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Now, our BlackStone've got Windows Mobile 6.1, 6.5, (maybe) 7, Android (Linux), iPhone themes and etc.
So, can anyone who being the top developer in XDA-Dev will try to run symbian from Nokia 5800?
I think that if this idea come true, it's maybe make BlackStone to be the Guiness World of Record that can install (almost) operating system for mobile device in the world.
Please share your idea...
from a pure hardweae point of view the blackstone should be able to run symbian (directky/as primary OS) on a softwear point of view the current spl probably will not permit it if that is the case that can be resolved but would require quite extensive modification of the code in the spl. akternitivly the othere approach is to run as a secondary or emulated os. but then if the spl dose allow symbian the os will need to be ported all options requre a fair deal of work on the soft wear, im a heardwear guy no coder or softwear writer/developer i can do some basics but if the project starts ill be happy to do what i can.
this would be akin to putting a fiat engine in a ferarri, no?
lancemate said:
this would be akin to putting a fiat engine in a ferarri, no?
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ya i thnk ur right...but having symbian as an emulated os will shut up every other idiot who'll claim that our phone is **** because it doesnt run symbian (like n97) so..will be a BIG plus point ...n can also put our dear phone in guiness world records.
lancemate said:
this would be akin to putting a fiat engine in a ferarri, no?
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Not quite! Let's not forget that Ferarri is owned by FIAT !!
So symbian on the HD will be more complicated!
Hi,
Don't take this the wrong way, but if you like the symbian software that much (And believe me, I do love it to) why don't you just buy the Nokia 5800... the device is developed for the soft so it will run perfect on that one...
Grtz
Prille said:
Hi,
Don't take this the wrong way, but if you like the symbian software that much (And believe me, I do love it to) why don't you just buy the Nokia 5800... the device is developed for the soft so it will run perfect on that one...
Grtz
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Just be the idea because if anyone (I mean to XDA-Dev's intelligent developers) can ported and modified ROM for install Symbian OS, it's will be the really good thing.
I like the WM very much, but still want to know that is it possible to run other OS? I think that it will really good sound as if we can run almost OS in the world.
lancemate said:
this would be akin to putting a fiat engine in a ferarri, no?
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It's something like "taking this **** out of the ferrari.... "
i too wish if there was away to run symbian on my tp2 i have been a hard core symbain lover since the nokia 7650 but since i brought the n96 which was very disappointing it was time to change so i brought the htc touch pro2 however i love the phone but hate the OS so i hope there will be a way for phones to have multiple os like symbian and android and winmo all in one phone that would be awesome
To start with ...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa454903.aspx
tids2k said:
To start with ...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa454903.aspx
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but thats migrating symbian base applications on windws and not migrating the symbian os..
Just found this today:
http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014697o-2000675210b,00.htm
Regards, Baz
I dont think so..
because WM7 comes out in March.
And xda support will there alway's be ( i hope and i think xD)
They won't kill WM, and even if they did, we would still have our forum and the freedom to probay do what MS didn't want us to mod in WM
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because WM7 comes out in March.
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...is this your first Windows Mobile phone ?.....
WM 7 will be out in ...Mar....er.....May.......er.....will definitely be ready by Aug...er......1Q 2011.
To me, it is. Manufacturers are dropping it in favor of the much friendlier Android platform and the public seemingly lost interest in it. It will go like PalmOS did unless Windows Mobile 7 doesn't borrow anything from its ancestors.
It's about time HTC takes WM behind the shed and put it to rest until MS can show something worth using.
I'm tired of waiting for WM7, so I'm looking at the HTC Nexus 1 with Android 2.1 in January to be my next bad boy toy!
"because WM7 comes out in March."
last news I got was Q4
denco7 said:
...is this your first Windows Mobile phone ?.....
WM 7 will be out in ...Mar....er.....May.......er.....will definitely be ready by Aug...er......1Q 2011.
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naaah i dont think so htc has confirmed the hd2 will be getting wm7 and when have u heard about htc supporting a 13/14/15 month old device lol clearly its gunna be out sooner than you think
Windows mobile!
galaxys said:
I'm tired of waiting for WM7, so I'm looking at the HTC Nexus 1 with Android 2.1 in January to be my next bad boy toy!
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What?!
You said you´ll be going for Leo!!
Now for Nexus?
I don´t think Nexus will be at the same level of Leo!
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Windows mobile is far away from being dead!
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What?!
You said you´ll be going for Leo!!
Now for Nexus? I don´t think Nexus will be at the same level of Leo!
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LOL, yep not waiting on the usa Leo in April but going to the Dark Side on Jan 5th It's still HTC and check the specs out which are impressive
Well, if they keep the winmo 6.x versions for some more, itll be enough to kill it. It cant even be compared with the android. My guess is if winmo 7 does not come soon enough (now hoping that it will be on the same level as android), well this will be enough time for the other OS to take over.
@galaxys
Good luck with Android buddy!
I´m sure you´ll miss WM!!
As for buisnees envoirment (as you mentioned before) is the best OS
I´ll stay with WM!
Happy new year!
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What?!
You said you´ll be going for Leo!!
Now for Nexus?
I don´t think Nexus will be at the same level of Leo!
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It has a snapdragon chip, i dunno how much ram it has tho
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Well, if they keep the winmo 6.x versions for some more, itll be enough to kill it. It cant even be compared with the android. My guess is if winmo 7 does not come soon enough (now hoping that it will be on the same level as android), well this will be enough time for the other OS to take over.
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Android has a long way to go before it compaires to windows mobile, yeah it has potential but, the apps dont come close to the ones on windows and 99% of them are useless gimicky crap like the iphone also customising android is a pain in the arse, im thinking of selling my hero and getting a tp2 lol
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Well, if they keep the winmo 6.x versions for some more, itll be enough to kill it. It cant even be compared with the android. My guess is if winmo 7 does not come soon enough (now hoping that it will be on the same level as android), well this will be enough time for the other OS to take over.
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I always thought WinMo 6.5.3 like COM 8 or COM 3 were to be WinMo 7, so that they'll join the market closer to Windows Seven. It's neither logical, nor I have no proof of that, but my intuition says...
afn691 said:
I always thought WinMo 6.5.3 like COM 8 or COM 3 were to be WinMo 7, so that they'll join the market closer to Windows Seven. It's neither logical, nor I have no proof of that, but my intuition says...
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i assume the win mo 6.5.2/.3 builds are just ms playing with possible ui's for windows mobile 7 as its clear that ppc lcd screen technology, it about to radically change, with mulit-touch screens becomming the norm....
Hybrid resistive capacitive screens are the way forward. Or even multi-touch resistive. I swear we all use capacitive screens today slightly because of apple and the iphone...
Also end of windows mobile its already happened its windows phone now
chris10230 said:
Hybrid resistive capacitive screens are the way forward. Or even multi-touch resistive. I swear we all use capacitive screens today slightly because of apple and the iphone...
Also end of windows mobile its already happened its windows phone now
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"windows Phone" is a type of device not an operating system lol
I'm very confident this prediction won't happen in 2010.
Even other Mobile OS is getting more and more marketshare. But until now, WM is still the best. Other OS still has long way to go.
jianwu_chen said:
I'm very confident this prediction won't happen in 2010.
Even other Mobile OS is getting more and more marketshare. But until now, WM is still the best. Other OS still has long way to go.
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I think it's the opposite, Windows Mobile has a long way to go.
Let's see: poor online services integration, late release of a marketplace for applications, developers slowly switching to more lucrative platforms, manufacturers prefering up-to-date platforms and stylus-based navigation and I'm not done. Windows Mobile feels like Palm OS did 3 years ago.
I knew Android would eventually get ported to the HD7, but I sold mine! The HD7 will make an excellent Android phone, and an excellent upgrade from the HD2, because of the cap buttons. And now that WP7 is a half-hearted, at best, mobile OS, the timing for this is right on.
Thankfully I have an HTC Inspire, which is very much similar to the HD7 with cap buttons and all.
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
My roommate has an HD7. Please tell me someone here knows simplified Han Chinese (according to Google Translate). He would love it
i'm an HD7 user from Taiwan, and am patiently waiting traditional Chinese input for WP7.
this would be nice, but it would have to be a very complete and stable OS for me to make a switch.
IMO, WP7 is good enough for me now. Just need that chinese input, and i'm happy.
Preety Impress and sure it will rock on the HD7
But having come from android to windows, I seem to prefer Windows mobile now compared to android and may only consider flashing it if its dual boot or something
WP7 seems to have grown on me
Still have my HTC HERO for my android needs (although I just use it for flashing new roms and thats it nowadays )
dual booting would be awesome, hahaha
Holy Crap!
Can I have one too??
Im not impressed really.
These are the same people who showed us a video of wp7 on hd2 (back in november), booting from nand without magldr, but they never released anything until cotulla did it.
Android? Is that that really laggy, fragmented "operating system" which is a bastardization of a clone of UNIX, made by an Internet Advertising Company? The one that's "open source" but for which they're not releasing the source any more? The one that recently got hit by a bunch of trojan apps, and which the Pandora app exploited to snaffle user data?
Oh.
Yeah I want that on my HD7. No, really.
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Android? Is that that really laggy, fragmented "operating system" which is a bastardization of a clone of UNIX, made by an Internet Advertising Company? The one that's "open source" but for which they're not releasing the source any more? The one that recently got hit by a bunch of trojan apps, and which the Pandora app exploited to snaffle user data?
Oh.
Yeah I want that on my HD7. No, really.
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LOL well said. Why buy a WP7 device and then install android ... pointless Its like buying a Lamborghini and then putting a Renault Twingo Motor inside.
pencilcase said:
LOL well said. Why buy a WP7 device and then install android ... pointless Its like buying a Lamborghini and then putting a Renault Twingo Motor inside.
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Not really. In the case of WP7, it turns out to be half-hearted at best. Android would be an improvement, especially on the HD7. It would be like pulling a Yugo hamster wheel out and installing a Corvette LT1.
We get it, you don't like it. XDA forums aren't for fanboys posting flame-bait. Take it elsewhere.
I think the port is done for the heck of it. I really don't see a pont to run Androind on my HD7. The biggest hurdle for me to try another OS is thelack of WP7 keyboard on those OSs. I cannot imagine typing using another SW KB anymore.
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I don't really like Android that much. Now WebOS on the HD7 would rock.
Ogner said:
I don't really like Android that much. Now WebOS on the HD7 would rock.
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+1 on that.
I don't think I'm ever going to run Android on my HD7.
So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
No bashing here, well written post, honest and truthful. Nothing wrong with that.
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Oh yeah, thanks for the direct quote.
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Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
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So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
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I agree with you completely. I'm in the exact same situation as I had a dual boot android/wp7 hd2 and the digitizer broke. Mostly I used android because of the apps, but I like wp7 better for it's sleek design.
I'm baffled how 75% of people on the hd7 threads can say 'JUST GO BUY A ANDROID PHONE" and "why would you want to dual boot an hd7?". I could buy an android phone but, stupid tmobile replaced my hd2 with an hd7 for free. it's a great phone, there are few which are better currently.
In the hd2 threads, most people wanted to push the limits and explore every possible option; that seems to be missing in large part from the hd7 threads. "just go buy an android phone" will never be the answer.
shame on you who say this...
The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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scrminsqrl said:
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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And I would like to get Android on this device so for the sake of entertainment
Although WM7 better Android
To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
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The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
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Oh no, I saw it, but after going through it, I didn't think it would get noticed in there.
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To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
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This is what I'm talking about...just fyi. I couldn't care less about getting android on this phone, because I don't have this phone (if you can read). This is just a note to all of you.
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Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
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Because when I am able to get a new subsidized phone, it will definitely be something better than a Desire HD. I just have to wait for my contract to end first, which is in January.
no body until now find an android rom for hd7
android mozart
http://translate.googleusercontent....=61601&usg=ALkJrhjDUJ4y6X_X9fY2trv-TYbXrwtycQ
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if this is true then why dont you buy a mozart and try this rom...
The overall WP7 posse hardly resembles the WM crowd.
I've been a die hard Windows fan ever since my AT&T 8525-even before that with a couple PPC PDA's. When I lost that phone I replaced it with a Samsung Epix. Despite my horrible experience software fiascoes and the Epix, I still returned to Window's Mobile when I got my Tilt2. It was while I was dealing with my Epix that I discovered a cooked rom on a site that I had not previously heard of, XDA Developers. I now use this site a my primary guide to purchase new phones...if I can't hack it and install custom roms I have no interest in it.
Through my time with my Tilt2 I made some observations about the Windows Mobile community. Many of them were like me and had over time found many CABs that work well for them and were content with a platform that the were familiar with. Many of them were veteran programmers well versed in C++ and could really do some magic. Others just signed a two year contract with the cheapest old smart phones their provider was clearing out. What ever the reason we had our devices in a world where IOS and Android were rapidly taking over. Every one worked together and amazing things were accomplished. In the Touch Pro 2 forums, Android and Ubuntu was running, and a lot of you are familiar with everything that was done with the HD2. These things happened because WM fans by nature enjoyed doing them.
As Windows Mobile phones started to die off through breakage and device upgrades, a lot of my companions switch gears to the Iphone after it made great strides since the first gen EDGE only model, in OS capability, hardware performace, and a now enormous hacking community. Others who wanted remain anti Apple and wanted more freedom out of the box went with Android.
It finally came to my time in the begining of this year to upgrade. I knew very little about Windows Phone 7 devices except that I did not know a single person who owned one and that it was not backwards compatible with any of my software. Being completely anti Apple I began shopping around fully intending to buy an Android device. I started playing with floor models and I noticed one thing about every Android device. No matter how fast the hardware was, when I would touch and slide to unlock, there was always a noticeable lag. I found that to be a bad sign. Then when navigating the phones, they all lack the responsiveness of my wifes Iphone 4. So I tried the Windows Phone devices and they were all incredibly responsive. In all the menus and and web browser I slide my finger rapidly trying to out run the display and I swear I could not find any where that lagged. I was intrigued and hooked. After checking XDA and of all the WP7 phones available to me with AT&T, the HD7s was the only one with custom roms.
I believe this to be the only reason any of us here. Window Phone 7's foundation is simply flawless. Now that's not to say over all the OS is any where near perfect. It is severely lacking in software, customization, and even basic preferences. It is in these ways I've described WP7 as ever more "iPhone" than the iPhone itself. Now all this mean's is the biggest reason any body has a WP7 device is because the actually like it. So it's not far from reason there is little interest in changing operating systems. We've reached a point were all smart phones have virtually equal internal hardware so phone are chosen primarily based on software. The people who find themselves stuck with an HD7 against their liking are a very small fraction of an already small community. Those coming from an HD2 or a Rodium know that to get Anrdroid onto these devices took countless man hours from many very determined and very talented people working together. They just aren't with us here in the HD7 community. We are lucky to have the very talented developers that are here producing custom Windows ROMs.
Own android nd wm7/hd7
I agree with all of you but, with that said this is my take on it. I am using Simple Mobile $60 unlimited plan by the way just so everyone knows. I have both a htc hd7 with a 32gb sd in it- its running mango. I also have three android phones. HTC wildfire s in white, Samsung Vibrant, Htc mytouch 4g(my only 4g phone). Starting from the top. All my android phones have custom roms installed and are rooted. I love android as much as the next guy cause when I use those phones I love the apps and love that I have all of them nearly maxed out on there performance figures due to the roms and overclocking.
This being said all my android phones still can not keep up with my hd7 in everyday use when you talk about smoothness. Like the guy before me was saying as well how all the android phones he tested lagged when unlocking. That is still the same situation here with me after installing custom roms which did make the phones faster and after overclocking made then even faster. But even with my hd7 running a stock mango rom it still is the phone that I use most because of the smoothness and responsiveness that it has when using it for normal everyday smartphone activities like gps, internet browsing, watching videos, playing music, and texting and calling of course. This stock oem wm7.5 mango hd7 works better at all these things than any of my android phones.
This being said I would like to have android on the device as a dual boot that way I would get rid of my other android phones and just have this one phone for both. But, I would still use wm most of the time, which is the reason that I think ppl who own an hd7 or any other wm7 or 7.5 phone own them cause everything works great. and yes i agree with the other guy before me in saying that it does need more development in customizations and applications. but where it lacks here it makes up for in performance and ease of use. so in my opinion there is a plus and minus to both android phones and wm phones. the only question is which one will correct there downfalls first. apples will not be talked about with me cause i hate them but, as far as wm and droid go both need improvements.
Going with this thread this would be my reason for why i think no one has really developed an android system for this device yet cause unlike the android devices the hd7 does everything the way a smartphone should. I would dual boot but, i would never wipe wm7.5 off of it cause that would just be stupid and would be like downgrading. performance wise wm7 > android anyday until android fixes their laggy os.
Have you guys seen this
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
Relax Suc**** its on the way ...
Thats not a real HTC HD7 its a fake chinese imitation!!!!!!! that video is old
Anyone here think it can be done? I'm looking to get one, but it would be really nice if WP8 can be installed on it. Even WP7.8 would be nice.
I tried asking this in the Nexus 7 section, but the Android fanboys there just kept pestering me about why I'd want to change to WP. It got annoying after a while. Thought I'd ask here, where there'd be more enthusiasm for the idea.
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Anyone here think it can be done? I'm looking to get one, but it would be really nice if WP8 can be installed on it. Even WP7.8 would be nice.
I tried asking this in the Nexus 7 section, but the Android fanboys there just kept pestering me about why I'd want to change to WP. It got annoying after a while. Thought I'd ask here, where there'd be more enthusiasm for the idea.
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O_O Windows phone 8?....on a Asus Nexus 7 tablet? WHY? not even microsoft has made one (and for good reason....it wouldnt make a good tablet UI on its own). Id think that if anything....you would want windows 8 on it seeing as how thats got that awful metro UI AND full bown access to the windows OS. Also im gonna say no, windows phone 8 is less open source and less popular than android or iOS so I dont think its attracting the proper amount of developers that it would need to accomplish such a feat (if possible anyway). But what do i know....im just an "android fanboy"
markiemice said:
Anyone here think it can be done? I'm looking to get one, but it would be really nice if WP8 can be installed on it. Even WP7.8 would be nice.
I tried asking this in the Nexus 7 section, but the Android fanboys there just kept pestering me about why I'd want to change to WP. It got annoying after a while. Thought I'd ask here, where there'd be more enthusiasm for the idea.
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Ever saw an android phone (except HD2) running some stable build of windows phone?
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hiu115 said:
Ever saw an android phone (except HD2) running some stable build of windows phone?
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the hd2 is not a android device
Based on the information at the below wp8 won't be installing on anything it wasn't intended for:
"These new Windows Phone 8 security features also make it obvious as to why Windows Phone 8 will not run on current Windows Phone devices… they lack a chip that has been burned with security keys for the platform, OEM, and device."
http://pocketnow.com/2012/09/03/custom-roms-on-windows-phone-8/
i would run it