I am about to try cooked ROM as Dutty's, but there is one thing which is unclear.
If I flash a ROM without Radio (as Dutty's..) shall I reflash a Radio ROM also, or is present Radio ROM respected ?
In the first case, where can I download official Radio ROM ? (french one in my case) ?
Forgive me if I have overlooked something, but I have not seen these answer clearly stated somewhere.
Logan5 said:
I am about to try cooked ROM as Dutty's, but there is one thing which is unclear.
If I flash a ROM without Radio (as Dutty's..) shall I reflash a Radio ROM also, or is present Radio ROM respected ?
In the first case, where can I download official Radio ROM ? (french one in my case) ?
Forgive me if I have overlooked something, but I have not seen these answer clearly stated somewhere.
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Its a good question I will edit my thread when i reach home later.
If you flash a rom without radio ur existing radio on ur device remains intact, only advise is whenenver u flash a new rom always hard reset afterwrads
Thanks for your answer Dutty. This is clear now.
Also, if you flash a Radio without flashing a ROM, so long as you use the Blackstone Custom RUU, the device won't perform a Hard Reset.
Ta
Dave
Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio
Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?
Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.
another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?
Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......
As above, continue on dummies guide
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Before i put back the original spl and my ROM that i got with the phone i thought i should ask if anyone have an idea of what has gone wrong with my phone.
Right now i have HSPL on my phone, i think the name is 1.56 olinex, my radio is 1.14 and my ROM is kwbr topix 3.5 WM 6.1
Over the last months i have tried at leas 20 different cooked ROMS but the always end up with some kind of problem that i did not have before. The phone hangs, the wifi dont work, i can have a ROM on for a week without a problem, sometimes just an hour.I have read every thread there is about it, but i dont find any solution. I do perform task 29 prior to flashing, i have flashed back my original ROM, downloaded from HTC and tried to install a cooked ROM after that, but it doesnt help, the problems are the same.
I can mention that i dont have those problem when i have my orignal ROM on( the one that i have downloaded from HTC).
I would be very glad if anybody could help me cause i dont want my stock ROM back, its so boring.
Thank you for listening.
Forca
did you perfom 2 hard resets after flashing?
Flash a stock rom and see if that helps..
alchopop said:
great, so whats the actual problem?
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The biggest problem, in my opinion is that the phone hangs, (turns off itself) and the wifi dont work. But maybe its just something that happens to everybody that is not using the stock ROM or am i wrong there.
Forca
alchopop said:
did you perfom 2 hard resets after flashing?
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Yes, sometimes 3
mwaldi3 said:
Flash a stock rom and see if that helps..
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Just to make things clear here, when everybody it talking about that it could help flashing a stock rom before you flash a custom rom, do you then mean install the rom that you download from HTC, or a stock rom that you can find in the forums here. The thing is with the stock rom from HTC you dont have to put the phone in its bootloader to flash. If the answer is that i should flash a stock rom that i can find here in the wiki, what rom should i use then, there are like 30 different ones.
Forca
Here is an other question about stock ROMS. Does anybody know if there is a stock ROM with color icons and the my location function? Do i have to have HSPL or USPL on my phone to but a stock rom on it, or does it work with the original SPL.
Forca
I would recommend performing a task 29, then flashing a stock rom from the wiki on these forums. Once flashed then reflash a custom rom. Let us know how you get on. Also, not to point out the obvious, ensure you having matching SPL with rom
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I would recommend performing a task 29, then flashing a stock rom from the wiki on these forums. Once flashed then reflash a custom rom. Let us know how you get on. Also, not to point out the obvious, ensure you having matching SPL with rom
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When i set my phone to bootloader it says: SPL-l.56.olinex and the ROM i am using is :Topix 3.5 WM6.1 Manila 2.1 Sense weather.Found here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632.How do i know if they are compatible? What ROMS can i use and what ROMS can i not use with my current SPL.
Forca
Forcavitale said:
When i set my phone to bootloader it says: SPL-l.56.olinex and the ROM i am using is :Topix 3.5 WM6.1 Manila 2.1 Sense weather.Found here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592632.How do i know if they are compatible? What ROMS can i use and what ROMS can i not use with my current SPL.
Forca
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Its wm6.5 so would have a base of 1.56+ which is compatible with your SPL. All roms based on 1.56+ are compatible with HSPL 1.56
As I mentioned earlier, try a task 29 and restore stock rom from wiki, then reflash custom rom. Also, try and make sure that your radio and rilphone match. Should improve signal/reception and possibly performance
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Its wm6.5 so would have a base of 1.56+ which is compatible with your SPL. All roms based on 1.56+ are compatible with HSPL 1.56
As I mentioned earlier, try a task 29 and restore stock rom from wiki, then reflash custom rom. Also, try and make sure that your radio and rilphone match. Should improve signal/reception and possibly performance
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Thank you for helping a noob out here One more noobish question, how do i know if the rilphone and the radio match?Right now i have the radio 1.14 and i found this cab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610927, i am not sure if the match, but if the dont what do i look for when i want to download the rilphone file?
Hi. Seems like the only thing you haven't tried is the reapply the HSPL. I've heard that it can sometimes get screwed up and this may account for the problems you're having. Obviously applying the HSPL is risky because if it goes wrong you have yourself an expensive waper weight. Good luck.
Just to get it right, when i flash a stock ROM do i have to wait until its completely installed(i mean booting up installing windows, setting time and date), until i flash my custom ROM or can i just pull out the battery when the smart mobility shows up
Forca
Hmmm.... I'm using USPL with no problems, so it's not necessary to have HSPL on your phone (depending on ROM).
I used USPL with Topix 3.5 WM 6.1 weather sense, so there should be no problem too.
Normally I do HR when ROM shows alignment screen.
Ah, yes... and I flash stock ROM from HTC site....
Bodisson said:
Hmmm.... I'm using USPL with no problems, so it's not necessary to have HSPL on your phone (depending on ROM).
I used USPL with Topix 3.5 WM 6.1 weather sense, so there should be no problem too.
Normally I do HR when ROM shows alignment screen.
Ah, yes... and I flash stock ROM from HTC site....
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So in other words it could work to flash my old original rom with the original radio on, undo my HSPL to the original SPL, then get USPL on the phone and flash Topix 3,5?
Forca
Fallen Spartan said:
I would recommend performing a task 29, then flashing a stock rom from the wiki on these forums. Once flashed then reflash a custom rom. Let us know how you get on. Also, not to point out the obvious, ensure you having matching SPL with rom
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Alright i did what you recommended last night; flashed swedish stock ROM with radio 1.13, performed task 29, flashed Topix 3.5 with Windows 6.1 and sense weather, hard reset 2 time.
1 Wifi dont work, when i turn it on, it turns off, i then install the my location rilphone cab that i mentioned, and start up the phone again, now it works.
In the morning when i am writing this, it still works.
Will keep you updated once a day here.
Forca
Forcavitale said:
Alright i did what you recommended last night; flashed swedish stock ROM, performed task 29, flashed Topix 3.5 with Windows 6.1 and sense weather, hard reset 2 time.
1 Wifi dont work, when i turn it on, it turns off, i then install the my location rilphone cab that i mentioned, and start up the phone again, now it works.
In the morning when i am writing this, it still works.
Will keep you updated once a day here.
Forca
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One more thing to try with the WiFi to make it work
Go to Comm manager in settings and make sure that WiFi is OFF
Switch OFF the phone (not soft reset but switch it OFF so that it shuts down all processes properly
Reboot the phone after 10 seconds
Switch on WiFi and see if that cures your problem
I have noticed sometimes after a soft reset my WiFi dosent work but switching off forces it reset itself
Hope that helps
alchopop said:
One more thing to try with the WiFi to make it work
Go to Comm manager in settings and make sure that WiFi is OFF
Switch OFF the phone (not soft reset but switch it OFF so that it shuts down all processes properly
Reboot the phone after 10 seconds
Switch on WiFi and see if that cures your problem
I have noticed sometimes after a soft reset my WiFi dosent work but switching off forces it reset itself
Hope that helps
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Exactly what i have noticed too, Flashed a ROM a few days ago, wifi dont work, i dont do anything but turning the phone off and on again and i works.
Am i using the right rilphone for my radio 1.13? i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610927 i use the rilphone my location cab in this post.
Mmmm.... maybe you should update to Radio 1.14... I was not satisfied at all with 1.13...
And most cooks have habit of cooking rilphone in their ROMs, but not radio...
So far I found that rilphone 1.14 works with almost any radio.
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Mmmm.... maybe you should update to Radio 1.14... I was not satisfied at all with 1.13...
And most cooks have habit of cooking rilphone in their ROMs, but not radio...
So far I found that rilphone 1.14 works with almost any radio.
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In fact the only reason i have radio1.13 on is cause it came along with my stock rom
Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....
First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.
1. I installed HardSPL
2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM
3. I did not installed Radio.
1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio? - the phone works just fine.
Second question: Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?
Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.
rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL
You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.
Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.
Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.
Once you have Hard spl it is done.
You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once
No and No.
Thank you guys.
The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.
A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.
As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).