I know, i know...there has been said soooo much about the possible ROM-update voor X1 from wm 6.1 to wm 6.5....but there is just still is a bit of a bluh-feeling about the xperia not getting a final boost in performance/experience!
Not one person i know woth a x1 is going to buy the x2, and everyone i know with another phone, and everyone i read about on the net is looking at other phones! the X2 is bound to be a huge flop, simply because they (SE) are running behind! Everyone i know is talking about the HD2 woth its huge screen, or the omnia 2 with its huge screen and bright colors...the iphone is still hot with its huge screen, so is the touch pro 2, the hero, and even the Acer is getting ooohs and aaaahs!!!
And sony is coming with the X2? just compare all those hot phones with the xperia 2....not a great comparison IMHO!
N o, what i think what should be done, is to make the X1-fans more happy with their phone than they ever been, make the product really what it should be...skip the X2...and focus an the x3...(wich should be the true X2)
And because SE isn't doing anything right now about that, i would ask everyone who has the most cleanest wm 6.5 rom to link to the right thread, so any of the new(unexperienced) users can find a way to use their phones as they were brand new!
am with you
looked around for a x1 update to found some clean roms just dont know if its all worth it am not buying the x2 for all you know when we get the x2 the x3 will be out in afew months
pls let me know if you find a 6.5 se update for the x1
The SE rachael is now officially labeled the X10, not X3 anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028
Personally I'm shooting for Rachel. I am jumping off the Windows Mobile train.
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Hi,
Im new here and this is my first post Just bought a TD a few days ago and I must say Im not disappointed. Ive had more than 50 different phones earlier - mostly Nokia and SE. Ive also had a Viewty and Iphone but I must say this TD really blew me away. Ive had one HTC but not for too long som Im pretty new to Windows Mobile.
Now to my question. Does anyone know of an application with a pair of dices that roll when you shake the phone? I know I have seen it before - perhaps it was on the iphone?? The reason I am asking is that I often go to parties and we always forget dices.. would be cool to have them on the phone then
Hope you can help me
Regards
Yesbar
Quick question, just out of curiosity
I think I will, but I will still keep my faithful X1
paint issues and cracks on version 1, then to bring version 2 with nothing new except for 8.1 mp cam and autorotate why should I? I love my x1 but that does not mean i am totally satisfied with it, if I get one for free to blog about or advertise yea i will get one, but i am not paying that kinda cash for the x2...the keyboard looks usable, but its ugly as sin, the only sexiness on it is the screen and the back of the device...i will switch to htc, then maybe wait later for the x5 or the next version with winmo 7
If its going to be laggy and slow then its a no.
But i will wait until i read some reviews and see it when its been released to see if it is good enough
A waste of money.. better wait 1 or 2 years for windows 7+ phones those will be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more powerfull.
HTC made the X1 so theres no way im going to move across and buy any of their junk after the mess they made of the x1. (my bro had an HTC phone a while back and that was terrible too so i shoulda known better!) The X2 is made by sony so ill give it a lot of consideration. so far its looking promising.
sony always do a few updates to a series of phones p800-p900 > p910-990 > p1i so anyone expecting a completely different phone is going to be sorely dissapointed and obviously doesnt know how sony operate. maybe they should of named the X2 the X1.5? lol
Chaosstorm said:
A waste of money.. better wait 1 or 2 years for windows 7+ phones those will be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more powerfull.
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okay, you wait two years without getting a new phone
hell NO! NO WAY!!
Yes.
X2 has a lot of upgrades and improvements over X1.
Plus for me a much better design.
Addictionally it will be on WM 6.5.
As X1 looks great, on photos X2 looks 2 times better.
IMO of course.
For sure I'll take the X2 !
Many users complain about the X1. Ok it's not perfect.
If I take an example with other SE phones, the K750i (first SE photophone with autofocus) was also very buggy and it's hardware was not ok either (joystick and camera lens problems). But the next K series were just fine.
So I hope thy will also drastically improve the quality of the X series. I am happy with my X1, but it's very perfectible. The X2 seems to have all the features missing to the X1, so I'll get it for sure.
Nope, I don't buy ****ty devices.
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Nope, I don't buy ****ty devices.
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Blah blah blah.
Not with the same slow ass processor and weak unsupported chipset. Thats the only thing I want improved from the X1.
I will probaly not go with the X2 this time around because:
1) My X1 continues to serve my needs
2) The X2, while having some very nice new features, will be too expensive for me to buy so soon
3) XDA Developer support of the X1 means we may see some X2 features on the X1
I'm really waiting for a killer Android handset. I have Windows Mobile fatigue, but I don't want an iPhone or Pre or Symbian device.
I think X2 is what X1 is supposed to be...price probably will be high...let's see first when it is release...observe for a couple of weeks or months...
X1 lack of support on SE...we'll see about X2
if i get one free as a replacement for my x1 i will happly have it as it is better than the x1 but not better enough for me to pay £500+ when i already have a x1.
Well, to me most important is whether any of the cooks will buy the X2. Cos if not, guess that's bye bye to the cooked ROMs for the X2. Unless we donate to the cooks to get them a X2 and ask them to cook for us (assuming they are willing to). Anyway, guess that's still early to be saying.
SE should drop Windows Mobile ENTIRELY - it's an architecturally crap OS, impossible to fix.
Give me an Android X2/X3 and I'll be all over it.
Hell, no way this was the last mistake I've made with SE devices, too expensive not worth it!!!!
I 'll stick back to HTC...
No, because nokia N900 come soon ^^
And I want keep X1, N900, and I'll buy the X3
Wm, linux, androïd... Yeah lol
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Nope, I don't buy ****ty devices.
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dude... u bought the x1... u fail
Hi everyone.I'm really new to this posting, but i have a major problem.I got myself a prototype of the xperia x2.It wasn't working very smooth so i did a hard reset(total wipeout).and now windows mobile 6.5 is working but no camera no nothing,no panels.so the drivers are missing.If anyone has an idea or could help me somehow please do.thank you.
There are no Xperia 2 ROM dumps available yet.
May I ask how you got your prototype?
You may have to go back to the source to get it straightened out.
X2 won't be out too soon, i guess. X1 needed also around 10 months from its announcement to its release.
Well, here in Germany some people think that it will be out with the launch of WM6.5, but this cannot be true. 6.5 comes in October and X2 isn't even listed at Amazon, yet.
I'm using the phone now it's working well,with WM 6.5,only problem is camera working only with a program(camera key not working)but everything(wifi,gps,etc)working.I'm so sorry about the hard reset it had panels and everything.I don't know, guess i'll be waiting until someone dumps a rom that i can usecan't do nothing yet.thank you anyway.AA and Xperia X2 is ok,but battery could be better (this is a prototype) so we'll see if the official version will last longer.
X2 Silver
X2 Black
848.- CHF (562.67€)
early december....
I have X2 black with silver keyboard.so no official firmware till december?I'm stuck with this prototype still full of bugs.after this stupid hard reset,no panels,no good camera.not good.but maybe i'll sell it to somebody
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I have X2 black with silver keyboard.so no official firmware till december?I'm stuck with this prototype still full of bugs.after this stupid hard reset,no panels,no good camera.not good.but maybe i'll sell it to somebody
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If you're selling, i'm interested
Just let me know
Anyone who wants the prototype make me an offer.it's for sale.i guarantee it works ok.only the drivers are missing
Note: People that have had the X1 prototype have had problem to flash them with final ROM.
Can someone walk this guy through making a ROM dump? I think we would all benefit from this, and maybe even fix some of his issues.
if he sells it to me, i will dump the rom and upload it as soon as possible...
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Hi everyone.I'm really new to this posting, but i have a major problem.I got myself a prototype of the xperia x2.It wasn't working very smooth so i did a hard reset(total wipeout).and now windows mobile 6.5 is working but no camera no nothing,no panels.so the drivers are missing.If anyone has an idea or could help me somehow please do.thank you.
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Here are the panel manager and the City Day panel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563098
I don't know if it'll work, but maybe try using the X1 ROM dump directions to dump your ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462926
It would be a great advancement if you could dump X2 rom
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Note: People that have had the X1 prototype have had problem to flash them with final ROM.
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This is not true. I have had 4 different prototypes of X1i and all have updated with offical rom without any problems. I've got one till now (almost one year now).
Hello, i'm not english and very young so so sorry to detroy your language!
But i want to buy a WindowsPhone and I don't konw if i have to buy Xperia x2 or HTC HD 2 ! Who's the best for you? I love the physic keyboard on Xperia but the hardware appears to be old! Winmo 7 Will be possible on Xperia?
Help me please! I don't want to buy a bad product!
I think keep this phone for 2 years maxi!!
Thanks in advance
Given the two choices, get the HD2. The hardware is far superior than that of the X2. It has a much better chance of running WM7 than the X2 also, when/if that becomes possible.
Completely agree, go for Leo!
Just adding that with Leo you´ll have the plus of having this site magnific support
Okey Thanks for your reply! I Think test them and buy the HTC...
Thanks a lot!
how old are you then?
And i would get an acer m900
I'm 15!
and I think that the m900 is a bad phone :/
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and I think that the m900 is a bad phone :/
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Have to agree from the reviews i've read and it's just not HTC
Go for the HTC HD 2
It's real damage that the X2 have a bad processeur (525Mhz)
i have tried a few diffrent winmo phones from diffrent companies, acer/toshiba/HTC and HTC are leagues ahead of the competition, i sold my
TGO1 after a week and bought a hero lol
Go for the htc hd2 and hang out on xda!
The HD2 is the best phone but if your 15, dude i hope you have big hands!
LOL! Yes i've big hands
@mancsoulja: Android is better than WinMo ? Cause, the X10 comes with Snapdragon, so i can wait...
Android is good, the diffrence between winmo and android is on android everything works lol there are no errors, no force closes no issues what so ever that i have had with my winmo devices, everything just works first time every time, although i always seem to come back to winmo, i think the quality of software is much higher on winmo, u can get programs for everything, where as android is not so good software wise, they will and are catching up to windows but its your personal opinion
Okey, so i prefer WinMo, i think Android it's like iPhone OS... Not realy but I want a new thing.. So WinMo is perfect !
Witch WindowsPhone have 1Ghz and Physic keyboard ?
None to this date!
I am waiting for that too but don´t think we will see it till 2011 (hope I´m wrong...)
windows phone or windows CE phone
the only windows phone is this powered by xp http://www.xpphone.com/en/
Good hardware but it's a very big phone :/
Get the lg expo. sweet.
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Get the lg expo. sweet.
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Do you have it and does it have 1700/2100 3G?
eXpo: Can you confirm that he have!
SnapDragon 1Ghz?
Assistance slide? (for the keyboard)
5MP with flash?
Graphic accelerator?
How Many RAM ?
Thanks!
And i live in france... Is it avaible in my country?
Hi there, xda people!
I need some help with my decision. I'm looking for a smartphone with a big screen, Wi-Fi, 3G, good camera and a nice design. both of them are ok for my needs and the price doesn't matter. So wonder if you guys, the experts can tell me what the benefits of WP7 are and those of Android. And also: Xperia X10 in Black or in White
What also matters is the compatibility with a Mac and if the device is upgradeable easily and without hacking it.
in reply..
well i have an hd7. fine ill explain the lag of wp7:
1.no Bluetooth data transfer.
2.Zune integration.(every thing u need to sync to yo phone through that only)
3.no flash(of course we can get it by the next coming MANGO update)
4.very few apps on wp7 marketplace (& costs more).
5.u cant download anything except from marketplace.
6.no support for 3rd party applications,cant change ringtones,no themes( u wanna jailbreak it if so)
7.very poor battery life
best things:
very smooth OS,best touch experience ever.
& the display even
(so for myself hd7 is bad so im in hope of android for it )
as x10 is based on Donut.. better u buy Desire HD (froyo) or Xperia Play(gingerbird) as you are saying no problem about money.
for xperia play check this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_play-3608.php
for DHD:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
check these and then think of buying..
well good luck
I have owned the X10 before the HD7... and i hated it... first of all it doesnt have true multitouch, it only has dual touch... so only a few system apps pinch to zoom and so on.
Also the X10 now has android 2.1 not 1.6 like mentioned in the post earlier and is about to get 2.3.3 sometime in the next couple of months.
If i had my choice, i would go for the HD7 because of the bigger screen and the OS. I think android is one of the ugliest OS's ever to grace this planet. Everything from scrolling to basic functions sometime take forever (on the X10 anyway). But in the end it is Android and you can customize it to the way you want it.
After having bothi I'm happier with the HD7, you spend hours on Android trying to get it 'just right' (which it never is) but I find that WP7 suits me just fine and I really love the style and mechanics of the OS.
I had the x10 and it wasn't great, it is getting (got, not sure?) Gingerbread now but if your set on Android get the SE Arc or even the Desire HD, the Arc looks and feels better, software is still buggy. The Desire HD has more built in HTC apps, this can be good or bad depending on how you look at it!
Android always felt a but 'childish' to me, I don't know why, WP7 whilel locked down just feels more intuitive.
I'm sure I'll get murdered for saying this but is Mac compatibility is important why just not go for an... iphone...
the X10 is one of the worst Android handsets out there. Sony Erricson have their paws all over it meaning future updates are as and when SE feel like it, as it's SE's version of Android. There was a long period where SE basically said they were never updating it again after 2.1.
I'd recommend the Galaxy S 2 or the HTC Sensation, much, much better devices and not locked down to poor OS's that SE have ruined.
As for which OS i prefer, WP7 all the way. Much smoother and generally much quicker at getting things done.
I'll disagree with the first poster's poor battery life, I can get 2 days worth out of a full charge (but reconditioning the battery, i.e. draining it fully and recharging it is a must).
Also many points he mentioned are across the board for Android and Iphones as well, so not really a great comparison.
My girlfriend owns a X10 device, And Sony Ericsson are one of the worst for their customer support and updates going. (Motorola IMO being the worst, Ex-Milestone User Here)
HTC's Customer support is stunning, You can tell this from them locking their bootloaders on the Evo 3d. Thunderbolt. Sensation and Incredible S. HTC's customers replied in an outroar, and within 2 months they have decided to re-unlock their bootloaders, which proves they love their customers. And not one HTC phone from now on will be locked.
The X10's Are an ok phone, but its let down by the laggy Timescape UI added onto android, I believe in 1 Android Skin, Sense (The best of the skins) or A completely stock build of android. Touchwiz from samsung is ok, but its not quite there.
The locked bootloader is a let down too (Sure theres the kexec method) but its not completely open, so if you fancied a custom build rom, it would be suspectable to reboots etc if you used one. The HD7 has a unlocked bootloader, so when we get an android port, it will be fully custom and will have no reboots
Both have the same processor, but WP7 really takes advantage of the speed, I've used a HTC Desire with this processor on sense Android 2.2 and a HD7, and personally the speed is majorly different on each phone.
But i'm not biased to WP7, i've owned many android phones and I love the OS. Just Sony ericsson android phones are riddled with bugs and not one works just right. But I can't wait to replace my girlfriend's X10, She will be getting a 2nd gen windows phone, Because whatever people say, WP7 has been the nicest suprise of the year for me
I pre-ordered an HTC Sensation some days ago.
The HD7 will be put back into his box until WP7 becomes a more interesting experience.
I also would not step back to an old Android device like X10.
Regards
S