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Calling All COOKS: Touch Pro2 / Diamond2 ROM Dump

the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here :[ Link removed due to it not being a "real/official" diamond2 dump... ]
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?

itsallsubliminal said:
the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?
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It's not. I bet it's a rom dump from Dutty's HD rom but it does have a lot of goodies in it.

its a dump from duttys

People have no respect! The community really should reject anyone using this dump without explicit approval from Dutty

i see... thanks for clearing that up guys...
but for real tho, when a real dump is out, would it be hard to port? or will the ball get rollin pretty darn fast?

I've been googling for about 5 or 6hrs and haven't found anything that is legit.... If i find something i'll post some links.

good lookin out bxsteez! thanks man

I just know a Diamond2 was stolen in MWC2009....

isnt it early to find a rom dump?
i thought these usually show up when manufacturers have their build from HTC or whatever. These should be based on WM 6.5 no?

My information about the diamond's 2 are that there are wm6.1 Prof. devices. If you want, It is possible to make an offical update to 6.5, so HTC on a video on youtube by the WMC.
cemetry

So was Dutty the one who stole the device from HTC's CEO?

There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.

Bxsteez said:
There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.
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have you had a look at jerpleleas kitchen? I'm downloading it now to see if it is the D2 rom.

I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.

Bxsteez said:
I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.
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It looks like it's got pretty much all the obtained rhodium stuff in it, mixed with some kovsky and and HD.
For novices it's sublimely easy to build with, literally one button and choose what apps you want..
Does have many of the same bugs Itjes B1 had, (contacts etc) and a load of custom icons which aren't to my tastes. but overall it's very very impressive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483703 (the 1.5.14)

Nice i'll try it when i get home. It doesn't happen to have the 21018 SYS does it?
OH wow there are so many different kitchens. I wonder how tfl3d from touch pro2 will work on windows 6.5 better than it does on 6.1...

[Q] Wil Manila 2.5 Sense UI ever run smooth on our HD Blackstone?

Hi there,
Title says everything.
I know that the HD2 Leo has a bigger processor then our HD, but with (lots of) tweaks on Manila 2.5, will it ever be possible that it runs smooth?
I mean, scrolling in photo's and music in landscape modus in manila is too laggy to use now..
I'm not a ROM cooker, so excuse me if this is a silly question.

I don't believe it can ever come close to running as well on the Leo but I've tried a bunch of them and Flashmore runs pretty dang well on it imho. I've played with the Leo and if the speed of it is a 10 on there Flashmore runs at 7 on ours.

Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things

Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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Ok, really good to hear! Hope it will then
Else I would almost consider to buy a HD2

I think i've tried all the versions at some point in different ROMS and I have to say it IS getting faster imo.
I think there will alwasy be a gap between how it performs on a LEO to our Blackstone, mainly due to the amount of opitimisation HTC can apply over what the guys here can. Things like graphics drivers and API's.
It is more than usable in the most recent versions and hopefully it will become better and better.
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep

Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS.
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Doing the same i'm really fed up of winmo sluggishness, even the alpha android builds that are coming from #htc-linux are faster...

Logicalstep said:
To be honest I think alot of people are going off WM anyway and starting to look at Android as a quicker and smotther OS. At least until WM7 is released...sometime....ahhh...in ummmm let me think....nope 2010 sometime!
Logicalstep
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Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?

the latest builds are getting better and better. all we need is good drivers and little overcloking of the cpu. at 600 Mhz it will be enough to run manilla 2.5 without problems. must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.

khanem said:
must say that i tried HD2 and you really need big hands to handle it. our beloved HD has the perfect mensurations.
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totally agree with you! HD2 is way too big for me, I just love the design of our lovely blackstone
otherwise I think I would have bought the HD2..

Mikenif said:
Eventually i think it will. imo the last few versions that leaked have improved on speed and stability. Especially browsing pictures in landscape feels quicker by the build so lets hope it will keep improving. Also some focussing on tweaking the drivers of the blackstone could help us keep up with things
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I hope for the same outcome, but we have to remember that the Leo ROMs were designed for use on the HD2 hence the reason for why they run so smoothly on that device, which has a bigger processor, more RAM, etc.
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.

Mastoid said:
If I could afford it, the only reason for why I would want to upgrade to the HD2 would be for a potential Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
Regards.
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I think the moment Windows 7 will be out for the HD2 (probably at the end of 2010) there will be much better devices on the market than the HD2, so no use if you buy one now

It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).

barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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so, maybe WM 6.1 with manila 2.5..?
think I rather have a slower manila.. Really don't like WM6.1

Hmm, maybe android works a lot faster, but I just really like Touchflow, if the animations in landscape music and pictures (and everything else in manila) works flawless, I think I stick to WM and Manila.
Cause in android, you wont have nice animations.. or do you?
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Umm yes Android has the lovely animations and they work super smooth on the Hero. the screen transitions from basic settings screen are even nice.
Windows mobile just has that horrible lag when swithcing between any app or screen. The kind of thing the Iphone and android doesn't have.
It may only be a small lag (half a second) but it makes WM look old and slow.
Also you have to remember that the hardware is required by Andorid to have OpenGL ES 2 support, which mean properly implimented drivers. 6.5 doesn;t.
I read alsi that it looks like windows 7 will only support the snapdragon CPU (although I can't see that actually being the case)
Logicalstep

I think Leo is so big!! and its battery could be better.... Our blackstone is the best device...! I think HTC Bravo with Android could be better than our loved Blackstone...
I use leo26 v4 with m2.5.. and I think the manila is running well.. lets wait manila 2.6. and in march wm7!!

barisahmet said:
It can't become as smooth as 2.1. It might be improved, yes, 2.5 was very poor on blackstone at first versions, now it's just poor (talking about speed). I think it's windows 6.5's problem rather than manila. For example there is big difference between two topix roms, wm6.5 and wm6.1 (both are manila 2.1).
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Dude you are running 1,5 OS on your device (wm + manila)...so no wonder why it's lame...just give a try to BlackDragonROM...it's as smooth as manila 2.5 can be...do not know if you will like it...but it's smooth. I also prefer android...had a new motorolla last week in my hands...it was smooth as hell...but the downside was...no apps...just a few google apps. They are all online apps...and I am living new france boarder...so online apps can be really expensive in those regions.

Wait for dualcore processors
Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html

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Qualcomm will in near future release dual core processors with low power consumption. It can go as fast as 2 GHz!!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/13/qualcomm.snapdragon.2.core/
http://www.articlesbase.com/busines...lcore-processor-challenges-intel-1367074.html
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i think these are more likely to go in low power laptops/netbooks than a mobile device. 1ghz is more than adequate at this point in time and this is before alot of the stuff is even optimised for a processor of this speed.
about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it. landscape photo and and music tabs wont ever be smooth as the drivers for the blackstone are such that there is a huge fps drop going from portrait to landscape (think what happens in opera) so even if the blackstone had the power, it is let down by drivers and theres nothing we can do about that.
but yea, an interesting question raised by the OP and im glad i took the time to look around the new manilla 2.5 roms.

Mastoid said:
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Windows 7 ROM release - something which is unlikely to happen on the HD in my opinion.
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Wow you say this in Manilla 2.5 related thread on a ROM cooking forum...
...where WinMo 6.5.3 is available for HD
just saying
anyway back on topic i go
try this, people report Manila speed increase even on HD
also as people say different ROMs work better, the one i currently use works VERY well, i enjoy it

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about ROMs though, i have to agree with the guy on the first page. the flashmore ROM is seriously a smooth manilla 2.5 wm6.5 rom. it impressed me to the point that ive even left topix 2.8 (arguably the fastest blackstone ROM ever) for it.
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Hmm, think I will give Flashmore a try then
Although..I red that the 1.6 Rev3 don't support the landscape modus in the Photo and Music tab? Cause he deleted the Diamond2 Gsensor configuration..?
Thanks everyone for discussing about this subject
EDIT: So I flashed Flashmore 1.6 Rev3.. Ok, manila is fast, but not faster as Mikenificent 7.0 I did install some 3rd apps to test if it would run fast with them..
So back to Mikenificent 7.0 then

[Q] HTC Touch Pro 2 Sense 2.5 ROM for Blackstone?

Hi all,
HTC has released a new version of Sense (2.5, the one with shortcuts on homescreen) for Touch Pro 2 and Touch Diamond 2. My friend has TP2 with the new sense and it was very smooth and fast (it was so fast that it really surprised me alot!), not like the Sense 2.5 ROMs released here which are laggy, slow and for me not ready for everyday use. I wonder if it's possible to have this version of Sense on THD as it has the same hardware as TP2... I also hope someone will make it with WM 6.1 as I don't like 6.5(.x), it would be really awesome

Most of the Manila 2.5s that are used here are from the Topaz Roms...

So why are they so slow? The one I saw on the friend's TP2 was even smoother and faster than old manila 2.1 on my THD and I've tried many 2.1 and 2.5 ROMs so far...
EDIT: I've look randomly in some threads with 2.5 ROMs and all of them said "Sense 2.5 Leo" which means it's from HD2...

it isn't just the manilla version. The TP2 has native WM 6.5 drivers, while our blackstone only has (modified) WM 6.1 drivers. That's the main reason for the Backstone being slower.

And it can't be fixed? Did anyone try just using TP2 drivers on THD? It has the same hardware so it may work and be fast...

I'm not sure, but I think if it was easy to do, someone would have done that a long time ago . I beleave the drivers need to be ported first. The problem is the HD doesn't have the exact same hardware as the Diamond 2 and the TP2; the amount of ROM and RAM are the same, as is the CPU clockspeed, but the chipsets are slightly different. Our blackstone has a Qualcomm 7201A chipset while the D2 and TP2 have the Qualcomm 7200a chipset (topic about this here).
You could try asking your question in the graphics driver development topic over at the rom development board if you want more information about this.

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I'm not sure, but I think if it was easy to do, someone would have done that a long time ago . I beleave the drivers need to be ported first. The problem is the HD doesn't have the exact same hardware as the Diamond 2 and the TP2; the amount of ROM and RAM are the same, as is the CPU clockspeed, but the chipsets are slightly different. Our blackstone has a Qualcomm 7201A chipset while the D2 and TP2 have the Qualcomm 7200a chipset (topic about this here).
You could try asking your question in the graphics driver development topic over at the rom development board if you want more information about this.
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I know this isn't quite what you guys were talking about but the TP2 (Rhodium) does have significantly different hardware to the HD: it has a hardware keyboard. I only point this out as it's indicative of the differences between the 2 devices. If the same software were released with specififc drivers to fit the 2 different sets of hardware they'd perform pretty similarly, but the HD has been left behind in support for WM 6.5. As a result Rhodium based roms (like my own rom) have to use 'hacks' or mods to get simple things like the volume keys to work correctly with the latest Sense manila builds. Ironically the HD2 has very similar hardware to the HD but is considerably more powerful; Leo based roms are designed to fit within a power range beyond anything the HD was ever designed to achieve, so they can suffer from slowdown.
It's a matter of personal taste with roms. The HD reached the pinnacle of it's support from HTC with manila (TF3D) 1.3 and WM 6.1 so that should be the ideal for perfromance. Manila 2.0 and 2.1 seem to work fast and well though, thanks to the good people of XDA and the other sites. Similarly WM 6.5 functions just fine on the HD. 6.5.x lacks drivers for certain functions (volume control). As for manila (Sense 2.5) the HD was never supported, though it seems to run fine but a little slow in places (HTC messaging probably bening the low point). My roms use Rhodium 2.5 manila because I find it to be faster. I have performed no benchmarking, just user experience, to come to this conclusion. It makes sense though when you accept that removing a few tabs will inevitably speed things up (documents, ereader and footprints are Leo exclusive for now) and that the Rhodium and Topaz 2.5 manila builds are (theoretically) optimized for non-snapdragon processors.

Well, I think I won't care about this stuff any more. HD is "outdated" and can't have Sense running really smooth and fast. I'll stick with classic today plugins (SPB Pocket Plus have tabs and switching between them is much faster than any manila/sense) replacing the functionality of manila thanks anyway for answers

cooked rom (t_mobile)

hi im new at this stuff, and i must say their are some real good cooked rom here, but i was wondering are they any cooked rom in here that gear toward T-mobile touc pro 2 phone with sense 2.6 and has the t-mobile settings. so pretty much t-mobile stuff with addition to the sense 2.6. thanks in advance

See this thread.

thanks alot, that really help out... also do you have one with the sense 2.6 or going to have one? but the one you have now will do for now, thanks again

tiaskew said:
thanks alot, that really help out... also do you have one with the sense 2.6 or going to have one? but the one you have now will do for now, thanks again
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I had no idea sense 2.6 existed.

toadlife said:
I had no idea sense 2.6 existed.
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yeah im not sure either, i just been seeing on some post that says 2.6, but i dont much about this things
found info here http://pocketnow.com/software-1/touchflo-3d-26-manila-26-tour

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yeah im not sure either, i just been seeing on some post that says 2.6, but i dont much about this things
found info here http://pocketnow.com/software-1/touchflo-3d-26-manila-26-tour
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I see. The HD ROM I made for my wife actually has that version of Sense. I never knew it "2.6". Just thought it was the latest versions of Sense 2.5.

I may be wrong, but from what I read, 2.6 is just 2.5 for the TI OMAP Processors as it has a different graphics chip require a different texture formating. Where 2.5 uses an ATI texture format because Qualcomm chips have an ATI Graphics processor.
NOTE: When AMD bought out ATI, they sold the mobile graphics devision of ATI to Qualcomm.

how do you install this ".7z" file on the phone
oh never mind i figure it out

[Q] HTC Sense for HTC Touch 3G

Hi,
I'm new here, but I have HTC Touch 3G, there is a chance to install the Theme Sense from HTC in HTC Touch 3G?
I have Windows Mobile 6.1 there is any chance to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5 or Higher? I have a processor at 528MHZ and 123.4 MB of RAM.
Thanks for any help,
Antonio

neto_pf said:
Hi,
I'm new here, but I have HTC Touch 3G, there is a chance to install the Theme Sense from HTC in HTC Touch 3G?
I have Windows Mobile 6.1 there is any chance to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5 or Higher? I have a processor at 528MHZ and 123.4 MB of RAM.
Thanks for any help,
Antonio
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u can upgrade to wm 6.5
i use htc s620 and WM6.5

There is any site besides the official one (HTC) where I can download? And safely

i saw only manila 3D works on touch-3g
i don't know there is a QVGA versioan of sense on not (maybe no)
see here for TF3D: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766612

So Easy
hiiii
about wm 6.5 it is very easy go to this thread and download toch 3g hard spl unlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843638
and u can use any rom fro here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=463
but i really like this one it is fast and stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663194
download the new version v10
but be careful as when u use hard spl to unlock your phone u will lose mobile warranty so u should read the topic carefully
and about htc sense sory but till now there is no hope for if or even touchflo 3d as our touch 3g dosen't have 3d accelerator

drmidoo said:
and about htc sense sory but till now there is no hope for if or even touchflo 3d as our touch 3g dosen't have 3d accelerator
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ur 3G have 3D accelator
i tested TF3D on that device... the onlt problem was speed.it was very bad
that link that i said is for Touch-viva wich doesn't have 3D Acce...
try that.it's easy

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ur 3G have 3D accelator
i tested TF3D on that device... the onlt problem was speed.it was very bad
that link that i said is for Touch-viva wich doesn't have 3D Acce...
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well i don't know for sure about the 3d accelerator but i really know that tf3d isn't working well on my touch 3g sometimes it very slow and other times it just stop working