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GPS Crashing my tilt!!

I have a tilt with the HTC factory rom flashed on it. Everything has worked fine for the past few months, until I tried to use my tomtom software a few days ago. For some reason, it couldn't get a gps fix. Then, when I exited, everything froze up.
Now whenever ANYTHING accesses the gps functionality, it can't find a fix, and when I exit, nothing else will launch, and I'll have to do a soft reset. Everything else works fine unless I try and use the gps. What the hell!
Any insight?

You might need to hard reset or flash a new rom. This sounds similar to another problem recently sorted - try starting at this link.

I just did that 2 days ago! The only thing i installed was kaisertweak and tomtom! Nothing worked. So I tried installing other gps crap to see if that would work. So far, nothing.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a rom issue, because it didn't work AT ALL following a hard reset. :-/

Try another hard reset, but don't install anything other than TomTom (even KaiserTweak). If that doesn't work, then you need to contact AT&T for a replacement under warranty. Although that could be a problem if you are on T-Mobile like your profile says...

ok, so I reflashed AGAIN. And it didn't do much. However, it's not crashing anymore. Even though it's not crashing anymore, i'm still not able to get a gps fix. :-/ What now?

InGeNeTiCs said:
ok, so I reflashed AGAIN. And it didn't do much. However, it's not crashing anymore. Even though it's not crashing anymore, i'm still not able to get a gps fix. :-/ What now?
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Try flashing a new radio. Radios seem to have a direct relation to how fast (or slow) the Kaiser's GPS chip will get a fix.

Um how about trying another gps program.

ChumleyEX said:
Um how about trying another gps program.
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GPStest, tomtom, google maps, and live maps can't get a fix.
And I'm already on my 3rd radio. The first one worked fine, then it just stopped working. No new software, no rom changes, nothing. It just didn't work one day. Is there a way I can run some sort of diagnostic to check the functionality of the gps hardware itself?

InGeNeTiCs said:
GPStest, tomtom, google maps, and live maps can't get a fix.
And I'm already on my 3rd radio. The first one worked fine, then it just stopped working. No new software, no rom changes, nothing. It just didn't work one day. Is there a way I can run some sort of diagnostic to check the functionality of the gps hardware itself?
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Does Tomtom report:
"No GPS Device" or "No valid GPS signal"?
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With GPS test what port does it say it's using?
(ie without you changing it what does it initially say for the port?)
Mike

QuickGPS outdated no more fix

Hi all,
I try to search for such issue but no success.
So, quickGPS/GPS is working fine but need to d/l data from time to time. Pb is, when data are outdated and I have no way to upload new ones, my GPS won't get any fix at all. I can no longer use my GPS
Is this normal, do I need to deactive something (even if the fix takes longer) ??
Thanks for hints,
Gilles

Search for "Kaiser Tweak". If I recall correctly, there is a setting in there to fix broken QuickGPS settings that allows it to update properly.
Should then be able to get QuickGPS working leading to GPS working more efficiently...

QuickGPS updates work with no problem.
The problem is that you need "phone" connection for the update. Eg, I'm doing a trekking in the mountain, I'll never have the cell phone connection to update quickGPS data.
I need to use the GPS as standalone tools even with no phone connection
Question is : Can the Kaiser's GPS work if quickGPS data are outdated ? how ?

GPS works fine as a stand alone unit. It can take longer time to get your position when you use GPS without the fast GPS but it still works.

Yep I'm sure it will work if quickGPS is not installed. In my case quick GPS is installed, and when it's up to date I get the fix in few sec.
When it's not, I've waited more than 5mn with no results ... then I started to download quickGPS data and hop fix in few sec.
For me it's like that if quickGPS is not up to date it disables the GPS. Am I wrong ?
Is there a way to temporarly disable quickGPS ? at least I would get a fix even if it takes longers.

GPS working for a few seconds and then freezes/doesn't work?

So I've had my diamond for a about year now. Tried dozens of roms and settled for the mystery rom. (for those who don't know, mystery rom utilizes wm 6.5 with Touch Pro 2 Manila interface). I also have quickGPS updated every week or so.
Google maps and tomtom have been working flawlessly with the GPS up to about a couple days ago. Now I've been having problems with both programs (and probably any programs that uses the GPS) finding my location and freezing my phone.
So with google maps, what would happen is that I would tap "use GPS" and it would track my location in a few seconds. Then what happens is the blue dot with the direction arrow would turn into just a blue dot without the arrow. This is probably when the GPS suddenly fails and my location isn't being tracked anymore (sometimes this would freeze google maps and sometimes my whole phone and I would need to do a soft reset).
When it doesn't freeze, the GPS would not work until I do a soft reset and the same thing happens when I try again.
Same with Tomtom. It would say "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" (meaning that it recognizes the GPS device) and then after a couple seconds it would stay on "No GPS Found" and it would just stay like that.
Now, is this a hardware problem? even though it's happening pretty consistantly and I would think that it wouldn't work at all if it was something with the GPS hardware.
If it's a software problem, the only significant thing I've done since last week is install memmaid and delete some old files/caches. Could this affect my GPS at all if I accidently some specific old/temporary files?
If anyone has any insight into my problem, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Getting lost is not fun
Thanks!!

hi,
yap same problem here. i use a win6.5 rom and got this problem.
only a soft reset gives me a working gps - after 1 use (close program, open again) it freezes again and i have to soft reset again
any solutions??

HTC-GPS-Tool
Use the HTC_GPS_TOOL
The cab and instruction can be found here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3749102&postcount=86
may help

xperia X1 freeze when use GPS

Xperia X1 freeze. After 6 months I have problem with my xperia and gps. When I try to use internal GPS (whenever software), display freeze and I have to replace batery. I have tryied to flash another ROM, it works few hours and now I have same problem. Any ideas?

Hi,ok let´s see, like you ive had the same problem, just when i was using any gps navigator the phone suddendly stopped and that was sucking me a lot so after that i started to think what could be the problem, and at the end after a lot of time i found where was the problem and what was the solution. To find the solution i decided to hard reset the new rom with which all my gps problems started, and following the instalation steps of all programs and configurations i found the problem and this was related with the quick gps, before using this program to upgrade my gps location my mobile was runing tomtom and others without freezing, but after upgrade the gps location with the quick gps my mobile started to freeze. So this is the problem, just do this try to hard-reset and install eveything but dont, i repeat dont !!use the quick gps or this will freeze your phone again. Following this step your phone will run the gps navigators without the freeze problem
Then men after this try to do this and let me know (PLEAE) if your problem still remain ok? see u and hope you can solve this problem like me.

I too have just started having GPS problems as listed above!
The problem seems to be Quickgps...as soon as u run the quickgps update(which you may have on autodownload) Tomtom crashes and you have to reboot the phone...
I have reinstalled a different rom since and still have the same problem!
i dont know if there is a cache for this program that can be cleared or something other than reflashing the device
As the days go on and the 7 day update starts running out im guessing more people will start having the same problems!mine happened 28/10/09 evening time!

Same problem: freezing XPERIA when using GPS!
Yesterday I connected my X1 to the PC and got the latest Quick GPS update. Today I'll need to use my gps for a trip... Wanted to prepare the navigator and got the same problem like you guys.
Probably something wrong with the last update since I have not installed anything nor updated the firmware.
Is there any way to get any older version of the quick gps? Before after each 7 days period, it was possible still to use the GPS. Even though it was much slower but in the end it always works before updating... Will a hard reset give me an old version of Quick GPS?
This is so annoying at this moment. Hope somebody find a solution fast.

Hi all,
Got the very same problem yesterday.
I tought the GPS HW had gone. I have uninstalled the Route 66 SW, but there are some files that still lay in the phone.
Then re-install everything from scracth, but problem remains. Now i know i a GPS. Could be worse if was a HW problem in the phone.

Possible solution
Hi
I have maybe same problem with other phone (HTC Rose). If any application try to connect to GPS, phone freezes. After Hard Reset it was OK, but only until I use QuickGPS. Then it again freeze whole mobile after use GPS application.
My temporary solution:
1.
Erase QuickGPS data. Simply delete 2 files: Temp\xtra.bin and Windows\xtra.bin
2.
Soft Reset phone.
Try it, and let me know.

working so far...
Thank you motaba.
I did what you proposed and erased the files. It worked actually.
I have been running my gps now for some minutes and it did not freeze. It found the signal and started to navigate without freezing.
So at first glance it seems to work. I will try it further and tell you all about further information.
but how can the gps work so fast and well without these quickgps files? are they totally redundant?
Greetings

Thanks a lot motaba.
Works for me as well.
As yes, it got the location pretty fast without the "A GPS mambojambo"
I was gettin 8-9 statelites.
P.S: Anyone can tell me were to get TomTom 7 for X1 ? Route 66 is pretty anoying some times....

X1 GPS
After deleting the fails xtra.bin my gps start to work for now, but I want to ask do I have to use quickGPS update if I update the gps from there the problem will be start again

Yes delete xtra.bin helps!!!
Does anyone has older version of quick gps. I still want to use quick gps, becasus waiting for gps to fix is annoying. thanks

Hi all,
After deleting the xtra files and confirm that works i went out, and during the driving i used the GPS.
Even went going out of the car and switching GPS programm off, as soon as i got back into the car and switch programm on, the GPS location came so quick that was unbeleivable. Only time to switch it on , put it into the older start the car and when i look into it, was already navigating.
So my advice is FORGET about Quick GPS.
I think ESA as lunched a new GPS satellite for the European system, I wonder if has anything to do with with it. ??? Anyway it's great !!!

No, ESA satellites are not primary GPS satellites. They provide WAAS/EGNOS correction info only. AFAIK Xperia does not support correction, so it does not work with these satellites at all.
The problem could be with QuickGPS data. Many users started to have the problem at the same time. It seems xperia uses QuickGPS if they are available. So any corruption on QuickGPS side makes GPS unusable.
Sometimes just forced QuickGPS reload helps .. but sometimes not, and that's when the trick with xtra.bin comes handy.

Thank you all in this awesome forum. Deleting the xtra.bin files solved the problem for me. Even the time to log the gps position seems not really to be slower in my case

Hi Dr Sid
Thanks for the explanation.
My point was that the xtra.bin removal works, and after i did that the GPS position was found very very quickly without starting Quick GPS.
I wonder why because, before it would take 10 minutes or more, if quick GPS was not used.

Summer time change?
Hi
I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"

THANKYOU SO MUCH!!
This has been driving me crazy!! I have only just learned to put ROM's on my phone and this is when the problems started, so I suspected the ROM's was causing the problem.
Deleted the 2 files and now my GPS works perfectly.
Excellent fix, saved me so much time.

THANKS THANKS THANKS !!!!!!
Works for me too (Buenos Aires - Argentina).

motaba said:
Hi
I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"
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It's very probable that this is the problem, since I have it since a few days also. But it's strange, last time change I had no problems with it.

hehe, a bit slow to find this thread
yep the quickgps data is corrupt somehow.
took me a lot of reboots to find this out.
A-GPS still works just try running google maps with GPS turned OFF!! you get a rough idea of where your are.
QuickGPS gives a weeks calcutions of predicted GPS satalite locations which can then be used to reduce the cold-boot gps startup time.
If you live near the coast at all, your GPS chip will also pickup the land based stations that broadcast static information which helps in the accuacy of location.
It is quite possible to live without QuickGPS, it just makes the startup time anything upto 2 minutes.
However, with quickgps being used for so many phones, it should not be too long before its all fixed again

It's just pity it can't be disabled by some normal means. If you delete the file, QuickGPS will load it back next week.
Also it could try to compare data from the file with data from the satellite. If different satellites are visible than those which should be visible based on the file, than GPS could realize something is wrong. It does not.

GPS Waiting for signal... stuck forever.. whats wrong?

I installed iGO8 and now all my GPS, Garmin, Google maps dont work..
It just gets stuck at waiting for GPS signal...
What's wrong? It was a clear blue sky out door when I checked this too..

Mmm sounds familiar. I upgraded my X1 firmware to the stock R3A rom (last weekend) and had this trouble with iGO8.3 (or TechrificWay which is the local Australian version) after re-installing all my apps. Had the same problems with Google Maps. Thought the GPS was crook. I was just about to do a hard reset and re-install but decided to try my old Copilot Live 7 software and everything worked fine. So un-installed iGO8.3 and re-installed and everything worked fine. If I think about it I might have un-installed iGO8 before I installed CPL7, not sure. Anyway everything has worked fine since.
Perhaps worth a try?

Same problem here on my fuze.
I had to wait many mins nearly 30mins to get the signal and if lil miss, again 30mins.
I'm using garmin and not sure about others. I tried many radio versions but still same.
BTW; sorry for posting in wrong device section but I found a nice thread here which could help.
Best Regards

I actually have 2 GPS on my sd card atm, could this be the problem?

I don't think so, unless both aren't running in background.
Checkout in FdcSoft Taskmgr if there are.....
Best Regards

Im gonna try uninstall everything, delete darmin off of sd card, and renstall igo. will post back

ok, so i uninstalled everything and was only left with google maps. no igo or garmin. so i tried too use google maps with gps, and even google maps coudnt even work. it said it cant find the gps receiver.. how can i turn it back on? could it be my reg setting, i make gprs disconnect after 2 mins?

Ive tried using manual com using baud rate 4800 and all kinds of combinations.
It would say "intializing GPS..." then it would come up with no GPS receiver found.. whats wrong??

Ive tried using manual com using baud rate 4800 and all kinds of combinations.
It would say "intializing GPS..." then it would come up with no GPS receiver found.. whats wrong??

I had a problem a few weeks ago when I couldn't get GPS to work (in Google Maps and CoPilot Live 8).
It turns out that my QuickGPS data has expired (somehow it got set to manual download). Updating the data and setting QuickGPS to update automatically made everything work normally.
In Advanced Config Tool, there is an option to turn on aGPS. I have mine set to "ON" even though I don't know if this has any effect on the X1.

Yep, Ive already turned on everything A-GPS, GPRS all settings on, tried google maps, everything again.. Nothing seems to work and it keeps coming up with No GPS receiver found although I checked if my GPS builtin is actually defective by running GPSGate2 and testing my builtin GPS. GPS said it reads ok.. so what is the problem.. its really annoying.. it ruined my anniversary 6month with my gf

^^^ You still didn't mention running QuickGPS...?

Yeah, done that too. Countless times...