I am going to soon install the Hero Rom but I have a question about updating it...I would like to have a lot of apps on my Ext partition so it would be problematic to keep wiping it and lots of trouble to keep all my music and photos as well...so since I would have a different SD card partitioned with all my stuff...would it be possible to take that sd card out...and use the stock sd card to update the Hero ROM's on my phone...like just having the update on that card, wiping and flashing and then putting in my partitioned card with all my apps and music... would that work..that way updating is as simple as switching sd cards to keep all my stuff???
Sorry for the long paragraph but if this works this will make me want to flash ROM updates more often.
Wiping doesn't effect your SD card, other then it breaks alot of apps. Your best bet is to reinstall ALL apps after a wipe so that way they don't FC. Putting the update on the SD card is easy and won't effect it, all your music should be there after a wipe from recovery.
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Wiping doesn't effect your SD card, other then it breaks alot of apps. Your best bet is to reinstall ALL apps after a wipe so that way they don't FC. Putting the update on the SD card is easy and won't effect it, all your music should be there after a wipe from recovery.
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ummm...i had reset my phone before when something wasnt working right and the problem was fixed...no root then. but music and photos were wiped out...it took me forever to download my 80 apps... and i saw on some thread here that if you use apps2Sd then you have to wipe the partition as well...and since I still will have the stock sd I mighters well use it...so I just want to know if everything will work if I switch Sd cards like that.
Noobyflasher said:
I am going to soon install the Hero Rom but I have a question about updating it...I would like to have a lot of apps on my Ext partition so it would be problematic to keep wiping it and lots of trouble to keep all my music and photos as well...so since I would have a different SD card partitioned with all my stuff...would it be possible to take that sd card out...and use the stock sd card to update the Hero ROM's on my phone...like just having the update on that card, wiping and flashing and then putting in my partitioned card with all my apps and music... would that work..that way updating is as simple as switching sd cards to keep all my stuff???
Sorry for the long paragraph but if this works this will make me want to flash ROM updates more often.
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you dont have to wipe the ext all the time UNLESS you are goin to a different hero rom. i.e jachero to drizzy hero. i had to wipe my ext whenever i went to drizzy becuz i encountered a boot loop.
and whenever i do flash a new rom i always create a new folder on my desk top titled "g1 files (whatever date it is)" to create a back up my files just in case. and since swap recudes the sd card life its always best to create back up on the conmputer
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you dont have to wipe the ext all the time UNLESS you are goin to a different hero rom. i.e jachero to drizzy hero. i had to wipe my ext whenever i went to drizzy becuz i encountered a boot loop.
and whenever i do flash a new rom i always create a new folder on my desk top titled "g1 files (whatever date it is)" to create a back up my files just in case. and since swap recudes the sd card life its always best to create back up on the conmputer
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well Im going to go with latest drizzy for now and also I heard you dont really need swapper because with apps 2 sd its finallly fast enough...I am not going to update or flash much because i cant get internet on my phone for more than a couple of days...maybe Idk...but if this sd card switch method works i dont need to put my stuff on the computer at all...so someone please answer....will it work and keep all my files?
sup everybody
yo i just got a class 6 8gb microsdhc card i was happy nstuff getting ready to set it up for my g1(use to have a 4gb card)
and i formated it with all the partitions etc.
i put my backup of my fat32 partition on my new card
and i was getting ready to flash and going through the procedures of wipe/repair/flash
but when repairing my ext filesystems
it gives me an error no matter what i do saying that it cant mount the sdcard period!!! so i took off my backup of my fat thinking that it was effecting it, and it wasnt. Giving me the same error
so what am i missing here???
what do i do to get my g1 running again
what am i doing wrong
try to re-partition your card again. (also its freke)
im repartiton again
lol i can always rely you david to come on in and help a n*gga out
Don't wipe. Use switchrom.sh (see sig) on your 4GB and just restore to your 8GB. No wipe and good as new in minutes.
well fcuk i wiped but i though i remember devsk saying if you reformat the system sd then you cant restore with switchrom becuase it only stores the app and app private data or something like that correct me if im wrong?
yo wait i repartitioned and i got a switchrom back up!!!yes
but ithought it runs off the system sd which i dont have acess to
idk ill figure it out if i need help ill re reply
you can't restore it bc you won't have the switchrom.sh on your ext3 just put it back on and then restore. the dalvik-cache gets recreated each boot.
fkuc yes i did it
i found out you can do it throught the sdcard instead of the system/sd
dam i love everyone there so creative lol
ok thnxs guys and later david : P
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fkuc yes i did it
i found out you can do it throught the sdcard instead of the system/sd
dam i love everyone there so creative lol
ok thnxs guys and later david : P
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switchrom.sh is the best thing you can do for your Android device. Period! I flash like crazy now. I've tried just about every ROM there is and when I'm done, I switchrom back to my usual setup. I even swap SD cards when I feel like it. It's awesome.
Im thinking about rerooting my g1 from scratch but wad wondering once thats done if I transfer my ext backup from bart and to a restore that all my ext info would be there.....I'm trying to avoid downloading all my apps again
I've never done this, but I'd say, most likely, yes. You don't even have to go through the trouble with BART, really. Just backup everything from your ext partition to a computer or something, and re-root. You probably won't even have to restore--if you're using a stable build like cyanogen, and you don't wipe your ext, it should still all be there the first time you boot to cyanogen and tap the green Android to begin setup.
I would still do a backup first, though, in case you have fc's and have to wipe ext. If that's the case, then after setup and all, just drop the files you backed up back onto your ext partition, reboot, and voila, your apps are back. Oh, how I love A2SD!
Or you can BART. Especially if you're on Windows, which doesn't recognize ext. Whatever floats your boat, though.
Hey,
I have decided to give CyanogenMod a go for the first time.
I've been rooted for some time now - running a stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 rooted.
I've heard so many good things about CyanogenMod and I have had an itch for a bit of a change, that I decided now is a good time to give it a try.
I was hoping you guys might be able to help me clarify a few things first though.
I have Link2SD installed and setup. I have linked a couple of apps using and I was wondering if anyone knows how it works with Titanium Backup?
What I was hoping to be able to do was:
Code:
1)
Make a back up of some of my apps + their data using Titanium Backup - Some of these apps have been moved using Link2SD
2)
Install ClockworkMod Recovery and make a full nandroid backup.
3)
Make a backup of all the contents on my SD card - from the fat32 partition primarily.
4)
Install CyanongenMod using ROM Manager
5)
Redo the ext2 partition on my SD card and reinstall Link2SD once CyanogenMod has been installed
6)
Reinstall Titanium Backup and restore all the apps I backed up.
I was hoping that by doing the above I could hang onto all the custom settings I have in some of the apps.
For the apps that have been linked using Link2SD, will Titanium backup restore them properly as long as that ext2 partition on the SD card is there?? Or am I going to run into issues?
I have done some searching on these forums but there seems to be no clear cut answer.
Any help or advice would greatly be appreciated!
Thank you
You'll be fine - just make a full Titanium backup and a nandroid (just in case).
Do a full wipe, install CM with gapps, install your apps2sd, then restore your Titanium backup...
Titanium Backup will just restore the apps to the /data partition (or the ext if you have app2sdext enabled), but since link2sd is setting up individual symlinks for each app, those probably won't be carried over when you restore with Titanium Backup. You will have to redo those apps. But this may be time to look into a full app2sdext option. It is much simpler than link2sd and there aren't any noticeable performance hits (unless you do data2sd).
Good catch bass - I missed the Link2SD detail!
@danger-rat @bassmadrigal
Thank you guys for giving me some advice.. it is much appreciated!
So the app2sdext option can be done using dark tremor?
I was looking at dark tremor previously when I was trying to decide what method to use to relink apps.
Do you guys know of a good tutorial to go about setting it up? Is it done pre install of Cyanogen? Or post install?
My other concern about moving apps to the SD card using methods like link2sd and dark tremor is recently I had a situation where my ext2 partitions filesystem actually became corrupted. I ended up having to a 'fsck' on it to repair it ( I am pretty sure I got lucky with that ). Using the app2sdext do I still have the options to decide what I move to my SD card?
You can use Darktremor or S2E as the popular methods. S2E is a bit more intuitive (its an app in the market, with a front end GUI).
Install after you've installed CM.
As far as corrupt cards, just make sure you backup from time to time. Titanium or nandroid should do the trick. The advantage of having an ext partition is that once you have the partition, you can reformat it without losing your regular SD partition...
i would also recommend S2E, recently went from dt to
s2e and its working great.
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I remember seeing you mention s2e once before! At the time though I couldn't use it since I wasn't running CyanogenMod
That sounds like a good plan.
What do you think of this
Code:
1)
Do a Titanium Backup of my apps+their data
(including ones that have been moved using link2sd)
2)
When I install CyanogenMod, setup and install s2e
3)
Install Titanium Backup and start recovering my apps.
Since Titanium Backup should restore apps linked via
link2sd back to the default /data directory, I should just
be able to relink them using the s2e method?
I was wondering something else to actually.
@danger-rat you have mentioned in the past that you do not like the most recent version of the ClockworkMod recovery due to stability and reliability issues (I have seen a few other people say this as well). If this is still the case, can you recommend a version to install? From Rom Manager itself, can you choose a different version of ClockworkMod recovery to install?
Sorry for all the questions!
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Just after I posted this I noticed there is an option in Rom Manager "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" - It looks like this option will allow me to install older version of ClockworkMod?
I use CWM 2.5.1.4 and install via ROM Manager, just as you suggested...
Thank you sir for suggesting a version and confirming I can do it via ROM manager.
Hopefully I can try this in the next couple days. Will report back success/epic failures!
Thank you baseballfanz as well!
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Why posting a question in general section???
Thread moved.
hey sorry I wanted to ask one more question...
Since I plan on implementing s2e I will have to reformat my ext2 partition to ext3 or 4 (I think it said ext4..)
My question is, what should I do with my fat32 partition?
After I backup all the data on it, should I reformat it as well? Then after I get CyanogenMod installed, move back only what is important - Titanium backup directory for example? Or copy everything that was on it. There will probably be a lot of useless/old files on there that aren't really useful.
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Sorry Mr.Clown for posting in wrong section.. I'll post correctly next time!
i went from dt a2sd to s2e with no need to redo anything on my sd card. i had ext4 already.
if you use amon ra you can change ext 2 to ext 3 or ext 4.
Sorry, I was gone all day and away from a computer. Glad others chimed in. But to start, S2E and DarkTremor's a2sd both are not selective on which apps are installed to the sdcard. It is an all or nothing approach. That is the difference between app2sdext and link2sd. With S2E, you just install it and open the app. Select the checkboxes to move apps to the sdcard and then I recommend moving the dalvik cache as well (as it takes a lot of space). Reboot, and any apps you install/restore will be automagically put on the sdext partition.
And to answer your last question, if you already have an ext partition on your card, there is no reason to change it. It may say ext 3 or 4 is needed, but I am running ext2 on mine without any issues (I have been too lazy to take the time to change it). Just make sure the ext partition is wiped (which can be done in recovery under Mounts and Storage). The fat32 can be wiped, but it isn't necessary. Although, if it has been awhile, you may want to consider it, just to get rid of some of the stupid folders that devs can't figure out how to keep them out of the root of the card.
@bassmadrigal
thanks for the response man!
All or nothing eh? I will give it a try and hope for the best! At least then I will have more flexibility in the amount of apps that I can have!
I think I will just reformat the entire card since it has been a while. There is so much stuff on the card now I don't really know what is what anymore. I will keep a back up of it though juuuust in case.
I think the ext2 partition might have some files left over from link2sd so I think I might wipe it out as well and start again.
I have since removed all the apps I moved using link2sd just to calm my nerves a little bit (ha!).
I am currently trying to purchase titanium backup but it looks like maybe the market is having issues. It is stuck on "Authorizing purchase..." seems like a few people have had this.
In the mean time I will install the recovery image and do a nandroid backup!
Just as an FYI, if you redo your partitions (ie repartitioning your sdcard through the recovery), that will erase and format both partitions. I think by default, clockworkmod will do an ext2 partition, whereas Amon_RA gives you the option between ext3 and ext4. One thing to keep in mind, in the past, with ClockworkMod v3.x, it had been known to cause issues with partitioning cards. I don't know if that has been fixed in the v5.x, but I know it doesn't exist in v2.x and it also works properly in Amon_RA.
All or nothing really isn't a bad approach. I have a class 4 32GB Sandisk, and I don't seem to have any speed problems. Then, with some of the apps that have a large amount of data, I will move those individually with Titanium Backup. Two big ones are Google Earth (16MB of frickin data), and Firefox (I don't remember how much, but it is still a large amount). But I had to move those because I was running out of room in my internal memory (I have a lot of apps installed).
I was actually just about to update this thread!
I have been busy since my last post!
I have since installed clockworkmod recovery, done my backups, installed cyanogenmod, and am just in the process of going through it.
I FINALLY got titanium backup pro key to install.. I think there must have been something wrong between google and the titanium backup app, but after like 2 hours of trying it finally went through!
I think I am okay with the "All or nothing approach" as well. I know now that I need to start to take backups WAY more serious! So if I ever run into a situation where my ext partition dies, I won't be devastated!
I think what I will end up doing is reformatting it all tomorrow at work. I will turn the phone off, remove SD card, format using a Linux system at work, place card back in and go from there.
To restore my ROM Manager backup and my Titanium Backups I just have to copy those folders back to the SD card (after the format) from the backup I made of the SD card prior to formatting it (sorry if I am sounding repetitive, I can't tell if what I am saying will make sense to anyone other then myself lol + plus I am EXHAUSTED!)
That's awesome though its working for you. I have a class 10 8 gig kingston SDcard and so far its been great!
So when I setup s2e (I have it installed, but not configured!) I should select the check boxes "Applications, Private apps, and Dalvic Cache"?
You mentioned that you use Titanium Backup to move certain apps like Google Earth... I was just wondering in what direction you were moving them? From the phone to the SDcard, or from the SDcard to the phone? Sorry for probably another really stupid question I just wanted to make sure I was following you correctly!
Thank you again for all your help though. Things have gone smoothly so far
In S2E move applications, private apps, dalvik cache and optional too download cache.
As for moving data to sd card individually by Titanium, you are moving the data from internal memory to sd card
Yes, all you need to do is copy those folders back, but if you restore any of your nandroid backups, you will reset everything in your system back to the time before you installed S2E. So, I would only do that as a last resort. But, Titanium Backup does not have that limitation. It is just restoring the data to whatever the system is setup to do.
Once you do get everything up and running properly, it would be beneficial to do a nandroid. But as far as a lot of backups, you can set TB to run on a schedule to back up your phone every so often while you are asleep. And then, I just make sure I do a nandroid before I flash ANYTHING.
And ditto for what baseballfanz said. I never bothered with the download cache, as that is stored on a different partition within the phone (the /cache partition). Unless you resize all your partitions, it is probably pointless to move it. And yes, I am moving the data (ie the saved games/settings etc) for the app to the sdext partition with Titanium Backup, but you probably won't need to do this for a while (I have 213 user apps installed according to TB).
@bassmadrigal and @baseballfanz
Thanks guys for all your advice!
Sorry for the million's of question, I'm learning a lot from you guys though!
So.. Cheers!
Nandroid is similar to Acronis (imaging software) for PC so I definitely follow you when you say that restoring an Nandroid backup will erase anything I have done since doing that particular backup.
Good to know that moving those folders back onto the SDcard is all I have to do so now reformatting the card isn't as scary! Oh and I have to make sure I grab the Titanium Backup License file - Sorry I just read this is the old method!
I will definitely take your advice and produce a Nandroid backup once everything is up and running just in case! I have been thinking about it and I figured I could automate a backup of the Titanium Backup folder and the clockworkmod folder by using the rSync app. I could just copy everything to my NAS during the night, which would ensure I have two physical copies just incase my SD card decides to dead.
thanks for clarifying the direction of the data being moved using titanium backup. I figured it was that but wanted to be sure. I still have a lot of learning to do with that app to get fully familiar with it!
I'll be setting up my two new partition today and hopefully I can start restoring apps later this afternoon. Will report back my status.
Thanks again for the help!
cheers
Hey Guys. I have a rooted Nexus One running CyanogenMod 7.2.0-RC0-N1-KANG. Sometime back I had my SD card connected to my PC via a memory card reader. I was deleting a video file but while the file was being deleted, my SD card got unmounted. I have no idea as to what happened but now it looks like I have considerable part of that space lost.
I did scan my SD card using Windows disk check but it found no errors. Now I am thinking of formatting my SD card. I have a 1 GB EXT3 partitioned 16 GB Sandisk SD card. Most of my apps are installed on the SD card. Which is the best way to format my SD card? Also I do have Rom Manager & Titanium Backup installed. How can I ensure that I back up all my data and do an easy restore? Alternately is there any way I can recover the lost space without formatting?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
there are some programs out there to retrieve lost disk data--i have not used any but a search may help
i bu all sdcard to pc then reformat with sdformatter with full erase and size adj ON, then repartition inside phone--0 swap
nandroid first
Thanks for replying rugmankc. Do you have a direct link to sdformatter? Also do you use rom manager for the partitioning? In case if I do backup my entire rom and then format my sd card, can I simply restore everything by loading up the backup? Can you give me some simple step by step procedure of backup & format? Thanks again for your help.
Sd formatter: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/eula_windows
Nandroid backup
Backup to pc
Format sd card
Create partition (either wid pc or in recovery)
Copyback to sd card
PS: hv read ppl complaining abt rom manager aka cwm creating bad partitions.
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Hey n1newbie. Thanks a lot for your reply. Sorry for being noobish but which is the best way to make a Nandroid backup and how can I partition with PC and recovery? Also once I copy back the backup on to my sd card, how do I restore the backup?
sorry for my late reply--nite here
i use this one--but shouldn't matter--just make sure you use full erase on and size adj on--you want complete format, not partial as phone does
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28338566/SDFormatter 2.0.mht
the steps n1newbie gave you are good ones
i use amonra so don't know cwr steps
the partition steps are done inside phone for me, as i mentioned, thru recovery and should be straight forward, including steps to bu and restore
there is no best way to nandroid an that term/folder won't be seen in cwr, just cw backups. the options should all be there in cw or rom mgr, including restore
i bu sdcard regularly and titanium too
Hi y2jamit, its a pleasure to help u
Choosing recovery is ur preference (clockworkmod,amonra,4ext)
As rugmankc said, Making a nandroid backup and restoring is done via recovery mode and is jus straight forward. Remember to use the same recovery for safer side
To format in PC try any partition tools (mini tool parition wizard )
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rugmankc & n1newbie, I really appreciate your help guys. Thank for making this so much more easier. I guess I now have the confidence to take the plunge
good luck
just read a lot on whatever you do so you have a good idea on it and then you can ask specific questions on the process--
ICS is still alpha so fairly unstable for a lot