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I had a new TyTN II Delivered from orange after mine was nabbed at the weekend, and i locked it remotely. When i make a call now all is hunky dory, but whilst in that call if i go to press START for example nothing will happen, so again i try another way and press X to go to the today screen to then press start, Nothing happens.
I inform my caller ill call them back, and end the call by either pressing "End Call" or pressing the Red Button, and then instantly the Back light defaults to a very low setting, and it did NOT do this on my previous TyTN II.
I have spent a fair while looking through here and google (and also MoDaCo Forums) trying to find a solution. I only know of one other person on MoDaCo who has the problem, and i have tried hard reset on the device too to no avail.
It is a Orange HTC TyTN II, so i have called them also for advice and they know about as much about it as i do.
This is a plea for someone here maybe to lend me a hand and sort this out, otherwise its going to collide with the nearest large surface in the next few days ha ha.
Thanks again for reading, and I hope someone can help me!
Sean Saunders
screen off
I select don't blank/turn screen off in a call, as I often want to enter dtmfs for mailboxes, or conf calls, downside uses a bit more battery
Hi mgr2003.
I have these options set, and it doesnt make a blind bit of difference unfortunately. I was hoping for some kind of CAB file for a fix? I dont know whats wrong with this device but its not as good as my previous TyTN II.
Sean
This question keeps being asked about once every week since the TyTNII came out. Sorry, but it is getting a bit annoying....
Once again: it´s caused by a bug in the HTC ROM and happens when a device password is set and the backlight times out during a call. Solution: disable the device password or - if you want to keep the password - push the power button twice after a call and you are back in business.....
That would be an all well and good answer but i do not have a password set on my device, so the answer doesnt justify?
Cheers for the Advice though.
Sean
I also have that problem with my tilt....when i am on a call the screen turns off..How can i disable this?
In that case I apologize for my somewhat rude reply. Your problem description just seemed to fit that bug exactly....
Sorry, have no idea what else may be causing that behaviour. Good luck, and if you manage to fix your issue be sure to let us know!
Did you use Kaiser Tweak to disable fast sleep?
Hi
I havent done anything to the device, it is exactly as shipped by OrangeUK. Its only 3 days old now, so not even had a second to do anything but use it.
Sean
I have an Orange TYTN II and this bugged me too.
Download Kaiser Tweak http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
Follow instructions on thread and disable Fast Sleep (advised)
Normal Backlight and Power Settings will still be active
Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks
cweems said:
Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks
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I dont know if it helps, but try to disable the notification for new sms.
ill try that... but i do still want sound
think im jus outta luck, ill jus have to deal w/ it.
it bothers the hell out of me too.
i wish there was a fix.
In order for there to be a "fix," it has to be broken first. This is how it was designed. When you get a message the phone wakes and receives the message. Therefore, the screen lights up. So there is no "fix," its functioning as designed. Though if anyone knows of "tweak" you may be able to change it. But I really don't think there is a way.
wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live
cweems said:
wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live
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There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.
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There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.
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lol not everywants their screen to light up when somthing comes in, everyone wants thier car to turn left when they turn the wheel left.
cant believe we r goin this far about a word, but im not quitting!!
Definitions of fix...
1. to repair; mend.
2. to put in order or in good condition; adjust or arrrange: She fixed her hair in a bun.
3. to make fast, firm, or stable.
4. to place definitely and more or less permanently: to fix a circus poster to a wall.
5. to settle definitely; determine: to fix a price.
6. to direct (the eyes, the attention, etc.) steadily: His eyes were fixed on the distant ship.
7. to attract and hold (the eye, the attention, etc.).
8. to make set or rigid.
9. to put into permanent form.
10. to put or place (responsibility, blame, etc.) on a person.
11. to assign or refer to a definite place, time, etc.
12. to provide or supply with (something needed or wanted): How are you fixed for money?
13. Informal. to arrange or influence the outcome or action of, esp. privately or dishonestly: to fix a jury; to fix a game.
14. to get (a meal); prepare (food): What time shall I fix supper?
15. Informal. to put in a condition or position to make no further trouble.
16. Informal. to get even with; get revenge upon: I'll fix him!
so from these examples it obviously means something doesnt have to be broken to be fixed. could mean many things, and im using number 2, adjust or arrange. like it says, doesnt mean the girls hair was broken, she jus didnt like it so she fixed it to make it better.
FIX my screen from lighting up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha
I think it is a problem. My back light goes on from an email and stays on till the battery dies or I notice it. I have to be careful and check it frequently or I get a dead phone by lunch. I need the backlight to do what I setup in the power settings - I think it should be turning itself off. It ain't.
u changed it under power settings and under backlight settings?? def shouldnt stay on toooo long!
ki think we are outta luck here. I have the same problem.
I just have to lock the device from having anything accidently turn on
look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jsd2 said:
look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
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Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?
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Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.
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Thank heavens I am not the only one. I thought someone from xda made a secret competition and the winner will be the one that have the most complains on his phone. If u dont like your phone, buy another one that suites u better then this one. Sorry for being so b*tchy.
JimmyMcGee said:
Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call. ...
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Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
maxh said:
Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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Interesting. I'm sure there is something that could be done. I'd be willing to look into it. But I'd need a Samsung i760 to see if I could pull any info or software from it. So if anyone has a Samsung i760 they'd like to give me for development purposes of course, I'd see if we could figure out how to make this happen.
BTW, My phone does turn on the screen when I get an email.
maxh said:
Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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ok, good point. Have u tried some sms applications? Maybe they have the option to not to turn the screen on. (just a suggestion).
If this ever happens to you, you have a bad phone and should return it. I really hate it when MY phone wakes up and decides to randomly call someone in Hong Kong.
Seriously - I have to understand this - you really honestly think that your phone can wake up and call someone, or email someone, or SMS someone without you doing something?
Bill
jsd2 said:
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
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I figured someone might know of a way to change the few little things that annoy me with my TyTn II. Ive had it for a while and pretty much only use it as a phone, now I have more free time to play around with it, and searching through threads & accroynms I'm starting to figure out what everyone it talking about.
Here are the few things that but me.
After a call screen locking bug - but I found a thread and fix for it, sad that HTC still hasnt fixed it though.
SMS sent notification - I seriously wish it wouldnt tell me the message has been sent and I can hit dismiss or doing something else and it goes away, but it still pops up and gets in the way.
New SMS - most phones you can click a button to stop the vibration or sound, I dont like how it vibrates non stop for a very long time and or I have to wait for the sounds to finish it, I cant cancel it by click the phone end button or any button for that matter. I have a sound that is kind of long, its funny, but I dont always want to listen to it all the way through.
Anyone know of registery fixes or programs/patches please let me know! Thanks
Try this to disable the SMS Sent notifications
can be uninstalled via remove programs too if you want them back
let me know if it works (it works for me on my hermes)
Thanks I'll try tonight when I get back home.
Also I wonder if its a setting, but FF at home and IE7 at work, when I try to click on quick reply and try to click any of the icons, it wont active, I normally have to click on quote to be able to reply, I didnt think it was a setting in my user CP, and two different PC/Browsers wasnt sure what the problem is.
Um.. why not just download KAISER TWEAK. It has all those annoying options in there so you can tweak them yourself. Do a search for it.
Kaisertweek does fix most of the issues you are talking about and you don't even need to search, all you have to do is LOOK at the first page of the Kasier general forum, it is one of the stickies on the first page.
Good luck with your Kaiser
Ok this fixed most of my issues. I got to check out something else tomorrow and see if I'm still having the problem.
If my diamond is in standby mode for awhile and i make a phone call, i don´t hear anything. I must reset my diamond to use it for a correct phone call. Does someone have the same problem and hopefully have a solution? Thanks!
Do know how long it has to be in standby for? And is it reproducable every time?
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Do know how long it has to be in standby for? And is it reproducable every time?
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It is different: sometimes 15min sometimes 1h. After a reset it works longer but then i have the same problem again. Just now my diamond was in standby for a 1h and didn´t work correctly.
Using the 1.37 and 1.00.25.03
I tried to upgrade to 1.00.25.05 with the offical htc rom upgrade but always said my battery is less 50% and the installation process stops.
And presumably your battery is over 50%?
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And presumably your battery is over 50%?
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Just tried before again. But the same less 50% power warning message and stopping installation issue. My power settings told me 100% fully loaded.
Same problem
Same problem here, drives me crazy. I didn't link the problem to the phone being standby though.
I sometimes have it after receiving a message, sometimes after a whole night of inactivity, sometimes not at all after a day...
But in all cases all audio stops and a soft reset is the only solution...
Related threads (without solutions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420606&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424648
Same problem here It's only happened after a night of no activity (two nights in a row). I have to soft reset to fix the problem ...
binzelli said:
Same problem here, drives me crazy. I didn't link the problem to the phone being standby though.
I sometimes have it after receiving a message, sometimes after a whole night of inactivity, sometimes not at all after a day...
But in all cases all audio stops and a soft reset is the only solution...
Related threads (without solutions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420606&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424648
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here is maybe solution : tested this morning and no problet yet but it's batter to test more days
SOLUTION
Some users of HTC Touch Diamond, the latest Windows Mobile 6.1-powered Pocket PC Phone, may encounter an obscure and weird problem when receiving SMS (also known as text message) while HTC Touch Diamond device is in StandBy mode with LCD screen powers off.
The symptom may be different from phone to phone, but the following scenario roughly describes the problem that faced by HTC Touch Diamond PPC Phone user. When the phone is in inactive stand by mode with screen off, the phone does not notify owner or user when by ringing ringtone or SMS tone sound or audio alert, nor vibrating the device when there is any incoming text message or SMS message. Only 5-way keypad light is blinking.
Sometimes, the device does play sound or vibrate, but not both together. Only keypad light flashing is confirmed to work properly. Some users also reported that if there is already new existing unread SMS text messages on the Touch Diamond phone, then the audio ring tone sound alert and/or vibration then work properly when there is new incoming SMS message.
The issue can cause HTC Touch Diamond owner to miss some important SMS text messages. It appears that the no audio alert sounds and no vibration (not even a delay trigger) issue after receiving SMS or text message is probably not caused by defective phone device, but caused by specific SIM card for unknown reason, as the issue happens intermittently, and may not happen when changing to different mobile service provider SIM card. One SIM card that been identified is Hong Kong SmartOne SIM card.
For HTC Touch Diamond who facing the no alert been made on incoming SMS while in stand by mode issue, but can’t change the SIM card, here’s a few possible resolutions that may fix the problem.
First of all, make sure that the phone is correctly configured to playback audio or sound alert or vibrating. Go to Start Menu, then select Settings. On Personal tab, tap on Sounds & Notifications, and go to Notifications tab. In the “Event” drop down list, select Messaging: New test message. Verify that either Play sound or Vibrate or both is selected.
On the same screen (Notifications), as a workaround to fix the issue, try to tap to tick the check box for Display message on screen.
If above resolution doesn’t help to make the phone notifies you via sound alert or vibration when receiving text message while in sleep mode, another possible fix is to enable SMS Wake Up Event. To do so, download and install a registry editor on the HTC Touch Diamond Windows Mobile device (such as PHM Registry Editor, see workaround to install PHM on Windows Mobile 6). Navigate to the following registry key branch:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
Locate DisableSMSWakeUpEvent entry, and change its value to 0 (the value is 1 by default).
All else fails, you may have to try to perform a hard reset on the HTC Touch Diamond, and send the device to HTC service center for repair or exchange
Did you document this yourself or find this info somewhere? I would be interested to know where its come from, if possible.
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Did you document this yourself or find this info somewhere? I would be interested to know where its come from, if possible.
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http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...to-notify-when-receiving-sms-in-standby-mode/
I have the same problem, except that this happen after i use the BT headset profile (all sound output is redirected to bluetooth headset, and it seems that it won't revert back to original profile after you turn off BT profile) :S
at this moment since my tests my diamond is well
no sound problem
4 HOURS and no sound problem !!!
it will be ok if nothing bad until tomorow
well, thats fair enough if you were experiencing the issue normally within that time.
Was that just from enabling the SMS wake up?
That setting can be changed with Diamond Tweak/Advanced Config/TF3D Config if nobody fancies editing the registry by hand.
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well, thats fair enough if you were experiencing the issue normally within that time.
Was that just from enabling the SMS wake up?
That setting can be changed with Diamond Tweak/Advanced Config/TF3D Config if nobody fancies editing the registry by hand.
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YES WITH TF3D_Config_0.6.7 youcan match in tweaks tab
WAKEUPONNEWSMS
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NOFACEDOWNMUTERING
enjoy, Ive tested yet and all is ok !!
I prefer wai ting until tomorow
oh no !!!!!!
i let my diamon switched on all night and this morning .... no sound !!!!!!!!
I will return my baby to SAV for reparation, but I don't know how many time i'll waiting and I'm worry about finding the same problem when my phone will be back
I had a feeling this might happen...
I've a new one since yesterday and no problem !!!
I'm very happy
I had to send mine in for repair
Has anybody found a solution for this? My Samsung Blackjack II is constantly experiencing this (although soft resets don't fix it - I have to hard-reset and recover from backup). Any help welcome.
I have same issue but the soft reset does not work. I had Mighty Rom 4.8 on it at the time and so I tried flashing back to Bell stock rom but problem persist. Read somewhere flashing to a 6.5 rom might help but not in my case. I tried Mighty 6 rom with no luck. I still have sound though when I plug in my headphones so I'm thinking the speaker may have just died on me? Might have to reflash to bell stock and relock and return as there doesn't seem to be a fix if there is one yet.
I'm pretty annoyed with the beep that my tattoo makes every time a call ends. Now that we have root, has anyone figured which files do we need to edit/delete so we can getr rid of that obnoxious sound? It's not possible to disable it in the Settings, it's there even when Silent mode is enabled.
Edit: Explanation: immediately the other person answers the call, my phone vibrates. That's what I'm referring to as a before-the-call sound.
UPDATE: If anyone wants to disable the welcome screen sound (when the green creature dances around), go to
/system/media/bootscreen/
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(i recommend that you backup the file to sdcard.)
It vibrates so you dont have to hold the phone on your ear and you still know when that person answers...
It's a cool feature.
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It vibrates so you dont have to hold the phone on your ear and you still know when that person answers...
It's a cool feature.
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...and the beep lets you know that the caller has hung up.
coolbits said:
It vibrates so you dont have to hold the phone on your ear and you still know when that person answers...
It's a cool feature.
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it surely will drain considerable amount of battery from tattoo... first of all we are worried that battery back up is not that good (1100 mah)...
@coolbits: r u on a cost cutting mode ??? you think we can reduce the call costs from this ??? what will we do if we come to know that other person hung up the phone or has recieved our call ????
r you so busy so that you make a call and continue working on other things till that person recieves your call ????
please dont get offended by this, all i am saying this is its worthless & with weak battery, this function was not called for..... thats all. i dont have any intention of hurting anyone's sentiments....
i thought of giving you the reasons what we all are thinking about that feature.....
hope someday we have he liberty to choose whether we want it on tattoo or not... otherwise it will not make it as a cool feature on tattoo....
No but it's better not to hold the phone near your head while connecting as at that time it uses more power.
This has nothing to do with any cost and quick vibrate on answer will not drain your battery...
yeah the vibration is cool for me too, but some people might want to disable that too. personally, i'd disable the hang-up tone - it seems really useless as i know when i hang up, lol. i mean, i press the red button and all.
I agree on coolbits on this one. I find the vibrating a very well thought feature. Its not abt cost or anything its just helpful, a little touch that makes life easier .
But we r getting off topic here. If someone could just find out how to modify these would b nice. Theres no point convincing each other that its nice or not because itll be different for each of us.
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I agree on coolbits on this one. I find the vibrating a very well thought feature. Its not abt cost or anything its just helpful, a little touch that makes life easier .
But we r getting off topic here. If someone could just find out how to modify these would b nice. Theres no point convincing each other that its nice or not because itll be different for each of us.
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well said yash09... that was the point i was making out of this topic.... we should have an option of enabling/disabling it... then we can agree that its a customised option for all.....
the vibration is ok but the hung up tone that continues after i hung up is annoying...
i updated the first post because i found a way to disable another annoying system sound.
i am still getting that boot sound even after i deleted that file... what to do ???