't fix it'!
I have only ever upgraded because of issues with these devices and only ever applied tweaks, because improvement was MUCH needed!
I hear you all the same though, if your not up for fight stay out of the arena. Sorry all, but I'm not a defeatest. I'm not giving up, merely venting my frustrations for becoming a free-tester for Microsoft and HTC.
It wouldn't be so bad if they offered us a 50% discount on purchasing these devices as we are the ones getting to the root of their buggy devices whilst they charge us for it and then charge us again (in FULL) when they implement our improvements into their next versions of Windows Mobile devices.
Just my opinion, but I'm sticking to it. :wink:
Old T-mobile Rom:
Rom Version: 1.3.2.2 ENU
Rom Date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.04.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.17
ExtRom: 1.3.2.102
Updated T-Mobile ROM:
Rom Version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
Rom Date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtRom: 1.6.2.105
Current ROM:
Custom ROM: O2 ROM
Rom Version: 1.5.4.2 WWE
Rom Date: 11/8/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtRom: Removed by default (xtra 10 megs in extended ROM through total Commander)
They ALL suck (sooner or later).
HTC UNIVERSAL
Stay well clear of the XDA EXEC!
I am on number seven of the XDA Exec and finaly given up
so many faults.......
CASE MARKS>>>£600 phone and the keyboard hits the screen and rubs the letters off the keyboard AND MAKE SHINEY MARKS ON THE FACE OF THE PHONE...dont HTC test these before they sell them? EMAILED HTC ABOUT THIS ISSUE...THEY NEVER REPLIED...
SPEED.....THE FASTEST PROCESSOR AND ITS SLOWER THAN MY XDA2???
HANGS UP DURING CALLS BY ITSELF........JUST ABOUT THREW IT OUT MY CAR WINDOW....PEOPLE THINK YOUR TAKING THE PISS WITH THEM CAUSE IT HANGS UP SO OFTEN
ALARM PROGRAM IS A JOKE......SLEPT IN SO MANY TIMES CAUSE OF THIS PILE OF SH..I.T
SCREEN RES IS LOVELY BUT THE GLASS IS TOO THIN!! SO WHEN YOU WRITE ON IT THE LCD PANEL DISTORTS....ERR DOH! :evil:
Going to get it swapped, may go back to the XDA 2i or maybe the mini s but the CPU speed on that may be an issue for me :shock:
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kevin666 said:
Stay well clear of the XDA EXEC!
I am on number seven of the XDA Exec and finaly given up
so many faults.......
CASE MARKS>>>£600 phone and the keyboard hits the screen and rubs the letters off the keyboard AND MAKE SHINEY MARKS ON THE FACE OF THE PHONE...dont HTC test these before they sell them? EMAILED HTC ABOUT THIS ISSUE...THEY NEVER REPLIED...
SPEED.....THE FASTEST PROCESSOR AND ITS SLOWER THAN MY XDA2???
HANGS UP DURING CALLS BY ITSELF........JUST ABOUT THREW IT OUT MY CAR WINDOW....PEOPLE THINK YOUR TAKING THE PISS WITH THEM CAUSE IT HANGS UP SO OFTEN
ALARM PROGRAM IS A JOKE......SLEPT IN SO MANY TIMES CAUSE OF THIS PILE OF SH..I.T
SCREEN RES IS LOVELY BUT THE GLASS IS TOO THIN!! SO WHEN YOU WRITE ON IT THE LCD PANEL DISTORTS....ERR DOH! :evil:
Going to get it swapped, may go back to the XDA 2i or maybe the mini s but the CPU speed on that may be an issue for me :shock:
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We must be the only two dissatisfied customers left browsing these forums! :lol:
I'd advise you to go back to what works for you, cause the mini s is no better in my 'humble' opinion! :wink:
Let's hope I'm wrong!!
Just installed/updated to Qtek ROM 1.6.7.1
Will evaluate for a few days and post my experiences. Hope this prooves me wrong!!
mackaby007
Qtek ROM:
Rom Version: 1.6.7.1 WWE
Rom Date: 11/28/05
Radio version: 01.13.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.24
ExtRom: 1.6.7.101
Why do you say the mini s is no better?
Qtek ROM stable!!??!! Maybe!!
kevin666 said:
Why do you say the mini s is no better?
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Well it would certainly SEEM that way until now. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I've had a Jasjar which with an updated i-mate ROM, was stable but in my opinion, underperformed (everyone says it's due to the way WM5 works - bug ridden I say). I then swapped my jasjar (at a loss of course) for a T-mobile vario (Wizard) or o2 mini s etc.
My experience is that, while no bugs are visible, these devices seem like the best thing since sliced bread, but when you've had them up and running a while, the worms come out of the woodwork.
All said and done though....I updated/changed my ROM last night to Qteks 1.6.7.1 ROM and till now (about 20 hours later), not one crash, no loss of calls or uninitiated soft or hard resets! Aditionally, it SEEMS to be stable and reliable (with all my 3rd party software installed and with TI OMAP overclocking or not!).
Verdict?
Too soon to say. But I'm actually feeling rather optimistic if not just hopeful. I'm hoping that I've been wrong and that all my past experiences have been due too buggy ROMs and not WM5 & HTC. We'll see.
Another point of interest is that since I updated/changed my wifes T-mobiles MDA PRO to Qteks latest ROM, there have only been 2 lock-ups (we can live with that) and she's had that ROM for 9 days!
So it's looking like most of the instability issues we've had thus far are due to buggy ROMs.
Therefore I already feel it necessary to apologise for my negative comments and hope that anyone who has read this thread has taken the time to keep track of how things develop.
Kevin if you're interested in the mini s, don't be put of by my experiences, as there are many other factors that could have contributed to my experiences. Go for it, but be prepared for some headaches (just in case!).
Hope this helps (sorry bout the long post) :lol:
mackaby007
Qtek ROM:
Rom Version: 1.6.7.1 WWE
Rom Date: 11/28/05
Radio version: 01.13.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.24
ExtRom: 1.6.7.101
I'm Wrong!!
I'm extremely happy to say, that I must be wrong, as I've not had one crash since Fridays upgrade to Qteks 1.6.7.1 ROM.
So far I can complain about absolutely nothing, as I have even exceeded my normal usage of these devices to try and hasten a crash, but to no avail.
Long live Qteks ROM!!
apologies again for this whole thread, slating HTC and co.
I tend to agree with the OP. WM5 devices (or ppc and predecessors) and smartphones do a lot, but they tend to be a pain in the ass and finicky.
One simple example, when a WM device loses a GPRS connection, frequently you'll have to cycle the radio to get a usable connection again. Every time? No, but often enough, where you don't trust it. Compare this to a blackberry. With a bb, the connection is rock solid and robust. No, you don't get nearly as many features on a bb, but you can absolutely count on being able to receive a call and being able to obtain a data connection, period.
I currently use a smt5600, a wizard, and a 7290. When I'm traveling and I need to be sure that I'm communicating, I take the 7290.
I liken the comparison of WM to BB OSs to a comparison of firearms . The WM device to a Colt pistol: beatiful, but not as reliable as my spartan Glock. The blackberry is 100% Glock. MS needs to work on transitioning away from the finicky Colt towards a more reliable AND feature rich device...something Sig Sauerish, if you will.
I agree that these newer devices are bug ridden and do not function as advertised. My original Pocket PC Phone Edition was more useful than my Wizard is. If I hadn't broke it, I would not have bought a new one.
That said I, too, first bought a different device, the PDA2K. It just worked. No problems at all. Send/receive faxes, instant messaging, email, internet, great phone signal, bluetooth handsfree...but the keyboard! I just couldn't get used to it. Why did I trade in and buy the Wizard? I was stooooopid! I wanted the keyboard and EDGE. But, mostly, the keyboard. When I first saw the photos of it, I fell in love. It was, I thought, perfect! So I called up the dealer and he agreed to send me a KJAM for $350.00 and my PDA2K.
Now, here's just how stupid I was...I didn't even read the specs thoroughly enough to know that the Wizard was smaller. When I rec'd it, I was shocked! I liked the bigger size screen. A lot. Doh! What an idiot.
But, hey, that has nothing to do with the fact that the Wizard is not fully functional as delivered. That it's slooooow. That the speakerphone is a useless piece of advertisement for HTC/Imate. That the sound quality is crap, at best. That the phone doesn't have the ability to power up to a signal that's only slightly weak. That the dual core proc. is divided to be used separately by the phone and pc. That sometimes it needs to be rebooted just to get a signal, or for the bluetooth to work, or because the screen is pixelated. That you need to buy a 3rd party app. just to back it up. That A/S 4.x is also junk.
Why, oh why, didn't they just make a PDA2K with a Wizard keyboard? LOL
HTC/iMate, you got my last dollar, hope you spent it wisely.
I have my diamond for almost a year now at first I bought a European diamond that does not work on the 3g network in my country (Colombia) then y had the chance to change it for the us version that support this network and with the help of all of you in xda developers I think that my phone is like a dream.
But in a Spanish forum that I also read (http://www.laneros.com/showthread.php?p=2690580#post2690580) the people say that the diamond is a piece of crap compared to the Samsung omnia or even the htc cruise.
It refer to the gps lag the all we know and is related to the qualcomm cpu. And the ram that is only 192mb that shares 64 mb with the 3d driver so left less that the ram that could have an older phone, and with the TF3D, the phone is too slow…
What do you think is the omnia much better phone that our diamond.
I read that because the screen with 4 times more resolution the diamond makes 4 x more operations or some thing la that. What do you think? I would like to answer this other forum but I have no technical information to contradict his theory.
I think all that matters is if you like it.
Pumpiron579 said:
I think all that matters is if you like it.
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i like it
Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone
it is a diamond
Test with 2.03
Hi,
I update to 2.03 my mobile from tre.se with some "hacks" because swedish phone.
I think 2.03 is better and now my phone is quicker.
Thx omaga for the tip
B.R
Henrik
omaga said:
Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone
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one of my mates has an omnia and he always asking to play with my diamond, so i cant be that much better lol
2.03
Hi,
My Diamond is quicker now with 2.03.
If you think that your diamond is to slow try 2.03
omnia : bigger storage , yes . louder sound , yes .better camera and flash , yes . much better battery life , yes .
but when i decided to choose between omnia and diamond , i hold them both in my hands and bought diamond although they both cost the same in that time (now diamond costs more in my country.libya)
so why i chose diamond , i don't know but loved it more
The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do
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The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do
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I love how you turned it around regarding your comment here xavierdemon....Yes it does have it's faults but you couldn't have said it better, XDA developers create the essence of why we all truly believe that, "Diamonds are Forever"
At first, my battery seemed crap and the Rom to be luggish but after being exposed to this great community, the Diamond truly shines !!
Disclaimer
Hey it's all about being positive as well. No phone is perfect
xavierdemons post nails it.
isn't it the community around here, that is mostly responsible for the joy with our diamonds? i sure wouldn't have cooked rom of my like (how nice, you can choose of many!), registry-tweaks found by xda-devs, all those tipps and tricks that sum up to MY diamond which is like no other (iphones appear to me like clones - roger roger)...
it's not just the capabilities of pure hardware that make some of those devices kinda special... there were other mp3 players before the ipod, and hardware-wise htc has much more to offer than the iphone. (kinda lame i have to use apple stuff to phrase what i mean ^^)
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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You firmware version can not be verified until you verify it yourself DUH. What a dumb question. Your ROM IS YOUR VERSION. If you update the phone with the latest official ROM, and then flash a different ROM than you obviously lose the official ROM so update is pointless.
Phone lasts 3 days on standby now. It lasts 4-5 hours on usage.
No risks at all. But if you're not good at doing simple stuff such as flashing ROM don't get into it. PLEASE! It took me 24 hours NON STOP too help some clueless person flash his NIKE because he just kept doing it wrong and yet I gave him straightforward and in depth instructions. Other than that, flashing your from or updating your phone with an official ROM will delete all personal data.
If hard spl bricked your phone than you're obviously doing something wrong. If it bricked your phone, the developers wouldn't even release hard spl....
I won't suggest any Apps.
Yes, CAB files work on 6.5.
Don't get an iPhone. Don't get Xperia. Touch Pro2 is much better (especially they keyboard).
ATT does not offer. But you can buy the American version that works well on ATT's 3G.
Since when does a phone need an accelerometer to rotate? And yes you can use programs to rotate the screen (even tho accelerometer is not necessay....i guess you have absolutely no idea what an accelerometer is). But yes you can assign shortcuts or modify physical buttons. One program for example is AEBPlus.
All Xperia's can be hard spl'd.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
No you can flash it with a custom rom whenever you like.
On average, how long would the battery last?
On average with a fair bit of wifi usage it'll last 3-4 days, less with constant voice usage.
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
Probably 6 days without using it
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
To be honest i've flashed loads of phones and even if it bricks it temporarily you can always reflash it. Windows 7 makes no difference if you flash from the memory card.
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
I would guess if this happens you can always reflash the standard rom, however I have no experiance with this.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I've got no problems with the volume but there are probably volume increasers out there.
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
The trick with reflashing is going for the best rom for you. I use the bare version of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891. However with most roms you will loose the panels but honestly I dont think that its much of a sacrifice.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
No in my experience the case is pretty tough but if you put it in the same pocket as your keys bits of the sony logo will come off. Having said that the build quality is miles better than any other phone with a similar spec.
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
All cabs i've installed have worked on 6.5 fine.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
The iphone is a good bit of kit but it depends on what you want to use it for. If you want a replacement mp3 player and phone and you like itunes the the iphone is probably best for you. If you prefer a phone that you can customise use any software on or simply prefer not to be locked to apple the go for the X1. You must bare in mind though that unless you need to get a new phone now there are a load of new winmo phones about to come out with better specs.
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Sorry mate im from the UK.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Im fairly sure that you can set a button to change from portrait to landscape, at least there are with my old hermes.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
As far as I know there is no way that a winmo phone can be "locked" to prevent it from being flashed.
Thanks in advance.
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No problem
I've just remembered a good video guide to flash your rom is here if your still curious: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497511
Thanks a lot for your input guys, it really helped. One last thing. When people say that Manila is "integrated" with WinMo, does that mean that Manila acts as a separate panel (like I've seen in many videos) or is there something I'm missing?
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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My two cents:
Flashing a ROM deletes all previous installs/updates/whatever.
Normal use - 1 day.
Heavy use - 4 hours.
Minimal to non-existent.
No.
RAFO lol.
Depends on the ROM, but it will never be perfectly smooth.
Just like any other phone.
Yes.
Depends on what you need. If you need a useless outdated device to show off infront of your friends - getbn the iCrap.
If you want a pocket computer - get the X1.
Also, Touch Pro 2 IS NOT better than the X1. I made a thread about in their forum. Search for it. It is called "Touch Pro 2 sucks. Here is why.". I would put a link, but I'm posting this from my X1 and I'm too lazy to do it lol.
I don't know.
Yes, you can map a button to do it.
Yes.
pashax1 said:
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
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Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
modo_uk said:
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
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FAIL.....
With newer smartphone models on the horizon, I don't know how wise a move it would be to buy an X1 now unless it's a really good deal. My X1 is holding up fine for my needs now, but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking and the fact that I'm using Mac's keeps me on my stock ROM (though once updated on a Windows computer), but that's not something I'm necessarily unhappy about. Sure, I'm curious about all the ROM's out there and different UI's but I feel the phone is really stable now. I haven't had a crash for quite a while, which I feel is worth celebrating considering it's WinMo
This phone scratches WAY less than most smartphones, because it isn't made entirely of very cheap plastic...
HTC's other branded phones are pretty notorious for their cheap housing and they crack/scratch/break quite easily.
The three main UI overhauls are Manila (TF3D), SPB Mobile Shell and PointUI Home 2. There's a billion cabs you can skin different things with, so no point in gathering this information until after you have a ROM installed, since different ROMs come with different things installed already.
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
hezz05 said:
but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking
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well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
Hmm, well I HAVE considered other smartphones. I've had a Nokia N73 with Symbian S60th edition for like 2 years now (great OS, just bored of it), so I don't really think I'd want another Symbian phone like the Nokia N97. I've also never used WinMo before, and I know it's not really that good (which is why there's touchflo and custom roms ) , but I also want to try something fresh and new. I've also considered the HTC Touch Pro 2, but At&t doesn't offer it and it's like 700 bucks unlocked when I could get the xperia for like 450 bucks unlocked (ebay). Other than that I really dont know what other phone I could consider buying.
Thanks for all these replies guys. I didn't really expect this many.
asayamalaka said:
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
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I'd be happy to read a noob-friendly tutorial for Mac users if you could direct me to one. But since I haven't seen either from the day of purchase, I'm keeping with my opinion for now.
Having the ability to mod/customize doesn't take away that the stock Winmo and SE UI is shoddy though. If it were good in the first place it wouldn't need/inspire customizing.
AT&T will offer the TP2, but yeah that phone is not cheap, even with subsidies + rebates...
I got my Xperia X1a used for $400 and works great. I hate how cheap the HTC branded phones feel...
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated? You have to install Hard-SPL which is very easy.
On average, how long would the battery last?
I use mine pretty much all day (music,video,calls etc) and it lasts for about 24hrs until it needs a charge.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
It's very easy just read the tutorial thread.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know) The volume really isn't that bad, It's no 5800 although it gets the job done.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up? If you treat your things with care you won't have any problem.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think I bought an X1 about a week ago and it's great although I suggest you try it out perhaps at the store or a friends to see if you like it.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
Yes you can.
orelsi said:
Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
FAIL.....
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Please refrain from calling someone a liar whoever you are. I am only saying what is a fact with my phone. I have been very very careful with its use and protection. Just beacuse you are lucky to not have a bad experience with X1 doesnot qualify you to suggest others are telling lies. I have been using high end mobile phones even before you were born and i know what i am talking about. Dont misguide users with your baseless judgements.
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
treeeee said:
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
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Hehehehe... you're inviting yourself to be flamed... A bit of search would have given you answers. Check out the sticky's related to tweaks. I would recommend installing Xperia Tweak or some other applications like Pocket Toolman and SKTools etc that can let you make changes to your system settings.
"We picked up on a couple of rumours from yesterday that an official X1 Windows Mobile 6.5 rom had surfaced on XDA developers. Just wanted to be clear that this isn’t true.
There is no official X1 6.5 rom and it’s not in the X1’s product roadmap. There are hackers out there who can do pretty much anything, but unless you’re getting it from the SE update service it isn’t an official Sony Ericsson product."
Source:
http://xperiancers.com/2009/09/10/x1-upgrade-not-in-the-roadmap/
Wait and see...
But even if they work on it, they will try to keep it secret as long as possible
But if they keep us waiting and it never does come.....
SE dont want to advertise that 6.5 is coming to x1 because they want people to get the x2 with 6.5 - after the x2 has been out for a while then they might release a 6.5 update to x1 i guess
hm... smells fishy. I wonder if Itje cares to comment on this.
No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/
I was skeptical to begin with when itje announced his new ROM was being based on an official Xperia 6.5 leak.
Could be an X2 beta ROM.
Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?
jhendra they said the same thing as well about the x1 sooooo...
"Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?"
no ms never sold wm or windows CE to end users as it's without any drivers
so end users would never be able to make it work unless they had the platform builder
and all the drivers 100% matching the device they owned
jhendra said:
No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/
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It's a rumour by Eldar posted on mobile-review forum.
So, you can also easily forget it too.
Hard to believe for me.
see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again
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see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again
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Well, I don't feel sooooo screwed...
My phone works fine, I'm not dying for upgr.
But anyway - we'll see when WM6.5 is out,
too early to speak.
well i feel screwed, they managed to give the x2 drivers for a smooth panel interface and look at us idiots with a choppy panel manager, btw did i say the hardware is the same?
if they dont update our x1, u bet i wont be buying another SE device, i should have learned my lesson from the P series
Actually nobody said that there is an official X1-ROM with WM6.5 avaliable until now, itje didn't as well...
Itje just announced that he's got an official X1-WM6.5-kernel and some new OEM drivers. That makes the chance for a real official WM6.5-ROM via SEUS for X1 much more likely then before, we think.
as much as we all would love 6.5 upgrade, i think the most important upgrade the x1 could get is a smoother panel interface and new panels, even if its on wm 6.1
why is it that korea got spb mobile shell 3 and xtrakt?
what is so special about the korean xperia market than everyone else in the world?
i wont be surprised either if korea got the update we are looking for either lol
anyway, u have to admit, SE support is very very poor...i will wait and see what the next few months will bring...i dont intend to buy a new device just for a service pack upgrade which wm 6.5 really should be...
as i said, we dont have to get the 6.5, but damn, fix our damn 6.1 panel interface and give us more panels
if they dont upgrade the x1 to 6.5 then theres no way i am getting a x2 because it just shows how poor their after sale support is...
who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!
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who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!
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I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.
doministry said:
I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.
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same unfourtunatley - custom roms are only good for me for seeing what should be released officially one day
all 6.5 roms have problems
I'd like to get the 6.5 upgrade to utilize Marketplace.
I know it's been stated it will support 6.1 also but let's face it, it's a developer based app stream and I don't imagine we'll see too many developers using 6.1 anymore.
me too i tried and ended back with seus rom
As of late, 'our' part of the forum is seeing less frequent updates. Modders seem to leave for newer phones and the various ROMs that are being updated are becoming a minority.
So, are you still sticking with the X1 or are you thinking of getting the X2 or any other next-gen phone?
I am sticking with my X1 for now. Can't afford an X2 or X10 yet Maybe I'll change it in 4-5 years Just hope the chefs and cook keep coming out with better and better ROMs.
You cannot predict that kind of things anyway
Seeing as i cant get the X2 anywhere on contract and it isnt going to be much better than the x1 i am going to get the HD2 - its looks amazing!
I'm sticking with x1 for now too. But I am also very eager to get the Nexus One in my hands... as it already has a large and fast growing support on this very forum.
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As of late, 'our' part of the forum is seeing less frequent updates. Modders seem to leave for newer phones and the various ROMs that are being updated are becoming a minority.
So, are you still sticking with the X1 or are you thinking of getting the X2 or any other next-gen phone?
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X1 for now definitely.
A great device.
X2 soon probably.
Happy with X1
I'm happy (and stuck on contract still for quite a while) with X1
It's a great hardware form factor if you want a hardware keyboard in a 'normal' sized phone, okay HD2 is definitely the lead 'sexy' device at the moment but it's too big and doesn't have a hardware keyboard.
To me there still seems to be a lot of ROM activity going on (more choice than I can handle) and the fact that latest Sense 2.5 has now been enhanced on this forum to run in landscape means that phones like the X1 are actually getting better again with later ROMs whereas before that it made sense to stay on Manilla 2.1 to have landscape support.
I'm just hoping that the cooks and the community get to the bottom of this Standby of Death problem that seems to be affecting many people on our X1 with WM6.5 + Manilla 2.5 builds as shiny software is nice, but unreliable is not something I can accept in my phone
People knock WM6.5's progress, but try the latest WM6.5.3 ROMs with buttons all along the bottom, Manilla 2.5 and finger friendly menus and icons everywhere and WM6.1 feels a huge step back!
Overall I'm very disappointed that Sony dropped the X1 with no official WM6.5 support after boasting that we were premium customers and would be supported as such...you bet I am!
However the ROM forum for X1 is still buzzing and making major changes so I'm very happy and see a bright future for the X1 still.
Thanks XDA Developers!
X10 or Nexus one
Just waiting for next month for MWC2010 for see all the goodies if nothing interesting then X10 or Nexus one
cheers
XT701 - if I can make it to China soon!
But realistically, I'll probably stick to X1 for a good few years because I don't even see anything on the horizon that fits my wants. Maybe WM 7 will come with some sweet new phones? If the XT701 comes to America I might get it when it hits despite the lack of a hardware keyboard.
I only just got my X1!
I went over to the HD2 camp. Still visit xperia forums occasionally as it now is my "play with roms" phone.
I'm still definately staying on the x1 ..... I've been a big harvester in times when the x1 scene was crowded and up-to-date....lately I have learned cooking and am trying to create ma own stuff.....now i'm under exams but i'll defo try to offer gd stuff for x1 users for at least an year or so....so yes I'm here to stay and to COOK !!
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I only just got my X1!
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Me too, still have 20+ months contract more... loving X1 at least it is better than some normal phones that does not have qwerty keypad, I chose this phone because of its accessibility on qwerty keyboard and it looks nice
I have only my X1 at the minute. Contract is due for an upgrade in June, so considering the X10. I don't think that the X2 is worth upgrading too as many people have said that anything available on the X2 also works on the X1 (within reason...)
Love my wee X1 (beats the pants of my co-workers' Blackberrys! )
well... as some of You know allready - I gave up. the _only_ thing worse in hd2 over x1 is battery life. other than that - couldn't been happier... for now.
btw: no x2 in voda uk http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=11973 boo hoo we shall be so sad now I guess...
I think there will be ROM development for the X1 for quite a while. I had a Prophet before the X1, and there was a lot of activity on that forum 2 years after I got mine, and a good 18 months after it was non-current.
I think ROM development is the leading indicator to watch. I haven't looked at stats between different forums, but subjectively based on current activity I think we'll have ROMs for a while .
From a hardware perspective, the X1 is pretty good (prepare to be flamed). OK it's not leading edge any more, no accelerometer, video issues etc, but in terms of the processor and onboard RAM it's going to be OK.
Would I like the latest phone? Of course, but running a custom ROM which is fast & stable, I don't have a lot of motivation to change.
So I'm staying
I'll be staying
I've had this phone for 3 months and now i've only discovered the SE support issue. I wish i knew it when i brought it but i love the x1 in all its faults. What else could i buy, i didn't like much and it needed to be professional?! I hope development continues. I don't expect WM7 to be ported but that would be great.. I'm sure the phone wouldn't be able to run it on its specs.
Regardless I'll start a new thread and see what you guys are using your phones for and how you sync, i'm after ideas - this is my first smartphone.
I've had my X1 since a few weeks after it's release. I love it, but was dissatisfied that the software felt "unfinished" when SE released it. I now have the latest Christian Clean ROM installed and am pretty satisfied. I'll stick with the X1 until a truly kick-ass phone comes along:
My kick-ass phone:
1) "Zune HD phone"
2) iPhone responsiveness or better. I want absolutely no pauses and lags when I am operating the phone. This pisses me off most about WM. A faster CPU alone won't solve this!
3) Comprehensive speech-to-text (especially in SMS'ing and email)
4) INSTANT task switching when multi-tasking.
5) Hardware keyboard
6) Built-in comprehensive voice navigation so third-party developers can take advantage of it (not an add-on app like Voice Command).
7) Media download service ala iTunes (In other words, Zune integration)
8) Tegra, Snapdragon, nVidia or whatever CPU
9) Heavy-duty construction like X1 or original iPhone.
I probably won't buy another SE phone though. After the X1, it seems SE started going downhill and are showing no signs of improvement (X2 and X10 for example). I will probably get something HTC (an HD2 with keyboard that works with U.S. AT&T would be nice), unless Apple releases an iPhone with keyboard, multitasking and WVGA screen
X1 now but wait for X10 when is out....
I am waiting for a high end Android device with AT&T 3G support to come out. My X1 is so frustrating. My battery drains to about 40% then just dies like the battery is empty.