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Rooting a HTC Dream without applying another ROM

I have a South African HTC Dream and did some research on this forum about rooting. I am more than happy with the phone's current ROM with the exception that it does not support WPA-Enterprise Wifi - in order for me to configure this, I would need to root the phone and will then be able to adjust wpa_supplicant.conf.
In all the tutorials I would have to downgrade the firmware (I have not been able to do this with any of the guides supplied - either normal RC7 downgrade, 1-click or Goldcard) in order to root the phone.
Is there any way I can root the phone without having to flash another ROM (i.e. retain the current HTC ROM and make adjustments to wpa_supplicant.conf)? Most ROMs provided are not based on HTC build, and I would loose ActiveSync. AFAIK there is no ROM available which provides ActiveSync AND HTC Mail.
My current phone info:
DREAM PVT 32B SHIP S-ON d
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (DREA20000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,21:33:16
Firmware: 1.5
Baseband: 62.525.20.18U_3.22.20.17
Kernel: 2.6.27-9af60ed4 [email protected]
Build: 1.87.421.1 146733 CL#47295 release-keys

GNaschenweng said:
Is there any way I can root the phone without having to flash another ROM (i.e. retain the current HTC ROM and make adjustments to wpa_supplicant.conf)? Most ROMs provided are not based on HTC build, and I would loose ActiveSync. AFAIK there is no ROM available which provides ActiveSync AND HTC Mail.
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There are HTC based ROMs. The ROM from the Rogers Dream has exchange support, but before you flash the ROM you must flash the new radio then the SPL.

AdrianK said:
There are HTC based ROMs. The ROM from the Rogers Dream has exchange support, but before you flash the ROM you must flash the new radio then the SPL.
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Thanks - I replaced my phone with another one (FW 1.1) and was able to flash. I installed Touchdown to overcome the Exchange problems - not ideal, but best choice now.

GNaschenweng said:
Thanks - I replaced my phone with another one (FW 1.1) and was able to flash. I installed Touchdown to overcome the Exchange problems - not ideal, but best choice now.
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You're on 1.1?! I would strongly recommend flashing a Cyanogen ROM to get you back to 1.5.

I did update to latest Cyanogen rom. One question: I rooted the phone and am on latest Cyanogen. Only (minor) issue I have is that before the Cyanogen splash-screen comes on, I still see my mobile providers boot-logo (for about 10 seconds until the splash screen comes) - is there any way to change this?
I tried fastboot flash splash1, but get an error. As part of my rooting I did not flash SPL (i.e. HardSPL) but have cm-recovery - should I update SPL and if so which one (also, what is the risk of bricking?).
If replace SPL, do I need to update the radio again or reflesh Cyanogen?

As far as I know you wouldn't need to flash either again, HardSPL is known to be safe on all phones I believe. The only problems I've heard are with Haykuro's SPL. If you haven't flashed a new SPL that could be the issue, what is the error your getting when trying to change the splash?

GNaschenweng said:
I did update to latest Cyanogen rom. One question: I rooted the phone and am on latest Cyanogen. Only (minor) issue I have is that before the Cyanogen splash-screen comes on, I still see my mobile providers boot-logo (for about 10 seconds until the splash screen comes) - is there any way to change this?
I tried fastboot flash splash1, but get an error. As part of my rooting I did not flash SPL (i.e. HardSPL) but have cm-recovery - should I update SPL and if so which one (also, what is the risk of bricking?).
If replace SPL, do I need to update the radio again or reflesh Cyanogen?
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It should be safe as long as it doesn't not require a specific radio. I have never heard of the radio version you have, but that's probably because you don't have a t-mobile G1. What carrier is it on? If it's unlocked, what was the original carrier? (the ones displayed on the boot screen).
I think Josh is right that it's safe for all Dream's, so you probably could go ahead and flash it, I'm not 100% sure. Just a quick not about flash SPL's and radios on cm-recovery, you have to physically press alt-s then home+back to reboot. Don't touch the trackball. That's only for SPLs and radios.

The hard spl is great, but if u want to run hero u will nees to flash haykuros spl. If u do flash haykuros spl make sure u flash the new radio image FIRST! OR U WILL BRICK! Have fun flashing away

Thanks. I applied SPL from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
And then fastboot worked: /fastboot-mac flash splash1 DOWNGRADE-SD/Boot_images/android.rgb565
Upgraded to latest Cyanogen 4.0.4 and have now an awesome phone - thanks to everyone for the help on this forum!

GNaschenweng said:
Thanks. I applied SPL from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
And then fastboot worked: /fastboot-mac flash splash1 DOWNGRADE-SD/Boot_images/android.rgb565
Upgraded to latest Cyanogen 4.0.4 and have now an awesome phone - thanks to everyone for the help on this forum!
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i have a question for you. did you flash another radio before doing the "danger spl"
i ask because the radio you have is also the stock radio for rogers

david1171 said:
i have a question for you. did you flash another radio before doing the "danger spl"
i ask because the radio you have is also the stock radio for rogers
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I had flashed ota-radio-2_22_19_26I (not sure what it was before). I did roughly document my steps on my blog if you are interested.

GNaschenweng said:
I had flashed ota-radio-2_22_19_26I (not sure what it was before). I did roughly document my steps on my blog if you are interested.
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thanks. after seeing the radio you said you originally had in the first post i remembered that rogers has a radio that starts with a 3(then i searched and they are the same radio), then when i tried to download the root rogers package from that thread it kept timing out the download, so i was just curious as to radio you used. according to all the rogers root thread you have to flash the 1.33.2005 spl first before you can actually root, so basically i was trying to figure out if devices with that radio are immune to the bricking without 2.22.19.26I radio.

questions for updating radio

xda community,
sorry if it dosent belong here but if anything move it or lock it but really need help....
i received a replacement phone from tmobile with the radio 2.22.19.261 and that is the radio update we need...well i bricked 1 phone because i tried doing this and didnt notice that it had already the radio......what im concerned about is if i should skip the update radio step and just install the spl???? please some feedback would be greatly appreciated and once again sorry if it dosent belong here.
plz and thank you

the 2.22.26I is the radio that is needed to flash the 1.33.2005 spl. also make sure phone is a pvt instead of dvt by booting the phone into bootloader (camera and power) and find out on that screen. if you have both of those then the 1.33.2005 *should* (being the keyword) flash without problems.

it is a PVT board so you are suggesting i just flash the spl since the radio already came with the phone?

djcookiedj said:
it is a PVT board so you are suggesting i just flash the spl since the radio already came with the phone?
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if you want to be on the really safe side, then you should flash the radio first

i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone

djcookiedj said:
i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone
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if you have any doubts then if i was you, i would flash the radio first just to make sure.

djcookiedj said:
i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone
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You should flash the Radio haykuro posted. I did just to be safe. I believe i saw one person brick even though he had the 26I radio, but i dont think he knew what he was doing.
if your gonna flash the .2005 spl, you might as well be extra safe and flash the radio. its only a few minutes more

quick update :
i went ahead and prayed that this went well.....since my g1 was pre-shipped with the newest RADIO version in an older g1 that had the newest radio i tried applying the Radio update and it bricked.....so this time i went ahead and (thanxz for the feedback) just flashed the SPL and VOILA !!! now i am testing the hero ROMs and BLUR rom.....thanks guys

djcookiedj said:
quick update :
i went ahead and prayed that this went well.....since my g1 was pre-shipped with the newest RADIO version in an older g1 that had the newest radio i tried applying the Radio update and it bricked.....so this time i went ahead and (thanxz for the feedback) just flashed the SPL and VOILA !!! now i am testing the hero ROMs and BLUR rom.....thanks guys
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your welcome, glad that your phone is still booting and flashing strong

update radio
I wanted to update the radio pls send the link or step by step how to upgrade radio cause i try in the forum and i found a difference methode .... there's nbh, ota,... i didn't understand ... pls make a simple link and how to
thanks

quick question regarding radios

I have the latest cyanogen rom and i know it flashed a new radio when i did that (via the htc update)
now if i wanted to swtich to a new rom like MLIGN hero 2.8 would i need to flash back to the older radio(radio 2.22.19.26I)?
im just trying to avoid a brick, i've already bricked one of my phones switching radios lol

mswiss said:
I have the latest cyanogen rom and i know it flashed a new radio when i did that (via the htc update)
now if i wanted to swtich to a new rom like MLIGN hero 2.8 would i need to flash back to the older radio(radio 2.22.19.26I)?
im just trying to avoid a brick, i've already bricked one of my phones switching radios lol
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Pretty sure 2.22.19.26I is the latest radio.

2.22.19.26I is the latest radio and has been since cupcake.
Boot into hboot [camera]+[power] and it'll tell you what version you're using. I will bet my own anus it's 2.22.19.26I.

yea it is... i was pretty sure in order to get cyanogen's rom it changed your radio image when you flashed the htc recovery image, im guessing it was the same one i already had then

mswiss said:
yea it is... i was pretty sure in order to get cyanogen's rom it changed your radio image when you flashed the htc recovery image, im guessing it was the same one i already had then
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Yea the HTC recovery image does include a radio, but its the same one we've been using for ages.
Incidentally, it's not radio images that brick your phone, its the 1.33.2005 spl (also known as Haykuro's spl, deathspl, etc), which is only compatible with radio 2.22.19.26I, so unless you're using that spl you can flash radios freely.

lol i wouldnt say freely.... radios can cause bricks just like spls lol

How to tell what spl you have

I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?

If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.

Joe333x said:
I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?
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All you do is press
Camer+power then look next to Hboot.

tardie said:
If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.
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thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.

Joe333x said:
thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.
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1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.

Ace42 said:
1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.
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according to one ROM thread I read the creator of the ROM said you must have Danger or Engineering SPL. I have heard of people bricking there phones using Haykuro SPL. Thats great news though, I had thought they were stopping G1 updates after 1.6

SPL question

I have tried searching the forum but I cannot find a straight answer on upgrading SPLs. I currently have a rooted G1 running CM5.0.8 and I have the engineering spl HBoot - 1.33.2005. My question is that I have seen versions 1.33.2010, and I am wondering what the differences are between and if it would be better to upgrade my device, i.e are there any improvements in the newer spl versions? Thank you to anyone that can provide me an answer!

xanronin said:
I have tried searching the forum but I cannot find a straight answer on upgrading SPLs. I currently have a rooted G1 running CM5.0.8 and I have the engineering spl HBoot - 1.33.2005. My question is that I have seen versions 1.33.2010, and I am wondering what the differences are between and if it would be better to upgrade my device, i.e are there any improvements in the newer spl versions? Thank you to anyone that can provide me an answer!
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No. There is nothing of benefit in 1.33.2010 for you.

There is no good reason to change the spl. magic users use 1.33.2009 and 1.33.2010, and nearly no dream users use them.
On the dream it will shrink data/system partitions (increasing cache) thus likely removing the functionality that made you installed danger for in the first place.
I have not seen a change in functionality if there is it's in an undocumented extended function I have not dirived a use for yet.
Both 1.33.2009 and 1.33.2010 also only support 2.x and 3.x radios like the danger spl. So its no safer to install on a dream than danger spl.