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How to avoid brick when updating to Haykuro's SPL.

Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.

Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.

Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.

Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.

no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.

Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.

Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:

keatonreckard said:
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?

Please Assist - Questions..... (roms / g1)

ok - i have a G1 ... fully functional etc
anyway - i started looking into putting SenseUI on it - and then about 15mins ago came across the cyanogen thread and became very intrigured....
i have a couple questions
1. with the latest release of the ROM, is the phone fully functional?? - no restrictions etc? tmo doesnt mind or restrict you etc? - i still want all features working
2. is there a step by step on installing the rom? - i looked around a bit but found multiple conflicting instructions/recommendations -
3. WORST case scenario, can i always go right back to where im at now? - official tmo/google release, fully functional, normal g1? - or am i stuck
my biggest concern is ruining the phone - im just getting in to G1 editing etc - ive always been too nervous because its my main phone and only phone - but i used to do all kinds of crazy things with my old blackberry - beta releases from overseas etc etc - just havent gotten the balls to mess with my g1
but ill be honest, i hate the iphone (not sure why) - but im getting kind of fed up with the G1 - i love it, dont get me wrong - but the add-ons/functions i read in cyans rom intrigured me a lot
so with all this being said - please answer my questions listed above
i dont care so much about the files/apps - i can always re-download the apps i use etc... and the pics/vids i can back up to my pc
thanks in advance!!!!

the current stable release of cyanogen's rom in 4.0.1 and it is very stable and much faster than stock cupcake. the only thing missing as far as i can tell is the myfaves app. but i do not care bc i can update that online. everything in market works. plus many extras from donut.
are you rooted? if not, go to the market.
search for recovery flasher.
download it.
then go to cyanogen's thread and download 4.0.1.
put it on the root of your sdcard (upmost folder).
use the recovery flasher app to apply cyanogen's recovery image 1.4 on your phone.
power off your phone.
hold home and power to boot into recovery.
it should have a green android with text in front of it.
go to flash any .zip.
select the 4.0.1 file you put on your sdcard from above.
hit home to apply it.
after it finishes and tells you to reboot the phone then select reboot phone on the menu.
let the phone boot up.
may take 5 to 10 minutes.
then look into partitioning your sdcard for apps2sd and a linux-swap partition if you want those options.
yes you can easily revert the phone to stock rom like you never rooted it.
when you boot the phone up the first time, if you get a lot of force closes then boot into recovery.
go to the recovery console
hit enter
type fix_permissions
then type reboot
if that does not work then you will have to wipe the phone from the recovery menu and re-flash the rom
any other questions

trying it now - (crosses fingers)

its been on the NEW adroid splash screen ( the one with the android on a skateboard) for a while now... it stops highlighting once in a while and flashes off - then starts again... its been about 7-8mins i think..... is this normal?

got it!
thanks!!!

your welcome. did you have root or did you use the recovery flasher app? because if you used the recovery flasher app there is a quick question i have

i didnt have root at all prior to me trying this tonight

something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.

david1171 said:
something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.
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Thanks for the step by step guide David...
I would like to ask a question on ROM types. I am currently using JF's 1.51. I have no problem with this (occasional force closes, which I suspect is from the SetCPU app). I have hearing lots of updates from CyanogenMod's ROM. What are the main differences? From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks

erlern said:
From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks
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sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily

David, Thanks for this. Just for kicks. If i want to reset to the factory defaults all I need to select is the "wipe data/factory reset" from recovery?

I think my post just disappeared...anyway... David, Just for kicks, If I need the phone back to original settings, I need to select the "wipe data/factory default" option in recovery? This will keep the new recovery method, just deletes the rom?

You will keep the recovery image. Yes it will just clear you data and stuff off the phone. Things like recovery image, SPL, and radio do not get wiped. If you do wipe just reflash a rom and you will be good to go.
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david1171 said:
sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily
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I like your SPL on your signiture. Im guessing its the danger SPL

Yeah it references the danger spl lol. I think thats the feeling that anyone gets when flashing it. I know i was like i really hope this works or i'm going to be sad.

Original question(s) seem to be solved.
Closing thread

want hero rom

running cyanogen 4.01, but i want to run one of the hero roms but i cannot for some unknown reason install the new spl. my question is does cyanogen have any hero roms or after numerous attempts how do i get the new spl.tried at least 3 different methods.

Do you have cyanogen's recovery image? If so, do not use the trackball to reboot the phone or even apply the spl, rename it to update.zip, then flash it with the keyboard commands, also do not go to the reocvery console to reboot, you must use home and back to reboot the phone or else the spl will not write. I have had this problem before and that is how i fixed it.

Cyan does not make any hero roms, what do you mean that you can not get the spl for it, do you also have the newest radio flashed, gotta give some more info

radio
i have 2.22.19.26I radio. if that is wrong then i just need to find the right one. and i will do that.

I believe that is the correct radio, so just follow david's solution then

quick question with fastboot

I apparently screwed some things up in my attempt to upgrade to Cyanogenmod 4.1.99 so I can move to 4.2.3. . . anyway, I now have the HTC bootloader up with fastboot, the standard Android recovery, and HTC ADP 1.6 DRC83 firmware installed, and its up and running. I don't have root, and I am completely lost as to how to get root back, get cm-recovery 1.4 back, and from there, I should be ok...
I do have DREAMING.nbh on my sd, and when i go into fastboot(pwr+camera) It gives me a list:
Parsing. . .[DREAMING.nbh]
[1] BOOTLOADER
[2] RECOVERY
[3] BOOT
[4] SPLASH1
[5] SYSTEM
[6] USERDATA
[7] RADIO_V2
Do you want to start update?
<ACTION> Yes
<Power> No
This is where I don't know if I should do anything without advice, as I don't want to brick my G1 any further
Anyone care to help out?

if you messed up like i did a few months back , and lost root because you flashed the htc recovery image and didn't flash cyan's rom on top of it then...i can help. i'm assuming you lost root on your rom because of that, and when you rebooted it took out cyan's recovery image as well, so you can no longer flash anything else into your phone. Alright! first thing's first, is we need to have a look at what spl you're using, take out that dreaming.nbh file from your sd, you won't need it, instead, put on a recovery image like cyanogen's 1.4 or amon ra's 1.2.3 (i suggest the latter)
anyways , you're gonna have to have the hard spl/ engineering spl/ or the haykuro "death/danger" spl installed on your phone. I'm going to assume you have at least one of these, because if you don't and you have the stock spl that's a different story. If you have the stock spl for some reason, you are gonna have to downgrade your phone like you did when you first got root. Research the forums , there are loads of guides on how to downgrade your phone, go to the section that specifically talks about using the bootloader to restore the dreaming.nbh file.
if you do have either the hardspl, death, or engineering's spl,
you need to search the forums on how to use fastboot and adb
you're gonna need to push the recovery image file (cyan's or amon_ra's)
into your phone and wahpow!
you're in the green, once you have the recovery image back in the phone, you can boot into it and flash w.e the hell you want

phamous said:
if you messed up like i did a few months back , and lost root because you flashed the htc recovery image and didn't flash cyan's rom on top of it then...i can help. i'm assuming you lost root on your rom because of that, and when you rebooted it took out cyan's recovery image as well, so you can no longer flash anything else into your phone. Alright! first thing's first, is we need to have a look at what spl you're using, take out that dreaming.nbh file from your sd, you won't need it, instead, put on a recovery image like cyanogen's 1.4 or amon ra's 1.2.3 (i suggest the latter)
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You hit the nail on the head!
phamous said:
anyways , you're gonna have to have the hard spl/ engineering spl/ or the haykuro "death/danger" spl installed on your phone. I'm going to assume you have at least one of these, because if you don't and you have the stock spl that's a different story. If you have the stock spl for some reason, you are gonna have to downgrade your phone like you did when you first got root. Research the forums , there are loads of guides on how to downgrade your phone, go to the section that specifically talks about using the bootloader to restore the dreaming.nbh file.
if you do have either the hardspl, death, or engineering's spl,
you need to search the forums on how to use fastboot and adb
you're gonna need to push the recovery image file (cyan's or amon_ra's)
into your phone and wahpow!
you're in the green, once you have the recovery image back in the phone, you can boot into it and flash w.e the hell you want
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I know that I had HardSPL on at one time, would everything that has happened somehow remove it, and how can I check if its still there?
I will likely use Cyanogen's recovery. If possible, link me to a good "howto" on loading Cyanogen from Fastboot.

alright, to check what spl you have, turn off your phone and hold camera and the power on button,
you'll go into your bootloader, and it will display what spl you're running
it's been a while since i remember what numbers belong to what spl, but as long as you don't see the multicolored spl, and you see like three little android bugs on the bottom, you're good to go
uhm i kinda saved random links to things that i used, you're gonna have to read all these documents and learn all about adb, it's worth it in the long run, and there's no better time to learn it now since it's your only hope of getting root back.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/adb-fastboot-for-rookies-18124/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
BUT ANYWAYS
OMG i just found the best guide to your problem right here
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/RE-recovery-img
^^ that is GOLD!
hope this helps buddy!

DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Thats all it gives me, but there are 3 Androids on skateboards at the bottom, and its a all white screen.
I cant seem to get the SDK to work, let alone install on my PC here(Damnit Vista, I can't wait for my copy of Win7 Pro to get here!!!!) so I might just let it charge up overnight, check here in the morning and give it a whirl on my laptop with XP. Hopefully, I can get this all taken care of. You have been a world of help so far. Just keep an eye out for some updates here tomorrow.

SAME HERE wow, couldn't get the damn sdk to work on vista either
GO XP
that's what i did, worked instantly, find someone with xp and ask them to let you borrow it for about an hour
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you have an appropriate spl btw, it'll be able to fastboot correctly
in the meantime, i'd read up on those links i sent you, especially the last one,
and you'll be good!
goodluck!

ok, looks like I got the SDK to work on here, and I have it updating right now. Its first update was the USB driver. If anyone has some time, and wants to send me a IM over AIM to help me out with this, please IM me.
I am going to let this update, and then hope that I can get it to flash cm-recovery back onto the phone.

cm-recovery 1.4 is BACK! OK! AWESOME
god this had me abit scared.
Ok, back to the prior task at hand. at this point, can I update to CyanogenMod 4.1.99 then update to 4.2.3, or can I update this directly to 4.2.3?

ok, you cant update directly to 4.2.3 XD

Ok, awesome, ive got cm-recovery 1.4, and Cyanogenmod 4.2.3.1 up and running. Time to give Cyanogen some credit. this firmware is FAST!
Also, I want to thank everyone that has helped out with my issue. you are all worthy of a beer...I just aint got any money to pay for a beer for you all right now XD

So... Would this work? [G1]

Hello everyone.
I have done a lot of reading and searching regarding rooting a G1. There are so many guides and resources out there I was wondering if you guys could point me to the best (safest?) way to do it.
I have been thinking of rooting it for months due to the benefits I can get once I have done it but the thought of bricking it has been stopping me from doing it. I want to get it over with now and would appreciate if you guys can point me to the best guide and the best rom (I know there is many, I would like speed, stability and some nice features would be cool). I have a G1, I live in the UK and it is supplied by T-Mobile. I keep it up to date with the OTA updates so I think I will have to downgrade which I believe is shown in most guides? If there is any info you guys need, please say.
I would be really thankful if I got some help, it's not something I want to do without proper knowledge (which all of you have). Is it easy enough to do if I follow the instructions and make sure my battery is charged enough?
Also, can we in the UK flash the radio, is that meant to be tampered with, what are the pros and cons of doing that?
Thank you so much.
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Please look at post #6, I made a list of what I think I need to do.

I would suggest finding the 1-click root to make it easy for you. Then, flash the 1.6 HTC image like all builds based off of Cyanogen's build environment require now and then flash @wesgarner's build for the fastest most stable build available.

Here's how to root your phone... nice and simple....
The one click root doesn't work if you've upgraded your phone to the OTA 1.6 update.
So the old instructions would be a safe bet since i don't know if you have 1.5 or 1.6.
Follow these instructions: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/20/how-to-root-your-g1/
Then upgrade your radio and SPL from here: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/22/upgrade-radio-recovery-spl/
Then if you want to upgrade to the newest CM build do this:
Before you install the Cyanogenmod 4.2.7.1 ROM you need to install the HTC 1.6 Dev Rom first.
HTC took it off their website, i have it uploaded on my site...
do this: ( This is for HTC Dream (G1) )
CLEAR YOUR EXT PARTITION or REPARTITION YOUR CARD to get rid of any Incompatible files.
Download CM 4.2.7.1 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=17
Download HTC Dream Image 1.6 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=6
Place them both on the root of your SDCard.
Reboot your phone into recovery mode...
1. WIPE
2. Install HTC Dream Image
3. Hit Reboot when it's done (and keep an eye on the phone!)
4. you will see the little picture with an arrow (radio installation), WHEN YOU SEE THE PHONE REBOOT HOLD THE HOME KEY. It should reboot right back into recovery.
5. Now install the CM ROM
6. Reboot and you're done...
Hope that helps!

http://androidoverdrive.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7

Thank you all for the information and links.
I have been doing a lot more reading today and think I might go with Dwang's rom. From what I understand (to do it the quick way) I need to revert my G1 back to Cupcake (RC7 for europe?) from Donut 1.6. Then Download the recovery flasher and flash a recovery image, do I use Amon Ra's? Do I then load the rom, then the theme afterwards? I hear people mentioning the radio, is it a necessity for the G1 that I mess with the radio? Is it easy to brick the phone doing it this way?
Thanks again for the help and understanding .

After watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCG9XhFmoEw
Could you guys tell me if this would work?
1. Format my SDCard. Transfer the old android (RC7?) image, Amon Ra's recovery image, Dwerg's rom and a nice theme made for the rom to the SD card.
2. Can I use the telnet thing to flash the Aman Ra recovery image?
3. Power off.
4. Power on holding the camera button and the power button and then downgrade my version. Reboot.
5. Turn on and set up my google info. Press enter twice and type "telnetd" and press enter. Proceed to the market and download the telnet app.
6. Run the app, and type in what's needed to flash the new recovery image. Again, can I use Aman Ra's? I'm unsure what to type but I will try and figure it out.
7. Power off.
8. Power on holding the Home and power keys, which should bring me to the new recovery image.
9. If I am flashing Dwerg's do I need to flash 1.6 first like you need to do for CM? Or is that a CM only thing? Flash the rom.
That should be it? Would doing it that way work ok? Less chance of bricking? There was no mention of radio flashing or anything.
Hopefully you guys can help me out.