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Dear people, I have been reading the posts about the problems with new installed cooked roms, and its hard to wade through the clutter and confusion.
So here my humble suggestions, in the hope the reports about the roms will be a bit more reliable and readable.
First you must understand, that your new cooked rom makes your phone a totally different machine as the original one.
You should ASSUME, that its NOT compatible with any software you used before. Most software and add-ons are made for the original roms and NOT for your newly installed cooked rom. (Unless stated otherwise by the add-on maker)
New cooked roms ARE DIFFERENT, WORK DIFFERENT.
Although the chefs (people who cook new roms) do their best to provide you with a perfect rom, it most likely will contain bugs and incompatibilties of some sort.
They, and potential users, need to know those bugs (and possible workarounds).
BUT
If you installed 3rd party software (including graphical stuff), or used programs to restore settings and data, you MAY have installed or restored incompatible stuff.
And this may cause an otherwise good working cooked rom to show "bugs", but are in fact incompatibilities.
SO
READ the instructions of the chef carefully.
DON'T install or change anything on your freshly installed cooked rom, and TEST ALL the functionality and programs supplied on the rom, WITHOUT restoring anything, not even your contacts (but add a few manually). Don't take this lightly. This IS THE ONLY WAY to see if your cooked rom works correctly.
If you notice any bugs during this stage, try to find if there are similar bugs reported in the thread about the cooked rom. If not describe as good as you can, what you were doing that led to the bug, and report. You could include your current radio version and original rom version. And tell you didn't install anything. If you find a similar bug in the thread, confirm you have the same (and quote the other report), adding more RELEVANT information if you have.
Then, one by one, do the things you would like to do.
ONE by ONE.
After every action you take that changes the content of your phone, TEST the functionality of the phone. Again, don't take this lightly. Some programs or add-ons may affect the working of the phone in other areas as they would on an other rom.
If you find bugs after "changing the content", and this inlcudes programs contacts etc, see if similar bugs have been reported. If not describe as good as you can, what you were doing that led to the bug, and report. You could include your current radio version and original rom version. And tell you what you installed or changed, also what you already had changed before this current change, so ALL programs you have installed and changes you have made). If you find a similar bug in the thread, confirm you have the same (and quote the other report), adding more RELEVANT information if you have.
IN ALL CASES, report the version of the cooked rom you are using. (The threads start in most cases with version x.xx but are changed during the development to x.yy, so a version number makes it easier for people who are wading through the hundreds of posts)
Maybe chefs could start a new thread for every version the put online? The pages about your previous release under your new one are irrelevant, and where to start reading about the latest? Makes things easier to read and understand!!
Thanks and happy flashing!
Gede said:
First you must understand, that your new cooked rom makes your phone a totally different machine as the original one.
You should ASSUME, that its NOT compatible with any software you used before. Most software and add-ons are made for the original roms and NOT for your newly installed cooked rom. (Unless stated otherwise by the add-on maker)
New cooked roms ARE DIFFERENT, WORK DIFFERENT.
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a cooked ROM does not nessasarily make a big difference and 99% of the time it will not be a TOTAL change like you have stated and will generaly be very similar to a previous rom apart from a few tweaks and updated software, tho it does vary. 3rd party programs should work on any rom if its compatible with the device and o/s unless a ROM is deffective. However installing backups can cause problems so should be avoided if possible.
the only time it will vary to a large degree is when going from O/S versions i.e WindowsMobile 6.1 to WindowsMobile 6.5
Gede said:
Then, one by one, do the things you would like to do.
ONE by ONE.
After every action you take that changes the content of your phone, TEST the functionality of the phone.
If you find bugs after "changing the content", and this inlcudes programs contacts etc, see if similar bugs have been reported. If not describe as good as you can, what you were doing that led to the bug, and report. You could include your current radio version and original rom version. And tell you what you installed or changed, also what you already had changed before this current change, so ALL programs you have installed and changes you have made). If you find a similar bug in the thread, confirm you have the same (and quote the other report), adding more RELEVANT information if you have.
Thanks and happy flashing!
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yes this is a great idea IF your having problems however I would only do this if I was having a problem no one else had yet reported. otherwise if a rom is stable just install away.
im with Gede on this
this is how i work:
install rom, run for a day as is, nothing else added. test as many things as i can including any of my own little tweaks i make after a new rom
then day by day (ie 1 app per day) i add in my 3rd party software, if i come across a problem, i uninstall the last app and see if the problem is still there, invariably it isnt and might just need a fresh install of the latest version to overcome the problem
yes it can take a week or more to go through this process but its the only way to ensure you are able to install all or most of your apps and have a device that functions well
also, i would say that most of the new cooked roms are really quite removed from the tock rom as they are tweaked with all sorts of oem cabs from different rom versions, whether these are just dfferent area roms, different versions of rom or as is the case more and more, oem apps from roms for different devices
i think the main point to remember in all this is that the cooks, cook the roms for themselves, they choose to share with the community... just because it dont work for you or doesnt meet your need... that doesnt mean the rom is buggy nor does it mean the cook owes you any fix or improvement
its really piddling me off to see how many people come to these forums and DEMAND this that and the other from the chefs
i think we are privilidged and should be grateful to have people here that choose to share their work with us for free so that our devices can be better and more useful then they are off the shelf
iphone users dont have the choice
Just to let you know, Dutty just released his 4.3 Final WM6.1 Rom.
You can find it here: http://htcpedia.com/duttys-wm-6_1-v-rom-final/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html
Thanks for the info...... will check it out at HTCpedia.com
Any future queries regarding Throys 4.3 rom should be directed to this thread
Why isn't this ROM available in Dutty's own site (www.duttythroy.net) ???
farzadmf said:
Why isn't this ROM available in Dutty's own site (www.duttythroy.net) ???
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As Throy is releasing his roms exclusively to HTCPedia.com
backgroung for all tabs manila 2.1.38680.1?
Hello! have someone found the the working backgroung for all tabs for manila in this rom (manila 2.1.38680.1)????
dnbcat said:
Hello! have someone found the the working backgroung for all tabs for manila in this rom (manila 2.1.38680.1)????
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Try out the Dusk theme bkgrnd4 all tabs cabs ....make sure u try the 2.1/ 2.0 dusk theme as the other one, 2.5, will screw you blkstone up....
blitzkrieg7710 said:
Try out the Dusk theme bkgrnd4 all tabs cabs ....make sure u try the 2.1/ 2.0 dusk theme as the other one, 2.5, will screw you blkstone up....
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I tried the Dusk theme, But it wasn't working as good as it should be. I just want to change the BG with my own for all tabs. I give Dusk one more try after I flash to 4.3. Thanks for the advice.
demo1987 said:
I tried the Dusk theme, But it wasn't working as good as it should be. I just want to change the BG with my own for all tabs. I give Dusk one more try after I flash to 4.3. Thanks for the advice.
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If your having difficulty with Dusk theme, post your query within Dusk theme thread and grzegorz10 (the creator) will generally respond swiftly to help you
demo1987 said:
I tried the Dusk theme, But it wasn't working as good as it should be. I just want to change the BG with my own for all tabs. I give Dusk one more try after I flash to 4.3. Thanks for the advice.
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Heyy dude... thrs no need to install the entire wisbar theme for trying out bkgrnd4all tabs...just install the Dusk_Coloured_Backgrounds.CAB.zip file from this link and you will be good to go....
V4.3 has the "usual" bug (as Dutty V4.0, V4.1 and V4.2): call history blank, after 3-5 "uses" of call history....
demo1987 said:
Just to let you know, Dutty just released his 4.3 Final WM6.1 Rom.
You can find it here: http://htcpedia.com/duttys-wm-6_1-v-rom-final/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html
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include Radio module?
philips805 said:
include Radio module?
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Dutty 6.1 roms always include radio: 1.14
ucarcamagno said:
V4.3 has the "usual" bug (as Dutty V4.0, V4.1 and V4.2): call history blank, after 3-5 "uses" of call history....
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Old rom already has this bug,but still continue this rom
I am reading that a lot of people using Dutty's / Throy's Roms, still prefere v3.9 over any other version. Is it true that that one is better then all the others? And if so, what are the differences?
demo1987 said:
I am reading that a lot of people using Dutty's / Throy's Roms, still prefere v3.9 over any other version. Is it true that that one is better then all the others? And if so, what are the differences?
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I used 3.9 for ages and it was great. Only upgraded to 4.1 after I tried a different ROM (which I didn't like). I've only noticed subtle differences
-icons on start menu are slightly lower than before, so line of text under 4th row of icons isn't visible until you scroll down a little (pretty sure this wasn't in 3.9)
-font's on manila seems slightly different (marginally larger and clearer)
-order of items in communications/wireless manager is diffferent (seems to change with every version)
Didn't notice the call history bug until it was mentioned previously, but it's present for me too (no idea if it existing in 3.9 or not).
No idea if any of this was fixed in 4.3 (it was released the day after I flashed to 4.1, go figure lol).
Overall I think the differences are subtle at most (probably depends on what you use I guess). I used 3.9 for months without issue.
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I used 3.9 for ages and it was great. Only upgraded to 4.1 after I tried a different ROM (which I didn't like). I've only noticed subtle differences
-icons on start menu are slightly lower than before, so line of text under 4th row of icons isn't visible until you scroll down a little (pretty sure this wasn't in 3.9)
-font's on manila seems slightly different (marginally larger and clearer)
-order of items in communications/wireless manager is diffferent (seems to change with every version)
Didn't notice the call history bug until it was mentioned previously, but it's present for me too (no idea if it existing in 3.9 or not).
No idea if any of this was fixed in 4.3 (it was released the day after I flashed to 4.1, go figure lol).
Overall I think the differences are subtle at most (probably depends on what you use I guess). I used 3.9 for months without issue.
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I agree with @masadav that 3.9 ROM is surely the best...in fact am still using it since dutty first published it... and as far as some of the obs tht @masadav has:
-icons on start menu are slightly lower than before, so line of text under 4th row of icons isn't visible until you scroll down a little (pretty sure this wasn't in 3.9)
==== Nope...that [[roblem is not thr in 3.9. infact, it shows all the 4 rows clrearly and half an icon of the fifth row====
-font's on manila seems slightly different (marginally larger and clearer)
====I think the 3.9 interface is adequqtely clear for better viewing====
-order of items in communications/wireless manager is diffferent (seems to change with every version)
====Maybe...never had installed any other version to confirm this, but hardly makes any diference right???====
Didn't notice the call history bug until it was mentioned previously, but it's present for me too (no idea if it existing in 3.9 or not).
====This is certainly not there in the 3.9 version....====
Hope this helps u out man....
CHEERS !!!!!!!!
3.9 does appear to have been best wm6.1 rom as voted by most users. This is usually due to speed, stability, most things working etc.
However, IMHO I think your mad not to try wm6.5, either R12 or R2 Leo.
WM6.1 is on its way out, 6.5+ is the future
Hi
i put this rom on my phone and i can not find how to voice activate my phone. IE so i can say someones name and call them. i really need this feature as i drive for a living.
if this is no longer on my phone, is there anywhere i can download it from.
i have done a search but did not come up with anything.
ATB
Colin
col48 said:
Hi
i put this rom on my phone and i can not find how to voice activate my phone. IE so i can say someones name and call them. i really need this feature as i drive for a living.
if this is no longer on my phone, is there anywhere i can download it from.
i have done a search but did not come up with anything.
ATB
Colin
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Did you flash the MSVC-version?
I said I was working on something new. Well, here it is!
First of all, you MUST be running Ivan's 0.7 or 0.5.4. This may work on other roms, but I have NOT tested it.
In short, this removes rosie. To be safe, make a nandroid before you install it. All Widgets/Sense Homescreen/all extra sense related apps are removed. A Full list is at the link below. It returns the phone to close to stock android. I'll be updating soon with a few more features.
More info at here.
Thanks!
EDIT :
figured out what it does.
thanks!
trying it now. Can't wait for it. Thanks for all your hard work!!
noob question! r u ready? whats senseless? is sence the main os thing kinds? on my task manager htc sence is like the main os, do u replace it with like aHome ir somthing like that?
sense is the overlay that HTC made for the phone. with the nice shiny user interface. senseless removes all of that and uses the stock android look, which many people find nicer. senseless also deletes any HTC sense releated apps that wont be used so the phone runs smoother.
thanks i really appreciate that help. im new to the android scene. its a little small due to all the different phones runnind different tweaks but i love the community so far. not like the psp or iphone one but i deffenitly like it, everyones friendly
Really looking forward to trying this out when I get home. First I have to install Ivan's, but this is exactly what I have been looking for.
You said it basically removes rosie, is that all? I could do that with root explorer, couldn't I?
thank you for this. applied this to my fav ROM instead of searching through root explorer for each sense apk. this made my fav rom a lil faster. thanks again for ur hard work
Works on Ivan's 0.81T2.
Now if can hack the incoming call screen it will be perfect.....
There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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What you do is flash one and see if you like it. If not, it is quite simple to flash another.
Try the Titanium 2 Jun NRG ROM and see what you think. It has no Sense version at all, which increases the storage memory size.
http://www.fileserve.com/list/X9nQc65
EDIT: I am assuming that you have read the "Flashing for NOOB" and the "Hard SPL" threads, you need both to be able to flash a custom ROM.
I have pretty much tried all of the ROMs but I reallly like only 2 ROMs. The best one for me is Cell Evo V7 (23541) (the link to thread. I have just flashed Josh's ROM. n i havent had any problem yet. I use the Sense 2.1. (its in my sig) I think 2.5 is still very buggy. so that maybe somethin u may wanna try out. I think the evo one is the most stable! but this is all just my own opinion. u may or may not like them!
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
kfreels said:
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
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Manilla = Sense. "Sense" is the name that HTC uses for their UI. There are two major versions, 2.1 and 2.5 (newest). There is also an older UI called TF3D (TouchFlo 3D).
Matching radios refers to flashing your radio with different firmware. The device has ROM versions, which is what everyone is referring to, and the Radio has a different version. Some people prefer a certain radio, some ROMs recommend a certain radio. I'm using NRG, and have never updated my radio version.
Keyboards. Most ROMS will not automatically map your keyboard (AT&T and T-Mobile have different mappings - the exception is a ROM built for a specific carrier). The reason is simple - the Chef doesn't know what carrier you are using! On the NRG ROMs, there is a tool included to "provision" your device for your carrier; this fixes the keyboard. Or you can do a search and find the right keyboard .cab file for your device.
- Light, medium, and full. I personally don't use these terms, but my definition would be as follows. Light is a ROM that has very little added functionality other than what Microsoft provided with the operating system. Full is a ROM (like NRG) that has lots of custom stuff baked into the ROM - extra utilities and etc., which are useful to you (in the Chef's opinion). A medium would be somewhere in between.
I would include the stock ROM as a "Full" ROM, except that in their case a lot of their software is "bloatware", which means stuff they added because they could, or they had some kind of deal with a particular company, etc. It is called "bloatware" because it seems to serve only the purpose of making the ROM harder to use and cluttering up the menu system with lots of useless stuff - bloated.
Are you a happier camper?
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
jdm_labrat said:
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
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Umm, speaking personally, I'm not sure I want a "sexy" TP2!
Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks for the info. Maybe one day when I'm no longer a dummy I'll write a dummies guide. Until then, thanks for the tips.
Hi,
I had the same problem as you, I just wanted a stock rom without all the extra stuff that htc provides, I wanted to be simple, fast and stable, after flashing a lot of ROM I decided to take the problem in my own hands so I started learning how to cook my own ROM, you have a very good guide about how to do that here.
After reading and understanding this guide you can create your own ROMs just the way you like it.
Maybe just like me you will not succeed for the first time, but in the end you will have a ROM cooked by you and will suite all your needs.
Good luck!
So, I'm starting to look at some of the ROMs people have done, but not really finding what I'm looking for....
I want something that has:
* HTC Sense 2016 or so
* No modified taskbar icons etc
* No modified menus etc etc
* No modified splash screens / welcomehead etc...
* Whatever Windows Mobile build.
* Stock look & feel
I guess my idea of a good ROM is a stock HTC ROM with an updated Sense etc. I'm only looking as I'm having a few issues with Sense hanging after various actions.I can access the start menu etc, but no SMS/email/settings etc without rebooting. This is on the stock SEA ROM.
CRCinAU said:
So, I'm starting to look at some of the ROMs people have done, but not really finding what I'm looking for....
I want something that has:
* HTC Sense 2016 or so
* No modified taskbar icons etc
* No modified menus etc etc
* No modified splash screens / welcomehead etc...
* Whatever Windows Mobile build.
* Stock look & feel
I guess my idea of a good ROM is a stock HTC ROM with an updated Sense etc. I'm only looking as I'm having a few issues with Sense hanging after various actions.I can access the start menu etc, but no SMS/email/settings etc without rebooting. This is on the stock SEA ROM.
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try energy sense cookie. he's got many flavors so check out his thread. otherwise, just try a hard reset and check for updates for ur origional rom.
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try energy sense cookie. he's got many flavors so check out his thread. otherwise, just try a hard reset and check for updates for ur origional rom.
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I did look at these ROMs, but they seem to miss multiple points that I made above. From customised menus to icky icons :\
Also, I'm not a fan of the start menu being moved to the bottom and the 'button' style hotkey things at the bottom...
Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
CRCinAU said:
I did look at these ROMs, but they seem to miss multiple points that I made above. From customised menus to icky icons :\
Also, I'm not a fan of the start menu being moved to the bottom and the 'button' style hotkey things at the bottom...
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well you seem to miss the point of these custom roms. they arent made to really be the exact same as the stoc rom but more optimized... theyre usually changed graphically in ways such as icons and task bars. i suggest just reloading your stock rom. these custom roms are usually faster and more stable. but you have to get used to them. they are custom for a reason and its usually made for specific to the creators wants. so it will most likely be reskinned and much different looking.
Try deepshining...it is my favourite and by far the best there is for our Rhodium.
If you want a review, read this article first.
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well you seem to miss the point of these custom roms. they arent made to really be the exact same as the stoc rom but more optimized... theyre usually changed graphically in ways such as icons and task bars. i suggest just reloading your stock rom. these custom roms are usually faster and more stable. but you have to get used to them. they are custom for a reason and its usually made for specific to the creators wants. so it will most likely be reskinned and much different looking.
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Having been around here for over 3 years, I know exactly the point of custom ROMs - however there is always a place for a ROM that is almost the same as a stock - but with updates. Mainly this takes the role of bug fixes etc. It's usually also good if some of the stock software is stripped out to give the user the choice.
My ROMs for Hermes were exactly that - stock looking with critical functionality the same - but with bug fixes etc...
Hi CRCinAU , I have been looking for a ROM that has exactly the points that you have mentioned above. Sadly, i haven't found anyone.
Simplicity ROM, in my opinion is the most similar to what you mention.
Hopefully, someone will make a ROM like what you ask.
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Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
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I installed ShowLITE and quite like it. I am curious though, do you have this with the HTC Messenging for SMS/MMS instead of ArcSoft? I like the HTC client much better...
Oh, and also to put the start menu back to 3 columns instead of 4.. 4 is a little too small for my fingers!
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Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
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+1. I current run Jacko's rom with cht beta 2.0 cooked in and it is off the hook. I can modify it whichever way i want and still have about 90 mb of memory constantly available. I can't wait for his new rom when it comes out. It is the best rom i've had since I started flashing. Beside it being stable and bug free, it is fast and responsive.
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Hi CRCinAU , I have been looking for a ROM that has exactly the points that you have mentioned above. Sadly, i haven't found anyone.
Simplicity ROM, in my opinion is the most similar to what you mention.
Hopefully, someone will make a ROM like what you ask.
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I would have to agree. I've been messing with ROMS since I had an HTC 8525. The NRG ROMs are made for people who like the flash and bling so to speak. They have many add ons and gadgets that people have loved. The Simplicity is a basic ROM. Not many add ons, great memory after flash and great battery life. My question to you though is; why not take the stock ROM, use a program that will allow yo to take out programs inside the ROM (SK Tools is a great one.) And download a good copy of say CHT-Cookie Home Tab (When you download this, you will NEED the CHTE-Cookie Home Tab Editor if you choose this one.) Look around, find a good copy of Sense and install it into a stock ROM. Bam, problem fixed!