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Dear all,
I have an idea to share with all my fellow Kaiser user. Since we have a camera, why don't we make use of it to check the ambience light and auto adjust the backlight according to the level of brightness sensed by the camera. Also, using the front camera, it should not be hard to check the orientation of the ppc, it would be nice if PIE or and browser adjust itself like the iphone did.
Just my 0.02. Hope this idea can help.
Elton
your idea is good, but has some "design flaws":
1. the camera adjusts the overall brightness automatically, so if this can't be disabled, it would be useless.
2. if you would point the camera at a white wall or a black something you would get different overall luminance, even if the ambient light is the same. again, useless.
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2. if you would point the camera at a white wall or a black something you would get different overall luminance, even if the ambient light is the same. again, useless.
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Is there another parameter which is detectable which could allow for such a problem?
Dunno how to program at all, just thinking...
...what a bunch of tightarses these companies are not using a transflective screen.
Joe
RPG0 said:
your idea is good, but has some "design flaws":
1. the camera adjusts the overall brightness automatically, so if this can't be disabled, it would be useless.
2. if you would point the camera at a white wall or a black something you would get different overall luminance, even if the ambient light is the same. again, useless.
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the camera autoadjusts brightness for the picture you are taking, not for what it actually receives...
This application does exist for the PalmOS (caled BrightCam) and works beautifully. I truly miss this app on my Kaiser now. I wil inquire with the developer if he has plans on anyting for WM.
the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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To add on to that the phone also goes to sleep when the call is connected and its just a matter of pressing the power button to get it to wake up again.
mine doesnt
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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is there a setting for this?
is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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It should be possible, but no one has done anything with the light sensor of turning it back on. I'm thinking that the polling of the light sensor turns off when the screen is in standby. If we can somehow get that to work in only incall (so it doesn't have battery issues), then it should work, when it goes from little light to more light, it should act as close to phone to far away from phone.
One could even use 2 sensors for it? Maybe the Light-Sensor and the G-Sensor. So when u bring the phone to your ear the light gets dark an the position upright. (the phone turns the screen off) And as soon as it get brighter and the position is change to normal (whatever that is ) it turns back on.
I reall would love to write something like that. But so far i have no clue of writing anything for that phone. Does anyone know a tutorial for writing software for a pda?
Thx
Come on guys this would be soooo great
jok3sta said:
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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It doesn't actually do that when you put it up to your ear. It's a WinMo setting to put the phone in standby after a call is launched or received. What you preceive as behavior is actually a timing thing.
The guy from pocket shield managed to combine these two sensors, g-sensor and light sensor, to work together as locking/unlocking behavior.
maybe some g-sensor and lumos code can handle this thing... and create one cab solution here...
if some one could write this code it would be an AWESOME addition to the Phone. I would personaly love this as im sure many others would.
Thanks.
this is a bit late, but here's a cool app that i've found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
no its not too late. if people look around they would have found it.
aonavy said:
the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
warri said:
searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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reading is your friend..look at the dates posted
Hello everyone, I'm new to these forums as well as a new Xperia X1 owner.
I love pretty much everything about this phone except I find one issue that doesn't seem up to par to my previous phones and I can't seem to find a way to adjust it.
Basically, if there is a missed call or a new text that I don't see right away, and my phone goes black (stand by), the 4 lights that light up around the phone seem to have really long intervals and barely flash. I feel like I have to stare at the phone for a good 5 seconds before I see a flash and it's not even that bright.
Is there an adjustment that I'm not seeing, or a way to adjust the intervals and brightness? I can't be the only one with this problem, my old phones had very bright and quickly blinking lights.
Thank you.
advanced config offers some options on that (at least patterns, not sure on brightness), illumineria in themes&apss even more
have a look, best
Is anyone having any trouble with setting screen mode to vivid?
When I switch to vivid, the entire screen becomes very orange, to a degree that something is clearly wrong. It looks like the blue light filter is turned on, even though it isn't. And turning on the blue light filter makes it much worse. It's like there is a single application of blue light filter permanently active, and then a full second layer being added when actually turning the blue light filter on.
This is coming from someone who generally runs Warm1 or Warm2 settings on my TVs and monitors. This isn't just a warm white, this is distinctly orange. Changing back to natural brings the white levels back to a normal level that I would say is pretty neutral, if not slightly warm.
When set to vivid, changing the white balance between warm and cool does almost nothing; the change is so subtle that you have to actually flip back and forth several times to notice it. And changing the RGB in advanced settings does absolutely nothing.
A couple other facts to note:
- I do not have any type of screen protector; the one that was on the phone out-of-the-box has been removed.
- This isn't just related to the angle at which I am viewing the phone; it is consistently orange from every possible angle.
- Blue light filter, night mode, and adaptive brightness are all turned off.
Is anyone else experiencing this, or is it just on my end? I have restarted the phone several times. I would really like to avoid a factory reset if possible.
i find mine to be more warm in natural mode however is been known that the screens on the S10 are much warmer than s9/n9 due to the reduction in blue light
if in vivid mode - please access the manual setup maybe the red is setup to max or something
Check that you do not have night light also selected in the drop down settings, as the s10 already has blue light filter reduction.
Mine was like that originally. Had to install Play Books and then turn off it's version of night mode. Seems that even though I didn't install it on this phone, it's night mode somehow still carried over.
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i find mine to be more warm in natural mode however is been known that the screens on the S10 are much warmer than s9/n9 due to the reduction in blue light
if in vivid mode - please access the manual setup maybe the red is setup to max or something
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As I said in my post, it doesn't matter what I set the RGB values to, they make no difference. And the whites look just fine in Natural mode, so it's not the screen, it's a software issue.
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Check that you do not have night light also selected in the drop down settings, as the s10 already has blue light filter reduction.
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As I already said in my post, the blue light filter is turned off. It's off in the quick settings and off in the actual settings. I can turn it on and it doubles the problem; turning it back off returns to the normal problem.
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Mine was like that originally. Had to install Play Books and then turn off it's version of night mode. Seems that even though I didn't install it on this phone, it's night mode somehow still carried over.
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I've never used Play Books before. Installed it just now and there's no night mode in it.
So it looks like the bug is tied to setting a schedule for the blue light filter. This morning the overly orange effect was gone. It seems likely that the setting somehow carried over from my previous phone and stayed separate from the one on this phone. Unfortunately, this probably means I will need to factory reset because there is no way of accessing this second schedule.
I won't be the only person that has carried over data from a previous phone and used a scheduled blue light filter. I hope Samsung fixes this in an update so that others don't have to deal with it.
In Play Books, open any free book and click on
then disable the schedule and hit turn it off now if it's on
Edit: screenshots aren't showing up for some reason. Anyway open any free book, tap in the middle of the page to bring up the menu bar at the top, tap on "Aa" and then night light settings. Set the schedule to "None" and hit end now if your screen is currently orange.
My wife has never installed Play Books, and that still fixed it for her.
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In Play Books, open any free book and click on
then disable the schedule and hit turn it off now if it's on
Edit: screenshots aren't showing up for some reason. Anyway open any free book, tap in the middle of the page to bring up the menu bar at the top, tap on "Aa" and then night light settings. Set the schedule to "None" and hit end now if your screen is currently orange.
My wife has never installed Play Books, and that still fixed it for her.
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Good to know, thanks. If the issue comes back again tonight, I will try this.
I think there is some hidden night mode in android which Play Books ties into. My wife's old Pixel had a night mode setting in the settings app which she had set up, and the new S10 night mode looks entirely different. Think copying settings and accounts over brought the hidden night mode settings over, and Play Books is just the easiest way to access that hidden setting.
The Play Books trick worked. Thanks guys!
Exactly like @lightmastertech said, the vanilla Android night mode settings are hidden but still active, and it carried over from my Pixel 3. Play Books allowed me to access this menu (odd that it's still there, 100% intact) and disable it.
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The Play Books trick worked. Thanks guys!
Exactly like @lightmastertech said, the vanilla Android night mode settings are hidden but still active, and it carried over from my Pixel 3. Play Books allowed me to access this menu (odd that it's still there, 100% intact) and disable it.
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Google's gonna get a lot of downloads for Play Books now, lol. Only app I could find that accessed the system night mode an not its own filter overlay. Glad it worked for you man! ?
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Is anyone having any trouble with setting screen mode to vivid?
When I switch to vivid, the entire screen becomes very orange, to a degree that something is clearly wrong. It looks like the blue light filter is turned on, even though it isn't. And turning on the blue light filter makes it much worse. It's like there is a single application of blue light filter permanently active, and then a full second layer being added when actually turning the blue light filter on.
This is coming from someone who generally runs Warm1 or Warm2 settings on my TVs and monitors. This isn't just a warm white, this is distinctly orange. Changing back to natural brings the white levels back to a normal level that I would say is pretty neutral, if not slightly warm.
When set to vivid, changing the white balance between warm and cool does almost nothing; the change is so subtle that you have to actually flip back and forth several times to notice it. And changing the RGB in advanced settings does absolutely nothing.
A couple other facts to note:
- I do not have any type of screen protector; the one that was on the phone out-of-the-box has been removed.
- This isn't just related to the angle at which I am viewing the phone; it is consistently orange from every possible angle.
- Blue light filter, night mode, and adaptive brightness are all turned off.
Is anyone else experiencing this, or is it just on my end? I have restarted the phone several times. I would really like to avoid a factory reset if possible.
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I have a s10+ and just noticed I have the same exact issue. I posted earlier on the s10+ forums.. Natural looks much cooler
Nevermind.. the playbook trick worked. I came from a pixel and had the blue light setting turned on much earlier than my s10+. Thanks @lightmastertech @Sevael
Wow, just wow. Ran into this tonight for the first time because I wanted to try out the Vivid colour mode. What an amateur oversight by Samsung to not prevent the stock night mode from running. For those that want to have access to this setting without Play Books, you can use Quick Shortcut Maker and just search for Night Light, then launch the returned result. It will put you right into the stock Night Light mode.
Sevael said:
The Play Books trick worked. Thanks guys!
Exactly like @lightmastertech said, the vanilla Android night mode settings are hidden but still active, and it carried over from my Pixel 3. Play Books allowed me to access this menu (odd that it's still there, 100% intact) and disable it.
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Can you now change the color temperature after play book trick? I cannot still change it.
I just had to bump this because of the absolute cavalcade of potential issues that can cause the screen to appear tinted. I've googled this for almost a year now after only noticing the yellowing of my screen when in Google photos. Then the random tinting was happening at sunset and every forum pointed to blue light, vivid setting, night modes etc... To find this elusive setting in play books of all places, to fix an issue that's plagued me through my last 3 devices, to the note 10 I'm on now, and it's finally fixed. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
I have only just bought an S10, and I have the same issue as OP. I have installed play books and followed instructions on this thread, but can't find in on play books night light settings set the "schedule" to "none" and hit end now.
Thank you so much ! Same happened to my FOLD - You solved it for me !
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In Play Books, open any free book and click on
then disable the schedule and hit turn it off now if it's on
Edit: screenshots aren't showing up for some reason. Anyway open any free book, tap in the middle of the page to bring up the menu bar at the top, tap on "Aa" and then night light settings. Set the schedule to "None" and hit end now if your screen is currently orange.
My wife has never installed Play Books, and that still fixed it for her.
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You are a genius - I had this happen to my new Galaxy Fold - it suddenly became warm and dim and I couldnt figure out what happened - Searched forums and found your solution - This must be pinned in all SAMSUNG forums
Thanks !
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Can you now change the color temperature after play book trick? I cannot still change it.
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Did you find out the solution?
Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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Also choose a darker theme for the keyboard.
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That's why it kept happening for me... The I turn it to light mode and then the burn in goes away!
Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
There is no burn in with AMOLEDs; they have a finite lifespan and get dimmer as they age before finally failing after many 10's of thousands hours.
Don't over drive them by using them at maximum or near maximum levels.
High energy blue pixels are the most susceptible to damage, red the least because of its longer wavelength.
Use manual brightness control. Avoid going much over 50%.
Using full brightness reduces pixel lifespan as probably does high temperatures ie direct sunlight.
Limit usage at full brightness by the second*.
Using manual control ensures you're aware of it and keeps the phone from auto jacking it up on you when not really needed.
Turn it down in low light; don't burn out your retina's as they aren't replaceable.
Use dark mode whenever possible. Use dark or black wallpaper. You Good Lock to get rid of the stutus bar icons; simply use the pull down notification screen.
My 10+ gets heavy usage every day with a lot of keyboard time. At 15+ months there is no discernible weakness or dead pixels of any color at any brightness level.
*this is especially important with static images
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Dark mode will help reduce it, but I leave my phone set to auto switch light and dark mode based on sunrise and sunset, this way whatever app I'm using also switches, so the light and dark apps, flip button colours as well so anything white on a black screen also becomes black on a white screen so it helps reverse any burnin in that sense too.
For example, texting apps usually also have white icons at the top which can burn in with dark mode, so if you switch to light mode, the same icons are now black on a white screen, so the screen burns but the icons don't, so it all slowly burns in together and nothing becomes noticeable.
Been doing this after getting burnin on my S10+ using only darkmode and light icons left burnin. And then on my S20 Ultra I did the flipping light and dark mode and never had issues but I also had the full screen settings to hide the pinhole camera so it made the entire top black, and then One UI 3.0 came out and they removed that option so now you can't hide the pinhole camera and I had a burnin bar across the top from where it was black lol.
Now on my S21 Ultra I have the light and dark mode set to flip at sun rise and sun set, and I can't hide the pin hole so maybe third phone is the charm here and I won't have any burnin at all this time haha.
Hope this helps.
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you say you had burn in from keeping a black bar in the area where the pinhole was?
that doesnt make any sense. If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Get Gboard, And change it to a dark skin, I've never had any problems
sesnut said:
If it was black those pixels were off and there wouldnt be any burn in
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Reverse burn in, the screen area being used has a yellowish tone to it from being worn in over time, no matter how long the display is on, it's always burning in and the colour always adjusts over time from the burn in, it's the image retention burn in that people talk about, but the entire screen is always burning the entire time it's used. So by never using the top area the pixels are fresh and have a cooler tone to them than the rest of the screen as a result of this.
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Might help if you keep the brightness on the lower side, other than that seems like catch22
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Indeed. And to add, perhaps occasionally change from white to black keyboard to even things out.
This is a good one. Says something about fast charging and not showing this message again. Guess they forgot to check don’t show again.
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
No offence but:
Pay 1.2K for phone after you see super HDR, huge brightness etc. and then limit everything to minimum? Seriously?
If I see them, I will ask EE(my phone provider) to replace it. I had same issue with OP 7 Pro, screen burn ins, they have replaced phone.
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Some countries like the UK have better consumer laws than others.
Sukrith said:
Hello all, my past 3 AMOLED phones have been facing burn-in where the keyboard is displayed as I tend to chat a lot! Can anyone give me an option to avoid it? Please don't troll and say use less keyboard!
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From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
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From normal use there will be no burnin. However, if you keep your display on showing the keboard all the time it will burn in. Also pixels start to burn in once they are on
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Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Mate - I had burn ins on my screen from things like clock etc, you cannot get rid of them, and it is a design flown, as long there is nothing in instruction etc.
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Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
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Samsung shifts the AOD clock to help prevent this. However I use only tap on AOD now.
Perps know the deal, organic LEDs have a finite lifespan. Yeah you can drive your car as fast as it will go but you probably don't because you know it wouldn't last very long.
You wonder why the price tag keeps going up?
Freebies are never free.
Using in direct sunlight or at 80+% is just asking for it. In most cases completely avoidable. One can at least limit the time of use at full brightness and not have a homescreen that looks like a Vegas billboard.
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So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
So they should not sell them in countries like Spain etc as there is too much sun
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Common sense should prevail I guess. I live in a place hotter than Spain. If I were to use my device in the middle of the day in bright sun light it’ll cook after 15mins. Hence why I don’t. But then would any other device.
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I live in Texas desert, the sun here is intense.
It burns out LED traffic lights all the time; OLEDs are far less tolerant.
Simply use in the shade.
The individual pixels are microscopic. That they work at all is amazing let alone being capable of high lumen output with extremely excellent color/gamma rendering.
The AMOLED matrix has 10's of thousands of active solid state components not just the OLED pixels themselves. All are hest sensitive plus the fact the display is helping to dissipate mobo heat while producing heat of it's own. The most heat sensitive component, the OLED is smack on top of this glass heatsink*.
Direct sunlight in especially high ambient temperatures is a real bad plan. You can fry any display like this.
Know, understand and respect their limitations. You will be rewarded with a long lived gorgeous display.
*glass is a good thermal insulator. Do tempered glass protective screens increase the thermal burden? Most likely. If cool at first the added mass will be protective but once the device (or the sun) heats that mass up things will go down hill from there and the display temperature will rapidly climb.
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And this was me think you lived in the Mojave desert.