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Old threaded sms in new Manilla?

Hey!
Most of the cooked roms are now using the new Manila version of the threaded sms. And all though I like most of the roms out there, I have a big problem with the new Manila way of writing sms. So...
- How do I go about changing the threaded sms back to the old version?
I.e.: When I click on a received sms on the Messages tab in Manila, I want it to go to the standard Windows threaded sms view.
Cheers!

I'd like this too, the Windows version was clean yet slick.

if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.

MistaRip said:
if you click on "all messages" instead of the sms, it'll open the old way.
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Yes, I know that one. But that doesn't really account for a fix now, does it?
What I'm after is only the sms solution from the old Manila.
My guess is that it's not that a difficult configuration thing (since it's only in the last couple of weeks that the "new sms way" has appeared).
If you try an old version of Manila and view/send sms from there, I think you'll see what I want in terms of functionality...

True the old way is still there, but it'd be nice to revert but to it completely without sacrificing all the other fantastic Manilla improvements.

im also looking for a way to get this to work.
did anyone find anything out?
thanks.

Count me in too....

Me too..

Me three!

Me four!
The new Manila SMS looks good, but is really inferior to the WinMo default in terms of functionality.

Me too. I'd love to use the default threaded SMS of WindowMobile. Becoz the new threaded SMS of new Manila is very slow do appear.
Are there any solutions or registry to fix this matter?
Thanks

Any solution? I'd like old threaded sms back too...

Anyone? Can't someone from the ROM Gurus help?

Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script

NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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I can donate for your efforts! Can't afford much but atleast for a beer of two, and I'm sure that trere will be more people ready to donate a little for this!

NRGZ28 said:
Someone will have to edit the lua script responsible for it. I would... but I actually like the Manila SMS and clicking All Messages is not really THAT bad compared to the pain the ass of editing the lua script
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Could you please help me by pointing me in the right direction?
(i.e: where the script is located, and how to edit it)

anything new on the matter?

Did anyone find a solution ?

I posted a solution ages ago, cant even remember where.. ah found it
Basically when you click the sms icon in manila tab it drops back to winmo client,is that what you want?
All it takes is to use an older version of the manila file I think..
Any way as it's a cab it's uninstallable if it doesnt work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189081&d=1243378698

Works great! Thanks a lot, I've been looking for this for hours

text messaging tf3d issue...

my htc fuze is running windows mobile 6.1 NATF V4.5S ROM.. I need help because my phone says it has 1 unread txt message and it really doesnt.. i think it deals with tf3d because i deleted all the messages on my phone and it still says the same thing... Sorry for the new thread but i did search for this answer but the search terms wasn't helping...please tell what to do..!!!

wow
heh i actually have this same problem but im using EnergyROM 3.0 Phoenix ! ~ interested in the solution! ~

Get a good tool (m(mmaid or sktools) and clean the notifications queue. Problems like this exist since WinMo 6.

megatilter said:
heh i actually have this same problem but im using EnergyROM 3.0 Phoenix ! ~ interested in the solution! ~
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update your rom to EnergyROM Warhawk

No...
text messaging and voicemail notification both use the same "thing" from AT&T...
You need to call AT&T and have them reset your message waiting indicator...

I have a friend with the Black Jack 2 with the same problem... is it AT&T or WinMo?

wingman1487 said:
I have a friend with the Black Jack 2 with the same problem... is it AT&T or WinMo?
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Haha, I've had the same phone before my fuze..lol
but to answer other questions, it's not the at&t indicator.
I've already spoke with them, they cant control the text messages, only the voicemails.
I think it has to do something with the phone, more windows.

avemn1 said:
Haha, I've had the same phone before my fuze..lol
but to answer other questions, it's not the at&t indicator.
I've already spoke with them, they cant control the text messages, only the voicemails.
I think it has to do something with the phone, more windows.
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its one of the .htm file that is causing that. I forgot exactly but there's a fix floating around. thats what I did with the 6.1 Bloat Free Offiicial Fuze ROM I made. I extracted that .htm file from the Fuze leak ROM and integrated it to my Bloat Free Offiicial Fuze ROM.

Same problem
I have had this problem since updating my ROM. I'm running att's rom but don't use Touch Flo. I have gotten this message even after I delete all text's. What I have to do is launch TF and there it is, supposedly a new message. I delete it then shut off TF. Will prob change my ROM soon though, hate bloatware.

SSG Lou said:
I have had this problem since updating my ROM. I'm running att's rom but don't use Touch Flo. I have gotten this message even after I delete all text's. What I have to do is launch TF and there it is, supposedly a new message. I delete it then shut off TF. Will prob change my ROM soon though, hate bloatware.
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Try my ROM you might like it.

I had this problem once on my Tilt. Turns out there was a registry corruption with an unread MMS. I believe it may be the same situation. I'd recommend looking around the Tilt forums (Kaiser) for the issue.

why no fix for slow htc messaging?!!

in my opinion , the one and only one downside of whole manila 2.5 is its messaging app..i dont understand why its so buggy..i have seen htc messaging in manila 2.1 quite good and effective..no reason why htc has changed a stable messaging version to a buggy one...
hey guys any fix would be sooo welcome....

you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.

i'll venture further saying that the chefs DO NOT HAVE THE SOURCE CODE to manila or windows mobile for what it matters. they can do some tweaking some conf changes etc but cannot rewrite the software

Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!

windows mobile is slow....the hardware is fast enough for a bunch of things. dont take me wrong here i like winmobo but the "genious" in microsoft dont care much about user experience...hope win7 fix some of our issues.

cortez.i said:
you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.
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I second this, Look at the newer releases and you will notice changes to the stability of the messaging app. Yes it still a bit slow, have you seen the iPhone load a decent conversation history? Slow messaging app when theres more than 100 sms, thats why they needed the 3GS. A little lag isn't too bad considering the Leo's specs.

HTC Messaging looks cool but is useless when you use programs that send SMS with it. It simply will not work. The program needs to be updated to HTC standard. But isn't HTC ought to folllow WM standard? By creating imncompatiblity of not using Standrd, HTC will create a floodgate of problems in the years to come.

honestly, if they could use Manilla 2.5 with the Manila 2.1 messaging, it would be fine
i love everything about 2.5..it's just the messaging. unfortunately...that's a big problem with no fix =[. for now, WinMo messaging is fine =]
love the new calendar, the new buttons, etc..much more friendly

gbjack said:
HTC Messaging looks cool but is useless when you use programs that send SMS with it. It simply will not work. The program needs to be updated to HTC standard. But isn't HTC ought to folllow WM standard? By creating imncompatiblity of not using Standrd, HTC will create a floodgate of problems in the years to come.
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Yes, It has already broken many anti-theft software like Remote Tracker and Sprite Terminator which intercept incoming SMS.
They work fine on M2.1's HTC messaging, but not with M2.5.

cortez.i said:
you do know that significant fixes/improvements will have to come from HTC and not the cooks. also, keep in mind that manila 2.5 has been designed to work with the HD2's faster processor and not the slower HD processor.
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I hope that this remark is very old, because you need to read the LEO forum. The problem is also on a new LEO device! Disabling HTC messaging gives you the old M$ outlook back, but it removes functionality in contacts, clicking on "send message" doesn't take you to SMS! I hope somebody can make a solution for this.

theres one thing I dont understand
When you click in manila at "All messages" in TF3D2.5, then we come in the new HTC styled SMS overview.
I don't understand why the kinetic scrolling of this SMS overview is such unfunktional:
When you slide fast with your finger, it scrolls fast, smooth and normal.
But when you slide slow, it scrolls very strange...
Its very smooth and all, but its very strange... so slow...
But not slow in case of too weak hardware. Like issue in kinetic scrolling software.
I think the only problem of TF3D 2.5 is, that we need a file out of a Leo dump that we don't have.
Because the effects alone are not such special that we need Leo hardware.
Which API does TF3D 2.5 use? OpenGL, .NET?

pim.vol file caching experiment for performance improvement
guys, correct me if I'm wrong here.
the SMS Messages are stored in pim.vol file (not exactly sure what's the corresponding MMS Messages file) located at the root directory. It is excluded from being cached by fsreplxfilt.dll (File Replication for Persistent Storage) StorageManager filter.
What if pim.vol is being cached, will it improve HTC Messaging performance?
This modification however, must be cooked into XIP (with modified boot.rgu / boot.hv) for full effect, even though the registry is here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt]
"NumDirsToExclude"=dword:d
"DirsToExclude"=multi_sz: "\\mxip_initdb.vol",
"\\mxip_system.vol",
"\\mxip_notify.vol",
"\\mxip_lang.vol",
"\\cemail.vol",
[B]"\\pim.vol",[/B]
"\\Documents and Settings\\",
"\\Program Files\\",
"\\Windows\\",
"\\Application Data\\",
"\\ConnMgr\\",
"\\mxip_swmgmt.vol",
"\\Temp\\"
Have anyone / any chef willing to try to cook a ROM and Not Exclude pim.vol to be cached and see if that improves the performance? Although there might be side effect such as loss of data, but it may help to improve HTC Messaging performance?

eddyve said:
I hope that this remark is very old, because you need to read the LEO forum. The problem is also on a new LEO device! Disabling HTC messaging gives you the old M$ outlook back, but it removes functionality in contacts, clicking on "send message" doesn't take you to SMS! I hope somebody can make a solution for this.
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doesn't matter if my comment is old/new. i still believe fixes/enhancements will still have to come from HTC. it's unfortunate that HD2 owners are suffering the same poor performance. it's my hope that performance will be improved by the time the HD2 makes it to the USA. (ok, so i'm dreaming, lol).

ANDYx1975 said:
Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!
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B.S. Mobile outlook works really fast with the same set of SMS, on which HTC Messaging is just dying. So it is not about device power but about bad programming.

MaXyM said:
B.S. Mobile outlook works really fast with the same set of SMS, on which HTC Messaging is just dying. So it is not about device power but about bad programming.
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you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.

ANDYx1975 said:
Buy a Leo and everything will work fine. It was never designed for Blackstone. It's not slow...our devices are slow!!!
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I suggest that you read the Leo forum and you will see that these users are also complaining about the slow speed of HTC Messaging. It is not about the hardware, it is about the software!

skulk3r said:
you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.
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I agree with the above, if I keep my stored message below a 20-30 limit on the device for each contact I have absolutely no problem with the messaging speed, it's as quick as I need it to be.
All my messages are synced to MS MyPhone, so if I need anything i've previously deleted from the device, I can login and go to the archive section and find it or search for it if I don't remember when it was.
I don't see the need for people to store 100's of messages on there device now, when the MyPhone service works perfectly. (i get that people don't have a data connection etc, but if you've forked out for this phone then why not!).
The device does become unbearable if you have more than a few hundred messages, I restored 2000 messages to the device and it became sluggish, this is clearly visible by the scroll bar on the right (when you load a contacts conversation). If you watch the scroll bar, it will get smaller and smaller the more messages it loads, during the loading process with hundreds of messages it is virtually impossible to use the device as it stutters and jumps around until it finishes loading the messages, which it does everytime you load that contact, regardless of if you've been into them before or not. Therefore by keeping your active messages on your device to a minimum you have a speedy and lovely interface to use.
I'm currently using the Energy 28004 rom, but i've been using the above method since Miri first started with the Touch Friendly branch of WinMo and MS released MyPhone and it's worked perfectly.

skulk3r said:
you'll notice that the WM outlook is only loading about 5-10 messages before you have to click "older" or "newer" instead of loading all the messages like how Sense 2.5 is trying to do. I believe that the windows way of doing it is better, but once again, that's something that HTC has to do.
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Yes. It is exactly what I meant.
More, I'm not talking about browsing single SMS thread. I usually communicate via SMS with about 20 people. HTC messaging dies when browsing this list - the list contains only a few people list and the last message for each of them. I really cannot understand what makes it too hard to show.

Unfortunately thats not been my experience although everyone is different or we wouldn't be here . The first screen which lists your messages is fairly quick to load once i've loaded it once. I do add it to exclusive so it doesn't close though, so it only loads once at the start. If i kill the task and start it up again it does go slow, but other than that it does appear to be fine.
I currently have 10 threads each with about 100 messages in total and i've just tested and it takes about 2 seconds to populate from first load (messaging ended via task manager) and then it's less than a second each time i load it up after that.
Are you storing your contact pictures on a storage card? (shouldn't really affect the speed as i'd guess your SD card is pretty fast). But it could be contributing if you have contact pictures. For reference mine are on the storage card.
What rom are you using? i'd suggest giving the energy rom a try if you haven't and see what you think as it is definitely the quickest i've used.

Guys,
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5024178&postcount=389
a Manila mod to "limit" the number of messages to display on a page, based on the older HTC Messaging Client as was in Manila 2.1. That's exactly what you all wish for?

Aaargh HTC Messaging AGAIN!!

Hi
Is there any Topaz ROM that does not have any of these sms bugs/problems:
1. Slowing down to a crawl while writing a long sms;
2. While writing an sms having words combine because the space bar just doesnt register or the keyboard is too laggy;
3. While writing an sms having the cursor return to the start of the message or at another line during writing a message;
4. Not being able to view, or losing the view window, when writing an sms resulting in having to re-tap the view/text writing window once or twice to see what is being written.
I have said this many times HTC messaging IS ATROCIOUS and these bugs make it downright annoying and unfunctional.
Is there any chef who has cooked with the latest 2.5 ROMS (as at Feb 2010) that has somehow fixed these problems or does HTC Messaging remain a crap app?
An annoyed Aussie
PS I have applied all the HTC SMS fix, Zenee's fix but to no avail.

it is getting better, but a perfect htc messaging is a farcry....hopeless.
btw the so-called hotfix is also useless.

Not Just Me
Thanks
At least it's not just me with these problems.
Can anyone provide us with an email address to someone of worth at HTC? I would love to let them in on these problems.
Cheers
Aussie

aussie1234 said:
Thanks
At least it's not just me with these problems.
Can anyone provide us with an email address to someone of worth at HTC? I would love to let them in on these problems.
Cheers
Aussie
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you can always google, not that will be of any help, I suspect.
ppl here said anything about (1)htc messaging is not intended to accommodate large number of texts, and/or (2)htc messaging is designed for Sense 2.1, not Sense 2.5
well, somebody somewhere is doing something about it, just have to be patient.

I believe you meant to say that htc messaging is designed for 2.5 not 2.1
It is also designed for snapdragon 1ghz processor. our processors cannot act as fast and therefore htc messaging is EXTRA slow

1xinfusion said:
I believe you meant to say that htc messaging is designed for 2.5 not 2.1
It is also designed for snapdragon 1ghz processor. our processors cannot act as fast and therefore htc messaging is EXTRA slow
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thanks for the correction.
however come to think of it, htc messaging on 2.1 is superb.
oh well.

When I use HTC messaging to create a new sms, and when I press Ok or Send,
the message will be send out, but the screen will hung....
Any other functions are OK but I can't use htc messaging anymore...still the same screen...
anybody can help?

Yeah, just disable the program, search 'zenyee disable' or 'disable htc messaging'.
Only one bug in recent ROMs that uses manila 2.5.1922 or 2.5.2010: the unread bubble doesn't dissapear after reading the message. If you don't mind not seeing the bubble at all (you have the notification icon in top-bar) this can be resolved by removing the 'sms patch.exe' from windows/start up/ directory (after installing the cab from the thread i pointed you at).
Oh and did I tell you that when used on manila 2.5.2010 the patch reverts to manila 2.1 sms messaging style?

I hope this thread becomes well known in the community for the solution to this catastrophic issue. I experience all the above mentioned problems and more, htc sense 2.5 msging is just unusable.

somebody just posted and claimed that he/she just ended the calamity surrounding htc messaging by installing the IME (touch input method or something).

I've got the same... I tried Leo IV, Prime I, new roms from NhatHoa, bysio and still big problems with sms... Now on NhatHoa I can't send sms, its still in outbox, SR doesn't help. New manila is faster than previous but msg app is just terrible. I'm going back to TESS III and Im waiting for fix for msg app
cheers

goofy3 said:
I've got the same... I tried Leo IV, Prime I, new roms from NhatHoa, bysio and still big problems with sms... Now on NhatHoa I can't send sms, its still in outbox, SR doesn't help. New manila is faster than previous but msg app is just terrible. I'm going back to TESS III and Im waiting for fix for msg app
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it's got nothng to do with the ROM, like I said. It's just the HTC Messaging on Sense 2.5 is kinda pushing it on a Topaz. You can always install Zenyee's cab to disable htc messaging, and then there's this UI to mimic a more decent cosmetic by Astronout.

Yes, I know that, I meen that new roms which are based on manila 2011 got this crappy htc messaging, so that's not working for me... Or maybe I just got something wrong Meanwhile when TESS Leo III is downloading, I try this cab, thanks
EDIT: now is working like a charm, even manila seems to be faster Thanks again So I hold on for now with reflashing

BumAround said:
it's got nothng to do with the ROM, like I said. It's just the HTC Messaging on Sense 2.5 is kinda pushing it on a Topaz. You can always install Zenyee's cab to disable htc messaging, and then there's this UI to mimic a more decent cosmetic by Astronout.
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Here are the links for the two treads that were mentioned above :
- [Tweak/App] Disabling HTC Messaging in manila 2.5 (version 1.2 Updated on 29th Sep)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
- [SKIN SMS][06 Feb 10 UPDATE!]Beautify your standard WM SMS Thread! [All Res][WM6.1+]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5439290
Enjoy !
EDIT: The nightmare is over !!!
With NhatHoa's last rom ( Rom_WWE/ITA/FRE/ESN_NhatHoa_08/02/2010_Build 21891/23529_M2.5.20113030_Drivers 2.53 ), Zenyee's cab restores the good old version of HTC messaging ! (the one from manila 2.1)
So no more sms bug and there is even no need to apply the skin from Astronout.

mastawindu said:
EDIT: The nightmare is over !!!
With NhatHoa's last rom ( Rom_WWE/ITA/FRE/ESN_NhatHoa_08/02/2010_Build 21891/23529_M2.5.20113030_Drivers 2.53 ), Zenyee's cab restores the good old version of HTC messaging ! (the one from manila 2.1)
So no more sms bug and there is even no need to apply the skin from Astronout.
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So I was like.. WAIT WHAT?!
Confirmed? For real? The 2.1 under 2.5?

hi all, when you cook a rom, just include IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_0 and a touch input(such as IME_CHS_2_1_19203826_00), then HTC messaging will be OK and works fine.

messaging agony is over?
mastawindu said:
Here are the links for the two treads that were mentioned above :
- [Tweak/App] Disabling HTC Messaging in manila 2.5 (version 1.2 Updated on 29th Sep)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
- [SKIN SMS][06 Feb 10 UPDATE!]Beautify your standard WM SMS Thread! [All Res][WM6.1+]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5439290
Enjoy !
EDIT: The nightmare is over !!!
With NhatHoa's last rom ( Rom_WWE/ITA/FRE/ESN_NhatHoa_08/02/2010_Build 21891/23529_M2.5.20113030_Drivers 2.53 ), Zenyee's cab restores the good old version of HTC messaging ! (the one from manila 2.1)
So no more sms bug and there is even no need to apply the skin from Astronout.
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The good ole version of htc messaging is actually WM Messaging ?
Michiel0211 said:
So I was like.. WAIT WHAT?!
Confirmed? For real? The 2.1 under 2.5?
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For real.
Glad the cab can be applied on recently released ROMs.
symeteor said:
hi all, when you cook a rom, just include IME_Tutorial_1_0_19222525_0 and a touch input(such as IME_CHS_2_1_19203826_00), then HTC messaging will be OK and works fine.
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Any chef (ljankok, patensas, Dutty, Nhathoa, etc) can confirm to this, please?

I personally can confirm this using Tess prime I and if you disable HTC messaging then you'll get the old messaging from 2.1 but with a little side effects such as the notification bubble in messaging tab will not disappear sometimes it won't rarely it will also time stamps might be off as well but it does work and fast at that

bokechukwu1 said:
I personally can confirm this using Tess prime I and if you disable HTC messaging then you'll get the old messaging from 2.1 but with a little side effects such as the notification bubble in messaging tab will not disappear sometimes it won't rarely it will also time stamps might be off as well but it does work and fast at that
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Which of Zenyee's cabs are you using? Which version?

so true. cant use my td2 now because of the horrific messaging bug. im using tess iv or iii i think. rom rocks, messaging sucks.

Stock 2.07.401.1 ROM trimmed to Lite

Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.

Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!

mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks

Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say

Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.

MadBeef said:
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).

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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
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For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
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Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha

Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.

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Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.

I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.

jamespaulritter said:
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!

Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?

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...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
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And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?

Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.

Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.

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Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.

P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.

I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.

Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.

Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105