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I have tried many ROM's based on WM6.1 and 6.5 with my both my Blackstone and Kaiser.
For me, and this is my personal preference, I prefer WM6.1.
I am probably in the minority on this.
Everyone looks for something different in a ROM.
So, which is the best ROM depends on who you ask,
and how you use your phone.
For my Blackstone, I find L26_THDV3.55_Rhodium_WWE_Ultimate
is the best one for me.
For my Kaiser, HyperDragon_IV_IOLITE_WWE_20090204
Both are 6.1 ROM's.
We now have Hard-SPL. Thanks to all involved.
There are a couple of WM6.5 ROM's out, but posts show bugs,
which are being worked on by the chefs.
I am currently running the stock 6.1 on it, as most of us are
and it runs fine, but I am sure it could be better.
Is anyone going to be cooking a 6.1 ROM for the Rhodium?
Yeah, I prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5, too! And yes, I'm cooking with WM6.1 and Multilang!
so for a winmo newbie what is main benefits of running 6.5?
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so for a winmo newbie what is main benefits of running 6.5?
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That is a decision you have to make.
Read through the posts on 6.5 ROM's and see if you prefer
the features and the user interface.
i'm loving the Tricolor [Albino] Red 6.1, that was my vision.......
i've had to go back to Leo's 3.55, so as i can start on the theme fixes tho,
this being so i don't need to flash each color, i can just install/uninstall each of the colors.....
but i'll be going back
I prefer 6.5, so I'm waiting for the first (mostly) bug-free 6.5 rom
I too am waiting for a solid 6.5, I like the finger friendliness of the 6.5.
But what is even better is TF 2.5 or 2.6, I have it on my HD and it is laid out so well that it doesn't matter if you have 6.1 or 6.5. you really don't need to leave touch flo.
I'm not seeing any benefits of 6.5 yet.
6.1 with Manila 2.5 (or 2.6 ) would be my preference for now, at least until 6.5 matures a bit.
Whew, thought I was the only one.
Mr.Clark said:
I'm not seeing any benefits of 6.5 yet.
6.1 with Manila 2.5 (or 2.6 ) would be my preference for now, at least until 6.5 matures a bit.
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Agreed totally on this, 6.1 with manila 2.6 would be perfect
I did the 6.5 thing for almost a week and had to go back to 6.1. I don't know just something about it wasn't right.
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I did the 6.5 thing for almost a week and had to go back to 6.1. I don't know just something about it wasn't right.
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Agreed, I just prefer 6.1. Tried 6.5 for about three days. Had to flash back (this was on Blackstone and Xperia)
I have been using 6.5 since today, and I have to say I like it. The menu fonts are larger and more finger-friendly. Today page and Start Menu are quite nice too, they just look better than the old ones. It runs very smooth, and especially wi-fi seems to connect quicker than the original ROM.
I'll be trying another 6.5 ROM with manilla 2.6 as soon as it comes out, can't wait!
The official 6.5 on this forum is significantly faster/more stable than the stock 6.1. I imagine these things have more to do with how well the ROM is cooked than 6.1/6.5 issues.
6.5 wins hands down. It has smoother finger scrolling, you can finger scroll within a drop-down list box and you can move sms messages from the threaded view into folders. These aren't possible in 6.1.
The Lock Screen is also excellent, and removes the need for S2U2.
I ran multiple 6.1 and 6.5 cooked roms on my excalibur. 6.5 is significantly faster, period. I am waiting a week or three until the TP2 builds becomes a little more stable before I flash off the stock rom but it will be to a 6.5.
I really hope there is a stable manilla 2.5 or 2.6 build soon... saw the vid of 2.6 on engadget and was blown away.
c.r.u.i.s.e released a 6.1 ROM, but it is Italian, so I haven't tried it.
Have tried the latest Energy ROM(August 21),
which is 6.5 and it is certainly fast.
Has a lot programs preloaded that I will never use.
At0mAng is releasing a 6.5 over the weekend.
She makes cleaner ROM's and I will certainly try it.
this is my first true experience with wm6.1 .
before this i had a samsung blackjack =x that i flashed 6.1 onto.
i enjoyed it but it was slow and pales in comparison to the TP2 with 6.1 .
i cant wait to get a stable release to find all the marvels of 6.5 .
Stock ROM is still fine for rhodium. Its the first time i like a stock rom on a WM device, and I am a real flashing freak on all my other devices.
forgive the newbie post but...
what is manila? and I can't find any zoom for IE in the 6.5 I downloaded. Is there a zoom on IE in the stock 6.1? I have a htc touch pro 2.
I LOVE the new Manila 2.5 i think its a step in the right direction but theres a problem.
The messaging application with it is riddled with bugs i am persistently having to soft-reset in order to sort it out. At the moment im working around problems by always creating a new SMS when i need to send them but its extremely awkward.
So heres the question, is it possible to cook a ROM with the standard WinMo messaging application instead of the new Manila 2.5 one?
Can i get a show of support and if its possible maybe we can see some/a Manila 2.5 ROM with standard WinMo messaging app.
P.S. If im cluttering up this forum and this should be somewhere else move it/lock it and tell me
I never tried it. But I think they might be dependent on each other.
I am by no means a chef and dont know much about that side of things but i would think it was possible.
If they are dependent on each other, then no. Unless we use a patched version of 2.5, but then the functionality wont be the same.
I do not think they need each other to work. HTC Message works well with no TF3D or TF3D2.1 so I am guessing arcsoft will work with 2.5
I have not had a chance to try it yet but it is on my list so I will soon.
There is already a solution for this ...
I use the Energy Rom Genesis with 2.5 Manila WM 6.5
After that I followed this little tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1
I SMS trough the WM SMS function, without using the HTC software for it...
Why did it suddenly disappear from all the ROMs?
Even Rota's has only photo and music rotation, AFAIK
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
madindehead said:
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
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So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
cykalu said:
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
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As for G-Sensor, G-Spot should cover that but there still remain all the other tabs.
In the end, is patience the answer of my problems?
HTC ONLY does Manilla rotation for its keyboarded devices.... so until there is a release of Manilla for a Leo Pro, they'll be no oem rotation in the latest Leo builds of Manilla.
IMO, just another reason to ditch inefficient Manilla for either PointUI, or SPB
Ersill said:
So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
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It's not an issue. It simply isn't supported. There isn't any need for it yet, as the HTC HD2 (Leo) doesn't have a slide out keyboard. So there is no need for a landscape home screen really. There is landscape support on the music and photo tabs, as some people may like to browse their photos and music that way.
When/if HTC decide to put Manila 2.5 on a Pro device with a keyboard, then we might see landscape mode for the other tabs. As of yet, there is nothing, and there will be nothing until HTC make it so.
It is not a bug, it is not an issue. HTC didn't make it yet, as the HD2 doesn't need it.
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
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the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
itje said:
Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
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thanks for your answer ... yes I just found several ROMs with manila 2.1 and there is no problem with rotation ... but for example one of them use a lot of RAM (60%) , one of them has some problem with sms ...
for this reason I overlook manila 2.5 ... and I think energy ROM up to now is the best choice ...
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Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
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thanks dude ... just could you plz introduce me these 3 ROMs ? right now I install energy ROM (21 Oct version) and I think it is the best ... although it doesn't have delivery choice ...
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.
Give it a try
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So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.
elab said:
vinsyl said:
Originally Posted by vinsyl View Post
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!
geejayoh said:
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081
Hello all!!!
Iam sorry for new thread alocation, but I cant find any new rom (build) with old user interface (I mean classic TouchFlo3D which is included with official ROM). I bought second HD for my girlfriend, which has stock rom... Its amazingly speedy a smooth (on the side of UI - TouchFlo3D) but I completly dislike Win.Mob.6.1...
Can anybody help or assist me?
Have a good day!
Thanx in advance to any response.
The Sense 2.1 is the new name for the TouchFlo3D.
...As far as I know...
The new name for the stock manila is manila 2.0 i believe.
2.1 is already with the colored icons (and weather).
However the smoothness of the UI is strongly related to the windows mobile version. So an old UI with wm6.5 will be slower then your girlfriends one .
I don't believe any of the chefs makes a new wm with the old manila, it's always vice versa!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616294 Try this one,this rom has manila 2.1
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Hello all!!!
Iam sorry for new thread alocation, but I cant find any new rom (build) with old user interface (I mean classic TouchFlo3D which is included with official ROM)...
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You cant get the original tf3d for wm 6.5. youll have to settle for v2 or 2.1 (2.1 is the most common). the wm6.5 topix ROMs are supposed to be fast for windows mobile.
So I will try BLACKSTONEhenge (thanx for the link) I had 2.1/2.5 Sense, with 6.5/6.5.3 now with 6.1 I have TouchFlo3D 1.3.37395.0_1630.38 which is so speedy... I have in my hands Topay (Diamond 2) which has the same HW as our device, why Sense 2.5 is so speedy on this device while on our devices is so laggy and slow? Any one can answer this basic question?
I think if you use a COM2 build Sense 2.5 with WVGA-tweak will run as fast and smooth as on the Topaz.
Sense 2.5 was still intended to be Snapdragon-exclusive.
So footprints, landscape-pics etc... will maybe never work perfectly smooth.