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I don't often use the camera in my Tilt, that is to say I never use it on purpose. If I need a camera on the spot, I'll use it. It's better than nothing sometimes.
I hadn't used it in a while and this weekend I needed to grab a photo of something and I noticed that the window on the battery cover was very strange looking, almost a fractal pattern of scratches or etches on it. Very light, but making it very foggy. Unfortunately I didn't notice until later, and my shots were horrible. After I noticed the fogginess, I took a few test shots with and without the cover, and without the cover the shots looked as 'good' as they ever do.
So I got out my Novus plastic polish that I use to polish up light scratches out of gadgets (similar to Applesauce and other products) and polished the window for a few minutes and all of the weird foggy layer went away. It took a few times, so it wasn't simply dirty, etc. Now I have a 'ring' of this weird looking fogginess around the edges of the lens but that doesn't affect the camera. So I took a few more test shots and the different between with the battery cover and without are back to negligible.
Just thought I'd mention it for folks who are taking off the battery cover to take photos or thinking about removing the 'lens' in the battery cover. If you have something to polish plastic and your lens looks foggy, give this a try.
I might try to take a picture of it sometime, but not sure I'll be able to really capture it well.
I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!
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I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!
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Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?
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Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?
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yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.
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yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.
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I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.
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I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.
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Just in case people aren't aware, the lens cover is not plastic but really thin coated glass. The coating thats been applied to it clearly isn't heavy duty enough for the type of ordinary use the device gets as mine also developed this problem, even though I'm very careful with how I treat it. I too used brasso to polish the coating off and then cleaned it with my Klearscreen and microfibre cloth and all is now well. I thought the blurry photos I was getting were because I wasn't holding the device still enough but it turned out to be Chromatic Aberation (click the link for an excellent Wikipedia description).
thanks for the advice, now my pics won't look like they've been altered by some cheap gaussian blur effects,
Hello folks,
As most of you reading I am a happy Topaz user,
But I find it sad, that I almost do not dare to use the device without stylus
Whenever I touch the phone, it leaves a dirty mark...
And I cannot live with that, So I always want to clean it afterwards
I mean... even with a screen protector installed, it gets dirty too quick,
And I recon I cannot walk around with a bunch of cleaning tools either
So, what's your opinion on this? or do you have a good solution?
Do you care that the screen is dirty, or not? please tell me
Thanks already
- Jeutie
is ok , you can always change screen protector .
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... I almost do not dare to use the device without stylus
Whenever I touch the phone, it leaves a dirty mark...
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I use an antiglare screen protector I got from Brando (http://shop.brando.com.hk/bw-pda-screen-protector-htc-touch-diamond-2-_p03225c1035d039.html). You lose something in brightness but it is very impervious to dirt and fingerprints.
There is also an hot debate on matte finishing battery cover. I simply painted the original cover using matte spray acrylic paint (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3950791&postcount=67) Of course you need a bit of manual dexterity and a brave heart...
I just leave it dirty
I thought about another screen protector aswell... but I think I'll fail again xD
(screen protector was dusty already when I putted it on, But I'll try again.)
Thanks for the information
But Would you recommend the normal screen protector or the Ultra Clear one?
Hi
Yep feel the same, hated touching it when I first got it as any touch leaves a fingerprint, if you try and wipe it away you make it worse. The aluminium surround really shows up finger prints and then smudges and so does the screen even with screen protector on. Even ear prints are clearly visible!
This isn't unique to the Topaz though, the state I've seen some iPhones in
So I just live with the fact it only looks shiny and new after a quick clean with some cleaner and a microfibre cloth, for just a short period of time.
It would help if the back was matt black or rubberised, but it isn't. I really don't understand the people that design these things as surely they must put them through some form of user testing, and I can't believe out of an even tiny group of testers the comment 'finger print magnet' didn't arise.
Regards
Phil
I do have the matt finish ;-) bought it way overpriced on ebay...
But the screen protector didn't help so I was looking for something better
and indeed, the aluminium is even worse xD
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The Ultra Clear looks and feels as the original screen and as other screen protectors, that is glass like. Therefore, dirt and fingerprints remain very visible.
On the other hand the antiglare has a kind of very small granularity over it. Dirt and fingerprints do not stick to it and fingers, nails and stylus glide very nicely over it. On the other hand, it is not completely transparent, expecially under direct sunlight.
But so, for the fingerprint issue, the normal one should be better, then the ultra clear one, Thanks
I'll order one on Monday, And I'll get someone less clumsy to put it on ^^
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'finger print magnet'
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That's a PERFECT DEFINITION! My opinion is that being a "touch" device, we have no great chances to solve the problem on what concerns the screen..Other question is the backVery sexy on picture but fingerprint hungry and sometimes slippy!! Waiting for a mat cover at decent price.BTW congrats to ouram57 for his guts! But is the painting layer resisting,especially at the corners?
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BTW congrats to ouram57 for his guts!
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Well, after all I could always buy a new cover (http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=179389).
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But is the painting layer resisting,especially at the corners?
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The painting is quite resistant but of course scratches accumulate as they did on the shiny original case (but they are a bit less visible). The good news is that on too many scratches paint can be applied again...
You're right! If it's been successfully done once, why not repeat it if needed..
Hoping that none of us will ever need it,http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=179389 is one of the most expensive pieces of plastic on earth
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You're right! If it's been successfully done once, why not repeat it if needed..
Hoping that none of us will ever need it,http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=179389 is one of the most expensive pieces of plastic on earth
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...especially as its not for the TD2, check it out, it has 2 holes at the top and a diamond back!?!
TD1 maybe ???
That "thing" with two holes is also on sale at HTC's:http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179389 as "original" cover for D2Very affordable as usual.. I get mad if I think it's about 10% of the phone's price. My ideal back cover would be mat gummy black, just like the Kaiser (a.k.a TytnII).. hope someone is going to think about it!
Aright... I have applied the screen protector...
That's great! no more fingerprints on the screen
Together with the backcover and installation of some cabs... my device is totally like I want it
Thanks folks!
Hi there.
As the title reads I got a 3mm long scratch on the display of my galaxy ... the scratch distorts the colours, so it's quite annoying once you notice it (and it's particularly annoying on brighter backgrounds) ... I have absolutely no idea how it happened, as I am using a bag for it all the while it's in my pocket to prevent it from getting scratches...
Soo, my question:
Is there anything I can do to "fix" the scratch?
Once scratch happens, then it pretty much stays there.
Sometime a screen protectors can help hide the scratches make it less noticeable. Other than that there are no way to fix it I suppose.
Good screen protector hide all scratches.
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Please don't try this at home!
If the scratch isn't too deep then you may be able to polish it out with some wet/dry sandpaper.
But you may damage the touch screen if you go too deep.
Sent from my AWESOME Galaxy S
For ****s sake DO NOT take sand paper to the touch screen!! what kind of advice is that?
once scratched, that's it. if it really annoys you, you'll have to replace the screen.
Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?
At first I also thought what a silly idea to use sand paper on glass.
But after googling the web and quick research, it can be done!
Using high grit silicon carbide wet/dry sanding paper can remove scratches from glass.
Though, I wouldn't try it my self but thanks for the pointer.
here are an example of what can be done:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html
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Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?
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Screen protector I would recommend to hide the scratches is the Zagg invisible shield.
It is made of polymer that kinda adhere to the screen very tightly help smooth over scratches and make them less noticeable compare to other brand.
BIG BIG DISCLAIMER:
Zagg invisible shield is NOT for everyone. The polymer material can feel sticky and a bit soft. So be warned, it is a love hate relationship when it comes to zagg.
Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.
If you change your mobile phone every year then I can understand.
However, my mobile phone lasted me at least 2-3 years each. My previous two was XDA O2 > Samsung Omnia i900 and now Galaxy S
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Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.
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I noticed that the (super) AMOLED displays are relatively cheap in comparison to the traditional LCD screens that you can find on for example the HTC's. Here in the Netherlands I found a company that will repair/substitute a Galaxy S screen for 100 euro. (Compared to 250 euro for a HD2 screen) And I didn't search that hard. I bet that there are companies that do it for less.
If other solutions doesn't work for you, google the internet and look what the prices are for a new display in your neighbourhood. Maybe its much cheaper than you thought.
That's beyound any logic.
OLED/AMOLED screens are more expensive than LCD screens, 250$ for the HD2 screen is an overly blown-out price, you can find screens on ebay for less than half that price.
About sandpaper and whatnot- Yeah, high-grit sandpaper is a way to polish out scratches on glass.
I won't ever try it on the SGS, since i don't know where exactly is the digitizer layer.
You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.
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You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.
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aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.
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aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.
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Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.
If its not insured, then get it insured and claim the repairs of the insurance. Accidental damage should cover it.
outch, didn't know. best keep it scratch-less then.
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Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.
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From eHow:
Use Coca Cola to remove small scratches. Apply a small amount to a soft cloth and rub the scratches. Re-apply until the scratches are gone. The citric acid and carbonation in the soda help clean and remove small scratches in some items.
Read more: How to Remove Small Scratches From Window Panes | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html#ixzz0uhmjVFLT
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LoL is that for real?
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LoL is that for real?
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LoL I guess it is... the link is there and I just read about it.
I think is the cheapest way to try to fix small scratches.. I think I will try on some old phones around the house LOL
My N4 finally came today and everything on it is perfect, no buzzing noise, no reboots, no yellow screen. But there is a very small indentation on the bezel. It's not a scratch but it looks like something from when it was manufactured. I'm just gonna keep it, it adds personality to it
Lol.
10 char
Hmm..got a picture?
Good decision. Unfortunately the bezel is vacuform plated plastic, and by its very nature is prone to blemishes (as are the buttons); my only real pet-peeve about the construction of this phone.
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I'm having something similar I think. It's on the upper bezel....it's like a 1 inch horizontal line (when holding the phone in portrait) on the upper bezel. It's like it's underneath the glass, and it's like a 1-inch wavy line. Initially I thought it was residue from the factory plastic...but when I wiped, it would not go. It's some sort of molding-related thing to the plastic I'm sure.
It doesn't bother me as I know the manufacturing isn't perfect.
What bothers me is how small the phone is. Lol. I've been using the N7000 for so long I'm actually worried that this phone will slip out of my hands. Lol.
The size difference in screen is astounding....I'm having "some" reservations about keeping it.
It's also unfortunate that project butter is not all it's hyped up to be. I've seen it choke already on 3 occasions within the first 5 minutes. I guess I'll just remind myself that I've only paid $349 for this.
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It's also unfortunate that project butter is not all it's hyped up to be. I've seen it choke already on 3 occasions within the first 5 minutes. I guess I'll just remind myself that I've only paid $349 for this.
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in general UI it makes a noticeable difference however lots of apps still do not default to GPU rendering and tend to stutter; you can force it in the developers options however its not a perfect solution.
I also have something I'm not quite sure about what it is. It seems to be a little piece of rubber/plastic/whatever sticking between bezel and glass. It's between front facing camera and earphone. At first it looks like a scratch and when you look closer it looks like the rubber that comes up if you pry up the iPhone's Display for repair. Are we talking about the same?
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I also have something I'm not quite sure about what it is. It seems to be a little piece of rubber/plastic/whatever sticking between bezel and glass. It's between front facing camera and earphone. At first it looks like a scratch and when you look closer it looks like the rubber that comes up if you pry up the iPhone's Display for repair. Are we talking about the same?
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No.
Mine is something underneath the glass, in the middle location of the upper bezel, a wavy line about 1-inch in horizontal fashion when held in portrait mode.
It's below the speaker, to the left of the front facing camera. In the middle region. Some sort of molding-related issue. There is no scratch on the glass, etc. It's like when the bezel was stuck onto the glass, it was not perfect, etc.
It's a minor cosmetic issue though. Doesn't affect the functionality of the phone.
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LOL I'm so funny. I make myself laugh.
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My N4 finally came today and everything on it is perfect, no buzzing noise, no reboots, no yellow screen. But there is a very small indentation on the bezel. It's not a scratch but it looks like something from when it was manufactured. I'm just gonna keep it, it adds personality to it
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Mine has same. But since no other probs keeping it.
The bezel above the usb port on mine was lifted from the body enough to see into the phone. I just squeezed it together some. All good~
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:laugh: Yes!
Same here there's a small mark on the top right corner
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LOL I'm so funny. I make myself laugh.
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I've laughed at 3 of your posts now. Just got a chuckle in a previous thread. Thanks.
Seems like gorilla glass 2 isnt all that scratch resistant, or you have rocks in your pocket or something. I have never caused an unintentional scratch on any of my gorilla glass equipped phones. I will probably be getting a screen protector for this one though, and will use the official bumper whenever it comes into stock. Only like 35 more weeks until I get my phone!
2 Nexus 4's both have minor imperfections on the shinny chrome bezel, which is actually plastic I believe.
1- on the bottom of the left side a minor indentation, not scratch
2- on the bottom of the right side paint bubbling out, as if there was a spec of dust when the coat of paint was applied.
The second is more noticeable especially that it on the top part, while first is on bottom part.
But both magically disappear when the N4 is put in a case.
The manufacturing imperfection that's actually getting on my nerves just because I'm OCD (I truly am, not a self diagnosis ), is the little square glass covering the camera flash, it is ever so slightly rotated that it doesn't perfectly align with the black bezel around it ... it took me a mico second to spot it out of the box, and I cannot unsee it. It cannot be misaligned by more than a 10th of a millimeter, but somehow I can see it at arms length ... I'm just crazy!
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Seems like gorilla glass 2 isnt all that scratch resistant, or you have rocks in your pocket or something. I have never caused an unintentional scratch on any of my gorilla glass equipped phones. I will probably be getting a screen protector for this one though, and will use the official bumper whenever it comes into stock. Only like 35 more weeks until I get my phone!
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Any glass isn't particularly scratch resistant. Lint and small particles will scratch any sort of glass, or just about anything with enough force. From personal experience, I've found that Gorilla Glass 2 is more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1 because it's thinner, despite Corning's presentation of it as being able to withstand the same amount of force.
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LOL! I thought it was made of rubber. But that comment cracks me up
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This make me lough so hard...hillariously funny
Hi there. A week ago I bought Xiaomi Mi A2. Now I noticed my screen is scratched! In center of screen I can see all the moves my fingers do (look at the photo). It doesnt come off, no matter what cloth I rub it. Isnt A2 supposed to have GG5?
https://imgur.com/a/KfH7ziy
Can someone relate to this problem?
THX
I understand how hairline scratch occurs, but this?
EDIT: After few minutes I dont thing its scratched. By the looks and feels on polished screen it looks like some kind of ,,glue" overfilled frome side of the screen and was wiped to the right. I never used any protector except the original sticker but I know the digitizer and glass is somehow glued together so some excess of this maybe. Will try to put protector on it, if it is still visible then RMA
scratched wouldn't be covered under any warranty.
i think these only use gg3
in original posters case the pictures just look like finger smudges to me in person i bet its different but if that does move about and shows up when screen is on it may be fault panel so return for replacement.
faults do happen the % is low but they still happen no one or company can stop this they do test units before shipping
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scratched wouldn't be covered under any warranty.
i think these only use gg3
in original posters case the pictures just look like finger smudges to me in person i bet its different but if that does move about and shows up when screen is on it may be fault panel so return for replacement.
faults do happen the % is low but they still happen no one or company can stop this they do test units before shipping
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GG3 was more scratch resistant than the GG5 so A2 is more likely to use GG5. As for the OP, it's either glue as you said which you could remove with some rubbing alcohol. If that doesn't work, then it could probably be the Oleophobic coating which could be a manufacturing error or you had some type of chemical on your hands that messed it up.
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GG3 was more scratch resistant than the GG5 so A2 is more likely to use GG5. As for the OP, it's either glue as you said which you could remove with some rubbing alcohol. If that doesn't work, then it could probably be the Oleophobic coating which could be a manufacturing error or you had some type of chemical on your hands that messed it up.
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Since I dont work or use any chemicals in my life other than basic detergent for dishes I doubt that. Anyway I tried cleaning it off with isopropyl alcohol and sticker-glue remover with no luck. The stains are permanent, invisible when screen on. I tried rubbing it with credit card slightly and I can clearly feel that it is on the surface of glass. If I completely polish the screen with glasses cloth, the stains disappear and reappear when I slide my fingers over the area and ,,grease" it a little.
Contacted the seller, returning phone and getting my money back since I am positive it is a manufacturing problem.
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Since I dont work or use any chemicals in my life other than basic detergent for dishes I doubt that. Anyway I tried cleaning it off with isopropyl alcohol and sticker-glue remover with no luck. The stains are permanent, invisible when screen on. I tried rubbing it with credit card slightly and I can clearly feel that it is on the surface of glass. If I completely polish the screen with glasses cloth, the stains disappear and reappear when I slide my fingers over the area and ,,grease" it a little.
Contacted the seller, returning phone and getting my money back since I am positive it is a manufacturing problem.
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No it's just the oleophobic coating. This is normal for GG5
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Okay, did you clean your phone using alcohol or by any hand sanitizer.
I used a hand sanitizer to clean my Mi A1 screen and i lost the coating .
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No I didnt do any of that. What coating do you mean? Dont think the glass is coated...
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Well you're probably right. I had no idea something like this exists. Put that in Google and found many pictures of worn off coating even on Samsungs. But after a week? What a shame
BTW other than what Iwrote, there easnt any chemical on the screen
EDIT: eg this looks exactly like the thing on my phone: https://forums.windowscentral.com/attachments/nokia-lumia-930/86096d1414705779t-img_0535.jpg