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Here she is folks..... Keep in mind this is *BETA*.. there are still some things that i have to clean up... So go ahead and give it a whirl... This has only been tested on the 8125 G3 unlocked phones, i dont know if it will work on anything else outside of that!!!! So install at your own risk... Dr Puttingham seems to love it, and i think its pretty good. Dr Puttingham is also working on the stripped down version..
Major thanks goes to Molski for providing the core rom and his tweaks, and Dr Puttingham for his input and advice! And everyone else who made cabs for various things found on this board!
So install and give me your comments and suggestions.. and i will better prepare the final version :wink:
oh yeah, you need the link
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Other_Unknown/Shogun_A_La_Carte_Cingular_WWE_2.exe
And for the N00bs.. d/l the exe, choose to unpack it to its own folder, then run ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID
**UPDATE**
Myself and faria have been working very hard on a future release.. it is currently in a private beta testing phase.. Anyone that is interesting in checking its current status feel free to check our blog
http://betarom.hypersites.com
Just so's everyone knows ... the install appears to "stall" or "hang" at 94, 98 and 100% so don't be alarmed! DO NOT DISCONNECT YOUR DEVICE NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES! Sorry to shout but I'm expecting somebody to think that their computer's locked up and "brick" their phone! (And one really shouldn't be running any apps like Outlook or such while upgrading...)
Look around in the Programs group for folders called WIFI, Tools and 800Message.
Wow, that's great to get a new rom - Awesome! But sorry, not to sound ignorant... can you please explain what the G3 unlock is. I'm running a 64k SIM in my phone, not 3G.
Is the 8125 capable of running at 3G speeds, or are earlier models limited? Is this a hardware or software limitation... I would like to get my card swapped out with Cingular if possible. Thanks for your help.
--JAS
when i mention G3 and G4 its the difference in chips in the wizard, if you boot your phone and get .001 at the end of the ipl and spl numbers then you have a G4 and i dont recommend using my new rom, although i might be able to make an identical rom for the G4 (i just dont have a phone with G4 to test it) And the wizard does not do UMTS only Edge, so no its not capable of 3G speeds... wait till cingular offers the 8525 and you can get 3g
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he is talking about the 3rd Generation 8125 not the 3rd Generation wireless protocol.. Anyone try this ROM yet.. I'm still on Summiter's 2.17 and am not in a situation where I can experiment with my device no matter how much I want to..
Shogunmark, what advantages does this ROM offer up over my 2.17?
Dr Puttingham said:
Just so's everyone knows ... the install appears to "stall" or "hang" at 94, 98 and 100% so don't be alarmed! DO NOT DISCONNECT YOUR DEVICE NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES! Sorry to shout but I'm expecting somebody to think that their computer's locked up and "brick" their phone! (And one really shouldn't be running any apps like Outlook or such while upgrading...)
Look around in the Programs group for folders called WIFI, Tools and 800Message.
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Thanks for mentioning the hang... i knew i forgot to mention something.. it was 2am when i finally posted it all
Few Suggestions and Comments
1. I was able to install this rom on a non G3 or G4 chipset and it works beutifully.
2. I would not include Pocket Controller since many people, including myself, don't have that software and thus its useless to me at least.
3. I don't know what program you installed to fully close applications but its a little annoying and puts a red dot in the X. I would recommend instead Smartsky.
4. Nice job including Omap and Omap plus. Very very nice.
5. Amazing job and keep up the good work.
Running it now. All I can say is IMPRESSIVE. This is the best custom rom for the 8125 yet. Thanks!
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Yagi said:
1. I was able to install this rom on a non G3 or G4 chipset and it works beutifully.
2. I would not include Pocket Controller since many people, including myself, don't have that software and thus its useless to me at least.
3. I don't know what program you installed to fully close applications but its a little annoying and puts a red dot in the X. I would recommend instead Smartsky.
4. Nice job including Omap and Omap plus. Very very nice.
5. Amazing job and keep up the good work.
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oh yeah, pocket controller will be left out of the final.. i forgot that it was in the beta.. i just got tired of having to re-install it when i was trying out different cabs and such..
i havent used wclose before, which is the program that fully closes the program.. it is kinda growing on me though
anyway, thanks for your input, i will keep a list of all suggestions for the final. The input is greatly appreciated!
How is this new ROM with dropping calls? I'm using summiter's most recent ROM. The reception is great, but I drop calls like Jenna Jamesson drops panties.
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How is this new ROM with dropping calls? I'm using summiter's most recent ROM. The reception is great, but I drop calls like Jenna Jamesson drops panties.
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i havent fully tested that aspect.. I mean who makes calls with a phone anyway :shock: ... but this is built of the molski 2.26 rom with the good 2.25.11 radio which i ran prior to this and cant think of where i ever dropped a call with it
Cool. My dropped calls might be the fault of weather panel and flexmail2007. but i've gotten extremely irritated with my dropped calls. I'll give your ROM a shot once you release the final.
Oh and I second the "no need for the app closer software" movement as i'm a wisbar guy anyway.
cant wait for the final of this.... keep up the good work
A little of topic but anyone know when the 8525 will be available in the states.. Is there any link with info on this device.
On your pervious thread you mentioned that you would look into a stripped down version of this. I would like to try it but really dont want all the add ons. Are they removable via the remove programs thing in the settings? Also could you put together a complete list of all the features of this rom...or somewhere that list all the features?
Thanks for all the work!
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Cool. My dropped calls might be the fault of weather panel and flexmail2007. but i've gotten extremely irritated with my dropped calls. I'll give your ROM a shot once you release the final.
Oh and I second the "no need for the app closer software" movement as i'm a wisbar guy anyway.
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im an Xbar kinda guy, not free, but used it alot when i use to run smartphones, its a cool little program. But i did like how appcloser will actually close the program from just clicking the x instead of just minimizing.. but at any rate, this rom is for everyone and will be built accordingly to whats popular by use, so if the general population dont want it then i will exclude, or maybe make a cab so it will be easy to install/uninstall.. who knows, just keep up the suggestions!
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cant wait for the final of this.... keep up the good work
A little of topic but anyone know when the 8525 will be available in the states.. Is there any link with info on this device.
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there is a thread somewhere for this.. according to it the 8525 was suppose to be released this week, but got pushed back due to a bug..
thankins said:
On your pervious thread you mentioned that you would look into a stripped down version of this. I would like to try it but really dont want all the add ons. Are they removable via the remove programs thing in the settings? Also could you put together a complete list of all the features of this rom...or somewhere that list all the features?
Thanks for all the work!
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Dr. puttingham has decided to work on the stripped down version so i can focus on this one.. right now only some of the features are removable from remove programs.. in an effort limit the massive amount of cabs it took to install this i had combined some..
i will compile a full list later today, right now i gotta hit the shower and get to work..
here is the list of what i included:
zoA2DP.cab
ammar_Wireless_Today_Plugin.cab
PPCContactsMgr.cab
BT_COM_PORT (did not install)
TRE.arm.cab
total-comander.cab
WiFiFoFum2.cab
Omapclock_and_Omapclockplusv0.0.4.cab
Wireless.Scanner-Hitchhiker0.4b1.cab
SearchToday.ARM.cab
vxutil.cab
TodayAgenda_PPC.ARMV4.cab
Molski.Biz_Performance_Registry_Tweaks.cab
rar.ppc_arm.cab
Molski.Biz_Customizing_Tweaks.cab
VNC_pocket_viewer.cab (did not install)
Molski.Biz_Stevens_Customization.cab
SP_ARM_504P.cab ~ soti pocket controller
VoiceDial_Button_Customizer.cab
NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab
SPWM5CallRec.cab
PPC2003PMVault.cab
fp7_ppc_en (flash) (did not install)
there is a couple that either did not install or didnt install correctly.. will be a quick fix.. and there will be a MAJOR change coming to this...
Mark, what tools are you using to make your ROM's? I've been trying to use mamaich's (think I got the name right), and although I can extract everything fine, I can't seem to turn it back into the binary file..
Looking to see if you might have any ideas.. I've searched the forums more times than I can count..
Thanks!
Well... nothing personal but I'm staying on with shogunmark's Cingular experiment. Lot's to do here but it's geared more for me. (gee I wonder why!)
OK, let it all hang out!
wclose should be left out of startup (my add in, kinda like it - install by user
smartskey - fantastic - install by user
omap - again fantastic -install by user, perhaps with smartskey
CF2 in ROM - get to it Mark!
I'm with the leaner, meaner ROM myself. This one faster, even with omap left out. molski's tweaks and my additions I think help.
And I like the idea of a Cingular ROM as ... that's my ROM...
Lot's of hard work being done here... respect to all!
Cheers!
OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
Because of the lack of bigstorage, we have a lot of unclaimed space.
Storage memory: 36.28MB (This means you can add your own programs without loosing this space.)
Program memory: 27.00MB when first turned on. 26.xx when it starts using parts of it for caching purposes. (28.xx with some tweaks that I will probably not setup in the final ROM because they will make certain things not work the way everyone else is used to.)
Updates:
Bugs found:
1. Notepad doesn't not launch or open in any way shape or form.
Bugs fixed:
1. The volume slider is acting as an up and down arrow instead of a volume slider. If anyone has any input on what controls this, I'd gladly appreciate the help. Also, tapping on the volume control does nothing.
And a little teaser... There's a little over 300+ packages on my next release of EasyBakeOven... which is why it's taking so long. I'm trying to weed out the useless ones, though.
Mental note: Check out the LGplugin to make it a package.
Disclaimer: Should you choose to flash the released ROM or any of its versions, released or otherwise, you are solely responsible for your equipment. I take no responsibility for any damage caused by this ROM nor by any negligence on your behalf while flashing said ROM. I will provide support to the best of my abilities only and ONLY if you have fully read the FAQ I will later provide, read this WHOLE thread AND the instructions, following them to a t. If I do not answer right away, please do not repeatedly ask me with countless PM's. This will not get me to leave my paying job faster and get me online to even SEE that you have a question. If I cannot answer the question, I will tell you. If it's posted here and I haven't responded for over a week, then post another message reminding me. I probably missed it. It is NOT ok to PM me asking me the same question that someone else has already gotten a response for. Read the whole thread. Other than that, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE ROM!!!
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OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
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this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
trallala said:
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
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Thanks for the idea! I'll probably create a blank extROM and unlock the ROM from my ROM.
FZZF said:
this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
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^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
ivanmmj said:
^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
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I was referring to the touchflo which I don't even use other then the scrolling feature, but there are some HTC apps that can be very useful and good looking I came a cross a post on here that has all of them http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533&highlight=random+acces
and this link has more apps (for Kaiser) most will work on the wing http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
thanks your hard work for us,i am from china,and i did the english ROM+chinese language ,i canot wait your ROM out ,and test it.
if it possible ,i hope you may share your kitchen with me ,and i can use it for my english rom and chinese language support.and more chinese people would like it .
let more people use clean ROM
let us work on big storge,and more faster ROM.
and my MSN:[email protected]
for my poor english.
OK. The ROM is flying and it's basically ready for a release as I haven't found any more bugs, so I might do an Alpha release this weekend.
Coool, I can't wait to try it!!!
clean rom
hey to all of you out their looking for a clean rom for the wing. back in my day when I owened a wing I cam across a offical htc hearld wm6 rom the worked with the wings keyboard, if any ones interested I can post it up. you guys can prolly use it as a base to build off of aswell
Santino.. that's like the holy grail of T-mo Wing rom's... please post it.
Regards
sure thing...I had orginally thought that the comunnity was aware of it. ill post it up in the upgrade fourms soon as I get home around 7pm eastern
Oh this would be sooo damn nice, a clean rom! And i sooo hope you get Bigstorage working!
First off, I think it would be prudent to have a copy of the original Cingular 8125 ROM lying around, just in case anything goes wrong.
Since it's been removed from the HTC site (and is unavailable...I asked HTC tech support), I would like to ask if anyone on this site has the original WM5 Cingular ROM for the 8125?
Second, I have been researching ROMs, and like what I see. It never ceases to amaze me, the effort that is put in by the volunteers here in the XDA community. My sincerest thanks to you all, for keeping these wonderful devices alive and kicking!
In fact, I saw one that I really like the looks of. It has a "drop dead gorgeous" today screen that is inspired by WM7...and then there's the unadorned one that includes the Office suite.
Is there a ROM that combines both? I would cook it myself, but have *no* idea how to do that, yet. I do know that I'd probably run out of space, if I even tried.
My requirements for this phone are simple. I don't do MMS or any of that multimedia crap...I will use it for business and contacts management, and to diagnose/access wi-fi networks. The ability to use the Office suite would also be nice...otherwise a viewer suite. Is there any ROM that would work better for me, than any other?
Thanks!
Chuck
First,you can download the official cingular wm5 rom from this link:-
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Secondly,all the cooks build roms to the best of their efforts and include applications/programs they like and are commonly required and used,so if you want a clean rom,then simply flash a vanilla rom and install programs/applications of your own wish and requirement or you can always remove any program which you don't use or desire to have,after you flash an upgraded custom build rom
Well, thank you! I found the official ROM last night, with a bit of searching (always search before asking a question...) but wasn't sure about which ROM to start with.
I did the unlocking, flashed to the TMobile ROM, then chose one of the TouchFlo ROM images. VERY nice. Only significant bug (so far) is that the camera button doesn't work...have to go in through the album and activate it from there.
WM6.1 looks NICE! I'm genuinely impressed with the progress we've made in just a few years, and on the identical hardware! I just wish Microsoft was half as talented as the volunteers here, on this site. It's amazing what y'all have managed to do.
Thank you for such a quick reply.
Chuck
Thanz!
You are most welcome,glade you liked the efforts of cooks here
Grrrrrrrr8! kick ass cookers.....
Hi Chuck,
when you did the unlocking did you downgrade to the button rom first to unlock it? I am having so much trouble trying to get activesync to connect after i downgrade.
Activesync 4.5 on XP Pro. 8125, G3 device.
I downgraded to the Button ROM, then unlocked it. I then reupgraded it to my original Cingular WM5 ROM. (hadn't downloaded the TMo ROM yet). Then, I upgraded to the first of my WM6.1 ROM choices. It worked perfectly.
The instructions are all online...found them all on a single page last night, but I can't find it right now. Didn't bookmark it.
Chuck
Check out this guide:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
THAT'S IT!
That's the guide I used to do the downgrade/upgrade. They work perfectly, if you follow them. The only thing I didn't do was use the TMo ROM when I reupgraded to WM5, because I didn't yet have it...I used the Cingular WM5 ROM.
Worked perfectly.
What problem are you having with yours? Perhaps, if you were a little more specific, someone here could help you figure it out...details are always welcome.
Chuck
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
chimpsinties said:
Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!
Hey, I would like to know if I could use a sprint Diamond or Touch Pro on another carrier. The carrier I would like to use it with is cellular south.
Hey, I found your question!! Ok, well since your Diamond is security unlocked, I believe the answer is yes, look into a rom on PPCgeeks.com called Energy Rom, I am using his latest release, there are two posts for Energy Rom so make sure you get the newest one, anyways, included in this rom is what he calls Carrier Provisioning, it has Sprint as well as Cellular South in there.
Let me know how it works out for you!
EDIT: Hey, I figured I should link you to the page so you dont have to hunt!
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74084
click the blue button that says "Download" NOT the one that says "Download all Roms Here"
So once I unlock and install the rom, how exactly do I activate it over cellular souths network if it came from sprint? and thank for reply lol I never got replys on my questions except for battery issues.
Also do you have info for me about the touch pro, becaue im fixing them and want to flash them to cellular south because thats the most popular carrier where i am.
Ok, from what I understand about switching carriers is this, once you use the carrier provisioning, you need to use the attached program called Phone Codes.cab, what this does is allows you to do a manual setup of the phone, on a stock rom(shipped rom) you would do this by going to the dial pad and typing in ##somenumber#, but that doesn't work on most custom roms so someone(cant remember who to give credit to, SORRY DEV) made this app to access the hidden setup menus. Call cell south and tell them you are doing a manual activation of your new phone and that you need the pin number used to log in to the setup, then have them tell you what to change and what to change it to! I know it sounds like a lot, but its really not, also if you dont think you can do this alone, just install the phone codes.cab and go to a cell south location and ask a tech guy to do the setup, but make sure to tell them they have to use the program because they cant access it through the dial pad!
Wow, that was a mouthful
As far as the touch pro, as long as its a cdma phone, you might be able to program it to cell south, I have never used that phone unfortunately so I don't want to give you terrible advice. I will always try to help since XDA has always been good to me!
Thank you so much for the info!!! You really helped, could you recomend me a rom for my touch diamond? I like eye candy and performance, I always have problems with custom roms "fm radio not working, gps not working, data not working... etc...
I have tried almost every rom I could find, I have to say there are three that stood out, 1st is Moonscapex's "1.6"(fast, light on mem, and a beautiful black theme), 2nd is "Very Lt. Sense" from Dev O.a.T.(I liked this one because it includes Max Sense, I think its the only rom for the Diamond that does, but it uses up a bit more mem), the 3rd is "Energy Rom" from Dev NRGZ28( my personal favorite, it is good on mem, has in my opinion a beautiful theme, and is highly customizable). So those are just my favorites, I still use my Sprint Hero as a daily phone, so I have had an opportunity to flash a lot of roms and add-ons to my Diamond and I can honestly say there are bugs in quite a few roms but the three I suggested are the most stable I have used.
Now for the fun stuff, I am an early adopter of the android platform, so I am of course going to suggest XDAndroid, this is not flashable, I mean it will not replace WM, think of it as Parallels(a virtual machine), it is fairly simple to add to your phone, it is not the most functional at this point but the Devs involved are working very hard, and it is working well enough at this point that you can run it and see if you like Android(I know you will), and I think its great that we have a choice of 1.6/2.1/or 2.2!!
Also, XDA is great, really my favorite community, so it embarasses me to say this, but for roms for our CDMA Diamonds PPCGeeks.com is the place to go.
Ok, well let me know if there is anything else
links:
Moonscapex's "1.6" - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=114974
O.a.T.'s "Very Lt. Sense" - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=127266
NRGZ28's "Energy Rom" - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74084
XDAndroid - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701566