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Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...
Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:
HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners
Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!
I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.
That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom
Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.
Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ
Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!
sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!
My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ
i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!
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(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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I flashed my MDA about a week ago, and thanks to this forum (everybody), and XCPUScalar, I have a unit that boots up a full 80 seconds faster (from about 190) runs substantially faster, like getting immediate response from Pocket Informant instead of waiting 8 or so seconds, and has needed no soft-resetting since I upgraded (although one should do it on occaision, so I do). I have installed about 35 apps, and that process was cut from a few hours to less than two (with distractions).
I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed.
Did I mention I'm a newbie? And if you haven't done this yet and you're having a hard time finding instructions, there all in the installation file, just make your backups and jump in, but make sure you have the right ROM/hardware combo and phone service.
Is a MDA the same as a Cingular 8125?
Which ROM did you use?
What did you use to backup?
I'm a newbie also. I want to do this. I've been reading this forum for 2 weeks. I still don't have much of a clue. If I was certain that I could get back to where I am if I screwed up, I'd be more willing to "jump in". I have flashed routers before so it's not totally foreign to me.
Thanks for any help/advice that you are kind enough to throw my way,
Porter
Which ROM is this?
Yes. Could you identify this marvelous ROM?
yes, i love her, too.
Since I've not heard about an update to XCPUScalar which supports OMAP processors, I think this guy has got the wrong forum.
you say you love the rom! But which ****ing rom do you mean exactly?
Sorry. T-mobile USA 2.24 Custom ROM
Here's the link that got me there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300&highlight=tmobile+motorola
There is another ROM for other service providers (Cingular) that I hear is just like this one but has a higher number, like 3.x. There is a link in the thread on page 7 or so. ??? There is also a newer version of the T-Mo USA ROM available, but I can't reflect on that.
The MDA also goes by the Name MDA vario, Qtek 1900 (I think), and Wizard. I don't know of any other names. I learned this by searching for leather cases on Ebay. The pictures said it all. I highly recommend being sure you know all the names, particularly the HTC name, of your unit before trying to tell it with a new ROM what model it is. If they don't match, you could mess up irreparably, although there are developers here who might argue about the irreparable part, I don't have the skills or time they do.
Read, be sure it all matches, and *then* thake the plunge!
Hey, the XCPU Scalar works. ???
I am one of those people who is willing to try unheard-of things. ImmierSoft made my MDA go faster, I don't particularly care how.
And I'm not a guy.
XCPUScalar uses a different processor than what the Wizard uses. Unless you are imagining things, you are probably using a ppc other than the Wizard.
Did it not appear that I understood...
... the processor types were different? It's not helpful to be condescending for you or for the person you're talking to. It's Immiersoft's XCPUScalar, and a T-Mobile MDA (US), which is the Wizard. There are certain things I can do woth the software to make the unit crash.
"There was a little girl who said why
can't I see my ear with my eye
I'm sure I cn do it
if I put my mind to it
You never do know til you try!"
Why so negative?
I'm signing off of this forum
I'm pretty fed up with the lack of social skills on this forum, particularly the moderators. I personally can't afford to risk/try this kind of hard work at this point in my life. If you have further questions, please search the forum, there are likely some sort of answers to your question. (e.g. looking up the latest ROMs for your model to see what's available to you rather than asking me what I'm talking about. thanks all for your interst and time!
...nevermind...
Janis, if you have a Wizard (and not, for example, a Magician - check the pics on the forum index) then XCPUScalar has no effect on your processor speed. I checked their website, and they still do not support OMAP processors. XCPUScalar is designed for (Intel) XScale processors (and one other type, which escapes me) - it is not a generic ARM overclocker. So far, only OMAPclock is able to overclock the OMAP processor in the Wizard.
I also think some people on this forum should grow up and stop acting like children when someone says something they don't like, or in a manner they do not like. I don't see your reasoning, Janis, behind "spitting the dummy out" when someone wants to know what exactly you are talking about when you start a brand new thread with no reference to anything solid in the body of it.
What is funny though, the first post of Janis contained comments and 1 question:
"I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed."
Maybe one of you "experts" could try to answer or help on that one........
wifi problem
i just upgraded to the Tmobile 2.26 ROM and also have the same wifi problem... my wifi wont connect to my dlink 900AP access point. It was working fine before the upgrade. Any ideas? Thanks
Not sure if this is the case, but I'll give it a shot.
If you just upgraded your ROM, I believe it wipes out any registry settings you had previously changed.
In the case of a wifi network, if you're running an 802.11g-only network then you will have to go back in to the registry of your Wizard and enable 802.11g on the Wizard for it to connect.
You'll also need to re-enter any network keys as they were wiped out as well.
Like i said the processor for XCPUScalar is for XScale, not OMAP (which is what the Wizard uses). I'm sorry if you took my comment in the wrong manner and took it personally.
As for the question in your original post, well check to see which network you are on (G, B, or mixed). The Wizard is originally set on B without registry changes (unless T-Mobile fixed this). If you have set your wireless network setup with a password, try setting up your network without a password just to confirm if a connection can be made and your problem is a security issue. If that doesn't work, I find that making registry changes to the MDA for a G connection works perfectly whenever I try this. Just make sure you set your router on the G network and try again. Also try to set you wireless connections on your phone to performance and see if that changes anything.
And for the others don't judge me. How many times have I asked for help and got no response or a negative one. I don't even recall ever getting a thankyou for helping anyone on this site. Everyone tends to ask for help then I never hear from them again. Sound familiar? I thought so.
I decided to edit out my venting ... doesn't do any good ...
btw, I agree that you should check out your registry settings regarding the WiFi.....
"Hey guys, this ROM is great!!"
"Which ROM?"
"**** you!!"
I have owned my Tilt for about 7 months and have always stuck with the stock ROMs. Extremely poor signal strength in my area has led me to try new radios, which, basically, entailed that I go all in on the ROMs. Ultimately, I had to revert to the current WM6.0 AT&T Stock ROM because there were just too many problems.
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
1) HardSPL - Jaberwok has a solution for the White Screen. One of the MIDDLE powered-on steps is to remove your SIM and SD Cards. It is not possible on a Tilt (at least) to remove the sim while the unit is on. I would respectfully as that Jaberwok update his Page 1 to clarify when the SIM Card should be removed. As a note, the problem is that if you unlock the sim card slot the unit freezes and tells you it will reboot when you lock it. If you leave it unlocked the unit wont boot. If there the SIM card really needs to be out, it would be great if the instructions were reshuffled so that they don't give the impression that the SIM card is to be removed from any state other than a power off, with the door of the empty chamber locked.
2) AT&T Settings - I had decided to settle on Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM as it seemed to be one of the newer ones. The AT&T connectivity customization which runs was not correct (for the United States at least). The web might connect ok via MEdia Net, but nothing else would - preferring to go to ISP (which had isp.cingular). Attempting to change these settings to mirror the Stock AT&T settings did not provide any relief. There was no way to check messages. Perhaps part of the Wiki could explain how to take anyone's custom ROM, and get it to work on the AT&T network. Checking messages would result in a "dialing error" (no matter whether the advanced connection settings were set to MEdia Net for all uses, or the values were changed to mirror the wap.cingular settings).
3) Diamond - The master ROM sticky from the Wiki is a great resource. I was afraid to try Dutty's Diamond ROM because I had no idea if Diamond was a new phone, which would then cause me to brick mine.
4) Hard Resets - All of the installation instructions, whether on the individual cooker's Post 1, or in the Rom Wiki, are fairly inconsistent on when a Hard Reset is needed. Many posts on the forum indicate Problem X -> oh did you hard reset -> yeah that worked. An example of the vagueness is: Should I hard reset before I flash HardSPL? before I flash a Radio? before a flash a ROM? and then all of the above but using "after". Unless you are a cook, cooking your favorite apps into a rom, a Hard Reset is an awful bitter pill. If there are steps which do not require a Hard Reset, it would be of great benefit to know those.
5) Radio - Would love to know if I can flash a radio without a Hard Reset afterwards. Would also love to know if I can flash a radio into the stock AT&T ROM.
6) HardSPL Post 1 - Would love to see a line about whether you need to do anything different if you already have a different HardSPL installed.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
Of course, if anyone out there is also honestly willing to help with the underlying problem, I would love for some help ... I just want to get the best radio I can on my phone. If there is a ROM out there which is right for the AT&T Tilt (meaning, the AT&T connectivity settings are correct, and the keyboard is properly mapped), which has a better radio, I would dearly love to know about it.
Thanks for reading.
Re Hard resets.
Most cooked roms require you to do an additional hard reset after the device has been flashed and restarted.
This is simply something that people have learnt from experience.
The only other times you hard reset after:
1) Phone simply won't respond after trying everything
2) You've installed something and it has screwed your settings beyond any chance of recovery
3) Your rom has got cluttered after loads of installs and uninstalls... and you need to "clean" your rom but still want to keep the same one.
(But I agree that "first post" maintenance would be really handy - but the rom chefs are busy cooking - someone else should volunteer to update their first three posts.
OK But to Start all my answers were learned FROM reading and searching. Just FYI.
1) I can't really answer this. I didn't have the write screen problem.
2) If I recall correctly just about the majority of people here use MEdiaNet for their connection. There are a couple people I remember saying that they use the ISP, and they just simply changed the setting manually. If you get it to work, I'd be happy to help you create a CAB for it.
3) Rest assured that even though the Diamond is a new phone if the ROM is posted in the Kaiser Forum. Its "ok to use it on your phone. If you are worried you can wait until a couple people try it and say "This Works great" Then you can look at their signature and see they are using a Kaiser.
4) The most common answer it After a ROM flash right at when you See the "Tap to Begin" Screen.
5) I never Hard Reset after I flash a radio. I flash so much though. People recommend you flash the radio first, I've done it both ways. I Personally don't notice a difference. Questions about What radio will work with Stock AT&T ROMs, Which I believe are still WM 6.0, are toroughly answered in AllTheWays Ultimate radio Thread.
6) That would be nice. Would get more notice by the Ones in the KNow about those things if this qustion was posting in that specific thread.
7) Anyone should feel free to edit and add to the WIKI.
8) IIRC shogunmark's Death is an AT&T Tilt based ROM. But the Tytn II based Roms work fine on the Tilt. You just have to install the Tilt Keyboard Fix and Soft Reset.
jdmba said:
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
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I too have been a Tilt owner for 8 months, first came across this site last Nov. At that point, the Kaiser forum consisted of speculation on when the Tilt would appear in the US. I was a lurker for 6 months before I joined and posted my first question. Until then I searched ( Forum and Google ) for all my info and never, I mean never did I not find an answer to my questions.
Yes it took time and perseverance but the information was ALWAYS there.I will steadfastly stand here and argue with anyone who says " I searched and found nothing " and tell them " you searched, got bored, it was too much trouble, and you wanted instant gratification ", that is why you are posting. ( Except genuine questions on newly released items ).
That is the real reason why it is so difficult to search. Redundant posts and lazy people who think their time is too valuable to search. Want an example?
JimmyMcGee, over 1000 posts, 0 new threads
Harkadenn, 330 posts over forty new threads, 36 in one month alone, before he finally sold his phone. He had a problem, started a thread
One person, multiply that times 1000 people who think that we should just answer their questions as they come up, and not flame them to search.
I will do the math, 36000 new threads per month, you think it is impossible to search through crap now? It was not always like this, it was made like this.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
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Everyone has the ability to edit the Wiki. The information in this site evolves. ( see the new info about how different Spls affect your phone)The problem with the Wiki is that the people with the info mostly don't use it, the people looking for info do. Do not leave it up to everyone else. Every member has the ability and thus the responsibility to correct or update any information they feel is wrong or misguiding in the Wiki.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
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Yes we were all new at one time. Many of us searched (eight months, 200 posts, 2 new threads ) any too many didn't ( which is why we are talking about this ) . But don't blame the people flaming redundant thread starters( the people padding their post counts as you put it ). The remedy starts with you and me.
Now take the answers you get in this thread and add them to the Wiki for all others.
NEW (29/4/09) --> after further investigation and discussion with other kaiser owner affected with same problem, the thing could be more important than expected as many Kaiser could be potentially having the same problem.
The issue is that after going on flight mode the unit can start to have problems to get registered to the phone operator. Sometimes the problem is mitigated temporary by disabling 3G but the problem can persist. The unit is able to see the operators available but not to connect to any of them. Units affected were built between 07/07 and 11/07.
If you are affected please post your release date (DATE: DDMMYY(TBXX)/EU) that you can find on the sticker on the atenna in the back, under the back cover.
If you are not, be aware of the problem as you may start to have it if you go to flight mode or travel abroad.
NO SOLUTION FOR THE TIME BEING, AND IN GENERAL AFFECTED UNITS ARE ALREADY OUT OF THE GUARANTEE PERIOD.
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My TYTN II has more than 1 year.
The problem: Basically it is out of coverage all time, and does not manage to get connected to any network.
It started about 1 year ago. I am base in France and I want to USA. When I arrived to New York it did not work anymore. I thought it could have been the roaming or just that I had changed the SIM card a few weeks before and the operator did something wrong (ORANGE). But the point is that the same SIM was working in my spare nokia and on the other hand an Orange Spain SIM had the same problem.
I spend a few days in USA moving from one state to the other and after 2 or 3 days the phone started to work but with some problems (changing from one operator to another it did work) finally the 4th day it was working.
When I returned to Paris, it did work ok for a while.
Then one day the phone just droped the connection to the operator, and at the same time the Bluetooth link to the BT carkit and the GPS stopped and restarted. Since that moment the phone just did not work anymore (only the telephone).
I open a case to HTC who never replied. On the phone they just say inconsistent things.
The WM6.1 official release came out and I did upgrade it--> still the same. A new ticket open to HTC without replay. I stopped using it for a while.
In summer I went to Spain for vacations and started to play with it again. One day it started to work again without any justificiation.... so I left it like that.
Months latter I got a mail from HTC (really very reactive) but at that point the phone was working since more than 4 months.
By the end of 2008 when I was in Spain and this time using my Orange Spain SIM, I had to replace the SIM. After a few days, and after travelling across Spain, I had again the same problem. And actually the phone did not get any coverage with any of the SIM I use (Orange FR, Orange ES, Movistar...). Little by little it started to work again and it has stay like this for a few months.
In the last few weeks I have been in UK and Italy. Again started to have problems and finally, after a visit to Italy my phone has stop working. It is like that for 2 weeks.
The point is that I have tryed all kind of things:
- force to GSM or let it in auto
- change the UMTS and GSM bands
- different SIM from different operators
- Official WM6.0 and WM6.1 spanish
- finally I started to flash different Radio ROM and also coocked ROM
- when I search manually the operators or I try to fix it manually, I see that the phone is actually capable to see the available networks, but it does not manage to get registered in any.
At the end it is always in with the "!" symbol, saying either that it has no coverage or that the access is refussed.
I have seen that in two occasions I had changed the SIM a few weeks before. Also that the problem has always happened after putting the phone in flight mode (actually I was flying) and landing in a new city or even a new country; except once.
Last point: it is free HTC Spanish version. It is actually the second as the first I had was stollen. With the first I never had problems.
I will end up sending it back to HTC but obviously it will take very very long and meanwhile I will not have the GPS and the rest of the PDA that still work ok.
Any idea?
Thanks
Wow that was a long post, even so, you've left out some important info. Which ROM Radio and SPL versions are on the device now (the wiki explains how to find all this out if needed). Has the device suffered any physical bumps or been used in the rain/got wet? Have you tried cleaning the battery terminals and spring posts with a cotton bud soaked in contact cleaner or IPA? Not sure if the last one will help (especially if there are no battery charge problems) but it may be an intermittant problem and I've found this to be a known issue with the TyTN II. Also, how much more than one year have you had the phone (my TyTN II came with a warranty about 15 months).
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
On the other hand, I have tested all (really all) the RADIO ROM available in the FTP server of xda-developers, plus some more up to the 1.70.18.02 and
1.71.09.01.
Right now I'm running the 1.64.06.04.
In terms of ROM, I have also tested serveral. The last few are:
- offical HTC WM6.1 ESP (BTW with radio 1.65.17.56)
- KaiserESNReconstructedTestFix02
- RUU_Kaiser_SPA_WM6.1.19212.MobileVirtualVista2.21_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_by_ansar
The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
pepesr said:
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
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I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
In terms of ROM ..... The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
Wow that is totally crazy. Good luck with that.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
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I will clean it again just to be sure....
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
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I have gone through the forum to find another similar cases, but no luck. I agree with you that it is very unlikely that it is the ROM, as it happened with 5 different ROMs, including official WM6 and WM6.1.
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Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
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A few drops in 1 year an a half, this is almost unavoidable. But not a big crash, and in any case it never happened just before the problem. The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
I did not mention it but I reflashed the SPL a few times.... the same. I have also changed the Network Wizard and run it several times (there are some problems in the forum where people can not get access to some of the operator's services). Nothing changed
There is another point, when I go to the configuration of the Phone, I can list the available networks, but the issue is that it does not get registered to any of them. It may even be a problem with the operator an not the phone itself.
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If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
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That is a good point. As I have to travel to UK from time to time I may consider it as an option, but as you say, I want to try all possibilities before.
Thanks again, and thanks to all other people that have any suggestion.
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The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
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You did mention sometimes it refuses to be registered on the correct network. If you use your secondary phone to call the operator, perhaps they can tell from their side why registration is being refused? I assume the SPL version you are using is fully compatible with the ROMs you are using. Other than that it's time to contact the repair centre and if you're now back in France then the HTC website (or Orange in France) should provide details of closer, more convenient repair centres. Good luck.
Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
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By that if you mean it's hardware related fair enough but remember there are lots of bits of hardware attached to the mainboard which are easily and relatively cheaply replaceable (eg the sim holder) so a skilled repairer should be able to diagnose exactly where the fault lies.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
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Well thats a very important distinction to make. Option 1 may be uneconomic to repair where as option 2 would be free - don't you think you should get a definitive response from your network provider?
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Get a definitive response from the network provider and then if reqd from an HTC repair centre (as suggested in my last post). In the meantime you can carry on as normal using the 'good' Kaiser.
Thansk.
If you have seen the rips of the Kaiser, it is not so easy to repair what is suppose to be faulty.
When you open it, you take out some parts:
- Antenna
- Speaker
- the roller control on the left side
Then you can remove the main card by disconnecting two flex cables.
When you have done this, your unit becomes two main parts:
- the main body that is completely ripped off
- the other half that contains the LCD, keyb, tilt mechanism, SIM reader, SD reader
The mothercard is actually monolitic, and most of the components are shilded with a methalic case solded to the board. There you have memory, processor, communication chipset...
I am currently using the "new" board on the old phone. Old the rest of the components are from the old one (including antenna, speaker....) and it works, so the fault is in the mother card.
Then when I use the old card with the "new" phone I have the same problem. I have a good and a bad one. Considering that I have no guarantee (and if I had, after all this manipulations, I have lost it for sure), I will first check with Orange. It is not very likely that it has been an operator problem as I have tried with many SIM from different operators and in different countries.
At this point is not so bad as I can play with the spare unit, test new ROM and SW, etc... before running it in the operational one. I also have spare parts in case that I broke something else (LCD...). I am even considering to buy another in ebay, something broken but with the mother card still running, so I can actually have two fully operational.
Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?
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That must be about the 4th or 5th time SPL has been mentioned in this thread and nowhere has pepesr answered - very annoying but you know what they say about leading a horse to water....
Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Especially when relevant questions from earlier on in the thread (and reminders/suggestions to clean terminals) are being ignored/not reported back on - maybe pepesr may actually listen this time and answer all outstanding q's/report what has actually been done?[/grouch mode]
Thanks again for your help.
Don't get disapointed, I have gone through all the story because the problem is quite weird and this is maybe the only way not to miss an important detail.
As said twice before, answering to the questions, I have traid different SPL and ROMs. To be more precise:
- The problem first started with original HTC SW set up., long time ago.
- I only started to play with different SPL a few weeks ago, and because I wanted to test different radios as the problem is on the phone part.
- I have tried SPLs 1.93, 1.56, 3.28. For sure 1 or 2 more but I don't have any record. Currently running 3.28
- I have installed radios:
- 1.27.11.31
- 1.27.12.11
- 1.27.12.17
- 1.27.12.32
- 1.27.14.09
- 1.27.15.32
- 1.58.26.20
- 1.64.06.04 --> currently running
- 1.64.08.21
- 1.70.18.02
- 1.71.09.01
- I have tried ROMs:
- official HTC WM6 spanish
- official HTC WM6.1 Spanish
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.21/2.20 D3D WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.10/2.00 WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3gullum
- Throttle Diamond I multi language (updated) --> currently running
Do not hesitate to ask further details.
Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
Anyway, perhaps the sim card connection to the motherboard is flaky
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Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
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You were right the first time. 'Verified' is not the same as cleaned correctly and thoroughly, just as saying it will be done doesn't mean it has been done (correctly and thoroughly). It's not that I'm simply dissapointed. I am annoyed at being given the run-around when it comes to getting concise answers and actions quickly.
I note that we finally have the CURRENT full ROM/Radio/SPL details when picked from a list of other things we didn't ask for (although still no word on whether the actual terminal/connector cleaning has yet taken place for sim and battery and if it was done correctly and thoroughly using the correct materials). I don't know if they are all fully compatible with each other, especially that radio (and to be honest, I can't be bothered checking the custom ROM thread to find out). To say all combinations have been tried is little use because that could mean mixing incompatible items together with a net result of problems. It's akin to saying I've verified all the fluid levels under a car bonnet by filling the radiator with oil, brake fluid reserviour with antifreeze and water and the engine with brake fluid.
I will not be hesitating to ask further details from pepesr (and pepesr_1 for that matter...), I simply won't. The problem is not that not enough words are provided in a response, it's that listening and acting on clear guidance is not occurring, not something I know how to change in others apart from by showing them the net effect.
In the words of ChumleyEX, the situation is 'crazy'!
As many times in the forum, your answers, Flying Kiwi, are starting to be agressive and useless.
Contacts have been very well cleaned (correctly and thoroughly).
More over, the SIM connectors are in the other half of the unit that works with the new motherboard.
Asuming by default that I am so incompetent and that I have not gone through all this forum to check all this compatibilities is quite arrogant.
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I continue to thanks all other people that has really the intention to help.
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Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Yes, it does work 102% for the rest. No other problems at all. And you can be sure I really strees it.
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
vuquan said:
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
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Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
pepesr_1 said:
Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
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I haven't check yet. But I think it's same. I bought it at 01/2008 as brandnew phone.
2 week ago, I take it to a service shop to re-weld the SIM tray pins. At that time, the phone is good. After one day, it became fault as the time before welding.
More information:
- When it good, the signal can be found when the Windows starting (the LED is blink) with any SIM.
- When it fault, with usable SIMs, the signal can be found after Windows started some minutes. With un-usable SIMs, the phone says: No SIM.
- All Sims above are good SIM (tested on other phone)
Sorry for my bad English.
I bought this phone after careful research. I found out that the Voice Command could be downloaded. Then I found out that it might not work. Then I found out if could if I just had the right CAB. Then I found my way here. Now I have read and read for the last two weeks when ever possible and some times for over 8 hours. Here is where I am and I would love some help. I am up against a time frame that is un-movable at this point. Here I am copying and pasting:
I have read a ton of stuff and what I finally have come to is that the CAB to operate and download the BTAG is available and I found it. It is with, this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882 I just don't know if I have to do a hard SPL or a Soft and or if I do one where to find the directions. I have read a ton of directions but it is not clear if they are necessary for this CAB and the CAB I believe is with Windows 6.5. I have 6.1. So if anyone can answer my questions it would be really wonderful....
should be closed by me for being duplicate...but I will leave it for this time so you can get your phone in gear, but in the future pls refrain from double posting/redundant thread opening, thx
I will also move the thread to general, it is not dev related
I already posted in backup thread, to add info on your h-spl question:
for cabs you don't need h-spl, that's only required for stock roms
so if this cab is only working on 6.5 you would need h-spl to get a 6.5 custom rom on your phone, but only for that
best
I appreciate your leaving it for me. You are obviously not used to working with newer people though. I posted the cab link so that it could be seen in order to ask the question. I am also packing, washing clothes, have my other phone listed on eBay, getting things ready for my garage sale, trying to be quiet while my boyfriend sleeps, feeding the dogs, trying not to upset them.....
In between that read any responses so that I know how to answer the offer on my other phone that I have listed on eBay. Download a backup for the Xperia so that I can load the CAB and if it doesn't work I can restore the backup....
Basically, I am trying to do a lot of things at once. That is why I am trying to cover everything in my posts. I have very limited time.
So, again thanks, I am still unclear as to whether or not this cab that is 6.5 or at least that is the ROM that it is in. I think, I am not very experienced in this.... ergo the link to his info. Back to what I said, I still am not clear on if it will work or I have wasted even more time??
I'm used to, nearly daily, but I don't like them posting all over the forum, especially not doing duplicates or starting new threads for anything
I understand your need but still: there are rules and they apply to everyone here, independent of them being in a hurry or not, having to do a lot of other things in parallel or not,...
I'm sure you noticed and read them during your research here, so pls abide by them
I am not quite sure what your post is even about - too much info all piled and mixed together. If you want an answer, you need to ask a question properly. So what is it that you need to know?
If any .CABs don't work, they can be uninstalled, no need to back up, restore and/or flash the entire phone just to get rid of the unworking .CABs
As far as Voice Command is concerned, I have it running on my X1 and it should run regardless of the ROM you have. I tried versions 1.6.0, 1.6.2 etc - all worked fine. The only difficulty is mapping the buttons with X1. I would recommend mapping left soft key, simply because I have the necessary functions on the screen, so didn't need a soft key to repeat the same, making the key reduntant and available for MS VC.
As far as ROM flashing is concerned, there is an excellent guide for flashing, just look for recommended stickies in ROM Development, but first it feels you are not really up to speed with the terminology - CABs, ROMs etc.
Mod, actually when I have so much to do, even though I read a lot of stuff I have not really completely become familiar with this site. If I had read that I certainly would not have posted it twice. That is why I did not PM the OP of the ROM that I have been referring to. Because what I did read was that no body wanted a lot of questions asked without someone reading.
As to the person who posted about my lingo. Thanks for your comments. I tried finding the folder for the cab on my phone. It is a new phone. Could not find it. Not sure what app it is in. I am familiar with my old phone. This is the 2nd of this one I have had to order now and the first one had so much wrong with it. I spent about a week alone just figuring out that that phone was definitely a lemon. The seller on eBay was not being truthful to me about it. That is a question I asked just recently.
.CABs are small installable programs, in order to have them on your phone, they need to be placed there by you, either to the phone itself or to the storage card, then you can install the program by clicking on the .CAB. There is no folder for the .CAB or app it can be in if you didn't have it placed there to begin with. Again, as I suspect, you are not quite familiar with terminology, you are using the right terms but in the wrong context somehow.
Not sure what you were looking for and not finding on your phone. Again, your descriptions make no sense. Just because you can't find the .CAB you never placed on the phone, doesn't make a phone a lemon, rather you having no idea how to use a phone or how to install anything on it in order for you to be able to use it.
No, I know that does not make a phone a lemon. It's a really long story. Just wanted to thank you for coming back and leaving me a more detailed answer. I am not stupid, I just have way too much too do and limited time so it is a combination of that and not enough sleep and trying to move internationally in 3 days. Thanks again!
Okay, I got it on my phone. But I can't get the bluetooth heaset to work. I read in many different places about assigning a button. I did that. I also say about doing a soft reset. I did that. I don't want to do either of those again for fear that I will loose everything I have at this point. Pleae anyone.....
You need to go to settings, open Voice Command and tick the appropriate option to use bluetooth with it.
Unless, of course, you are talking about general bluetooth connection. In which case i suggest you get settled, give yourself time and have a good read of the instruction booklet, section discussing bluetooth connection.
There are a whole bunch of choices. I am using a plantronics PRO and I saw the information about A2DP. So I tried that and it did not work....
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There are a whole bunch of choices. I am using a plantronics PRO and I saw the information about A2DP. So I tried that and it did not work....
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what didn't work, your headset or A2DP? A2DP is a stereo format for stereo headsets and headphones. Is your headset stereo?