htc st6356? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

This is the 2nd time I've had to do a warranty exchange for my beloved Tilt. I spent almost an hour talking to a lovely lady @ AT&T's warranty line. She said her supervisor could do a "one time courtesy exchange" for something other than the Tilt. I was offered the Pure, Fuze or some junkBerry. I told her that the whole reason that I chose the Tilt was because it does just that...TILTS. I said I have had problems with refurbs and my 1 year warranty is about out and I wanted a comparable replacement. She went to her supervisor again and was told she could replace my Tilt with the htc st6356 . She says that it IS the TILT 2, however, when I type in htc st6356 online, it shows up as the Pure. Is this right? I searched it online as she said it and I told her it shows up as the Pure. She told me that her supervisor confirmed it was the Tilt 2. Any thoughts? I will absolutely return this if it isn't the Tilt 2, but it's just wasting my time.
King

I forgot to mention that when I questioned her about how my searched showed it as the "Pure", she acknowledged. She stated that 3 different models show up under that number, however, her supervisor confirmed the TILT 2 was the HTC6356. I told her a couple times that I would trust her.
I had to do a lot of negotiating with her and she definitely did a great job working with me and her supervisor. I don't think my request was out of line (guess I'm just trying to justify my desire for the latest and greatest replacement). I know some parts of the phone conversation, if not all, are recorded.
If I get anything other than the TILT 2, would I have a legit case in 'demanding' what I was promised?
Yea, you can probably tell I'm feeling uneasy...
King

Oh so you're going to sue because you don't get the tilt 2 ? Man how much money would you be wasting on that endevour.
Did you ask the lady to go to their website and see that they have a pure and a tilt2?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=HTC+Tilt2&q_sku=sku4030272
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...details/?device=HTC+PURE(TM)&q_sku=sku4000289

SUE? Who ever said anything about that? I wouldn't waste any money on a legal complaint. It seems that AT&T can bend the rules when they want or maybe they just don't tell you what your true options are. I was simply saying that I hope I don't have to jump through more hoops to get the replacement that I was promised. Aren't these phone conversations recorded?

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SUE? Who ever said anything about that? I wouldn't waste any money on a legal complaint. It seems that AT&T can bend the rules when they want or maybe they just don't tell you what your true options are. I was simply saying that I hope I don't have to jump through more hoops to get the replacement that I was promised. Aren't these phone conversations recorded?
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Yes they are recorded, but for educational purposes only... They use the recordings as teaching supplies to the customer service employees. It will not be used in any legal matter, as you usually aren't informed of them recording the conversation...

I assumed they were recording when they were reading the terms of the replacement.
They came through for me and I must say I am very impressed. I spoke with them at around 8pm last night and my new phone was here this afternoon. Unfortunately, it was what I expected, the Pure. I called customer service and they were very understanding and checked for the availability of the Tilt 2. It's on it's way and I get to mess with the Pure in the mean time.
I miss my keyboard already.
Great experience with ATT and not just because I got a Tilt 2 out of it.

sue? why else would you say this?
If I get anything other than the TILT 2, would I have a legit case in 'demanding' what I was promised?
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As a " courtesy " they are giving you a brand new phone for a two year ( model year ) old phone and it is your second exchange and they are not giving you a hard time.
Pure ? Tilt2 ? If it was me , I would just take what I could get. My Tilt just totally bricked and could not be recovered last year, and as a " courtesy " they gave ME a refurb Tilt.

whats up Denco?

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AT&T Wont let me Return my Tilt!!!

I purchased the phone about a month ago, from the day I purchased it the camera did not operate correctly. I took my device to the store in an attempt to get it replaced with a new one. Unfortunately for me my camera just happened to work that day which was also the last day of the 30 day warranty. The guy pretty much said that he couldnt help me because my device worked, but then he gave me this number saying that if there is any further problems they will take care of it. So I call the ATT warranty department the next day (my camera broke again) and they said that they were sending me a REFURBISHED phone. I talked with them for 2 hours and they pretty much sait there is nothing they can do.
So I get this refurbished phone and right out of the box it looks of poor quality, I later find out that no matter what I do, the device will not charge. So I send in for another refurb which is of even worse condition and this one wont sync to my PC.
Do any of you guys have any ideas that could help I called the warranty department and coustomer care TWICE, asked to speak to both supervisors, threatened to change my entire family's service and they dont reply with anything except that the phone can not be replaced with a new phone. What do you think I should do?
dude that sucks!
ive never had a problem gettin a swap out.. and i bricked my first tilt..
u need to speak to managers and managers only, throw a fit make a scene in the store they'll work with u!
Learn from your mistake so you don't repeat it in the future. If you have an issue with a phone within the 30 day period, make sure it's fully taken care of within that time frame. Unfortunately you took some clerk's word for what would happen instead of double checking yourself.
AT&T most likely isn't going to do anything more from you. They have pretty good customer service and retention, but it is within their rights to give you a refurbished phone.
I also find it hard to believe that they shipped you two refurbished phones that right out of the box appeared to be of "poor quality." If the phone's had a shoddy appearance they wouldn't have been sent back out.
If your next replacement (refurb) is not functional, then tell them that it is getting ridiculous that you have had 3 replacments and they were all bad (again, I find that dubious). If the phone's are malfunctioning to any extent that you can't make calls (like a phone won't recharge) then they should be crediting your account on a daily basis when you can't use the phone.
Lastly, you can threaten to go to your credit card issuer (assuming you bought it with one) or to the BBB. Again, these are mostly threats, and I don't suggest you follow through unless you are truly getting bad refurbs 3 times in a row. Don't just take a negative attitude and look for problems becuase it isn't a new phone...you aren't likely to get one.
However, you could realistically cancel your service, and then refuse to pay any cancellation fees because they weren't honoring their end of the deal by providing you with functioning equipment. Even though you might have a leg to stand on....it will still probably get sent to collections and mar your credit.
Of the refurbs I got, these were in the condition I stated. When I called ATT they said something along the lines of 'every once in awhile a bad one slips through, but its pretty rare.'
I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
What I am saying is third time is a charm...you can't keep getting bad ones
Also, I know how it can be mentally (as I would feel the same way) that a refurb just isn't as good and you would rather have a new one even if you saw a refurb pass every single test.
Try for #3 and if you are still out of luck...go with the other poster's suggestion and make a scene in the store
This reminds me of when i had the 8525 hermes. I was sent about 3 phones from them that were of bad quality. Bluetooth problems and yellowish tint screen.. The unwritten rule is that after 3 phones youre sopost to get a upgrade of the latest comperable model. Right now the tilt is the latest pocket pc but at the time, the tilt replaced the 8525 and thats how i recieved my tilt..
Moral is.... wait til the next ppc comes out and make a scene.. but also bring that point up to warranty replacement.
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I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
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Happened to me last week, two bad ones, and a third one that was good. It's possible, and somewhat probable for a scenario like that to occur. It's not like saying he put a million dollars on "00" at the roulette table and won
I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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well now we know why AT&T sometimes has such a sweet deal on refurb tilts LOL
Ok you said the second phone couldnt sync to pc. If you search through this forum I guarantee there is a fix for that.
Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow Sorry I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the insinuation that they would actually care. The sad fact is T-Mobile Is worse in service availability. And Sprint? I wouldn't wish that on my enemy.
Here is a link: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=4607
No BS this will work !!
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
I understand what you mean, but I am completely unprepared to take them to court over such a minor issue. Im going to expend all of my other options first, I still have to go back to the store and argue there that it is there fault because they did not support there 30-day return policy in the first place. The man let me walk out of the store with a broken phone. I should have handeled it then but I didnt realize I would be dialing in and getting more refurbs.
Also, my third refurb arrived today, the device functions completely as intended. The problem now is that the keyboard on this new device does not seem very responsive, or at least, not nearly as responsive as the keyboard on my first device (which I still have). I am upset with this as my other Tilt is in premium condition, not a single scratch. I think I am going to return this one as well.
not good
hey I work for the company and
1. they kinda HAVE to exchange your phone in store if you got it over the phone, over att.com or at a corporate store. if you are within 30 days the rep should do the exchange, the rep u got was an A*&*LE. some act like the store stock and shipping cost come from their pocket.
2. if you get an idiot customer svc rep just hangup and call back , sometime u have to bend the truth. say u have a phone that drops calls ( they are afraid of this) and u tried ur friend's SIM card and still does not work correctly.
3. sorry you did not come to my store.(NY)
4. almost impossible to get a new phone through warranty or insurance.
5. if ya'll have any Q's bout stuff PM me.
out...
This is exactly why sometimes the "best deal" is not a good deal...
I only buy my phones from the bigger retailers, Best Buy & the company directly....
Mom & Pop shops, and online retailers:
- Cheaper up front, can usually get you the best deal if you read the fine print and agree
- Usually require a 2nd contract stating you will not change you plan (or features) within 6 months to 1 year or they charge you a penalty (usually $200 for removing OR changing the kind of data service from a phone like the tilt-- ex.: change from Unlimited data $30/month to Unlimited data & Text for $50/month, you broke the contract, they will charge you $200)
- Do not have to accept returns. Returns are done by companies as a 'favor' -- they are not required by US law (for most stores/products, some exceptions)
Big retailers or the Service Provider directly:
- Always have a return policy
- Almost never require a 2nd contract agreeing to keep features
- Usually $25 more for basic phones, up to $100 more for smartphones (they do not require Data, which most M&P/Internet sites give you $75-$100 off for getting and keeping for 6 months)
Other nice advantage of Big Retailers: If customer service at one place gives you no help and you're within reason to return it... go a few miles to another location and try again.... (again, if you're trying to return something 45 days later, you'll probably get no help where ever you go)
This wasnt a 'Mom and Pop' Shop, it was an official retailer. I was going to get the phone at a smaller AT&T but they said I would have to go to an official store that carried there high-end products. When I bought the phone the person I bought it from, I believe I have his buisiness card, but I will check later, allowed me to open the box in the store. He then told me if I wasn't satisfied I had 30 days for a return or replacement. I came back, 29 days later and they said that I had to call there warranty department because the device was not broken, and there fore he could not replace it. Essentially, they lied to me.
If it's not an AT&T corporate store, it's a Mom & Pop shop...
If they say "Authorized Retailer" they are not directly AT&T, they are reselling AT&T services and do not have to follow AT&T Corporate return policies...
Most of these locations are owned by individuals, or groups of individuals, as a business venture...
Keep in mind, anywhere from 50 to 85% of Wireless stores are NOT corporately owned by their service provider, and all of them (except T-Mobile) are allowed to put giant signs on the front of the building saying "AT&T" "Verizon" or "Sprint"... Sprint requires "Authorized Dealer" added to the logo, T-Mobile requires you to name your store something, and if you use T-Mobile logo it can be no more then 25% of the total sign space. AT&T I don't know the exact policy on their signage, but should require "Authorized Reseller" in the sign...
Of course, people can ignore these requirements, One of my old bosses did.. Hence why he's an old boss..
Quick Tip:
If they don't offer the IPhone they are not corporately owned...
At least in the DC metro area, every corporately owned AT&T store has a live active IPhone on display for customers to try
fizzie said:
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
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I worked for Acer Computers and they *****ed out with customers every single time something like this happened. This is sound advise

Lost and Found Moral Issue

I lost my tilt a couple of days ago only to find it today after already calling it in to replace it under my warranty. My problem now is I already paid the 50 dollars to replace it. Should I send it back or give it to my brother who is begging for it. Can the company see that he will be using my "lost" phone even if he has his own sim card. Thanks for any advice.
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Can the company see that he will be using my "lost" phone even if he has his own sim card. Thanks for any advice.
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Yes.
Don't know where you're living, but in E.U they can block IMEI in the whole system. You also may involve in insurance fraud, too.
To my opinion, you should call the company to check if they want you to do, and don't forget to ask back the deduction fee if they tell you to send it back.
My phone's service was turned off and will be reactivated once the new phone arrives with my new sim card. But what my brother wants to do is put his sim card in my old phone so he can use it that way. but that seems pretty shady to me. I don't want to get in trouble with my phone company. Should i let him do it and just use the phone they send me or just return it? I already paid for the new one, so is it wrong?
if they have blocked the IMEI number (most do when a phone is reported stolen / lost) then your brother will not be able to use it.
also if they catch your brother using it you (and your brother) can be done for a few reasons:
Insurance Fraud
Using stolen goods (knowing they are stolen)
etc
so to be honest id just phone them and see if you return the phone if they can reverse the charge. alot less hassle than paying fines etc in the near future
You probably won't get away with it..
But if you could - by all means, screw the insurance company as hard as you possibly can.
Not that I advocate this behavior at all, but I have been in a similar situation and had no problem using a previously thought lost device with a different sim on what used to be Cingular.
Under what warranty did you replace it?
You agreed to ship the phone back to them if you did find it. There's instructions that come in the box. But whether or not you do it is up to you.
Two options -
A. Ring up the company and see which they want back, OR
B. Don't.
If you go with A. you might get your money back, but I doubt it. I also doubt they will let you keep both.
If you go with B. you will be comitting fraud and if caught you will be in legal trouble and I will have no sympathy for you. If your brother wants a tilt, he can go buy his own, do NOT give him the spare or you will be putting a LOT of trust in him. Do NOT use it as a phone or otherwise allow it to be used as a phone - it will get traced which will lead to legal problems.
Realistically, you should go with A. - it's the right thing to do, it's less risky and the handset should effectively be useless to you anyway.
I love how you title this as a moral issue, but your only question is if the company can find out about it. Doesn't sound like you have any moral concerns but rather "will I get caught" concerns.
ship it to me. it'lld surly be lost for ever!
Call them. There is such a thing as Karma, if you don't call them you very well might really lose it and they won't give one back.
Regarding moral issue - this is EASY PEASEY - trade places - you are them and they are you - should THEY return it to you? You reported it stolen/lost - they replaced it you no longer own the other one - you must send it back.
Another analogy - you call your insurance company and say you have filed a police report that your car was stolen and then find it in your garage - can you cash the check and get another car and drive two of them? Nope - you are going to get caught filing a false report to the police and do some serious jail time.
The IMEI number is unique to the phone - you are going to get caught if you play fast and loose - don't pretend that it is a moral issue when you only want to know if you can get caught.
I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
I guess it really depends on who your service carrier is.
If its ATT/Cingular, I wouldn't return it. I'm almost 100% sure that they can track what phone you're using but not the IMEI number of that phone. The reason I say this is because I have a habit of switching or getting new phones every few months. I purchased the Tilt used from a HoFo member. I recently had problems with it and had to RMA it. They asked me for me IMEI number and I had a feeling it was past the year mark but they said that it looks like you've only had the phone since Sept so it would be covered under warranty. The thing is I got the phone from the HoFo member in Sept, but he said he had been using it for a few months prior to that.
But I could be wrong. You could always call ATT/Cingular and just be blunt about it and ask them if they can track your lost phone via IMEI because you have an idea of who might have it.
ChumleyEX said:
I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
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+1. I really shouldn't have found this so funny, but I did.
ChumleyEX said:
I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
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Yep, or send it to Jakeypoo then call the FBI with a confirmed 'handling stolen goods'
For all our European counterparts. In the E.U. it is very much illegal to use a "stolen" or "lost" phone. They also block IMEIs and CAN track them. For the life of me, all I've been able to find about whether the cell phones companies track or block IMEIs or phones is that we don't do it here the US. At&t and at&t's insurance companies have told me is "sorry, we can't track or block the phone from being used again." To me, the reason is obvious. If the phone is stolen, at&t gets a new customer and you have to buy a new phone.
You make your own decision and you make it at your own risk but search away and maybe you'll find the answer you're really looking for.
I doubt you'll spend the rest of your life in prison..... Hell maybe.... If you really feel bad about ripping off a mutli-billion dollar corporation that is already ripping you off. Huh.... Tough choice....
Ring the carrier, tell them to cancel warranty replacement as you have found the original and to refund you the $50 and reactivate the existing phone with either the old or new sim card. I believe under your statuatory rights (at least in the UK anyway) they would have to oblidge as you have the right to cancel a service (in this case the warranty replacement) within a reasonable amount of time.
Try it and save yourself $50 maybe....
This is no moral dilema at all. Just ask yourself "What Would Jesus Do?"
There's your answer.
Do the right thing. Call them and ask what you should do. That way there is no more guilt or fear.

HTC Must Hate Me

So I ordered a silver HTC one. Got black. I know Amazon issue right. So I stuck it out until the end of the return widow. Because I didn't want to be with a phone over a color. So eventually I did the exchange. The new HTC one I got now has bleeding of the buttons backlight on the bottom right hand corner. Now Amazon does not want anything to do with the phone. So now I have no choice but to send it into HTC for a repair. I have to pay for shipping and be without a phone again for at least 2 weeks. Now the last time HTC has fixed something for me they forced me to buy a new phone! They had replaced the motherboard and did a "IMEI transfer" and the IMEI could never be activated. HTC said it wasn't in sprint database. Sprint said the phone was broken. Both of them didn't want anything to do with me. So although I know Im not getting a new mother board, I'm scared of sending this in. Not only that I don't want to pay for shipping and be without a phone. Just a little rant I guess. So I don't know what i'm going to do.
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So I ordered a silver HTC one. Got black. I know Amazon issue right. So I stuck it out until the end of the return widow. Because I didn't want to be with a phone over a color. So eventually I did the exchange. The new HTC one I got now has bleeding of the buttons backlight on the bottom right hand corner. Now Amazon does not want anything to do with the phone. So now I have no choice but to send it into HTC for a repair. I have to pay for shipping and be without a phone again for at least 2 weeks. Now the last time HTC has fixed something for me they forced me to buy a new phone! They had replaced the motherboard and did a "IMEI transfer" and the IMEI could never be activated. HTC said it wasn't in sprint database. Sprint said the phone was broken. Both of them didn't want anything to do with me. So although I know Im not getting a new mother board, I'm scared of sending this in. Not only that I don't want to pay for shipping and be without a phone. Just a little rant I guess. So I don't know what i'm going to do.
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Don't send it in unless it is a major problem. I would have just stuck with the black that was fine except the color. When you exchange you never know what you might get. I don't know how bad the led bleed is, but ones I've seen are not so bad I would ever return one.
Good luck.
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Don't send it in unless it is a major problem. I would have just stuck with the black that was fine except the color. When you exchange you never know what you might get. I don't know how bad the led bleed is, but ones I've seen are not so bad I would ever return one.
Good luck.
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Thanks
Yeah, I might wait a while. For how small it is. It's very annoying watching videos in darkness. I got to say though silver is much better than black. I had fingerprints all over the back. Like my evo lte :/ . Maybe when I go on vacation and activate my Note. I'll send it in though, only if they pay for shipping.
My screen bleeds, there are a bunch of white dots when the screen is on but black, I thought it was going to bother me a lot and wanted to exchange, but didn't, you'll probably get over it too, so don't sent it lol
Sent from my HTCONE using xda premium
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Don't send it in unless it is a major problem. I would have just stuck with the black that was fine except the color. When you exchange you never know what you might get. I don't know how bad the led bleed is, but ones I've seen are not so bad I would ever return one.
Good luck.
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You must not be American. /jk
If you PAID money for your device, you are ENTITLED to a perfectly functioning, as advertised product. If HTC screws up, they will pay for shipping until they get it right (except the first time). So keep at it. Plus, why would you buy from amazon? The HTC website has it for a similar price, I'm sure.
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My phone has a bad screen/buttons/light, and it came this way, and no one will help me, so I have to go through HTC, which is not fun or cheap, or right.
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Call sprint corporate number. Say that your local store is not treating you to the proper standards that you, as a Sprint customer expect and deserve. Let them know that you are paying insurance for the device, but that you have not broken nor damaged any part of the phone, that this is how the phone has come, and that many other users have had the SAME problems you are facing, and they have been treated with respect and diligence. Sprint is top-notch at customer support, but sometimes local stores are assholes. One 19 year old kid (no offense to 19 y/os) thought he could treat me like **** cuz his name tag said 'manager'. He said since my phone was rooted he could not and would not assist me with an Evo 4G LTE hardware issue. I kindly informed him that Sprint corporate policy dictates that a rooted phone must be treated as any other phone. It will also be subject to a stock software 'update'. He said: "I am the manager, and I don't want my store helping people that root their phones". Called corporate on his rude ass, where they linked me to said policy, so I could print it. I went the next day, with key parts highlighted for him... He thanked me [sarcastically] for my phone call, and said he now had to deal with his write-up. Oh and he handed me a new phone which was shipped next-day for me
Long story short, Sprint takes care of their customers... But there is always one guy or another that just wants to be an ass. Speak with someone at corporate, maybe ask for a supervisor when you they answer. Let them know that you are being wronged. You will be helped. Oh and don't forget to say you wanted silver.
My HTC One is clean, beautiful, and 0 flaws, no light leakage, no recessed buttons, no screen popping out. But fortunately this was just luck; it's my first One
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You must not be American. /jk
If you PAID money for your device, you are ENTITLED to a perfectly functioning, as advertised product. If HTC screws up, they will pay for shipping until they get it right (except the first time). So keep at it. Plus, why would you buy from amazon? The HTC website has it for a similar price, I'm sure.
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It was 150 at the time.
Tilde88 said:
Call sprint corporate number. Say that your local store is not treating you to the proper standards that you, as a Sprint customer expect and deserve. Let them know that you are paying insurance for the device, but that you have not broken nor damaged any part of the phone, that this is how the phone has come, and that many other users have had the SAME problems you are facing, and they have been treated with respect and diligence. Sprint is top-notch at customer support, but sometimes local stores are assholes. One 19 year old kid (no offense to 19 y/os) thought he could treat me like **** cuz his name tag said 'manager'. He said since my phone was rooted he could not and would not assist me with an Evo 4G LTE hardware issue. I kindly informed him that Sprint corporate policy dictates that a rooted phone must be treated as any other phone. It will also be subject to a stock software 'update'. He said: "I am the manager, and I don't want my store helping people that root their phones". Called corporate on his rude ass, where they linked me to said policy, so I could print it. I went the next day, with key parts highlighted for him... He thanked me [sarcastically] for my phone call, and said he now had to deal with his write-up. Oh and he handed me a new phone which was shipped next-day for me
Long story short, Sprint takes care of their customers... But there is always one guy or another that just wants to be an ass. Speak with someone at corporate, maybe ask for a supervisor when you they answer. Let them know that you are being wronged. You will be helped. Oh and don't forget to say you wanted silver.
My HTC One is clean, beautiful, and 0 flaws, no light leakage, no recessed buttons, no screen popping out. But fortunately this was just luck; it's my first One
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Well I think I made progress They said they are "escalating" it. It wasn't fun or easy. But they are much nicer.
Dogie52 said:
Well I think I made progress They said they are "escalating" it. It wasn't fun or easy. But they are much nicer.
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Good luck! No one should have to suffer through build quality issues. Point period.
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So what was the outcome?
Thisis why I won't order my phone's through a third party online. I will order online but only from places I can physically return them to like sprint online or bestbuy online. Most times my phone's r fine but if I do have a problem I don't want to go through the waiting process.
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@Dogie52
So what was the outcome?
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I couldn't thank you enough man. Sprint corporate was very nice they out of question sent me a HTC one. Thanks again! Oh and sorry for a long wait im in the process of moving and im without a computer
Dogie52 said:
I couldn't thank you enough man. Sprint corporate was very nice they out of question sent me a HTC one. Thanks again! Oh and sorry for a long wait im in the process of moving and im without a computer
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glad it got sorted out. I love Sprint

Is it OK to complain about Motorola service?

I know this is about the PHONE...but its quality and likableness have been dramatically reduced by the awful Motorola customer service. Thus far I have yet received one workable solution. On the phone they normally kick me to another department or play some robot answer. With live chat and email I always get the exactly the same answer...sorry about the inconvenience, we will our best to assist and then lots of phone numbers being listed.
And all accessories do not deliver on time...
Am I alone on this?
No. Not alone
Customer service has been absolutely horrible for quite a few people.
They really need to train the call center people better, give them more power to solve problems.
Never promise to call someone back. Putting them on hold until someone can get on the line to solve the problem is always better.
Good customer support is becoming more and more rare these days. I think the only people who have been helpful is the GoDaddy phone support... and support for a Wordpress plugin called Nimble Porfolio. They're awesome. Everything else has been so disappointing... AT&T, Motorola, Google, etc etc. You name it, chances are their customer support sucks.
gunnyman said:
No. Not alone
Customer service has been absolutely horrible for quite a few people.
They really need to train the call center people better, give them more power to solve problems.
Never promise to call someone back. Putting them on hold until someone can get on the line to solve the problem is always better.
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Looking into my wifi issue, they asked if I had another phone I could talk to them on while I wiped the cache partition. When I asked if they could call me in an hour (I had no idea how long it would really take me and was growing tired of their BS) they said I had to call back.
Granted this was after I almost ripped level 1's head off because my cat had accidentally run across the keyboard, deleting the reference number and they couldn't find it again and actually admonished me for losing it. ("If you had kept the number you'd already be talking to level 2 sir")
I've given up on Moto support, just going off what I find here.
Oh and the chat said the Idle Battery Drain issue was "Common to all Android Phones"
I agree with you guys customer service has been horrible. I ordered my Moto X through Moto Maker on the 1st and recieved my phone on the 5th. Which was awesome except the phone they sent me was defective. The touch screen would not repsond to touch. I actually am not able to turn it off (It's still on right now) I called customer service and they did not believe me that the phone was bad right out of the box and they asked me if i dropped it and asked me to reboot and do all sorts of stuff to the phone even though I kept telling them the touch screen was not responsive. They finally gave me 2 options the fast way or the slow way. They said I could pay full price for a new phone and send back the defective one and once they got that they would refund me. My second option was to mail back my new defective phone and wait a week or 2 until they send me the new code to order another phone. After I told them I'm not sure of their quality anymore the operator assured me the new phone they were sending me would be guaranteed to work. I asked why my first phone wasn't guaranteed to work she politely informed me that they were still not sure if it didn't work and that I may not know how to use my phone.
This customer service experience is sad and I expected more for Motorola besides a $ 25 Google play gift card. Now I'm out $1,000 and still don't have a working Moto X.
EggNogg421 said:
I agree with you guys customer service has been horrible. I ordered my Moto X through Moto Maker on the 1st and recieved my phone on the 5th. Which was awesome except the phone they sent me was defective. The touch screen would not repsond to touch. I actually am not able to turn it off (It's still on right now) I called customer service and they did not believe me that the phone was bad right out of the box and they asked me if i dropped it and asked me to reboot and do all sorts of stuff to the phone even though I kept telling them the touch screen was not responsive. They finally gave me 2 options the fast way or the slow way. They said I could pay full price for a new phone and send back the defective one and once they got that they would refund me. My second option was to mail back my new defective phone and wait a week or 2 until they send me the new code to order another phone. After I told them I'm not sure of their quality anymore the operator assured me the new phone they were sending me would be guaranteed to work. I asked why my first phone wasn't guaranteed to work she politely informed me that they were still not sure if it didn't work and that I may not know how to use my phone.
This customer service experience is sad and I expected more for Motorola besides a $ 25 Google play gift card. Now I'm out $1,000 and still don't have a working Moto X.
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Oh man, I am so sorry to hear this. Hope you can get a workable phone soon.
p.s. I do not know whether I should laugh or mad when I read that she implied you did not know how to use oh my!
freeintruth said:
Oh man, I am so sorry to hear this. Hope you can get a workable phone soon.
p.s. I do not know whether I should laugh or mad when I read that she implied you did not know how to use oh my!
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The "user is an idiot" is a typical mind set in ATT/Motoland
i can't even begin to describe the scars i have from dealing with their Support. it's chaotic and confusing.

sprint offering early upgrades for G4 users.

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This promotion ended.
Lease and easy pay only? That's stupid.
They no longer offer a two year. Anyone on a new plan that two years gets a subsidised phone charge.
RevChappy said:
I'll make this post pretty short. Sprint is giving people early upgrade for those with the LGG4 in IB agreements.
See the attachment.
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Thank you so much! Forgive me, but I do not know all of the jargon/ acronyms used in that post.
we have two lines on a family plan that have g4s (1 yr left, phone purchased from amazon, and just got them back from LG warranty repair), can we just walk in and ask for an early upgrade (and will the employee know what we are talking about or do we need to direct them to look up some sort of memo)?
Also, would we get to keep our phones or do we have to trade them in?
Thank you so much! Until I saw this we were thinking about having t mobile buy us out...
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Thank you so much! Forgive me, but I do not know all of the jargon/ acronyms used in that post.
we have two lines on a family plan that have g4s (1 yr left, phone purchased from amazon, and just got them back from LG warranty repair), can we just walk in and ask for an early upgrade (and will the employee know what we are talking about or do we need to direct them to look up some sort of memo)?
Also, would we get to keep our phones or do we have to trade them in?
Thank you so much! Until I saw this we were thinking about having t mobile buy us out...
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You would need to go on, or call and see if you have the offer on your account for it. I have yet to see the offer personally, so I can't give you a ton of details.
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You would need to go on, or call and see if you have the offer on your account for it. I have yet to see the offer personally, so I can't give you a ton of details.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll check it out. It seems weird that some customers would get the offer and others would not... thanks again though!
Is there a date on this? I was told it expired via the Sprint reddit.
I was in there today, and they said that the offer has expired. But they also said they are re-working the offer, and it may be coming back. I'll keep you guys updated!
Is sprint telling people that the phone has a defect on the phone
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Just got a call from my local Sprint store today wanting me to come in and receive an upgrade from my LG G4 to a new phone. First, Sprint never calls me. Second, I shouldn't be eligible for an upgrade yet. And finally, I didn't even purchase the phone from the local Sprint store, I got it from Best buy. Anyone else get a call like this?
I'm in the same scenario - 2 Sprint G4's with 1 year left on a 2 Yr Agreement. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. My phone bootlooped and was handled by LG Warranty about 4 months ago. Other line still somehow hasn't perished yet, so his is SOL if his phone bootloops (cause LG warranty is over by August 1st - possibly mine too, I don't know if the warranty extends if your phone bootloops and gets replaced or not, can't remember). We got our phones through Best Buy as well. Nothing yet hear.
I would love to hear about some kind of early termination option tbh because I wanna get a S7E. Not going to LG ever again after this phone. Had everything I wanted but it's just been kind of a letdown. At least LG's warranty repair service was fast (at least for me).
KillerDisturbed said:
I'm in the same scenario - 2 Sprint G4's with 1 year left on a 2 Yr Agreement. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. My phone bootlooped and was handled by LG Warranty about 4 months ago. Other line still somehow hasn't perished yet, so his is SOL if his phone bootloops (cause LG warranty is over by August 1st - possibly mine too, I don't know if the warranty extends if your phone bootloops and gets replaced or not, can't remember). We got our phones through Best Buy as well. Nothing yet hear.
I would love to hear about some kind of early termination option tbh because I wanna get a S7E. Not going to LG ever again after this phone. Had everything I wanted but it's just been kind of a letdown. At least LG's warranty repair service was fast (at least for me).
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It's a known issue, so even with out insurance they have to replace it for you.
stcloud99 said:
Just got a call from my local Sprint store today wanting me to come in and receive an upgrade from my LG G4 to a new phone. First, Sprint never calls me. Second, I shouldn't be eligible for an upgrade yet. And finally, I didn't even purchase the phone from the local Sprint store, I got it from Best buy. Anyone else get a call like this?
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I believe anyone who had the device replaced by the defect easy getting targeted for the offer.
Don't you like how if your phone has the known issue, but you don't know about it or forget to get it replaced before the end of your term, you have to pay a damage fee for the known defect?
just got off the chat with sprint, it is still available if you are
"Yes, that is correct. Normally, it will only be hotter than normal if being used while charging. But since you mentioned that you are just using it as normal and not when charging, I highly suggest that the device will be physically checked by our dedicated Sprint store technicians. Yes, we currently offer advance exchange for the defective device via Repair or Warranty Exchange process, however, based on the offer, it only applies for LG G4 Device won't power on, power cycles, or freezes / fails to boot up."
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just got off the chat with sprint, it is still available if you are
"Yes, that is correct. Normally, it will only be hotter than normal if being used while charging. But since you mentioned that you are just using it as normal and not when charging, I highly suggest that the device will be physically checked by our dedicated Sprint store technicians. Yes, we currently offer advance exchange for the defective device via Repair or Warranty Exchange process, however, based on the offer, it only applies for LG G4 Device won't power on, power cycles, or freezes / fails to boot up."
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My device was already replaced last month due to the bootloop, would I still be eligible now?
Considering my device just bootlooped yesterday I intend to call Sprint about this because chat seems clueless, thanks for posting this.
would they let me simply terminate the lease and return the G4 phone without getting a new one? I want to cancel the line the lease is on.
I talked to Sprint and after talking to a couple reps they agreed to terminate the lease and let me upgrade to a different phone if I paid $100. It would usually take one business day but considering my phone is currently out of service they got it to 4 hours.
Unfortunately after a hour of talking, exchanges are only available. Lame. I even mentioned about our whole family has lg issues and we have been with you (sprint) over ten years and you cant or wouldnt contact us, but you can send me a stupid survey text everytime we call. Then i was told i could get the ugrade date reset for 100.00.

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