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So here's my quandry. My PC crashed with all of my contacts on it. Fortunately, my Kaiser is quite healthy. So I bought a new PC with Vista on it and would like to transfer my contacts from the Kaiser to the PC.
Microsoft, on the other hand, had other ideas. Despite coming with a Contacts program in Vista, Windows Mobile Device Center won't let my sync to it, I must sync to Outlook. I don't like spending hundreds of dollars more for Outlook, because I just bought a new laptop and I'm broke!
I know I can get Windows Live Mail to my hotmail, pocket pc, and vista together, but all of my contacts are stored in pocket outlook, with no way that I know of to import them into Windows Live. I tried using this program:
http://pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1479
which will extract my contact info into a .CSV file that I can import into hotmail, but hotmail won't identify the file properly (so close!)
Does anybody know a way to get my contacts off my phone without typing them out one by one?
http://us20.trymicrosoftoffice.com/default.aspx
Use the free outlook licence/disk that came with your phone?
I am thinking about buying a Tytn II (Kaiser). I run Windows XP Pro but I do not run MS Office or Outlook (which are not even installed on my PC) or Internet Explorer (which is). Instead I use OpenOffice (open source freeware), Thunderbird (ditto) and Firefox (ditto). I refuse to pay for MS Office or Outlook. How may I sync my Kaiser to my PC - address book, documents, bookmarks etc. ?
Seems a shame that such a wonderful sounding machine is tied to Outlook and MS Office
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Hmmm...Windows Mobile=Microsoft
MS Office/Outlook=Microsoft
ERGO...you're stuck!
As mentioned already Microsoft's synching solutions Activesync or WMDC are for Microsoft apps only (although it baffles me that it won't even synch to native Windows apps such as address book or Outlook Express). There is some releief in that not having a recent version of Outlook installed doesn't grey out Favourites, Files or Media so you should still be able to sync these fine. There are third party products around that offer a greater amount of synching compatibility. Perhaps others who are using the apps you mentioned have experience or can name names. Additionally, perhaps those application suppliers can advise on solutions, if they're aware of any....
I was in a similar situation but I use Thunderbird only for storing my emails.
I saw in another post a link to:
www.goosync.com
I found the Google-calendar quite useful (can be opened in Thunderbird). With Goosync you can free-of-charge sync your Google-calendar (with restrictions). For some money you can also sync tasks and the address-book.
Have a look. Maybe it's something for you. Maybe not.
bye,
basinger
I sync my contacts directly to my hotmail account without the use of outlook but then again hotmail - microsoft.
It seems that you can't use Windows Mobile Device Center to sync from pc to HD7 phone, it has to be done via a hotmail/windows live account. I really cannot understand why many developers and the might of Microsoft deem it a wise move. Apart from security issues of putting lots of data in to the cloud, the process seems to be impossible to use efficiently. I am finding some contacts with a company name longer than a set number of characters will not fully sync, and there seems to be a limit to the amount of information for a contact. Is this really progress? Does anyone know of any third party apps which enable the sync between outlook and a WP7 phone? Even after the initial sync of contacts and calendar to my windows live hotmail account, which itself took ages, it seems a long while before any changes made on one appear on the other. I am seriously thinking of returning my HD7 - a great pity as WP7 seemed to promise so much. It is most certainly NOT aimed at the business user. Nokia, for all its faults, has a much better program for syncing a Nokia with Outlook, as does iTunes! Even Android has some degree of pc-phone syncing. Anyone got any helpful ideas?
Have patience and give it a try. I too didn't like the new method but once I had pruned my contacts removing unwanted stuff from the notes field it did copy over.
I now have it set up using emails and calander from my exchange account, email from 2 hotmail accounts, with contacts comming from my main hotmail account i set up yesterday.
It was strange at first but I've converted quickly.
P.S just discoved the APPLICATION tab in SETTINGS where you can rename the live tiles too
Thanks xma1e, I'm pleased to hear I'm not the only one to find it awkward. Do you know if there is a limit on the number of people you can have, and also what the limit on size of notes is?
Hampshire PDA said:
Even after the initial sync of contacts and calendar to my windows live hotmail account, which itself took ages, it seems a long while before any changes made on one appear on the other.
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I thought I'd give the Windows Live services a try before moving all my emails and contacts from Google Apps.
I set up a couple of accounts on Windows Live Domains to replace my Google Apps accounts and the first hurdle I hit was not being able to setup an alias email address. Email from only one address (primary) can be received. Email forwarding can't be configured from the domain host because Windows MX servers are handling the email.
The 2nd issue, setting up calendar sharing would always fail. And this wasn't just with the new accounts, two test accounts I setup over a week ago were still failing when setting up calendar sharing between the two. So back to Google Apps for me.
The above issue weren't specific to me, Googling showed lots of users affected.
I might be going off topic but I'm annoyed MS are pushing "the cloud" eveywhere yet the features aren't complete or broken. What took me around 8 hours to setup and configure on Windows Live took 8 mins to change back to Google Apps which works 100%.
Also, if you do have shared calendars working on your Hotmail/Live accounts does the HD7 show them? An early beta review of WP7 by Pocketnow showed shared calendars not working.
Inability to sync Outlook from desktop is a massive oversight. Lots of people use Outlook as a PIM on the desktop, without an Exchange back-end. I have been anti-iphone for ages, I gave back my work-issued iphone as not fit for purpose, and bought the TD2 out of my own pocket, but have been anxiously awaiting the HD7.
Whilst the HD7 and Windows Phone OS is blowing me away, it's so quick, slick and easy to use, I am now trying to work out the best option for syncing Outlook automatically.
The standard option from the web, a 4-step sync between
a) Outlook - Google
b) Google - Windows Live in Outlook
c) Windows Live in Outlook - Windows Live Online
Is not an option because I am running 64-bit Outlook that google sync does not support. There are some 3rd-party options to investigate but these will all cost money.
As reply to kougei, I just had a quick scan of Google's website - are you sure about the Google Sync 64 bit Outlook incompatibility, this is what I read off their website...
System requirements:
Requires Google Apps Premier or EDU Edition
Windows XP (32 bit) SP3
Windows Vista (32 bit) SP1
Windows Vista (64 bit) SP1
Windows 7 (32 and 64 bit)
Microsoft Outlook 2003® SP3
Microsoft Outlook 2007® SP2 (or SP1 with hotfix)
Microsoft Outlook 2010® (32 and 64 bit)
- https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync
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I don't use Google myself, but I was just wondering whether you may have missed an update saving a lot of money and possibly frustration?
kougei said:
The standard option from the web, a 4-step sync between
a) Outlook - Google
b) Google - Windows Live in Outlook
c) Windows Live in Outlook - Windows Live Online
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Use Outlook Connector to sync between Outlook to Window Live if you don't need your data in Google.
Outlook Connector is part of the Window Live Essentials pack.
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an alias email address
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If you have moved your own domain to Live as I have, what you have to do is create a new user that is the alias you want, then set that user to forward email to your primary address. That is what Microsoft tell you to do, and it works just fine.
To the OP - you're living in the past! It's all about the cloud now, move all your stuff onto the cloud.
If you move to the Live services (and you can put your own domain into Live for free) you benefit from all the syncing of calendars, contacts and email for no cost. Outlook has the Live connector which you use to push all your existing email, contacts and calendars to Live and then collects new email coming in.
In terms of delivery speed - if someone sends me an email I get it at the same time on my phone, Outlook, live web interface...
If you can't use the Live set of services for whatever reason, you can look at a hosted Exchange server. There are plenty of them about and will give you the best possible experience and integration with WP7, Outlook and web based email. One who I do not use personally but I have recommended to others who find it works perfectly (Though nobody I know who uses it is on wp7 yet, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work as it's just Exchange server) is mail2web, though it isn't free.
DaWolfey said:
If you have moved your own domain to Live as I have, what you have to do is create a new user that is the alias you want, then set that user to forward email to your primary address. That is what Microsoft tell you to do, and it works just fine.
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I did setup a secondary account to forward email to the primary account. But I couldn't see an option to completely disable junk mail filtering so I could never be sure ALL email was forwarded to the primary inbox for me to filter. And with Live Mail's slow and unreliable POP3 importing from other accounts I didn't trust the secondary account to forward emails as soon as they arrived.
To make sure I was getting all my email from the secondary account I could have added the account to my mobile device but I wanted to keep things simple.
adrian-polglase said:
As reply to kougei, I just had a quick scan of Google's website - are you sure about the Google Sync 64 bit Outlook incompatibility, this is what I read off their website...
I don't use Google myself, but I was just wondering whether you may have missed an update saving a lot of money and possibly frustration?
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It looks like a Premiere account costs $50 a year,whereas standard free google calendar sync is definitely outlook 2010 32-bit only at the moment. I dont use any aspect of google services currently,so will look at other solutions rather than spending $50 every year.
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Use Outlook Connector to sync between Outlook to Window Live if you don't need your data in Google.
Outlook Connector is part of the Window Live Essentials pack.
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Nope, all that does is allow you to see a view of windows live mail, contacts, calendar entities within outlook, and use them directly in outlook, in sync.
It does not sync or interact with the default outlook entities that are part of your local pst file.
kougei said:
It looks like a Premiere account costs $50 a year,whereas standard free google calendar sync is definitely outlook 2010 32-bit only at the moment. I dont use any aspect of google services currently,so will look at other solutions rather than spending $50 every year.
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Google Apps Premier has a free 30 day trial. I've upgraded my wife's account to premier as she prefers to read her email in Outlook. The premier app sync email, contacts and mutiple calendars and even allows Outlook to display the mutiple calendars side by side.
However the OP wanted to sync Outook to Windows Live which can be done free using Outlook Connector instead of paying £40 for a Google Apps Premier account.
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It does not sync or interact with the default outlook entities that are part of your local pst file.
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You're right, forgot to mention that. But the OP can copy and paste all contacts and calendar entries from the local calendar to the live calendar in one go and from there sync to the phone.
I can live with manually maintaining contacts but i work dynamically with my calendar in local pst via meeting requests, etc. not practical to manually maintain a second calendar. Lets hope either microsoft or google release a free update soon.
Others are finding the same problems as I am. It seems to update the contacts OK if I put a new entry or edit an entry in Outlook. But I am having to update the calendar manually. I really can't believe this is what Microsoft intend - does someone have a way of getting the calendar to sync as well please?
HTC HD7 with WM7 - there is no provision to synchronise with microsoft outlook using Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Centre.
Alternate way of using Exchange Activesync does look complicated
Please address the issue
This has been Answered
There are some workarounds & a 3rd party app, the solutions have been posted and can be easily found with a simple search (here is a hint, CompanionLink for outlook, Windows Live Connector, Gmail Sync). This is a very hot issue and I suspect there will be more solutions forthcomming
Cheers
BR
namasivayam said:
HTC HD7 with WM7 - there is no provision to synchronise with microsoft outlook using Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Centre.
Alternate way of using Exchange Activesync does look complicated
Please address the issue
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I got these answers when I posted on social.answers.Microsoft.com
2 Easy Ways to Sync Outlook with HTC HD7
http://www.pubarticles.com/article-2-easy-ways-to-sync-outlook-with-htc-hd7-1289546168.html
Sync Windows Phone 7 with Outlook
http://www.companionlink.com/windowsphone/outlook/
I recommend posting or looking for WP7 related questions there as they've got a lot of MS employees that answer questions.
My Milage
I tried the Hotmail connector, I had some issues, it seemed to have problems dealing with more than 250 contacts. I am using the Demo version of CompanionLink and syncing to my gmail acct and that is working very nicely.
cheers
BR
I followed method two from the two ways to sync and worked just fine. I kind of like getting away from Outlook anyway. Hotmail/Windows Live is great since it can used through any computer contected to the internet to update contacts, phone numbers, etc. But I could see if this is an issue if you primarily use Outlook.
2 Easy Ways to Sync Outlook with HTC HD7
http://www.pubarticles.com/article-2...289546168.html
The problem I have is my company isn't running Exchange so for me to get my calendar and contacts I need a way to sync with Outlook.
I've tried Hotmail Connector and it works well for a one time sync but if you have a lot of changes to your calendar I have to make the changes in Outlook and Hotmail.
I refuse to pay $40 for something that should work out of the box.
PaullikesWINMO said:
I followed method two from the two ways to sync and worked just fine. I kind of like getting away from Outlook anyway. Hotmail/Windows Live is great since it can used through any computer contected to the internet to update contacts, phone numbers, etc. But I could see if this is an issue if you primarily use Outlook.
2 Easy Ways to Sync Outlook with HTC HD7
http://www.pubarticles.com/article-2...289546168.html
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Yup. Had all my Outlook contact on my phone the sec I imported the file into Windows Live. I was surprised at how fast everthing setup. I am really like the WP7.
hi all, I'm a new user HD7 ( four hour ago) I syncro with Outlook connector without problems 800 contacts and appointments...
thanks for your help
alabij said:
I got these answers when I posted on social.answers.Microsoft.com
2 Easy Ways to Sync Outlook with HTC HD7
http://www.pubarticles.com/article-2-easy-ways-to-sync-outlook-with-htc-hd7-1289546168.html
Sync Windows Phone 7 with Outlook
http://www.companionlink.com/windowsphone/outlook/
I recommend posting or looking for WP7 related questions there as they've got a lot of MS employees that answer questions.
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Unfortunately, both are cloud solutions, which are unacceptable to me for both security and privacy.
If the WM7 device were seen as an external storage device (apparently doable via the registry), does anyone know whether this could faciliate a direct USB sync with Outlook 2010 32-bit?
Both solutions are OK for a one off copy of Calender & Contacts but do not perform a true contniuous Sync with Outlook and do not handle TASKS
MarkAtHome said:
Unfortunately, both are cloud solutions, which are unacceptable to me for both security and privacy.
If the WM7 device were seen as an external storage device (apparently doable via the registry), does anyone know whether this could faciliate a direct USB sync with Outlook 2010 32-bit?
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if you are not ready to play with the cloud, I don't think wp7 is for you. They seem very serious about making the cloud an integral part of the OS going forward.
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if you are not ready to play with the cloud, I don't think wp7 is for you. They seem very serious about making the cloud an integral part of the OS going forward.
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If you can explain how I get my outlook onto the cloud well you have me.
Is there no place like WinMo6.5x like "Microsoft My Phone" ?
with an live.xx ID
Wolf
wolfwolf said:
Is there no place like WinMo6.5x like "Microsoft My Phone" ?
with an live.xx ID
Wolf
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no microsoft myphone. All syncing goes through your live email address (like hotmail). For me, I had all my contact info on gmail because of playing on android with my hd2.
1. Logged into hotmail
2. clicked on import contacts under the contacts view
3. Clicked on gmail and followed the instructions
Took about 10 minutes.
For outlook I'm pretty sure you can do something similar, though I think you might need outlook connector from the marketplace to bridge it over from outlook to hotmail. You will only have to do this once, but then I guess your outlook will not be a syncable acct on you phone.
Just looked on my hotmail and it says to export your outlook contacts to a file that you can then upload to hotmail.
I'm a Windows Mobile User for 2 years now (SE Xperia X1) and loved the way I can sync it with outlook.
I have all my contacts (approx 500) in outlook and also use the calendar (+5000 items)
I've spent some time in the past to get the info on my contacts straight and I'm very disappointed about the lack of synchronisation options between WP7 and outlook.
Why does everything needs to be cloud-based.
I don't sync every day, but neither use outlook on everyday basis.
I never experienced syncing problems on either calender/notes/contacts or mail.
I have read something about features that will be added in the near future into WP7 and hope that local outlook synchronisation is one of them.
Hi guys,
I`m new to WM7 and i`m trying t sync my contacts as well. I don`t use Outlook and idon`t have an account.Is there any other way to get my contacts on te phone?
Thanks
So the windows 7 software allows syncing to google calender, email and contacts?
I'm stunned that there is no native support for Outlook synchronization with Exchange - this is old school and what I consider a core component of any smartphone I purchase.
I've just bought a HD7 assuming it would have this functionality (why would I check for this on a Windows phone, next I'll need to check the thing makes calls), guess I'm going to have to sell it on.
There maybe Third party solutions but I can't imagine they're ever going to work as well as a direct sync with the Exchange server in my office, giving Contacts, Tasks, Calendar Items, etc.
Absolutely gutted.
B
Of course there's native support.
If you have an exchange server, you have ZERO to worry about.
The issue is people who use Outlook for Pop and Imap. Or people who just use it for tasks and contacts. Without a Hotmail Connector, there is no way to interface with Outlook like the old school Active Sync did.
Again though, If you have Exchange, it works exactly like it does on any other platform, if not better. The only thing lacking right now is Tasks.
Jimbonics,
I could kiss you. My wife wouldn't like it (and neither would you most likely, I'm stubbly)
I've been reading phone forums, reviews and specs for what seems like months trying to choose the right phone (offline voice command via bluetooth is essential for me but Android doesn't do it and other devices have flaky support) so I skim read this thread: my bad.
Thanks for making my day.
B
See bellow post
never mind, the http://myphone.microsoft.com only works with WM6.
Ok so how can help me get my full contacts, music and pictures from my HD2 to the new phone.
Very retarted I must add. There should be a simple application that allows you to transfer all that data to ur comp or some other place and then back to the new phone, no matter what the os version is like Nokia has.
Please help
Here's what i did:
1. first create a windows live account online
2. sync all your contacts to outlook (use active sync for xp) by connecting ur hd2
3. convert ALL contacts through outlook - access FILE, IMPORT EXPORT, choose EXPORT A NEW FILE, choose Comma Separate Values (windows), then type in preferred file name (take note of file location in ur pc)
4. log in to windows live account, go to contacts page and import the contacts by accessing the file you exported from Outlook.
5. activate your phone's DATA or WIFI connection, and set-up/turn on your windows live account on your hd7.
6. once complete, all contacts should sync on your hd7!
The process is lenghty and i prefer direct sync from outlook similar to WM6.5 but i think Microsoft wants to promote windows live.
Hope this helps!
** btw, for pictures and music, i believe the best way is to use ZuneSW on your pc or use the MAC connector if you're using mac (like me!). both can be downloaded through windows website, just "bing it"!
bluegreenwhite said:
Here's what i did:
1. first create a windows live account online
2. sync all your contacts to outlook (use active sync for xp) by connecting ur hd2
3. convert ALL contacts through outlook - access FILE, IMPORT EXPORT, choose EXPORT A NEW FILE, choose Comma Separate Values (windows), then type in preferred file name (take note of file location in ur pc)
4. log in to windows live account, go to contacts page and import the contacts by accessing the file you exported from Outlook.
5. activate your phone's DATA or WIFI connection, and set-up/turn on your windows live account on your hd7.
6. once complete, all contacts should sync on your hd7!
The process is lenghty and i prefer direct sync from outlook similar to WM6.5 but i think Microsoft wants to promote windows live.
Hope this helps!
** btw, for pictures and music, i believe the best way is to use ZuneSW on your pc or use the MAC connector if you're using mac (like me!). both can be downloaded through windows website, just "bing it"!
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Thank you for the reply.
Two problems
Cant sync with Outlook, have it installed, set up accounts when I connect my HD2 to it, it tells me that out look is not my default email program, even though its set to be, i checked, then when I go into settings it only lets me sink notes and some other crap, not contacts.
So I used the windows live to sink, or what I though was windows live. but its for V6 only. ( very retarted on microsofts part)
When you log into windows live, it has nothing to do with your phone.windows account.
I cant get zune to install either, gives me a net frame error, even though net frame is up to date.
Im running windows 7, with all latest updates.
Im not idiot when it comes to computer, but man windows is making it tough to do simple things.
I just tried to install that stupid software for the cloud, it would not install any o fit either, cant figure out what is going on.
You guys make things to hard. add the windows live account to your hd2 and have it sync then add the win live account to your hd7. You can also use gmail thru activesync on the hd2 and it will give you an option to sync gmail contacts on the hd7
Never thought of that before! I only opened a windows live account when i transitioned to HD7. I used the hard way (outlook sync), it's great that u suggested an easier one.
Thanks!
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You guys make things to hard. add the windows live account to your hd2 and have it sync then add the win live account to your hd7. You can also use gmail thru activesync on the hd2 and it will give you an option to sync gmail contacts on the hd7
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Tried the Gmail version when I first got the HD2 and it did not give me option of which way to sync, it saw my gmail account had no contacts and cleared them all off.
Either way, I think microsoft should develop a simple back up and sync system, without having to use outlook or windows live, i dont use either way on a daily basis.
Sik96teG said:
You guys make things to hard. add the windows live account to your hd2 and have it sync then add the win live account to your hd7. You can also use gmail thru activesync on the hd2 and it will give you an option to sync gmail contacts on the hd7
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Just tried your idea, went to Windows Live on HD2, logged in, on sync options only option is to show windows live contacts on phone, not vice versa, do a sync, log on to my live account via pc, no contacts shown.
have you actually done this? or just going of of theory?
You should use ActiveSync on your old WM device to connect to your Live/Hotmail-account.
It will sync your phone contacts to your live account which then will show up in your WP7 device.
It worked for me, even though I don't have a hotmail-address.
http://windowslivehelp.com/solution.aspx?solutionid=46bd910c-ed99-497d-80d7-ab8b11237ed0