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Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
I was updating my SPL and upon reboot I got the lovely looping T-Mobile G1 screen, camer+power, back+power, and menu+power all work, but I really have no clue what to do as to fix it, I am new to this, no I did not make a recover because I had just upgraded to Cyanogen's backup, wiping didn't seem to work, I think it was possibly because my rom was out of date? I have JFv1.51_CRB43-US, so my question to you guys is, could going out and buying another SD card and dropping a newer rom and putting the new card in my phone fix my problem?
If you were upgrading to the 1.33.2005 SPL, you need to reflash with whatever rom you are using. The SPL effectively wipes the rom out, so you need to put it back.
Yeah, I just read that in the fastboot for noobs thing, thanks for the info!
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Do I have to reboot with the exact same rom as before the SPL update?
In case you missed the key point, using that hacked SPL has the effect of WIPING ALL YOUR DATA, so how, if the data is shot, could it possibly care that you write the same thing onto it as it had before? Answer is that it DOESN'T. Now go ahead and write whatever you like to it.
Thanks, was just wondering. :x
Gotta learn one way or another.
I wannna know what is the right thing to do after you downgrade to Rc29 as in
Keeping your phone up to date to instal the latest cyanogenmod
Cuz it seems to me that everytime I do my mods there is always something wrong
Little but wrong ya know I want my phone to run as good as it can .
I'm currently running RC29 US (not rooted no mods at all)
Just waiting to see what's the best thing to do
Thx in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563679
Follow this to the T.
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
Haykuros SPL repartitions the phone so the System and Data partitions are both ~90mb
The bigger partition allows you to install bigger roms such as Hero
However, the HaykuroSPL has a high chance of bricking your phone permanently if you dont know what your doing....
The most important thing is to flash the 26I radio before the SPL
However, you can install the HardSPL now and install the HaykuroSPL when you feel your read
Zixx said:
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
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The death spl is the saphires spl. People load it on the g1's to be able to load a hero rom because the hero roms are bigger needing more space. When you load it on the phone it resizes the partitions to make more space. Thats the reason why you have to flash a rom right after the spl because it overwrites the existing rom. If I were you I would load hard spl first to get the hang of everything then try the danger spl. Many people have bricked there phone due to that spl, but if you do try it don't take any shortcuts and read read read.
What to do,what to do?
Well...I would advise you follow a tutorial or go to youtube and follow a video or video's on how to root and all that happy horsecrap.That's how I did it my first time. I watched videos,watched how others did it and then copied what they did on my phone. I successfully came out of it rooted,with the updated radio,Haykuro's SPL, and a Hero ROM that I could depend on at that time.Since then I have flashed so many different ROM's I can't even count all of them anymore. I would definitely root the phone first though. Possibly call T-MO and ask them for an unlock code for the phone as well as that will let you travel overseas with the phone and use it on other carriers too. Rooting is the way to go with the G1 nowadays. A whole new world opens up to you once the phone is rooted! Anyways...good luck at your beginning and keep up the work. If you end up bricking your phone,call T-MO and tell em one of their updates bricked your phone and you want a new one. Take it slow and do things right though man!
I was trying to load up my gf's G1 and I had a cyans newest rom and pretty much all was working good. Now my friend decided to try the boot screen flasher to load a custom boot image and well it was not working so he said that it was the SPL and I told him that not to worry about it...But he did it anyway and now when the phone loads it stays on the G1 screen. I tried to load into recovery (home+power) to see if I could nandroid but no dice. Any Ideas...I would like this to work by time she gets home as I am creating a playboy theme for her phone.
P.S. I decided to let my friend know not to touch my phones by a nice punch in the arm
P.P.S. I know I should search for this but I am time crunching thanks to my friend and need to get this working again for her ASAP
I would give him a little more than a punch.... if he flashed the SPL
and you cant get to the SPL (Cam+Power) or recovery (Home+Power)
then your phone is bricked....
just so you know... the boot screen flasher has two options..one for the standard/engineering/hardspl and another for the haykuro SPL
Yeah When I do camera power I still get the G1 screen
Sorry but this is a brick. Not fixable.
Try not to actually kill your friend, but he definitely deserves a serious beating.
There is one thing that's worked on a few magics/sapphires, but I don't think anyone's had it work on a g1.. you might as well give it a try since it's literally your only shot: You need to have fastboot drivers already installed and working on your pc and a copy of the engineering or hardspl.. plug your phone in by usb but don't switch it on and execute this command:
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
You should get the message "Waiting for device...", now hold [camera] power the phone on and hope. If it doesnt work, try pulling and reinserting the battery a few times. The idea is to get fastboot to recognise the phone before it trips up and start the flash, but as I said I don't know if this has ever worked on a g1. It has been reported that this is more likely to work with linux than windows as it reacts to usb devices much more quickly.
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Sorry but this is a brick. Not fixable.
Try not to actually kill your friend, but he definitely deserves a serious beating.
There is one thing that's worked on a few magics/sapphires, but I don't think anyone's had it work on a g1.. you might as well give it a try since it's literally your only shot: You need to have fastboot drivers already installed and working on your pc and a copy of the haykuro spl.. plug your phone in by usb but don't switch it on and execute this command:
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
You should get the message "Waiting for device...", now hold [camera] power the phone on and hope. If it doesnt work, try pulling and reinserting the battery a few times. The idea is to get fastboot to recognise the phone before it trips up and start the flash, but as I said I don't know if this has ever worked on a g1. It has been reported that this is more likely to work with linux than windows as it reacts to usb devices much more quickly.
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fastboot only works in the spl though. the radio never calls the spl if the radios outdated.
also, why would you want to send haykuros spl back on the phone, when thats what caused it to brick in the first place.
can you link me to where the magic people got it to work? because i doubt their brick is the same as this
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fastboot only works in the spl though. the radio never calls the spl if the radios outdated.
also, why would you want to send haykuros spl back on the phone, when thats what caused it to brick in the first place.
can you link me to where the magic people got it to work? because i doubt their brick is the same as this
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to the first part of your statement: thats our best guess but noone REALLY knows, so if you dont want off the wall, maybe fix your phone solutions, then go else where
and i do agree that using HARDSPL versus haykuro would prolly be better idea, but its worth a shot nonetheless, depends all on where the fastboot code exisits and where exactly the phones hang, if you have some specific details that the rest of us are missing then do SHARE
and from what ive heard you'll need to be running linux for the reasons above (windows being slow as balls to do anything, and "security" {hostility} protocols applied to the usb bus)
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fastboot only works in the spl though. the radio never calls the spl if the radios outdated.
also, why would you want to send haykuros spl back on the phone, when thats what caused it to brick in the first place.
can you link me to where the magic people got it to work? because i doubt their brick is the same as this
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That's what I thought til I saw this thread too, but the magics were spl bricks or I wouldn't have even posted it You're right tho, I meant to recommend hardspl, not haykuro's.. slip of the fingers. I've edited the post.
I'll try to find the magic thread again.. I can't quite remember where it was though..
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to the first part of your statement: thats our best guess but noone REALLY knows, so if you dont want off the wall, maybe fix your phone solutions, then go else where
and i do agree that using HARDSPL versus haykuro would prolly be better idea, but its worth a shot nonetheless, depends all on where the fastboot code exisits and where exactly the phones hang, if you have some specific details that the rest of us are missing then do SHARE
and from what ive heard you'll need to be running linux for the reasons above (windows being slow as balls to do anything, and "security" {hostility} protocols applied to the usb bus)
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what do you mean by no one already knows? We do know. i dont think youve been following xda very closely.
read the the threads that relate to the spl because all that info is already shared. Heres the summary
IPL>SPL>Android
when the link from IPL>SPL is broken.... there is nothing
Fastboot is on the SPL.
Its not "the rest of us" that don't know this....its just you
@Golden
Im surprised that hasnt been looked at yet. However..the spl bricks are probably very different from the ones on the G1
reason being is that Magic users are using Magic radios and Magic SPLs
These G1 bricks are from using G1 Radio and ported Magic SPL's
Technically, any magic radio should be compatible any magic spl
their bricks would easier to fix as the proper software is probably still on there while g1 may or may not recognize the software such as the magic spl
Hi everyone really sorry for opening a new thread for a G1 brick.
My G1 has stuck at the T-Mobile screen and on pressing Camera+Power i cant get into fastboot to restore using the .nbh file.
I am not able to get into recovery using power+home key also.
There has to be a way to get my dream back....
please please please help
JTAG or go for a replacement. I'm guessing it's a DangerSPL brick, right?
Danger SPL
Yes dude....
i have done this so many time.....
this time i forgot to update the radio first and this is stuck....
Someone should have a solution for this....
I read many thread which say use it as a paperweight...
I am not loosing hope....
XDA Member will have some solution.....
Maybe you should try to keep current on developments.
There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
As for your "poll"... what do you expect to learn from something like this? Do you realize that any numbers you get will be completely MEANINGLESS?
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Maybe you should try to keep current on developments.
There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
As for your "poll"... what do you expect to learn from something like this? Do you realize that any numbers you get will be completely MEANINGLESS?
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By adding the poll I am just trying to avoid post which says hey even i have the same problem.
I was upgrading to cm 5 which needs deathspl.
chinmayfun said:
I was upgrading to cm 5 which needs deathspl.
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Aaaaannnnnd.... it doesn't need it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704560
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There is NOT A SINGLE REASON to use the deathspl.
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Sure there is as its one if the few full engineering spls. And I don't think your latest development will ever be quite as user friendly (however some more configuration it will be very close)
The real user friendly fix/patch for 1.33.2005 (those that know what they are doing can decide if any benifit of the spl exists) is an assertion statement in the recovery script to check the radio version is not one of the two common 1.x ones.
(the evil patch is to make the assertion somehow also autoinstall the lattest Rogers e911 patched rom if the user has the 1.x radio. Because atm the rogers rom appears to be very safe from the user messing up the boot chain.. actually we may need to "perfect" the spl a bit more I think it will let us erase hboot)
I am still a newb to the android scene - and do believe I as well made the same mistake - and have bricked my G1.
If eveything I've read is accurate, I can purchase a donor phone - broken screen, or other issues - so long as the mother board is still good.
Swap out the new mother board for the bricked one, and have a working phone again - right ?
Have an opportunity on a donor phone - have no issues pulling phones apart, and putting them back together
But just want to make sure I understand the basics
Thanks in advance for any replies
Motherboard only option ?
Is replacing the motherboard the only option left ?
I am not sure i would be able to do that
Worst day of my life i screwed up big time
Any help is appreciated.
Some tool to recover back to original.
I can understand there is no way to repair as I am not able to get into recovery nor fastboot so cant adb also...
youtube
i checked the below video bt this is kinda a complicated and nt a solution for me
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i checked the below video bt this is kinda a complicated and nt a solution for me
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There is no tool to get it back except by the options listed above. If you are not going to switch the mobos in the G1 then you won't be able to do the other option either. There is no software that can bring your G1 back after a deathspl.
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There is no tool to get it back except by the options listed above. If you are not going to switch the mobos in the G1 then you won't be able to do the other option either. There is no software that can bring your G1 back after a deathspl.
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Thanks....
i will have to plan out on buying a new android....
had waited for a long time to get tht android phone from a friend in usa....
now there are many android phones available in india.... will have to start saving some money.... cant live without an android....
hey,
i had the same prob.
only thing,
mine bricke in cause of a radio update,
i tried all which was in my head,
and all i can do
but after some nights spending to my phone i found this:
i copied my nand backup to root of sd,
and connected it to pc
first he told me, device not known
so i tried to boot the modified recovery,
and *tada* i was in recovery mode,
plz try and tell me if it fix your problem,
for mine it did
best regards,
psycho
Mine is also due to radio update dude, before flashing spl the radio has to be flashed i and forgot to do that.
Will try out your suggestion, just hoping that it work and my g1 is back to life.
Ne ways appreciate your suggestion.
Please let me know if you were able to get into recovery mode prior to putting the files on the sd card.
And if you could tell me the list of files (if u had nething other then the nand update) which you put on the sd card, i can replicate the exact process.
Thanks,
Chinmay
Hope
Is there any hope to get the G1 back to life from the Death SPL Brick ?
You should read instructions carefully man. Its not that hard. You should always verify that you have a compatible radio before flashing DangerSPL.
There is a method to recover your device and it involves a lot of time and patience. Google "JTAG".
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
"JTAG".
me too, my G1 Bricked (Not able to fastboot). but i wanna know if the JTAG method work 100%.please.