I am using HTC Touch Diamond2 Topaz and I am very new to Windows Mobile world. I am just confused with what is manila/sense? Why it's required and how to download it for HTC Toudg Diamond2 model?
Sorry..if it's very basic question..?
My ROM version: 2.17.707.1 (68613) WWE.
I have updated to WM 6.5.
In Device information, i don't find the Manila version. Whether I need to download it and install.
Touchflo 3D, the user interface, is also known as Manila.
Sense is described as 'a user experience' based on Touchflo 3D. It's the 'extra' bits, that personalise the phone if you like. It's supposed to make the UI seamless and intuitive.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for your quick reply.
I don't find the manila version in my HTC Toudh Diamond2 and only ROM version. How to install manila and what is the latest version is suitable for HTC diamond 2 WM 6.5 model?
To clarify, TF3D is now known as 'Sense' in the newer versions. You have Sense 2.1. There are Sense 2.5 versions out there but to use them you would need to update your ROM to a custom one that has it built in.
Hope this is clearer.
Thanks DirkGently1.
And one more query on this.
So by default/WM 6.5 has Sense 2.1. If I want to upgrade it to Sense 2.5, i need to update the ROM, so that the softwares installed so far will be deleted. Am I right? or Sense 2.5 will be in CAB and install it and do a soft reset will do?
How/where can I see the sense version in my HTC Touch Dimaond2?
Where can get the SENSE 2.5 version? for htc offical website.. any help..on this
michealjohn said:
Thanks DirkGently1.
And one more query on this.
So by default/WM 6.5 has Sense 2.1. If I want to upgrade it to Sense 2.5, i need to update the ROM, so that the softwares installed so far will be deleted. Am I right? or Sense 2.5 will be in CAB and install it and do a soft reset will do?
How/where can I see the sense version in my HTC Touch Dimaond2?
Where can get the SENSE 2.5 version? for htc offical website.. any help..on this
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You won't see the Sense version, but the manila version will tell you if its sense 2.1 or 2.5. If you read up on both, you will see the differences and know which you are on.
There may be a cab installation of a newer manila w/Sense 2.5, however it is recommended to be cooked into the ROM, therefore flashing a custom ROM is your best option.
Make sure you thoroughly read the flashing guide and understand everything.
Ask in that thread if you have any questions about it. Its all quite simple, just make sure you HARDSPL first, or you have an expensive paperweight.
Enjoy, and I guarentee that you'll be happier than what you get out off the box with these devices.
Thanks for your help bruce.
however it is recommended to be cooked into the ROM,
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I have already upgraded the official WM 6.5 ROM for my HTC Touch Diamond2 and it has the Sense 2.1. Am I right?
PLease help to advice where can I download the WM 6.5 ROM with Sense 2.5 for my HTC Touch Diamond2.
michealjohn said:
Thanks for your help bruce.
I have already upgraded the official WM 6.5 ROM for my HTC Touch Diamond2 and it has the Sense 2.1. Am I right?
PLease help to advice where can I download the WM 6.5 ROM with Sense 2.5 for my HTC Touch Diamond2.
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Yes, sense 2.5 has been ported over from the HTC Leo. HTC has not released sense 2.5 on the TD2 AFAIK. Therefore your official stock ROMs are all 2.1.
First read the very first thread under Topaz General- "flashing giuide- start here" thanks to Drag-on.
This will tell you about HOW to flash and all of the necessary steps.
To find a cooked ROM, go to the ROM developement section. Most threads there are ROM threads by various chefs. Even though it may be hundreds of pages in length, it is very impotant to read the first 5 posts which are usually bug reports and fixes, etc. the read at least the last 5 paged of posts to see what the current bugs are.
I am quite pleased with the ROM listed in my signature (which is a clickable link), that is a WM6.5 w/ Sense 2.1.
Hope this helps. Happy flashing.
here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585457
hope that helps (in there, there is another link which will take you to your first flashing steps)
I have a question... if you don´t know what is manila, Why do you want to upgrade?
Bruce Inman/Drag-On,
Thanks for your reply and I will try with the cooked ROM.
onomico,
I have a question... if you don´t know what is manila, Why do you want to upgrade?
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I am using the Windows Mobile for the first time and using it for about 1 month. I am jsut learning on how to improvise my phone look and feel and performance..any new application to try it out.
By going thru' the beginners guide, I got some idea but still want to confirm it what I thinking is right/wrong? Anyway, some of the users from this thread are helping me by answering queries. Gradually, I will know all the technical terminology and will rock with the cooked rom.
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Hi Guys,
Being reading this forum for a long time but am still a bit stuck.
Am using HTC Touch ViVa (HTC Opena/HTC T2223) currently with its original WM6.1.
1) I plan to flash to WM6.5 but am totaly confused as to which is the completely working version. Is it V13 or V16 or should I wait for V17?
2) What basically is Manila2D/Manila3D? Which version does Opal has & which would you recommend to install?
3) Can all the themes listed in the "development & hacking" be installed on Opal after/without flashing?
thanks for the replies ppl
recomandation
Hi first I change my rom with 6.5 v16, now I'm looking for a wm 6.1 original rom and I can't find one. My advice is to stick with your wm original rom version. If you can make a copy of it please post the rom on the site i will be very happy if you can do that.
Hi,
Congratulations on your Viva, hope it's working well for you.
1) I'm not into beta flashing, and AFAIK the WM6.5 version is a hacked beta version of the OS, so I don't recommend installing it. Maybe if we wait for the original version to be released by MS, HTC will offer it as a free upgrade.
2) Manila 2D (the one that comes with the Viva) uses tabs instead of a 3D cube (used in Manila 3D on other devices).
M2D is basically a simpler and faster version of M3D, which suits the slower processor of the Viva.
3) I know they can be installed on the original ROM, you should first install and download the M2D Customizer. This program will enable you to skin the M2D on your device, and tweak some of its settings. WM6.5 requires another form of skins, so I think the skins in Development and Hacking are not compatible.
Hope this helps.
Good luck!
thx guys...well I don't suppose the HTC would give away a free upgrade to WM6.5 as they said in engadgets...
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Hi,
Congratulations on your Viva, hope it's working well for you.
1) I'm not into beta flashing, and AFAIK the WM6.5 version is a hacked beta version of the OS, so I don't recommend installing it. Maybe if we wait for the original version to be released by MS, HTC will offer it as a free upgrade.
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I now that HTC will release an official upgrade to wm6.5 only for HTC Diamond 2 and HTC Touch Pro 2, do you know if also for viva?
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I now that HTC will release an official upgrade to wm6.5 only for HTC Diamond 2 and HTC Touch Pro 2, do you know if also for viva?
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i read that there would be no upgrades, WM6.5 wud b shipped out with new phones only
Your ROM
Can you make a copy of your original ROM and post it?
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I now that HTC will release an official upgrade to wm6.5 only for HTC Diamond 2 and HTC Touch Pro 2, do you know if also for viva?
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I'm not sure about anything, I was just speculating.
Upgrade or hacked, I'm not installing any WM 6.5 ROM until it is officially released by Microsoft.
GFX said:
I'm not sure about anything, I was just speculating.
Upgrade or hacked, I'm not installing any WM 6.5 ROM until it is officially released by Microsoft.
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I undestand. Do you now when is scheduled the official release from Microsoft? I didn't found anything about a date..
Maybe sometime in the 3rd quarter, as stated in the following article:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2009/04/22/microsoft-windows-mobile-65-release-date-may-not-likely/
Hello everyone in the Blackstone thread.
Since I bought my Touch HD I always wanted the defice to perform as best as possible. During the last year I have tried many many ROMs and I have to say - none was bugfree (found one almost perfect - for me . Some bugs could be easily left forgotten as these weren't anyhow cruical.
But some were just heavily noticeable. These were from the WM6.5 world - generally.
After starting to look on the stability and performace, I have realized WM6.1 is still the best system for Touch HD - very fast, no unneeded options, great response.
I am looking right now for the latest WM6.1 ROM with latest HTC Sense 2.1. Or preferably for someone who is still cooking in WM6.1 world for Touch HD. Unfortunately I cannot find one (Dutty's v4.3 FINAL is a little bit outdated, and that's the latest one I have found ;/ ).
Anyone knows about such person?
If not I am going to try my best to cook such ROM, so I would appreciate any comments if there would be anyone interested and/or anyone willing to help me to reach the point. I am avaliable to spend as much time as possible to get this done.
Please leave a comment if you find this interesting for you.
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i know raptordin is doing that
w6.1 whit sense2.1
he said he is almost finished
so wait a little more he will post his rom
Look at the Topix thread, Kwbr has been cooking 6.1 roms for quite some time. His 3.1.2 rom is supposedly bugfree!
I'm not sure if he's gonna update it anytime soon though.
I have to agree after months of rom flashing with manila 2.5. wm6.5 and 6.5.1...I did an official rom flash and had a play with the old 6.1 and wow it was fast and highly responsive.
so yes I would also be interested in a 6.1 kitchen with manila 2.1
where do we find one
btw almost forgot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
it is discontineud and dont know where it is to the things from now but its 6.1 whit sense2.5
its sayd its usable for every day you could always test till the 6.1 whit 2.1 is out
Sorry, don't want Sense 2.5 (very slow on HD), only 2.1 - it's enough for me.
But thanks for recommendation
i think the final version of topix wm6.1 is what youre looking for.
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Look at the Topix thread, Kwbr has been cooking 6.1 roms for quite some time. His 3.1.2 rom is supposedly bugfree!
I'm not sure if he's gonna update it anytime soon though.
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Sorry but KWBR will not be updating his 6.1 version anymore he has moved to 6.5 and has sold his HD.
I constantly keep coming back to this KWBR 3.1.2 rom
So fast, so reliable and so much more suited to our Touch HD's
I can simply use my device as it was intended, quickly take a picture, quickly review it, phone works, sms sends, review ballistically fast, all software just runs, soft reset is extremely fast, wifi connects without fail, background all tabs is simple, loads of themes....
But occasionally I miss the glossy Manila 2.5 with all its fluffy weather animations, but not a lot
If I could find a Kitchen for the latest 6.1 I would start learning to chef myself
here is a kitchen with WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561056
unfortunately (for you) it's in ITA
Look on my signature...
Which kitchen?
OK, it seems I am going to build my own ROM. I would like to try to use some cooked ROMs as the base and continue from this point. Anyone knows how to proceed?
I have downloaded few kitchens already (jCEspi's, Ervius, osKitchen, PPCkitchen...) but having problems to use them properly. I haven't found any detailed howto yet, only some basics from the thread or attached readme files. So far "try-fail" style doesn't get me anywhere.
I would appreciate any help with some good howtos.
Thanks,
Gabriel
This might help
gabriel31337 said:
OK, it seems I am going to build my own ROM. I would like to try to use some cooked ROMs as the base and continue from this point. Anyone knows how to proceed?
I have downloaded few kitchens already (jCEspi's, Ervius, osKitchen, PPCkitchen...) but having problems to use them properly. I haven't found any detailed howto yet, only some basics from the thread or attached readme files. So far "try-fail" style doesn't get me anywhere.
I would appreciate any help with some good howtos.
Thanks,
Gabriel
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Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469399
It maybe of help in getting started. Not sure if it contains a 6.1 Kitchen but Kwbr has compiled what would appear to be a great tutorial on how to cook.
kwbr tutorial isn't needed.
Basically all that is needed to cook - decompile ROM and compile it back (imgfstools, search in dev&hhack).
Kitchens is sometimes more pain than help for novice cook.
Cool, will get through these, thanks.
Hi there!
I was just offered a Trinity, so I came here looking for information on how to update it. I already read a lot of things and managed to install the latest Radio and tried some custom ROMs, no problems whatsoever.
However, I still have some questions I can't find answers for:
1 - Why use a custom ROM? Isn't it possible to use the original WM and then install only what you want?
2 - If it is, where can I find a ROM with the original WM6.1 and 6.5?
3 - If not, what is the least modified ROM I can get with 6.1 and 6.5? Or at least some ROM with only the basics.
4 - Is TouchFlo the same as Manilla? I've seen both words but I don't know the differences.
Thanks in advance!
bockyPT said:
Hi there!
I was just offered a Trinity, so I came here looking for information on how to update it. I already read a lot of things and managed to install the latest Radio and tried some custom ROMs, no problems whatsoever.
However, I still have some questions I can't find answers for:
1 - Why use a custom ROM? Isn't it possible to use the original WM and then install only what you want?
2 - If it is, where can I find a ROM with the original WM6.1 and 6.5?
3 - If not, what is the least modified ROM I can get with 6.1 and 6.5? Or at least some ROM with only the basics.
4 - Is TouchFlo the same as Manilla? I've seen both words but I don't know the differences.
Thanks in advance!
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1. Flashing Custom ROM is faster then installing a whole package like with manila2d.
2. No, trinity only ship with original 6.0 ROM.
3. If you want 6.1 ot 6.5, flash an Ultralite ROM or cook your own. For p3600i 6.1 - try this
p3600i 6.5 try this
If you have the original p3600. Check the Trinity Upgrade Article in the wiki. Remember Lite ROM.
4.TouchFLO is the original that is shipped with the Elf/in
Kaiser etc... Manila is TouchFLO3D and it is bundled with the Diamond and Pro. And Manila2D a slimmed version of TF3D that is used in the Viva and 3G and can be installed in most WM phones.
Maybe I'm the only person ever to ask this seems how a search brings up everything but, I would like sense 2.5 but i dont want all the other stuff that is different about the roms that people cook. Has anyone cooked a rom that the only difference from their cooked rom and the OEM rom is that it has sense 2.5? This is what I'm looking for can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks,
Luke
Oh yeah the type of OEM like rom I'm looking for is for ATT tilt 2, Yes I want the ATT bloatware that comes with it.
HTC have some official ROMs with Sense 2.5 I believe, though that won't have the AT&T stuff obviously.
sense 2.5 requires alot of new dependency pkgs, so just replacing say att 2.1 manila with 2.5 doesnt work. htc has released official rhodium roms with sense 2.5, just do a search for rhodium 2.07 europe or check the wiki. also you can learn how to cook your own rom, if you are interested go over to Chef Central and do some reading if you have any questions we will try to help you all we can.
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Hello people! I wish to install a Windows Mobile 6.5 rom on my HD. But have failed to find any stock ROM for the HD. i want to install only stock. Has there never been a release of WM 6.5 by HTC for the HD? Will there ever be?
Im sorry if Im repeating a pre existent thread but trust me I did use the search feature and didnt find a thread talking about this particular issue.
Experts please help. THANKS heavily in advance.
No Stock WM6.5 for HD
anand12 said:
Hello people! I wish to install a Windows Mobile 6.5 rom on my HD. But have failed to find any stock ROM for the HD. i want to install only stock. Has there never been a release of WM 6.5 by HTC for the HD? Will there ever be?
Im sorry if Im repeating a pre existent thread but trust me I did use the search feature and didnt find a thread talking about this particular issue.
Experts please help. THANKS heavily in advance.
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There's no Stock WM6.5 for Touch HD. WM6.5 ROM in this xda is non official ROM. if you want stock ROM, please install WM6.1 for HD. it is official released by HTC
That is sad. But then if I have to install a custom 6.5 rom, wont that make my device unstable? Would it make it slower than now? Custom roms arent stable enough is what I know.
anand12 said:
That is sad. But then if I have to install a custom 6.5 rom, wont that make my device unstable? Would it make it slower than now? Custom roms arent stable enough is what I know.
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it's not a stability problem!
even WM 6.1 custom non official ROMs are stabler and speeder than WM 6.5 ones...
it's a kernel problem!!
The one used in WM 6.5 custom ROMs is unofficial...and not made by HTC...and that's what made WM 6.5 a little bit slower than WM 6.1...
but (expecially COM2 builds) are stable as well as WM 6.1...just slower (not dued to cooker inexperience but) because HTC didn't develop a 6.5 kernel for our blackstone...
Thanks Kenia for this wonderful rom uv made. I am going through your forum pages currently reading about your rom. It really is awesome work!
By the way, is there a way to install titanium screen and WM 6.5 lock screen on top of stock 6.1 rom?
nope, for titanium and the new lockscreen you will have to install WM 6.5.
There might be some WM 6.5 lockscreen look-a-likes for WM 6.1, but as far as i know it's not possible to have titanium on wm 6.1. Technically it is possible, but a lot of things would have to be modded (which is a looooooot of work) in order to get it to work on WM 6.1
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nope, for titanium and the new lockscreen you will have to install WM 6.5.
There might be some WM 6.5 lockscreen look-a-likes for WM 6.1, but as far as i know it's not possible to have titanium on wm 6.1. Technically it is possible, but a lot of things would have to be modded (which is a looooooot of work) in order to get it to work on WM 6.1
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Titanium requires some stuff from system core of WM 6.5...just like the honeycomb start menu...
so it's impossible to port it...
as regards the lockscreen you can have it through the marvelous Co0kie's Home Tab which ebodies this feature...
and you can choose between WM 6.5, HD Mini and iphone-like lockscreen...
Anyway thanks to all for the compliments..
anand12 said:
Hello people! I wish to install a Windows Mobile 6.5 rom on my HD. But have failed to find any stock ROM for the HD. i want to install only stock. Has there never been a release of WM 6.5 by HTC for the HD? Will there ever be?
Im sorry if Im repeating a pre existent thread but trust me I did use the search feature and didnt find a thread talking about this particular issue.
Experts please help. THANKS heavily in advance.
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I got the perfect thing for you
You should try Miniterrors Ravage ROM it's in dutch or in WWE.
It is the fastest STOCK 6.5 rom out here on XDA.
You should download the WWE Clean without (or with) HTC Messaging.
It's fast, low battery drainage and it is stock!
Hope it helps!
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633360
WOW!
This looks terrific! But is this rom going to work stable and fast on the HD? Can someone help me more with this please?
Flash First for Your Experience
anand12 said:
This looks terrific! But is this rom going to work stable and fast on the HD? Can someone help me more with this please?
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please flash first n let us know the feedback. you cannot ask anybody to act on behalf of you. different person, different opinion. try Cloudy 1.9 with or without HTC Messaging... it works perfect for me.
I never presumed anyone to act on my behalf. Because I am only asking for opinions from experts who have run it before on their Blackstones. I have never flashed a custom rom hence probably just a little apprehensive.
anand12 said:
I never presumed anyone to act on my behalf. Because I am only asking for opinions from experts who have run it before on their Blackstones. I have never flashed a custom rom hence probably just a little apprehensive.
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Sorry if i misunderstood you. first time i flashed cooked rom was, i use Blackstonehenge ROM. in that page, the chef include the thread for first timer such us how to flash cooked rom. i follow the steps n finally i success. please look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
read carefully. dont brick your HD. i do this thing several times before success.
anand12 said:
I never presumed anyone to act on my behalf. Because I am only asking for opinions from experts who have run it before on their Blackstones. I have never flashed a custom rom hence probably just a little apprehensive.
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There are a lots of roms here, the best way to find what you want its to try, use another phone and take a week to try the diferent roms around here.
If we all like the same, we didn't have a lot of roms around here, see what roms have good feedback, see if you like the style or the coocked app in it and flash.
A stable coocked rom its allways better then stock.