Hello guy,
Which nice guy wants to help me to install on my XPERIA WM6.1 to 6.5 but very detailed.
Care roman ma ajuta sa trec de la 6.1 la 6.5.
Thx
ummmm
reading the stickies or the million other threads with the same title might help
A standard answer to this question from my side is here.
Not much related to the main question but:
I am still sticking with 6.1 because i like the HTC Manilla start menu replacement over Windows default programs menu, and with all 6.5 ROM's there is always the Win6.5 HoneyComb start menu.
is there any way to re-enable HTC manilla programs on WinMo6.5?
I am not really sure if I understand your question correctly...
Manila is the user i/f of HTC, not a part of WinMo.
For some older Manila versions, there exist cab files to install HTC apps on WinMo.
However, speed will be much faster if you flash a ROM with WinMo and Manila inside.
There are quite a few nice 6.5 ROMs with either Manila 2.1 or 2.5 - while you
might prefer 2.1 because this one usually has the program tab separate.
On the other hand, WinMo 6.1 ROMs still feel faster, imho, and the latest ones
do come with the latest Manila 2.1, too.
What i meant is the start menu (upper left windows icon) of the Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5, in the 6.1 Manilla can replace it with it's applications launcher, which is usually just a tab of manilla, while on WinMo 6.5 i found no roms that can replace it, WinMo6.5 will still have it's start menu programs launcher...
Well, ok then.
WinMo 6.5 does not have any start menu which is comparable to 6.1 - it is replaced by the honeycomb screen.
If you do not like Manila, but search a program launcher like the tab in Manila, you might try other apps for WinMo, such as PointUI.
tjeo said:
Hello guy,
Which nice guy wants to help me to install on my XPERIA WM6.1 to 6.5 but very detailed.
Care roman ma ajuta sa trec de la 6.1 la 6.5.
Thx
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eu te ajut
tictac0566 said:
If you do not like Manila, but search a program launcher like the tab in Manila, you might try other apps for WinMo, such as PointUI.
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It's the contrary, i like only Manilla and don't want windows's honeycomb, i want a way to let manilla replace the honeycomb as it did in winmo 6.1.
mcbyte_it said:
It's the contrary, i like only Manilla and don't want windows's honeycomb, i want a way to let manilla replace the honeycomb as it did in winmo 6.1.
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Well, that´s what all ROMs with Manila do.
Whatever you install, as long as it comes with Manila, no need to use WinMo
(at least in most cases).
tictac0566 said:
Well, that´s what all ROMs with Manila do.
Whatever you install, as long as it comes with Manila, no need to use WinMo
(at least in most cases).
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Not all, the roms that have WinMo 6.1 and Manilla it can be done, the manilla will replace the standard start menu with it's programs tab, removing the tab from the tabs bar. While on roms with 6.5 (at least those up to 1 month ago) didn't do it, the start button opened the WinMo6.5 honey comb even with Manilla installed and working, the programs launcher is just a tab on Manilla....
mcbyte_it said:
Not all, the roms that have WinMo 6.1 and Manilla it can be done, the manilla will replace the standard start menu with it's programs tab,
nope, that is not always the case
removing the tab from the tabs bar. While on roms with 6.5 (at least those up to 1 month ago) didn't do it, the start button opened the WinMo6.5 honey comb
nope, that is not always the case
even with Manilla installed and working, the programs launcher is just a tab on Manilla....
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Whatever you mean, mate.
Maybe it is just a misunderstanding here. Just keep searching what you need, and either you will find a ROM, or a registry tweak.
I think what he wants is for the WM6.5 start button to launch the Manila programs tab, and not the 6.5 honeycomb start menu.
McByte: older 6.1 TF3D ROMs (or some of the newer ones, depending on the chef) launch the default 6.1 Start Menu (like Windows 98/XP) when you click on the start button.
You can ask the chefs if the can integrate the Programs tab to the WM6.5 start button, but I don't think it's possible. That feature comes from the Manila it was ripped from (e.g. Rhodium/Topaz vs. TP2/Leo). HTC provided that feature since the default 6.1 start menu was not finger friendly. 6.5 start menu is, so they didn't bother putting that in.
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Had a quick search and couldn't see any obvious answer to this...
Aware of the ability to disable Touchflo 3D and have the WM6.1 interface on the frontend, I'm wondering whether the same will work with 6.5. Will TouchFlo 3D2 be compatiable with 6.5?
I understand that 6.5 may negate the need for Touchflo3D itself, but I'd quite like the flexibility to switch back to the interface I partly chose the Diamond2 for.
Thanks!
yes u can switch back and forth
I beleive we will have to see what HTC will do. Maybe an all new interface. Till the phones start shipping with 6.5 u really cant say. In the end though its up to the cooks to add TF3D to a 6.5 coocked Rom. Somebody correct me if im wrong.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I beleive we will have to see what HTC will do. Maybe an all new interface. Till the phones start shipping with 6.5 u really cant say. In the end though its up to the cooks to add TF3D to a 6.5 coocked Rom. Somebody correct me if im wrong.
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HTC must be holding back on something since they provided no config options in the initial Topaz 6.1 TF3D release. Maybe they thought it was a waste of time because people will give up on TF3D once 6.5 is out?
Maybe they wanted to focus on the 6.5 integrated TF3D solution?
HI
Im a noob and im getting the blackstone, and want the "best" version of WM 6.5 and also be able to chose back to touchflo 3D menu. Which rom should i download and flash to use? Seriously a noob.
Thank you.
The best thing to do is try all of WM 6.5 here... All of our chef here is great! It's up to your taste...
Im using Miri's WM 6.5 and it's stable and fast. You can also try Energys 6.5 if you want fast with some very nice eye candy...
It's all up to you. Enjoy flashing and read Crackwhore's Guide about flashing so you won't get any problems.
Cheers,
Jaypeev_9
Thanks for fast reply!
Will i be able to chose back and forth to the regular touch flo 3D menu with boths of those? I dont really understand, does the touch flo menu disappear on some if i update to WM 6.5?
And also do you recomend a HSPL?
Thanks.
for example.
Miri did 3 versions (maybe 4 now?) Xtralight (wm6.5 alone), Standard (6.5 with some manila stuff) and premium (full manila +wm6.5) i personally use xtralight as its pretty much bare, allowing to add the stuff YOU want.
after goign to 6.5 i rarely get a ROM with manila in as i have become to hate it!
Its all down to preference i flashed alot of different roms before staying with miri so just try! but as he said ^^ please rea the guide first and as always backep your data!
bthelastman said:
Thanks for fast reply!
Will i be able to chose back and forth to the regular touch flo 3D menu with boths of those? I dont really understand, does the touch flo menu disappear on some if i update to WM 6.5?
And also do you recomend a HSPL?
Thanks.
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TouchFlo 3D is just a program installed normally by HTC on these devices. WM6.5 can exist with or without TouchFlo 3D (Manila). You may want to read first in the specific ROM description if it includes Manila or not. If you want to still be able to use Manila, chose one that includes it. Then, you can easily avtivate it by going to Start/Settings/Today/Items, and there deactivate Titanium and activa TouchFLo.
Yes, you will want to use HSPL or USPL. Its not recommended, its mandatory. Read more about this, it will help you for the future, since the story goes the same for all HTC devices.
Thank you!
Closed, just to insure the what is the best rom chit chat does not start
I have tried many ROM's based on WM6.1 and 6.5 with my both my Blackstone and Kaiser.
For me, and this is my personal preference, I prefer WM6.1.
I am probably in the minority on this.
Everyone looks for something different in a ROM.
So, which is the best ROM depends on who you ask,
and how you use your phone.
For my Blackstone, I find L26_THDV3.55_Rhodium_WWE_Ultimate
is the best one for me.
For my Kaiser, HyperDragon_IV_IOLITE_WWE_20090204
Both are 6.1 ROM's.
We now have Hard-SPL. Thanks to all involved.
There are a couple of WM6.5 ROM's out, but posts show bugs,
which are being worked on by the chefs.
I am currently running the stock 6.1 on it, as most of us are
and it runs fine, but I am sure it could be better.
Is anyone going to be cooking a 6.1 ROM for the Rhodium?
Yeah, I prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5, too! And yes, I'm cooking with WM6.1 and Multilang!
so for a winmo newbie what is main benefits of running 6.5?
buttsbuttsbutts said:
so for a winmo newbie what is main benefits of running 6.5?
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That is a decision you have to make.
Read through the posts on 6.5 ROM's and see if you prefer
the features and the user interface.
i'm loving the Tricolor [Albino] Red 6.1, that was my vision.......
i've had to go back to Leo's 3.55, so as i can start on the theme fixes tho,
this being so i don't need to flash each color, i can just install/uninstall each of the colors.....
but i'll be going back
I prefer 6.5, so I'm waiting for the first (mostly) bug-free 6.5 rom
I too am waiting for a solid 6.5, I like the finger friendliness of the 6.5.
But what is even better is TF 2.5 or 2.6, I have it on my HD and it is laid out so well that it doesn't matter if you have 6.1 or 6.5. you really don't need to leave touch flo.
I'm not seeing any benefits of 6.5 yet.
6.1 with Manila 2.5 (or 2.6 ) would be my preference for now, at least until 6.5 matures a bit.
Whew, thought I was the only one.
Mr.Clark said:
I'm not seeing any benefits of 6.5 yet.
6.1 with Manila 2.5 (or 2.6 ) would be my preference for now, at least until 6.5 matures a bit.
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Agreed totally on this, 6.1 with manila 2.6 would be perfect
I did the 6.5 thing for almost a week and had to go back to 6.1. I don't know just something about it wasn't right.
Supertrooper said:
I did the 6.5 thing for almost a week and had to go back to 6.1. I don't know just something about it wasn't right.
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Agreed, I just prefer 6.1. Tried 6.5 for about three days. Had to flash back (this was on Blackstone and Xperia)
I have been using 6.5 since today, and I have to say I like it. The menu fonts are larger and more finger-friendly. Today page and Start Menu are quite nice too, they just look better than the old ones. It runs very smooth, and especially wi-fi seems to connect quicker than the original ROM.
I'll be trying another 6.5 ROM with manilla 2.6 as soon as it comes out, can't wait!
The official 6.5 on this forum is significantly faster/more stable than the stock 6.1. I imagine these things have more to do with how well the ROM is cooked than 6.1/6.5 issues.
6.5 wins hands down. It has smoother finger scrolling, you can finger scroll within a drop-down list box and you can move sms messages from the threaded view into folders. These aren't possible in 6.1.
The Lock Screen is also excellent, and removes the need for S2U2.
I ran multiple 6.1 and 6.5 cooked roms on my excalibur. 6.5 is significantly faster, period. I am waiting a week or three until the TP2 builds becomes a little more stable before I flash off the stock rom but it will be to a 6.5.
I really hope there is a stable manilla 2.5 or 2.6 build soon... saw the vid of 2.6 on engadget and was blown away.
c.r.u.i.s.e released a 6.1 ROM, but it is Italian, so I haven't tried it.
Have tried the latest Energy ROM(August 21),
which is 6.5 and it is certainly fast.
Has a lot programs preloaded that I will never use.
At0mAng is releasing a 6.5 over the weekend.
She makes cleaner ROM's and I will certainly try it.
this is my first true experience with wm6.1 .
before this i had a samsung blackjack =x that i flashed 6.1 onto.
i enjoyed it but it was slow and pales in comparison to the TP2 with 6.1 .
i cant wait to get a stable release to find all the marvels of 6.5 .
Stock ROM is still fine for rhodium. Its the first time i like a stock rom on a WM device, and I am a real flashing freak on all my other devices.
forgive the newbie post but...
what is manila? and I can't find any zoom for IE in the 6.5 I downloaded. Is there a zoom on IE in the stock 6.1? I have a htc touch pro 2.
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.
Give it a try
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
vinsyl said:
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!
BeEazy10 said:
Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.
elab said:
vinsyl said:
Originally Posted by vinsyl View Post
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!
geejayoh said:
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
MadBeef said:
I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081
is there any application that change start menu program from 6.1 to 6.5 without changing to 6.5 rom? bcoz 6.1 start menu look ugly and it is cool if can change it to 6.5 with that hexagon looks.
i'm just wondering
Not that I know of.
There's various ways to change your start menu, like Wisbar Advance. Or even change your whole interface. But if you want the honeycomb start menu, going WM 6.5 rom is the way.
If you don't want to change your WM too much, just look around for a WM 6.5 lite rom with M2D interface. Once you upgraded to HardSPL, changing roms is pretty risk free and very easy.
You should try a rom like this..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619507
Closest rom to a 6.1 with the 6.5 honeycomb!