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Windows Mobile 6.5 Build 23034

This new Build brings significant changes to the Start Menu button which has now been moved to the bottom and the taskbar (or the status bar) on the top looks smaller like it is on Android and iPhone. Other changes includes the removal of scrollbar from the dial pad and the refined magnified taskbar (or the status bar) which comes up when you touch on it.
These new changes have clearly been done as a part of Microsoft’s ongoing effort to make Windows Phones more finger friendly. You can go ahead and test-drive this new Build on your Windows Phone, capable of running Windows Mobile 6.5.
NOTE: Windows Mobile 6.5 Build 23034 is time bombed. You must use patched shell32.exe (download link given below) to avoid expiration of this build.
http://keznews.com/6122_Windows_Mobile_6_5_Build_23034

how do you install it

Ditto to the how do you install it bit. Does it need to be cooked into a custom rom ?

The ROM must be custom cooked to work with a particular phone. From what I can tell it is a VGA version of WM 6.5.
Thanks for the heads up anyway.

Guess we should give the heads up to those that do the cooking and see what comes back to us. I downloaded but, since can't use it pre-cooked, not much to do with it.

jarroyo said:
Guess we should give the heads up to those that do the cooking and see what comes back to us. I downloaded but, since can't use it pre-cooked, not much to do with it.
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Yeah, I'm sure the cookers are looking for new ingredients anyway, probably old news.

the link from keznews is broken now, could you please come up with the same file???
is this the last update????
Manuel.

Check the "Development And Hacking" section for the newest builds, actually it is 23409!

What is the latest?
I haven't seen anything posted for the Treo since 8/9 - is there anything later? I know that navenroob was supposed to update last month but that thread has been silent. I would like to be able to update to 6.5 again (I have updated to it before but there were too many bugs for me to keep it.), I have gone back to 6.1 but would really like to upgrade. Any news?
In an aside, I would like some homescreen updates.
J

Recommendation needed: WM 6.5.1 Rom

Hi everyone, Not been here in awhile, lots has moved on
I am after a Windows Mobile 6.5.1 Rom for My T-Mobile Compact IV (Touch Diamond) but need a recommendation.
I am looking for a Rom that has the following features still in it:
> QuickGPS
> YouTube
> RSS Hub
> Voice Dialing
> Remote Desktop
> Facebook app would be nice
> Windows Live Messenger
> Opera
> Latest (or as close as poss) HTC TouchFlo3d
> Preferably the Manila theme
> Internet Sharing
> Also would like it to be as close as possible to the Official rom as in looks feel and functionaility (ie programs etc) but hopefully improved speed/stability
Oh and I will need to get My TomTom working on it so if that requires something that is part of the OS that can't be removed. Also whats this MTTY? Before I have just use hardspl to use roms is this an alternative???
+ I install Skype as well...
Or would you recommend win mo 7 rom? To be honest I would prob rather stick to 6.5.1 and goto 7 with a new device. Maybe the Diamond 2....
Must be stable as possible and english - I have done plenty of flashing roms on my phone as I have had a few problems with some but not touched 6.5 as of yet (or a 7 release)
Want to begin flashing Sunday, But the other reason for stable is I want the least risk of bricking my device as its the only phone I have and can't afford a new one :-( Waiting for my contract to run out next year....
Is anyone kind enough to be able to recommend a rom to me please?

you mean you want a rom with all those programs included
or just a rom which support those programs when installed?
and wm7 is not out yet not even in beta

Good Morning,
I am looking for those programs to be included in the rom.
Also I know Win7 not released but I thought there was some sort of rom here with win7 leaked or something etc.

Well, I think it's not yet the time for WM6.5.1, at least in Diamond.
I've already tried some rom, result is switching back immediately.
In my opinion, there're so many bugs in 6.5.1 that these cooked roms can't fit for a daily use.
I'm realy love 6.5.1, especially its taskbar. Hope Microsoft will soon release official WM6.5.1 which is more stable than those rom we have.

i've been using BSB 6.5.1D lately and it works like a charm

Yeh I saw the BSB one but wasn't sure about it, I quite like the look of this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563245
The one titled 'Windows Revolution Manila Edition'
however it has the RSS Hub and RemoteDesktop removed when I want both of them, actually I prob could live without them both. Has anyone thoughts or advice on this rom? Might give it ago later.

I have downloaded the one I linked to but The WWE Clean B version and I'll install the Manila and Remote Desktop, has anyone got a cab for the RSS Hub?

Why don't you try lite/native rom and install whatever you want ?

I'm running CDMA on Sprint, so I am not sure how the GSM version performs in comparison however, I personally have had great luck with EnergyROM, running NRG's October 25th build on 23081.
That being said, there are several people on the forums complaining about lockups on their devices while using this ROM, in particular, when accessing messaging through manila. I however, have yet to experience these problems.
The battery settings do need a bit tweaked though, I personally used the CAB file located at the bottom of this thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1077887&postcount=6356.
Looking over what you were looking for in a ROM, this does contain all of those, except voice command, which he does have a link for on his ROM page (At least, once again, for the CDMA diamond build)
It might be worth looking into, as the build and presentation of NRG's ROMs do feel very professional. But in the end, it comes down to playing around with various ROMs to see what works, and what dosn't.
Hope I helped!
Edit : His thread over here hasn't been updated since the Sept 20th build (Which had issues), the thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517300
However, the hotfile link for his downloads from that thread, ( http://hotfile.com/list/93325/99ab7ab ) does appear to have the newer Oct 25th build on it. Once again, I recommend trying it out, but it isn't for everyone. When it comes to ROM's, everyone has their own taste and preference, it would seem.

Can any Kaiser veterans suggest some software?

Hi.
I have a HTC TyTN II and would love to nail down what software I should use, and if any of you pros could help me out I would really appreciate it.
My goal is to run the latest [stable/fast] Windows mobile 6.5 release with the highest functioning Android build on top.
From what i've seen my choice is this ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 - ahmedfikry wm6.5 light rom v28217
From the thread it seems there aren't any glaring bugs. This is the latest WM build correct? What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
I notice it's a 'light' build which is fine - can you suggest any 'must have' or 'replacement' apps that would improve usability? EG; TouchFLO, a utility to access more settings, a replacement browser[Skyfire/Opera], a utility that automatically closes open programs, program to save battery life - anything like that - I want to avoid 'bloat' like some 'loaded' ROMs have and not have useless duplicate programs, speed and usability is preferred over eye candy [the exception being any great games that run on kaiser ]
Any suggestion on a GPS software that does not require a data plan? I may be limited since i only have a 2GB SD card.
And as far as ANDROID goes I believe i'm looking at the DONUT builds since I want sleep/camera/wifi (don't care about bluetooth) - [is DONUT the build with the most functions?] - which is the 'fastest' / 'lightest' of the DONUT builds that still has the highest amount of features working?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116 - Hero blend?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613049 - Tattoo?
I apologize in advance if any of my questions were very nooblike, but thank you for your patience!

Moved as not ROM Development.

Thank you for moving my thread to the appropriate subforum, I had posted in the ROM section as I had assumed that most cooks and those familiar with ROM quirks would be browsing that section and be able to answer the questions I had.

This ties in loosely with what I was going to ask, so I'll reply as well. I just inherited a TyTn II from work, needed constant recalibration so I don't know if it has a hardware or a software fault. Software is easier to fix, I just want to throw on a base package with a good app selection. My ideal is to keep it as fast as it can be.
As I understand it, the Kaiser/TyTn II doesn't have enough grunt to run WiMo 6.5 OR Android 2.1 at an acceptable level. Is this correct? From what I have seen, all the cool stuff doesn't yet work on Android, any version. If I wanted to develop for the project, then I'd put Android on, but I want my phone to "just work"... well, as well as a WiMo phone can.
I'm willing to accept WiMo 6.1, maybe with skinning, etc.. heck it's a free phone, just needs a battery, stylus, and maybe a new digitizer and interpreter board(whatever that bit is called). For me and what I do, I'd be after the following stuff:
video/audio player
SSH/PuTTy type shell access
RDP/VNC
GPS mapping, turn by turn stuff
Facebook/Twitter integration/applications
Don't know if any/all of this stuff is included in any of the baked ROM's out there... Have I just missed a nice table of each available ROM, and what it has to offer?

Does Win6.5 / Android really take more horse power?
If so I may consider the latest 'official' 6.1 ROM - but i was hoping that 6.5 actually would be optimized/improved for performance over 6.1.

Here is the deal with WM 6.5 and Android. The Kaiser is an old phone, 2+ years since release, but that translates to 10+ in phone years. There are no " official upgrades " nor will there be. The Kaiser was left behind by the Raphael and even more now by the Rhodium.
All the 6.5 and Android roms on this site are all " cooked " (hacked ) roms , cooked up by various chefs here at XDA. They have taken dumped roms from other phones and have taken out the crap and have added better features . They are faster by virtue of less carrier and HTC crap in them. But they are still " hacked " versions and need to be considered beta versions.
First your phone has to be unlocked and Spl'd. " Jailbroken " if that iis a more familiar term. And then reflashed with the rom of your choice.
Android will not run on the Kaiser, a hacked version must be run off of a partitioned SD card and on top of WM, so naturally it runs a a high resource cost and very tenuously at best.
There are some very nice, fast and stable roms out there to run after you have unlocked your phone, that blow the doors off of any " official " rom. Check the rom dev page for roms with features and looks that interest you. And check peoples signatures for what people are running.
I use stylez black v4 for my everyday rom and jjblasters 6.5 rom when I want to run a " hey look at me and my cool 6.5.3 rom running on a Kaiser " rom

My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?

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aznphatb0i said:
My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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Hey, I can confirm that the 1.6 build is stable and working wine, and yes it boots from the sd card. I have a class 4 card 2gb and it is quite smooth, but they do recommend a class 6 card. So for me there is no performance issue.
As to the wm 6.5 question: I have ahmedfikry's light rom with Opera added, and it is smooth, fast, nice and all that jazz. No worries, the difference between 23xxx and 28xxx i do not know.
Best of luck, much fun to be had.

aznphatb0i said:
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
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Regarding the abouve question - so I think I am going to 'SD' install Android Polymod 'on top' of ahmedfikry wm6.5 [unless you suggest another ROM meeting my needs] (I don't want to NAND Android until all the features I want are working flawlessly)
There is no speed difference in OS operation between SD an NAND install besides initial boot time correct?
How would you choose to switch between the OS when you have WinMo + an SD Android Installation?
And again any recommendations for a nice UCPack that won't sacrifice any speed / add duplicate functionality bloat?

I've been doing nothing but testing different roms and androids for my Kaiser for the past few days.
Ive also tried both SD and NAND install of Android (polymod).
But I must say that it runs much faster on NAND than SD. (Dunno if my SD card is just slow or not. 4 gb.)
Right now I am using HyperDragon 6.5, Im quite impressed by it.
(This is for all android builds I could find: )
But I do indeed enjoy Android more, but I got some big problems with it.
The battery was drained so much quicker + didn't show real battery status.
And I had various luck dialing. Sometimes it just wouldn't work, which was why I changed back to Winmo.
I haven't tested polymod 2.1d on sd, but its 2x faster with polymod 2.1d on nand than polymod 2.1g on SD.
The one who performed best was Warm Donut, but lacked some stuff.
The battery time was about the same with power savings on. Poor.
Lacking the ability to dial with Android made me change, but I enjoy the OS more than WinMo.
My next phone will be with Android, but thats going to take some time.

hello aznphatb0i
thanks for your message
Kaiser can run wm 6.5 great after being "unlocked" to flash cooked roms
my roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
i keep cooking the newest & update the links there
are the newest from COM 5 branch with finger friendly user interface (larger bottom bar with start flag on bottom left)
latest now is 23563
there are other COM branchs out there, but i do not cook them, some cause bugs..others from COM2 are new with small bottom bar (older look) but i do not cook them because i like the interface of COM 5 better
My roms are "light" to be fastest & allow most free space.. all additional applications to be added by cabs according to user prefernce
all the links for the cabs & what they do are in the first post in my thread
as for GPS, i use TOM TOM & iGo 8 ...both run fine & loaded on 2 GB card
I do not have much to say about Android, i like windows OS...when Andriod is perfected later I may consider looking into it
if you like my work & appreciate the time & effort i put into this...please DONATE by clicking the link below in my signature
hope this helps

Why the build number of New ROM stop at 23569?

The build number of ROMs kept as 23569 for 2 months, any reason for that?
I am looking forward to new builds with better memory behavior (Memory leak free)

The 23569 is the build number of windows mobile itself..
23xxx means windows 6.5.x
21xxx means windows 6.5
well, windows 7 has build number 7600 since first release untill now. why? because MS thinks they dont need a fix that requires a total recompile.

I agree with ^. but yea, we might not see many further builds in WinMo because Android is taking over the world. Im looking to get the *Aria* im kinda not wanting to tho. but I look at the builds in inverse, the older the build, the more stable, just in my opinion, I always have problems with WinMo 6.5.x, but 21xxx builds always work fine for me

have you guys even forget?
Windows Phone 7 is Microsoft's main priority at this moment and Fall is just around the corner, after the LG Fathom was released, MS decides to finish up working on WP7

23123 ?
And what's build 23123 about?
Is that one newer or another MS project or something?
I'm running Deepshining:
28-Jun-2010: DeepShining X9.23123 without HTC Messaging Client - New
It's a build with start menu on bottom and newer than 23569?
Thanks

bigchrizzieboy said:
And what's build 23123 about?
Is that one newer or another MS project or something?
I'm running Deepshining:
28-Jun-2010: DeepShining X9.23123 without HTC Messaging Client - New
It's a build with start menu on bottom and newer than 23569?
Thanks
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Build 23123 is Windows Mobile 6.5.x (6.5.5 or 6.5.3) as well as the Deep Shining ROM u have now (Build 23569)
Build 23123 may be older, yet if a chef builds a new ROM based on the 23123 build, it would make that ROM newer, not the base build number.
When the build number starts with 21xxx the start button will be on the top left of the home screen. Where builds that start with 23xxx the start button will be much bigger and at bottom left.
The 21xxx builds r moreso what we have been used to with the stock ROMs and they r more stable being there was little integration of sizes between pages. (If u read on in the threads, youll see the dialer was a big hassle to finally get the size right and NOT have a scroll bar on the right in the first 23xxx builds.)
I personally use the 23xxx builds, such as Im downloading Energy ROM Build 23673. With these newer, less stable, yet more finger friendly ROMs I hardly ever have to pull out the stylus anymore. Now dont be put off by the words "less stable". If u dont use the device as much as me (its glued to my hand installing and trying new software, customizing with new icons or sliders or clocks or themes or 3rd party programs, if its not connected to my computer, lol) then u may not run into the bugs that most of us who climb into our devices do. Such as one ROM I was recently using would shut the messaging client down everytime I opened to send or read my messages (email and text messaging). Yet that was the only bug I found with said ROM.
So as u can see when Chefs find a good, stable build; they like to improve on them. Ill tell you now I have tried the Energy build 23673 a few days ago, yet Ima flash junkie, so Im always trying something new. The 23673 build is quite fast and very reliable.
As long as we have chefs, the builds will never stop!!

Why are there new WM 6.5 builds every now and then

I am wondering why are there new WM 6.5 builds coming up every now and then? The latest being WM21908. And looks like the next build is WM21911. I thought MS has stopped WM6.5 development and has moved on to WP7. Or is it true that MS is still improving WM6.5 at the same time? I like WM 6.5 and would be glad to see it keeps on improving.

Yes, MS is still working on WM6.5 and they said they will not abandon WM. The truth is, that any fixes will be minor and MS won't be adding any big new features to it.

Yes, MS wil be support WM 6.5 and WM 7 for an some amount of time.

Any updates is better than no update. I hope when WP7 comes out from HTC, it is possible to flash WM6.5 ROM onto those phones. The Touch Pro 2 is a fantastic phone. But I would like to see newer hardware spec with WM6.5 ROM in it.