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Iphone os on the hd??

any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!

s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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THIS WAS FAKE.
Google more next time :$

reminds me of the good old times when linux was announced to run on the P3300 / artemis - at first everybogy dumped it for a hoax, a couple of weeks later a bootable and usable version was on my machine - mind you, telephone not working...

Iphone OS is possible on Touch HD i think
hi Guys
i think this is a great idea and i dont think it is impossible..might just be a lot of work though.. wish i could help do it.. have friends with iphone and would luv to port it to my touch HD.
heres my ideas.
in essence Iphone OS is linux .. correct? unless immistaken it has its roots in Linux and we already have Android running on a touch HD what would be the difference in the code between Android and iphone OS.. can someone perhaps look into this
i would luv to get some feedback from other users see if it is possible..
thank you
s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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I hope you are all joking, right? Why would you want to poison such a beautiful device like that?

cRaCKwHoRe said:
I hope you are all joking, right? Why would you want to poison such a beautiful device like that?
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why would you want to dumb down winMo is the question. The iphone hardware is so bad that if you're going windows mobile you should buy an HD or something with decent hardware.

Iphone os on the hd??
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It must be a joke.... bwhahahaha
if not:
When God was handing out brains you must have thought it was chocolate milk shake and asked for an extra thick one

This would be just as useful as ice in the Antarctic. Just buy an Iphone, if you want to have its os, as the devices are quite similiar (at least the dimensions).

HTC TRouch HD vs iPhone
I think it would be a good idea. Imagine ending the eternal "my phone is best" -battle showing the capabilities of the touch hd!
Come on guys!

TouchHD-za said:
hi Guys
i think this is a great idea and i dont think it is impossible..might just be a lot of work though.. wish i could help do it.. have friends with iphone and would luv to port it to my touch HD.
heres my ideas.
in essence Iphone OS is linux .. correct? unless immistaken it has its roots in Linux and we already have Android running on a touch HD what would be the difference in the code between Android and iphone OS.. can someone perhaps look into this
i would luv to get some feedback from other users see if it is possible..
thank you
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Apple base OSX on FreeBSD so I'm guessing the Iphone os is too

shruff said:
It must be a joke.... bwhahahaha
if not:
When God was handing out brains you must have thought it was chocolate milk shake and asked for an extra thick one
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hahah agree!!
if you want IPHONE look/OS please buy that cheap phone! the only good think in iphone is the interface and the music player

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!
his is the biggest bull**** I have heard what
why buy HD if you like the iPhone?
otherwise buys iPhone and keeps the HD, as you can make its
a switch between the two ....

Best allround solution I think:
Don't 'copy', 'clone' or 'port' the OS X as a whole. Instead, take aspects of it say ... I dunno ... user-friendliness and adapt it into what Windows Mobile does best. So instead of using a dead ugly IE 6 checkbox on your application (it's depressing to see when I'm using manilla or 6.5 today) use a nice image or bloody skin the thing.
Apple has always had it's sex-appeal over Windows (objectively speaking) BUT Windows has always found a way to kick it were it hurts and still impress. Sadly I don't think the mobile war is moving quick enough on out end so lets give them a helping hand rather than jump ship!

O and O said:
Best allround solution I think:
Don't 'copy', 'clone' or 'port' the OS X as a whole. Instead, take aspects of it say ... I dunno ... user-friendliness and adapt it into what Windows Mobile does best. So instead of using a dead ugly IE 6 checkbox on your application (it's depressing to see when I'm using manilla or 6.5 today) use a nice image or bloody skin the thing.
Apple has always had it's sex-appeal over Windows (objectively speaking) BUT Windows has always found a way to kick it were it hurts and still impress. Sadly I don't think the mobile war is moving quick enough on out end so lets give them a helping hand rather than jump ship!
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amen, give winmo a god damn user-friendly ui, and some fluent graphics and screw apple.

garyjmobey said:
Apple base OSX on FreeBSD so I'm guessing the Iphone os is too
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you certain bout that? actually, osx is the os from the flopped NEXT system that steve jobs came up with more than a decade ago, and osx, even though its had some face lifts, and iphone os and apps are still coded in Objective-C, a long dead language that predates C++. it isnt even really object oriented. not deep down at the core anyway. its regular C wrapped in some pityfull object oriention extention. anyway, freebsd wasnt around when the next system or objective-c were developed, so that theory is a no-go.. sorry...
i for one would like to see winmo ported to the iphone hardware, but who would write the drivers? not apple, i assure you, but it would be fun!
on another note, from time to time, i pass off my hd as a new prototype iphone black, or the iBlack. put an apple icon as your start icon, go with a black theme, and watch those media-head teenagers drool... its worth every penny hahahaha....

SomethingWicked said:
...actually, osx is the os from the flopped NEXT system that steve jobs came up with more than a decade ago, and osx, even though its had some face lifts, and iphone os and apps are still coded in Objective-C, a long dead language that predates C++. it isnt even really object oriented.
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As far as I know, OSX (and iPhone OS) is based on Darwin, a full open-source FreeBSD derivative developed by Apple... And I guess that Objective-C was chosed for "application developers" to ease the porting of pre-OSX apps to the new OS. And of course, because it seems that using a language no other one uses must be "iCool"

+1 why one earth would someone want to poison HD with such bad OS?
Yes it has fluid graphics and chicks like it, but it sucks at everything else!
Buy SPB mobile shell and make it look like iphone if you so much want it + it is 100x better.
New version 3 is nice competition for even touchflo 3 and x1 panels!

im all for the Touch HD that is why i got myself it and not the iphone... looks much nicer in terms of screen and feel.. much better.. i just want to get OSx on there to proof to someone that the WM platform is much better than apples because you can do ANY thing with it.. even port your competitions OS to it
so its more getting bragging rights than anything else.. i agree that we need to get WM to a point where it can compete with Iphone in a way.. Touch HD doesnt have any hardware keys anymore.. but the OS not completely finger friendly like Iphone.. much to learn from Apple in that regard.. WM is going to have to shape up..
one other thing.. how amazing wont the Apple OS look on the AWESOME HD screen .
other point WM lacks in a lot of software that the iphone has.. not saying i would use everything on the market.. but its kinda nice having the option.. and not seeing something cool on the iphone and then wondering.. hey where is the WM version.. so either the developers need to wakeup and develop for WM and Iphone or we need to port the OS to the HD.. or i need to get an iphone latter option not really an option .. i wont go to the darkside

To support the different hardware one need to write a HAL and so forth. Not a job feasible for individuals (Time, man power and money). Besides this IMAO why would one like to poison such a beautiful device..

The iphone OS is a severly locked down piece of [email protected] in my opinion. You can't change anything, you are in jail with it. The apps are a joke, I never saw such useless applications. The only good thing the OS has is a good on screen keyboard and good web browsing capabilities. Besides that it's garbage. There has been allot of progress with the Windows mobile OS and I think we are getting close to having everything we need/want (allot of good apps, good web browsing and good on screen keyboard). Just my opinion. I used the Iphone 3g for several months. I have a brand new one sitting inside the box sealed that apple replaced for me. BTW, if anybody wants it it's for sale (Black Iphone3G 16GB). Just my opinion.
s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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Official Windows Mobile 6.6 in February 2010

Hi Folks,
just want to inform you about a news over at digitimes saying there will be an official Windows Mobile 6.6 next month. Maybe WM7 is delayed til 2011 due to that development.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100114PD216.html
same news on German news page:
http://winfuture.de/news,52805.html
The screenshots on the german page makes me think that WM6.6 is what the XDA community is used to called "6.5.3" (28xxx development path).
A big Thanks to the Chefs for the continuing great work!
Future

I cannot belive Microsoft with all its resources cannot launch a proper mobile system. If it weren't for the cooks on this forum we'd be stuck with 'ol boring platform. This wait for WinMo 7 is turning into 'Waiting fof Godot' - and if (and when) it finally arrives it may turn out to be a dud.
It's such a shame to have a device like HD2 with all its technical advances and no platform to properly display all its goodies.

tlerner said:
I cannot belive Microsoft with all its resources cannot launch a proper mobile system. If it weren't for the cooks on this forum we'd be stuck with 'ol boring platform. This wait for WinMo 7 is turning into 'Waiting fof Godot' - and if (and when) it finally arrives it may turn out to be a dud.
It's such a shame to have a device like HD2 with all its technical advances and no platform to properly display all its goodies.
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we should all knew Microsoft is like this..

it looks like its a slightly modified 28014, there are already lots of very good ROMS with this path so we dont really have anything to get excited about i am afraid .
I'm using GRID EVO 1.8 which is very good indeed. Incidentally, I wouldnt get too excited about windows 7 either, we may find this destroys are lowly 528 cpu, we'll probably have to wait for it to be cooked into somethign useable.

Do not have big changes.....just improvement of 6.5

Anybody has idea about which com branch is going to be WM6.6?
Mobile Office 2010 came out of beta in 23518 build. So 235xx is going to be WM6.6?

so this means that new roms will be avaliable with wm6.6? and going to be slightly faster?

Keyboard is nice otherwise I don't see anything that deserving to call it 6.6 just random updates.

I think this is to be expected, really. After playing around iphone and android, you can see every part of the system is designed very well (core, system, interface, flexibility, compatibility). I read some rumors that Microsoft have to go back to the drawing board a bit in order to make wm 7 competitive. And if they can keep improving wm 6.5 or 6.6 to be as close in performance as other systems. They can take their sweet time with wm 7, and it's probably a good thing going into 2012 and onwards.

right well hopefully it runs just as good as 6.5 or better wait for windows 7 that's gonna be something completly different.

Unbelievable... This waiting for the Windows Mobile 7 is becoming a big pain... If we didn't have chefs here at the XDA, we would be still stuck with the old platforms.
I believe that Windows 6.6 is just a slight improvement from the 6.5, but we should be happy that Windows Mobile is improving step by step... I think that in this one we have a slightly faster speed and colored "checking the boxes"...

ladieslova said:
Unbelievable... This waiting for the Windows Mobile 7 is becoming a big pain... If we didn't have chefs here at the XDA, we would be still stuck with the old platforms.
I believe that Windows 6.6 is just a slight improvement from the 6.5, but we should be happy that Windows Mobile is improving step by step... I think that in this one we have a slightly faster speed and colored "checking the boxes"...
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Well, after the Blackstone I don't think I will buy another Windows Mobile until I see what Microsoft does with it. Everything about the iPhone just shines quality and efficiency for example, compared to ours - that's not harsh. It's just a bodge in comparison. Also given that they left us with 6.1, I would have gone mad without the chefs.
My contract runs out in June...

According to Danish PC-Mag "PC World" Windows Mobile 7 will be unveiled next month at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Hope you guys can wait that long.
Regards

just to clarify, these are still rumours.
wm6.6 is what we have previously been calling 6.5.3

Sillysod said:
Well, after the Blackstone I don't think I will buy another Windows Mobile until I see what Microsoft does with it. Everything about the iPhone just shines quality and efficiency for example, compared to ours - that's not harsh. It's just a bodge in comparison. Also given that they left us with 6.1, I would have gone mad without the chefs.
My contract runs out in June...
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oh come on thats a bit harse, whats on the iphone is very fancy the problem is there isnt a lot on it. Look, Apple from day one have had a luxury of having an OS running on spacific hardware designed to work with it, Windows mobile has essentially run on just about every configuration of hardware in the mobile market you can think of, its the same debate as the desktop market.
two different markets two different designs both very good at what they do, having a windows mobile platform running and looking like an apple is a bit too much like having your cake and eating it and expecting someone else to clean up your mess, what is unexceptable is having hardware that isnt working fully because the chipset makers wont give us the drivers (or HTC wont pay for them) thats not MS fault, MS didnt leave Touch HD users with 6.1 HTC and the networks did.

WinMo is 10 years old and showing its age... it simply can't compete any more.
The only think that keeps most users using it is not the OS itself, but some of the apps for it (Tom Tom, iGO, etc)
Clearly MS have always struggled to accept fundamentals are wrong... they like to have incremental improvements, but really don't like accepting they might have fundamental flaws.
The funtionality of WinMo is actually very good, but the UI has barely changed in the last 10 years... even less so in the last 7... very very poor. Their attempt at 'themes' was pitiful when they came out, let alone now.
MS see it as brand dilution... having someone create a new UI. Sadly, they fail to accept that if they created a high class UI, folks would be less likely to turn to SPB, or HTC to give their phone an (artificial) makeover.
I will stick with WinMo for a while though, but Android is becoming more tempting. Symbian's dead (even though it's 70% market share for open OS devices). iPhone has all the RIGHT attributes for speed and polish, but the real functionality just isn't there.

6.6...Don;t make me laugh. It's just another excuse for MS to delay WM7.
A comparison with the iphone is not fair in terms of dedicated hardware, but it is fair in terms of user experience.
The iphone just works, it's fluid, people who didn;t want or need a smartphone are jumping up and down for an iphone, sales don;t lie.
What MS is doing with WM7 has to be somthing very special indeed to get me to stick with WM and releasing a point upgrade which will change very very little from what we have access to here, is not going to cut the mustard with die hard WM fans.
WM7 has to be nothing short of groundbreaking otherwsie Smartphone manufaturers will just choose, the by then very mature and Free Android.
Logicalstep

Wow, how many smartphone OS's do we need?

What ever happened to just WinMo and Blackberry and Symbian?
We now have
Windows Mobile
Windows Phone Series 7
Android
WebOS
Bada
LG are developing there own
S-Class (sort of counts?)
iPhone OS
Motorola are developing there own
Symbian s60
Maemo
Blackberry OS
I know more choice is usually a better thing, but surely there is a limit?

Agree, this is way too many! Some will not succeed or will be combined in the next few years.

Don't forget about Brew Mobile by Qualcomm

There is a big difference between Smart OS and other Regular OS`s that intended to be for feature phones , such as Brew, S40 Nokia feature phones platform .. I personally dont think its right to classify Beda OS as smart OS .. but anyway samsung is using the "Smart" word more that any other company.
Btw LG announced they are not planning to build an OS.
Its good to have variety of choices plus it bring up new stuff .. look how amazing webOS is,how stable iPhone OS is .. and hey .. seems like android is capable of putting the best of all out there ..
anyway .. in time the bad OSes will die and disappear the good ones only would make it and stay

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Beda OS as smart OS .. but anyway samsung is using the "Smart" word more that any other company.
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Have you seen the spec on the Bada OS phone? Cetainly seems like a smartphone to me!
But I agree with Brew and s40 not really counting - they're aimed at more budget phones.
Nevertheless do we need 6+ options?

samsung are making their own linux based os too
and nokia and intel are merging their linux based into 1 I read

wow you completely forgot blackberry the king of messaging i mean i know it actually sucks at web browsing but i mean when i start using my berry loads i type faster on that i can on my computer. i gotta say i do like iphone os and winmo. but i recon im gonna go android from now on i've used symbian it suck used blackberry and i hate the ui ( love the messaging and the intergration with facebook i mean us winmo guys get sent an email and have to reply to that but with blackberry the email comes thru but appears as a facebook notification in your messages if you open it it instantly opens the facebook app and takes you to that message photo or status) i like iphone just wish it was more customisable (dad has an iphone and loves everything except the fact you can't change stuff as easily such as battery light from the home screen) i'm using winmo and its bearable due to the fact that sense ui is amazing. but android is the way forward. but in response i feel we probably need about 4 each for diffrent people iphone for anyone android for anyone who hates apple (or realised its actually better than iphone) blackberry for people who need amazing messaging and winmo 7 for thoose windows fan boys

not sure if blackberry is big outside of America at least I never seen one in the country I live in

Rudegar said:
not sure if blackberry is big outside of America at least I never seen one in the country I live in
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Its not that big in the U.K you get the odd one or two, but there certainly not mass market. Although they have done a recent (ongoing) ad campaign on the TV.
But yeah, I completely forgot Blackberry OS.

Don't forget the new MeeGo OS too! What OS are Moto developing?

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What OS are Moto developing?
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Dont know, I think its only in its initial stages. Theres just been posts on various blogs about it. Not too sure weather or not its true.

Hadn't realized we had so many "sorta" working phone O/S'es out there. The company that makes an O/S that works bug-free out-of-the-box will cash in big. To steal a famous quote:
"One O/S to rule them all and in the darkness bind them."

What I'd like to see:
From Android:
Android Phone OS - Android basic OS for phones
AndroidMB - Android mobile business. Google needs to focus on the business market that doesn't strive for a hippie company that lets their entire staff come outside for the passing of Street View vehicles
From Apple:
iPhoneOS
MMB - Mac Mobile Business
From Microsoft
Windows Phone
Windows Mobile Business
I want a business phone that is as close as possible to a mobile computer. Not some interface that makes it fast for me to make a couple quick swipes with my finger to show someone a YouTube video. I understand that it's where the market is going, but there's a lot more contract money in business. Microsoft knows this. Everyone else needs to join the bandwagon. Microsoft can't forget this.

Rudegar said:
not sure if blackberry is big outside of America at least I never seen one in the country I live in
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well, in my country (Indonesia), blackberry selling is at the top level,
meanwhile, winMo phone is barely known here

dont forget hTC
yep its true..they are working on there own OS too...(to be revealed this year)

Ather said:
dont forget hTC
yep its true..they are working on there own OS too...(to be revealed this year)
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Wow. Just Wow. This will be huge!

Personally I find more choice is better. The more competition the better things are for the user in the end run, i.e. better technology, lower prices to name a few. Yes, it can be confusing on which to choose, but would you rather we all use the same device??? Didn't think so.
Also, not are new technologies make it, look at the mini-disc as one example of a technology which was supposed to take over from the CD, but were is it now??? The same applies to phone OS.....not all will make it, but the ideas behind these technologies will be incorporated into the ones which will succeed.....again only better for the end user
JM2C
Rick

Android + Microsoft = A good combo?

You know, Microsoft and HTC agreed to back each other up over HTC Windows/Android handsets (since they have been partners for a long time) over the Apple sh*tfight over the 21 stolen patents from the iPhone. In my personal opinion, I think Microsoft in a way is starting to realize that Android may be a interesting platform to tinker with.
Why am I saying this? Well, I've got a HTC Tattoo. And a HTC Snap. AzusaROM on one, 3VO WM6.5 ROM on the other. They both talk to each other and exchange 1s and 0s happily. I look at my HTC Snap, and Microsoft really made WM6.5 perform nicely.
Still, the Windows Phone platform (WinMo 6.x/WP7) may be on the verge of dying, but I think if Microsoft plays around with Android a tad, they could tap into a world of possibilities. ActiveSync for Android? Microsoft Office for Android? etc etc.
For example, let's say Microsoft takes a poke in Android, and builds a Windows UI for Android. Not that it would happen, let's just imagine it. It would be a Aero-like Windows Phone 7 UI running on top of a Android Kernel either provided by HTC or compiled by Microsoft themselves. You'd still have the Windows compatibility layer, but you could run Windows/Android apps natively. And have the sexy UI goodness that would deglamour the iPhone. Don't like the Aero UI? Press the "Disable" button and poof, you're back to the Nexus One Launcher.
I know I'm possibly dreaming or you think I've lost my marbles, but hey, just my two cents from my point of view.

Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me. As is Symbian and all other mobile platforms. The ONLY one that ever caught my eye was Android. It's the first smart phone I've ever owned, next to a BlackBerry which isn't even really a smart phone in my book, just because it actually has a nice UI.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.

r3s-rt said:
Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.
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Ummm win mo is equally sleek and wasy if your talking in phone terms then Hd-2 is slimmer than your android phone

hell no, they will kill each other before first round

Sialis said:
google and microsoft cant cooperate
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REALLY!?!?!? I mean, REALLY?!?!?!?!?! Look at the date.

MS alreqdy make more money from android than they do from WP7 so they are well aware of the lucrative market available.
Thing is, if they were to release Office for android it would kill WP7 off as it would signal a lack of faith in their own mobile OS.
So we would either have to wait for MS to give up on the mobile OS game, or for WP7/8 to get enough of a market share that developing for android would cause no harm.

ROFL at the ancient bump... good job.

I'm gonna get flamed really bad for this but I think android should go smoothly with osx ( apple computers)
That'd a good combo IMO.
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[Q] Can I Install win6.5 on HD7?

I want to downgrade to win6.5. Is it possible?
Thanks

No and why?!?!
YES!!!!! Get a HD2!!!!

Why use an outdated OS?

my friend tried hd2's 6.5rom.but it can't work

Ripthorn said:
Why use an outdated OS?
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huge no of software available for winmo 6.5

Win6.5 is way to buggy. This is what almost kept me from getting a new Windows Phone. Plus the market place is closed. Only the old stuff is out there with no new software, updates, or upgrades for that OS. I have been using a windows based phone for years and you really have to be a guy that loves to tinker with programming on the regular.

Mayflix said:
Win6.5 is way to buggy. This is what almost kept me from getting a new Windows Phone. Plus the market place is closed. Only the old stuff is out there with no new software, updates, or upgrades for that OS. I have been using a windows based phone for years and you really have to be a guy that loves to tinker with programming on the regular.
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Exactly. You have to tinker with WM a lot, but once you do, and if oyu do it right, you have a powerful and snappy smartphone for a nice price nowdays. Mine is not buggy at all. Far less then some Android phones.