what could be the future for our beloved X1? - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know, i know...there has been said soooo much about the possible ROM-update voor X1 from wm 6.1 to wm 6.5....but there is just still is a bit of a bluh-feeling about the xperia not getting a final boost in performance/experience!
Not one person i know woth a x1 is going to buy the x2, and everyone i know with another phone, and everyone i read about on the net is looking at other phones! the X2 is bound to be a huge flop, simply because they (SE) are running behind! Everyone i know is talking about the HD2 woth its huge screen, or the omnia 2 with its huge screen and bright colors...the iphone is still hot with its huge screen, so is the touch pro 2, the hero, and even the Acer is getting ooohs and aaaahs!!!
And sony is coming with the X2? just compare all those hot phones with the xperia 2....not a great comparison IMHO!
N o, what i think what should be done, is to make the X1-fans more happy with their phone than they ever been, make the product really what it should be...skip the X2...and focus an the x3...(wich should be the true X2)
And because SE isn't doing anything right now about that, i would ask everyone who has the most cleanest wm 6.5 rom to link to the right thread, so any of the new(unexperienced) users can find a way to use their phones as they were brand new!

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hi peeps, i currently have a kaiser loving it although know i knows theres better
my question to you is, my upgarde is in two days what do i go for
the nokia n95 8gb
htc touch diamond
iphone (ha ha)
or the samsung omnia
i think ive already decided but i want to see your views on this, although apparently the omnia has no d3d acceleration, but does that mean the camera will be odd as with the kaiser, and i remember some one saying on a poll i did that if i got n95 id not be here, which is true i like this place, some you help a lot and i could get ,y head around a non winmo fone.
nb if the mods see fit to move this then go ahead i only posted as im currently based on this device therefore appreciate the opinions of the kaiser users, rather than the enitre forums
jayjay8585 said:
hi peeps, i currently have a kaiser loving it although know i knows theres better
my question to you is, my upgarde is in two days what do i go for
the nokia n95 8gb
htc touch diamond
iphone (ha ha)
or the samsung omnia
i think ive already decided but i want to see your views on this, although apparently the omnia has no d3d acceleration, but does that mean the camera will be odd as with the kaiser, and i remember some one saying on a poll i did that if i got n95 id not be here, which is true i like this place, some you help a lot and i could get ,y head around a non winmo fone.
nb if the mods see fit to move this then go ahead i only posted as im currently based on this device therefore appreciate the opinions of the kaiser users, rather than the enitre forums
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The HTC Touch Pro
i agree, touch pro, diamond, or xperia
Touch Pro (its an improved diamond so i will shortlist, Touch pro has video out man, present or movie directly to screens and projectors)
xperia have you heard about the RUMOR WM6.5 its probably just a rumor but Sony Ericsson will surely introduce something powerful but non-official support might be limited! htc is taking the lead..
iPhone do you mean you wanna cross to the other side of technology
Omnia looks pretty but Odd resolution and bad graphics run a search
Dude after this thread you made me think of a new toy too
not bothered about the odd resolution. but define bad graphics?
and touch pro aint on my network yet, and as above im upgrading in two days so no expaeria
and diamond only has 4gb of inbuilt memory. and no expansion slot. im not think this be wise move
and the iphone was a joke
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and touch pro aint on my network yet, and as above im upgrading in two days so no expaeria
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How long do you have time to choose a new phone? In the Netherlands you can choose (with most providers) a new phone 2 months in advance of your new contract. I waited 6 weeks until The Kaiser was available.
well i an decide from anytime i want but i put the order in in two days.
i tell you whatll decide it for me. if some one can answer
how well does the camera perform, does it fudder when panning like the kiser how fast is the capture
and
how goos are videos. the only way i can watch a decent video on the kaiser is switching to raw framebuffering on tcpmp, everything else is knackered
so does it??
i want to know how well it takes photos coz i kno the kaiser is a bit slow on the uptake
and how well it can display videos
does it have a driver
thats the omnia ordered.
less than 24 hours away
Keep us posted bro...I'm also contemplating on getting the omnia..or if the touch pro isn't it then probably I will wait for the official T3....TyTN 3.....
due to unforseen shipping errors, the company thats supposed to deliver my omnia havent. shouldve been here
cool its here it stunning. uncomparabvle to the kaiser, they are just toio different markets.
and im finally able to watch a massive divx movie without the skipping a checking wether im switched to raw framebuffer

I'm considering switching to HTC Touch Pro2...what is your input?

Guys, I need your input... please convince me whatever you want to convince me.
don't do it bro.
I think it's VERY VERY VERY STUPID! it's the same phone, and I don't see the TP2 have any advantage over the X1, besides bigger screen... better to wait for the X2 (pray to god the X2 have better CPU)
stay with the X1...
i heard the tp2 video framerate is much lower than the x1 as well, the best thing to do is ask members in the rhodium forum questions and compare them to your experiences with the x1
ait for the x2 man. It will have better cpu (i hope), Better battery life. X1 was just a test and now the test is complete they will give us X2 "god is shining his light upon the X2" hallaluja
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ait for the x2 man. It will have better cpu (i hope), Better battery life. X1 was just a test and now the test is complete they will give us X2 "god is shining his light upon the X2" hallaluja
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I can't get the X2 because it will be very expensive for me. Touch Pro 2 is surprisingly cheap compared to the X1a [i don't use 3G anyway, i shud have paid for the x1i version]
I want the TP2 because the music and conversation speaker + mix is almost hi-fi.
The screen is big.
And the keyboard is delicious.
The main reasons I don't want to switch is because of the Sony Ericsson Media Panel and the 3.5 mm jack.
I am also planning on selling my X1 and saving it for a future phone.
Well, if there were ppl who called the X1 a brick, I really wonder what they'd say to your Touch Pro 2.
Keep your X1 man. Do you have an X1a? R4A firmware is coming out and I heard it's gonna be a kick ass ROM.
jhendra said:
Keep your X1 man. Do you have an X1a? R4A firmware is coming out and I heard it's gonna be a kick ass ROM.
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Where did you get that info?
i would get it, or at least im considering it. i would like a bigger screeen. i also read somewhere that they maybe making one for att but that wont be till the end of the year.
You might as well hold out for a snapdragon phone.
That would be a lateral move. There's really no point. And besides, who wants a bigger phone with the same functionality these days?
You would be much better off holding off until at least one of these options
a. Tegra/Snapdragon
b. phones released with winmo 6.5 stock
c. phones released with winmo 7
tp2 is not really an upgrade
get the omnia pro if you really must change your phone
THE GRIZZ said:
tp2 is not really an upgrade
get the omnia pro if you really must change your phone
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I totally agree with this you. Omnia Pro is better than X1 in many ways, and TP2 has bigger display, only that.
Go for it! And tell us your opinion after switching X1 to TP2.
(Guessing you'll be missing for X1!)
poetryrocksalot said:
Guys, I need your input... please convince me whatever you want to convince me.
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Hardware is almost the same
TP2 pros:
bigger screen.
Xperia pros:
3.5mm headphone jack.
More RAM available.
Has camera flash.
D-pad (almost all games require one, or are played better with one. It is useful and a necessity).
Xperia looks better, feels better in the hand and is more useful. Your choice....
I am amused. How HTC can not include flash in a 3mp phone like touch pro 2. The phone is a sure shot but how can they even think of missing on the flash.
dont do it..just use tf3d and some of my mods..
go for it...x1 is one very good smartphone, but misses badly on essentialz:
bigger touch screen and windows mobile (and panels) being adjusted for touch input.
got my x1 just a week ago...played around, got used to it, installed all the programs i wanted...and came to conclusion that the touch screen is just toooo small and on the brink to be anoying...still functional, but...very BIG but...
whatever you get must have solid big touch screen...important for web-browsing,gps-ing, everything...size of new iPhone is just right...
...maybe x2 or x3 will sort out this few (big) mistakes of this great phone.
votec said:
go for it...x1 is one very good smartphone, but misses badly on essentialz:
bigger touch screen and windows mobile (and panels) being adjusted for touch input.
got my x1 just a week ago...played around, got used to it, installed all the programs i wanted...and came to conclusion that the touch screen is just toooo small and on the brink to be anoying...still functional, but...very BIG but...
whatever you get must have solid big touch screen...important for web-browsing,gps-ing, everything...size of new iPhone is just right...
...maybe x2 or x3 will sort out this few (big) mistakes of this great phone.
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Apple whoring much?
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

slightly off topic...

hey i know this i kind of off topic but... dont know where else to post or any other site with the brains thats on here...
I was just wondering would it be possible to port winmo 6.5 to the Satio... with like the camera UI... or would it be like a MOUNTAIN of work?... just curious cuz i cant switch from winmo now that ive been using for awhile... its just the best!!!
Is Satio already out??
first i think it would be very hard, it uses symbian. it would be have driver issue's, i think. it wouldn't be easy. it uses different CPU than the WM phones.
creative imagination! I know that wm6 has been run in iphone ,but performs badly.
I'm curious about that what's point of Satio attracting you?
the design is just off the charts!!! the camera, the processor and its pretty slim...
but i will probobly just buy the X2 hehe i own the x1 now and its the best phone ive used so far just hope the x2 can top it!!!
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I have just purchased the new satio. The camera is fantastic, build quality excelent and the screen is up there with the iphone. But the s60 operating system is a bit of a let down. I love the new WM6.5 (I have it running on an ipaq 614). It is way beyond me to even begin looking at porting the operating system across but is there anyone out there who would like to give it a go. I would be very grateful and I suspect there may be others who share my view.

X2 Com Manager??

Has anyone found that CAB/package anywhere???
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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you dhould try toich it v2 pretty nice tf3d rom
medzz said:
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
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in fact it is allready out...
Mooks said:
in fact it is allready out...
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
Anyone got a screenshot of the X2 commanager?
Whats different from the X1 one?
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
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You are right , but with a little bit modification the first x2 rom releases will prob do the thing, i dont want to buy the x2 cuz its basicly x1 but a new shell, new os lol, shell on x1 is a beuty compared to x2 lol! and the os(rom) will be working on our x1 so why spend 700 bucks on a new "x1" !!?
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
ipporek said:
Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Still the design is plastic and more fragile than a steady metall case the phone is bigger more clumsy and if u have x1 why buy x2 if u can get the same goodies on ur current phone? (finger keyboard v2 is the soloution)
I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
Hmm, im glad we have x1 lol, and soon we will have x2 in a better case (rom in our x1 for peeps that dont understand)
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
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Hmm now that you mention it, it makes sense that the X1 cracked for no reason at all looking at it in that light. Atleast the hardware remained sturdy. I also looked at the X10 but somehow can't get past the absence of a hardware keyboard and android OS. I love winmo as a OS although a lot of people complain about it. And the best thing about it is that you can keep upgrading it. SE stated that X2 would be able to upgrade to WM7 once it's released which means next year this time my X1 will also be running it. Then there is the HTC interface porting, Starcraft porting ect. Maybe they will bring out a real upgrade for the X1 when WM7 releases. Android is way too limited in my opinion and if you have 1.6 there's no way to flash to 2.0 not to mention no pc porting
iPhone is rather high quality I must admit. We will have to wait and see. I'm actually quite angry at HTC now, since thats probably also the friggen reason my spacebar key cracked in it's first week of use. I have a Foxconn motherboard in my pc and must also admit it's never given me any kind of problem
Personally I am going to buy a HTC HD2 then they start to sell it here in Denmark! Cause I feel that the Xperia X1 lost its charm quickly for me!

Are People Giving Up On The X1?

As of late, 'our' part of the forum is seeing less frequent updates. Modders seem to leave for newer phones and the various ROMs that are being updated are becoming a minority.
So, are you still sticking with the X1 or are you thinking of getting the X2 or any other next-gen phone?
I am sticking with my X1 for now. Can't afford an X2 or X10 yet Maybe I'll change it in 4-5 years Just hope the chefs and cook keep coming out with better and better ROMs.
You cannot predict that kind of things anyway
Seeing as i cant get the X2 anywhere on contract and it isnt going to be much better than the x1 i am going to get the HD2 - its looks amazing!
I'm sticking with x1 for now too. But I am also very eager to get the Nexus One in my hands... as it already has a large and fast growing support on this very forum.
SyntheticDistortion said:
As of late, 'our' part of the forum is seeing less frequent updates. Modders seem to leave for newer phones and the various ROMs that are being updated are becoming a minority.
So, are you still sticking with the X1 or are you thinking of getting the X2 or any other next-gen phone?
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X1 for now definitely.
A great device.
X2 soon probably.
Happy with X1
I'm happy (and stuck on contract still for quite a while) with X1
It's a great hardware form factor if you want a hardware keyboard in a 'normal' sized phone, okay HD2 is definitely the lead 'sexy' device at the moment but it's too big and doesn't have a hardware keyboard.
To me there still seems to be a lot of ROM activity going on (more choice than I can handle) and the fact that latest Sense 2.5 has now been enhanced on this forum to run in landscape means that phones like the X1 are actually getting better again with later ROMs whereas before that it made sense to stay on Manilla 2.1 to have landscape support.
I'm just hoping that the cooks and the community get to the bottom of this Standby of Death problem that seems to be affecting many people on our X1 with WM6.5 + Manilla 2.5 builds as shiny software is nice, but unreliable is not something I can accept in my phone
People knock WM6.5's progress, but try the latest WM6.5.3 ROMs with buttons all along the bottom, Manilla 2.5 and finger friendly menus and icons everywhere and WM6.1 feels a huge step back!
Overall I'm very disappointed that Sony dropped the X1 with no official WM6.5 support after boasting that we were premium customers and would be supported as such...you bet I am!
However the ROM forum for X1 is still buzzing and making major changes so I'm very happy and see a bright future for the X1 still.
Thanks XDA Developers!
X10 or Nexus one
Just waiting for next month for MWC2010 for see all the goodies if nothing interesting then X10 or Nexus one
cheers
XT701 - if I can make it to China soon!
But realistically, I'll probably stick to X1 for a good few years because I don't even see anything on the horizon that fits my wants. Maybe WM 7 will come with some sweet new phones? If the XT701 comes to America I might get it when it hits despite the lack of a hardware keyboard.
I only just got my X1!
I went over to the HD2 camp. Still visit xperia forums occasionally as it now is my "play with roms" phone.
I'm still definately staying on the x1 ..... I've been a big harvester in times when the x1 scene was crowded and up-to-date....lately I have learned cooking and am trying to create ma own stuff.....now i'm under exams but i'll defo try to offer gd stuff for x1 users for at least an year or so....so yes I'm here to stay and to COOK !!
Jive Turkey said:
I only just got my X1!
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Me too, still have 20+ months contract more... loving X1 at least it is better than some normal phones that does not have qwerty keypad, I chose this phone because of its accessibility on qwerty keyboard and it looks nice
I have only my X1 at the minute. Contract is due for an upgrade in June, so considering the X10. I don't think that the X2 is worth upgrading too as many people have said that anything available on the X2 also works on the X1 (within reason...)
Love my wee X1 (beats the pants of my co-workers' Blackberrys! )
well... as some of You know allready - I gave up. the _only_ thing worse in hd2 over x1 is battery life. other than that - couldn't been happier... for now.
btw: no x2 in voda uk http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=11973 boo hoo we shall be so sad now I guess...
I think there will be ROM development for the X1 for quite a while. I had a Prophet before the X1, and there was a lot of activity on that forum 2 years after I got mine, and a good 18 months after it was non-current.
I think ROM development is the leading indicator to watch. I haven't looked at stats between different forums, but subjectively based on current activity I think we'll have ROMs for a while .
From a hardware perspective, the X1 is pretty good (prepare to be flamed). OK it's not leading edge any more, no accelerometer, video issues etc, but in terms of the processor and onboard RAM it's going to be OK.
Would I like the latest phone? Of course, but running a custom ROM which is fast & stable, I don't have a lot of motivation to change.
So I'm staying
I'll be staying
I've had this phone for 3 months and now i've only discovered the SE support issue. I wish i knew it when i brought it but i love the x1 in all its faults. What else could i buy, i didn't like much and it needed to be professional?! I hope development continues. I don't expect WM7 to be ported but that would be great.. I'm sure the phone wouldn't be able to run it on its specs.
Regardless I'll start a new thread and see what you guys are using your phones for and how you sync, i'm after ideas - this is my first smartphone.
I've had my X1 since a few weeks after it's release. I love it, but was dissatisfied that the software felt "unfinished" when SE released it. I now have the latest Christian Clean ROM installed and am pretty satisfied. I'll stick with the X1 until a truly kick-ass phone comes along:
My kick-ass phone:
1) "Zune HD phone"
2) iPhone responsiveness or better. I want absolutely no pauses and lags when I am operating the phone. This pisses me off most about WM. A faster CPU alone won't solve this!
3) Comprehensive speech-to-text (especially in SMS'ing and email)
4) INSTANT task switching when multi-tasking.
5) Hardware keyboard
6) Built-in comprehensive voice navigation so third-party developers can take advantage of it (not an add-on app like Voice Command).
7) Media download service ala iTunes (In other words, Zune integration)
8) Tegra, Snapdragon, nVidia or whatever CPU
9) Heavy-duty construction like X1 or original iPhone.
I probably won't buy another SE phone though. After the X1, it seems SE started going downhill and are showing no signs of improvement (X2 and X10 for example). I will probably get something HTC (an HD2 with keyboard that works with U.S. AT&T would be nice), unless Apple releases an iPhone with keyboard, multitasking and WVGA screen
X1 now but wait for X10 when is out....
I am waiting for a high end Android device with AT&T 3G support to come out. My X1 is so frustrating. My battery drains to about 40% then just dies like the battery is empty.

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