A little confused, will 6.5 overwrite TouchFlo? - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Had a quick search and couldn't see any obvious answer to this...
Aware of the ability to disable Touchflo 3D and have the WM6.1 interface on the frontend, I'm wondering whether the same will work with 6.5. Will TouchFlo 3D2 be compatiable with 6.5?
I understand that 6.5 may negate the need for Touchflo3D itself, but I'd quite like the flexibility to switch back to the interface I partly chose the Diamond2 for.
Thanks!

yes u can switch back and forth

I beleive we will have to see what HTC will do. Maybe an all new interface. Till the phones start shipping with 6.5 u really cant say. In the end though its up to the cooks to add TF3D to a 6.5 coocked Rom. Somebody correct me if im wrong.

HTC Touch Freak said:
I beleive we will have to see what HTC will do. Maybe an all new interface. Till the phones start shipping with 6.5 u really cant say. In the end though its up to the cooks to add TF3D to a 6.5 coocked Rom. Somebody correct me if im wrong.
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HTC must be holding back on something since they provided no config options in the initial Topaz 6.1 TF3D release. Maybe they thought it was a waste of time because people will give up on TF3D once 6.5 is out?
Maybe they wanted to focus on the 6.5 integrated TF3D solution?

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Touchflo on official wm6 succsess

Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
Thanks to tom_codons for the released worling oem touchflo.
And i used gollums touchflo fix, and its not activated by a button, but activated by sliding a finger from top to bottom.
Im not gonna release my rom the way its now (if ever), because I did not implement the touchflo fix in the rom, it was installed with a cab after flashing.
And there is alot of work to do with the rom itself.
But, I have the kaiser home plugin, the touch commManager, the touch dialer and the kaiser networkwizard working.
and I have added a few apps like PIMbackup, total commander2, Sun Java, pocket rar, htc audiomanagerand a few tweeks.
Its running very good.
I just have to figure out to change the pagepool so that wont be needed after flashing, and I need to do some regedits.
If anyone have oem regedits, please provide me with a link. Like in.ex not having the cabs deletet after install, etc etc.
Ill start working on a wwe this week.
Ill was thinking making just a few edits and implement touchflo, so that ppl can have a "clean" os.nb to work with. But im sure some more experienced chefs can tune it way better then me
Congrats - glad you got it sorted. Most of the reg edits are in wiki - majority of wm5 ones apply to wm6. If you have problems let me know. As for pagepool look at the thread in elf upgrading - it worked on my artemis rom so i am sure it will work on your herald, pm me if you need any help.
thx man, it has been quite alot of hrs gone by to get it work, thx to many.
Ill post both norwegian rom and wwe when I belive they are ready, and I will give proper credits to all who has helped providing sollutions.
But be careful offering help, I might take you up on that lol
Zorro helps when he can lol
itje said:
Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
Thanks to tom_codons for the released worling oem touchflo.
And i used gollums touchflo fix, and its not activated by a button, but activated by sliding a finger from top to bottom.
Im not gonna release my rom the way its now (if ever), because I did not implement the touchflo fix in the rom, it was installed with a cab after flashing.
And there is alot of work to do with the rom itself.
But, I have the kaiser home plugin, the touch commManager, the touch dialer and the kaiser networkwizard working.
and I have added a few apps like PIMbackup, total commander2, Sun Java, pocket rar, htc audiomanagerand a few tweeks.
Its running very good.
I just have to figure out to change the pagepool so that wont be needed after flashing, and I need to do some regedits.
If anyone have oem regedits, please provide me with a link. Like in.ex not having the cabs deletet after install, etc etc.
Ill start working on a wwe this week.
Ill was thinking making just a few edits and implement touchflo, so that ppl can have a "clean" os.nb to work with. But im sure some more experienced chefs can tune it way better then me
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can you please tell me which rom u have used? do you have a link?
itje said:
Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
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Tha1nOnly said:
can you please tell me which rom u have used? do you have a link?
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It doesn't seem you've paid attention enough while reading his post!
Peace!
slvrbllt said:
It doesn't seem you've paid attention enough while reading his post!
Peace!
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yes ure right, im sorry bout that. but can somebody tell me if there is a standalone touchflo plugin which i can install on my p4350 herald with wm6?
I'd wait for ITJE's release.
I mean, there's a plethora of different ROMs and setups out there, most of the times overloaded with programs you would never use.
An official WM6 ROM with only HTC Home and/or TouchFlo is definitely what most of us are waiting for.
As far as I know, there is no single CAB to install TouchFlo, while the HTC Home plugin is available on this forum (Kaiser version works fine with our Herald).
Hope it helps.
M.
slvrbllt said:
I'd wait for ITJE's release.
I mean, there's a plethora of different ROMs and setups out there, most of the times overloaded with programs you would never use.
An official WM6 ROM with only HTC Home and/or TouchFlo is definitely what most of us are waiting for.
As far as I know, there is no single CAB to install TouchFlo, while the HTC Home plugin is available on this forum (Kaiser version works fine with our Herald).
Hope it helps.
M.
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yeah i know i already installed the htc homeplug from the touch i guess with the 3 tabs and i installed the comm manager from touch/kaiser
so bad that there can not be only one cab file with the touch cube in it ^^
but you are right most of us waiting for a wm6 rom only with htc plug, comm manager, dialer skin and of course the touchflo
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
itje said:
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
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sounds very nice, could you also make a german rom or can i switch this from the english one to german then?
fast ROM?
itje said:
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
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Have you done some optimizations to the original ROM? I'm just curious, because I find the WM6 ROM a way slower than the WM5 5.4.xxx.
No other languages will be made but english and norwegian, sorry.
Not in the near future anyway, I still have much to learn, and beeing confused by languages I dont know, well that wouldnt go well
I AM NOT, gonna cook on request, add this and that, sorry.
First I want to cook up a norwegian rom, that is like I want it, and im gonna cook a english rom with touchflo, touch commManager, touch dialer, kaiser network wizard, and some small apps that most ppl install anyway.
If ppl dont like, dont download when its up, its that easy
When I have completed what I want, I will look into doing some requests.
But for now, just the 2 im working on.
Oh, and yes its faster, atleast on my herald, so how it works on others I dont know, I should be same, but I dont know...
I have dones some optimizing and done some tweeks so that it has become better, in my opinion...
BTW, using touchflow almost requires that you use batterystatus and overclock the cpu from 201 to 247. I run 260 on mine, and have done so for a long time.
cheers
Wow, really looking forward to seeing that touchflow ROM. My co-worker told me about it and showed me how it worked. Looked absolutely great.
Overclocking a phone seems a bit alien to me as this is my first windows based phone. Guess I still have a loads to learn
Looking forward to the release of the ROM
itje said:
No other languages will be made but english and norwegian, sorry.
Not in the near future anyway, I still have much to learn, and beeing confused by languages I dont know, well that wouldnt go well
I AM NOT, gonna cook on request, add this and that, sorry.
First I want to cook up a norwegian rom, that is like I want it, and im gonna cook a english rom with touchflo, touch commManager, touch dialer, kaiser network wizard, and some small apps that most ppl install anyway.
If ppl dont like, dont download when its up, its that easy
When I have completed what I want, I will look into doing some requests.
But for now, just the 2 im working on.
Oh, and yes its faster, atleast on my herald, so how it works on others I dont know, I should be same, but I dont know...
I have dones some optimizing and done some tweeks so that it has become better, in my opinion...
BTW, using touchflow almost requires that you use batterystatus and overclock the cpu from 201 to 247. I run 260 on mine, and have done so for a long time.
cheers
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ok thanks i will also grab the english language rom, no problem for me
with the overclocking i have a question: with which program did you do this? and what you mean with using batterystatus?
I think your doing a great job cooking this rom I got my herald just this weekend and can't wait till you finish it.
I would rather like a dutch rom offcourse, but WWE will do also.
Anyway, nice job Itje!
Regarding TouchFLO - I'm running PDAVIET TouchFLO on a standard P4350 (no overclocking) - runs fine. I think it's bull to say you have to to overclock to make it run nice. Runs smooth as silk here.
/Inc
well, you must think its bull as much as you want. Ofcourse it runs smooth on a pdaviet, Tom is a wizard with cooking, he and many other have done this stuff many times before, and have tweeked their roms to a level I havnt dreamt about or thought of.
The stuff I now know, its knowlege from hackers like him and others, all I have done is putting that knowlege into a rom, so that I can have my native language with some of the features they have provided us with.
Instead of complainting about things I want and dont want in their roms, I cook my own. I decided to share that I could get it to work on a official rom because so many has asked for it (not from me, but asked in general if someone could do it)
AND..based on a official, unmoded os, with touchflo, YOU try to make it run like the touchflo on toms pdaviet roms, your welcome to try, come on and give it a shot, cook your own rom without tweeking it any and just add touchflo, try before you claim that what I say is bull.
Anyway, after I did a couple of tweeks and edits on the rom, It was better, and actually going ok, but when I overclocked it, its a dream to use.
Maybe some day im gonna be good enough to make a rom with heavy apps running on it without overclocking.
But, Im happy I have achieved my goal. I did what I wanted, cooked my own rom, with touchflo and other stuff.
And I decided to share it, so that if anyone who wants can use it and do whatever
Stop being so self righteous ... it doesn't suit you well.
/Inc

WM 6.5 rom Blackstone touchflo

HI
Im a noob and im getting the blackstone, and want the "best" version of WM 6.5 and also be able to chose back to touchflo 3D menu. Which rom should i download and flash to use? Seriously a noob.
Thank you.
The best thing to do is try all of WM 6.5 here... All of our chef here is great! It's up to your taste...
Im using Miri's WM 6.5 and it's stable and fast. You can also try Energys 6.5 if you want fast with some very nice eye candy...
It's all up to you. Enjoy flashing and read Crackwhore's Guide about flashing so you won't get any problems.
Cheers,
Jaypeev_9
Thanks for fast reply!
Will i be able to chose back and forth to the regular touch flo 3D menu with boths of those? I dont really understand, does the touch flo menu disappear on some if i update to WM 6.5?
And also do you recomend a HSPL?
Thanks.
for example.
Miri did 3 versions (maybe 4 now?) Xtralight (wm6.5 alone), Standard (6.5 with some manila stuff) and premium (full manila +wm6.5) i personally use xtralight as its pretty much bare, allowing to add the stuff YOU want.
after goign to 6.5 i rarely get a ROM with manila in as i have become to hate it!
Its all down to preference i flashed alot of different roms before staying with miri so just try! but as he said ^^ please rea the guide first and as always backep your data!
bthelastman said:
Thanks for fast reply!
Will i be able to chose back and forth to the regular touch flo 3D menu with boths of those? I dont really understand, does the touch flo menu disappear on some if i update to WM 6.5?
And also do you recomend a HSPL?
Thanks.
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TouchFlo 3D is just a program installed normally by HTC on these devices. WM6.5 can exist with or without TouchFlo 3D (Manila). You may want to read first in the specific ROM description if it includes Manila or not. If you want to still be able to use Manila, chose one that includes it. Then, you can easily avtivate it by going to Start/Settings/Today/Items, and there deactivate Titanium and activa TouchFLo.
Yes, you will want to use HSPL or USPL. Its not recommended, its mandatory. Read more about this, it will help you for the future, since the story goes the same for all HTC devices.
Thank you!
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[req]stripped wm 6.5

I wonder why there isn't ANY WM 6.5 ROM WITHOUT any HTC enhancement.... is it that hard to do.
I mean there sure are others like me who dont want Manila, no enter PIN screen that looks like the one from HTC, no volume screen from HTC....Just plain stock WM 6.5....
I'd cook it myself if I knew how and had more time... too bad...
bonevbs said:
I wonder why there isn't ANY WM 6.5 ROM WITHOUT any HTC enhancement.... is it that hard to do.
I mean there sure are others like me who dont want Manila, no enter PIN screen that looks like the one from HTC, no volume screen from HTC....Just plain stock WM 6.5....
I'd cook it myself if I knew how and had more time... too bad...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551159
bonevbs said:
I wonder why there isn't ANY WM 6.5 ROM WITHOUT any HTC enhancement.... is it that hard to do.
I mean there sure are others like me who dont want Manila, no enter PIN screen that looks like the one from HTC, no volume screen from HTC....Just plain stock WM 6.5....
I'd cook it myself if I knew how and had more time... too bad...
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try my new lite rom. It has some HTC enhancements but the visuals or worth it without any resources being lost.
At0mAng said:
try my new lite rom. It has some HTC enhancements but the visuals or worth it without any resources being lost.
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yeah i tried your Lite version without the HTC messaging app and it was quite nice but I didnt like the fact that a lot of the look n feel was inconsistent.
like the phone does still look like from HTC(which isnt bad but I want it either 99% Windows Look or 99% HTC), same for the enter PIN dialog and loudspeaker volume dialogs...
What I want is a ROM which looks 100% like Windows Mobile 6.5 or maybe 99%(the software keyboard from HTC is better than WM version)
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551282
steph

Decided to modify my tytn2

hi all,
been reading the forums for a while now, but still a little confused on where to start.
I like to keep my phone setup simple.
but would like it to be thumb friendly aswell as faster.
I use wm6.1 installed from the HTC website.
I was wondering whether to just install applications such as the new touchFlo 2 and the keyboard speed fix or to go for a full rom release. or maybe just wait for a windows 6.5 release?
im wondering what you guys would recommend.
I recommend you stick with a 6.1 rom.
sorry responded to the wrong thread.
smurfster said:
hi all,
been reading the forums for a while now, but still a little confused on where to start.
I like to keep my phone setup simple.
but would like it to be thumb friendly aswell as faster.
I use wm6.1 installed from the HTC website.
I was wondering whether to just install applications such as the new touchFlo 2 and the keyboard speed fix or to go for a full rom release. or maybe just wait for a windows 6.5 release?
im wondering what you guys would recommend.
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Since WM 6.5 will not be offered for the Kaiser, your only option there is to try a custom 6.5 rom. In many cases since custom roms are beta , that does not always simplify things.
I use M2D with WK Task and HTC Action Screen assigned to my soft keys. This makes for a very quick and finger friendly set up.
CHome in 6.5 is great and very finger friendly. I thought I'd go back and try SPB Mobile and I'm glad I did, I actually like it more than CHome. Give TPC's rom a try, it's worth the plunge, especially if you spend a lot of time with/on your Kaiser.

From 6.1 to 6.5 help

Hello guy,
Which nice guy wants to help me to install on my XPERIA WM6.1 to 6.5 but very detailed.
Care roman ma ajuta sa trec de la 6.1 la 6.5.
Thx
ummmm
reading the stickies or the million other threads with the same title might help
A standard answer to this question from my side is here.
Not much related to the main question but:
I am still sticking with 6.1 because i like the HTC Manilla start menu replacement over Windows default programs menu, and with all 6.5 ROM's there is always the Win6.5 HoneyComb start menu.
is there any way to re-enable HTC manilla programs on WinMo6.5?
I am not really sure if I understand your question correctly...
Manila is the user i/f of HTC, not a part of WinMo.
For some older Manila versions, there exist cab files to install HTC apps on WinMo.
However, speed will be much faster if you flash a ROM with WinMo and Manila inside.
There are quite a few nice 6.5 ROMs with either Manila 2.1 or 2.5 - while you
might prefer 2.1 because this one usually has the program tab separate.
On the other hand, WinMo 6.1 ROMs still feel faster, imho, and the latest ones
do come with the latest Manila 2.1, too.
What i meant is the start menu (upper left windows icon) of the Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5, in the 6.1 Manilla can replace it with it's applications launcher, which is usually just a tab of manilla, while on WinMo 6.5 i found no roms that can replace it, WinMo6.5 will still have it's start menu programs launcher...
Well, ok then.
WinMo 6.5 does not have any start menu which is comparable to 6.1 - it is replaced by the honeycomb screen.
If you do not like Manila, but search a program launcher like the tab in Manila, you might try other apps for WinMo, such as PointUI.
tjeo said:
Hello guy,
Which nice guy wants to help me to install on my XPERIA WM6.1 to 6.5 but very detailed.
Care roman ma ajuta sa trec de la 6.1 la 6.5.
Thx
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eu te ajut
tictac0566 said:
If you do not like Manila, but search a program launcher like the tab in Manila, you might try other apps for WinMo, such as PointUI.
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It's the contrary, i like only Manilla and don't want windows's honeycomb, i want a way to let manilla replace the honeycomb as it did in winmo 6.1.
mcbyte_it said:
It's the contrary, i like only Manilla and don't want windows's honeycomb, i want a way to let manilla replace the honeycomb as it did in winmo 6.1.
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Well, that´s what all ROMs with Manila do.
Whatever you install, as long as it comes with Manila, no need to use WinMo
(at least in most cases).
tictac0566 said:
Well, that´s what all ROMs with Manila do.
Whatever you install, as long as it comes with Manila, no need to use WinMo
(at least in most cases).
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Not all, the roms that have WinMo 6.1 and Manilla it can be done, the manilla will replace the standard start menu with it's programs tab, removing the tab from the tabs bar. While on roms with 6.5 (at least those up to 1 month ago) didn't do it, the start button opened the WinMo6.5 honey comb even with Manilla installed and working, the programs launcher is just a tab on Manilla....
mcbyte_it said:
Not all, the roms that have WinMo 6.1 and Manilla it can be done, the manilla will replace the standard start menu with it's programs tab,
nope, that is not always the case
removing the tab from the tabs bar. While on roms with 6.5 (at least those up to 1 month ago) didn't do it, the start button opened the WinMo6.5 honey comb
nope, that is not always the case
even with Manilla installed and working, the programs launcher is just a tab on Manilla....
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Whatever you mean, mate.
Maybe it is just a misunderstanding here. Just keep searching what you need, and either you will find a ROM, or a registry tweak.
I think what he wants is for the WM6.5 start button to launch the Manila programs tab, and not the 6.5 honeycomb start menu.
McByte: older 6.1 TF3D ROMs (or some of the newer ones, depending on the chef) launch the default 6.1 Start Menu (like Windows 98/XP) when you click on the start button.
You can ask the chefs if the can integrate the Programs tab to the WM6.5 start button, but I don't think it's possible. That feature comes from the Manila it was ripped from (e.g. Rhodium/Topaz vs. TP2/Leo). HTC provided that feature since the default 6.1 start menu was not finger friendly. 6.5 start menu is, so they didn't bother putting that in.

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