Noob Needing Help: Tytn II - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi there, found my old Tytn II lying and decided i wanted to unlock it to use with my current SIM. I searched on ways to unlock it and found the "kaiserunlocker" followed all the steps and hey presto it was unlocked! I was over the moon! That is until i noticed the handset no longer making noises? I have searched and searched again, all the talk of "correct radios" and flashing rom etc has me totally lost, infact the phone wont make calls and is generally very slow?
Please Help!
Glenn.
Ps. sorry for being such a noob

All info you need is in the stickies. Yes sounds like you need to flash a new radio version. Links to get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

i have been in these threads, when doing all the searching etc. I dont know what im doing... im in a total state of confusion now? i dont understand what a rom and a radio is or for that matter an spl?
if i post the device information can someone point me in the right direction?
sorry

This is the place to start, to undersatnd all you want to know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaise
After reading, then come back with specific questions and it will be easier to help once you aquire a knowledge base.

Ok, had a good read there, just tried to make a phone call on the handset there and it didnt work, upon reading about roms, radio roms etc. I believe that the phone has the wrong radio rom, Text Messages are working, but not phone calls,
I looked in this thread as advised - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
But Cant seem to find the below in Bold?
Heres what my phone says in Device Information,
Operator Version: 21.181.1.612
ROM Version: 1.81.61.2 WWE
ROM Date: 09/20/07
Radio Version: 1.65.20.29
Protocol Version:25.88.40.04H
Thanks.
PS. im willing to learn! Thanks for you quick replies!

1.81.61.2 WWE is the ORANGE UK kaiser ROM
The radio looks to be correct for that ROM too, my advice would be to HardSPL it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835 part 1 thru 5 )
Then go get the HTC stock ROM from here ( http://rapidshare.com/files/157469239/Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2.rar ).
The stock ROM above also contains a matched Radio, so this should either cure the problem, or at least give you a clue if it's hardware or software problems you face.

Its working! You guys are superb! Thanks for your help and advice!!

Related

8125 assistance

Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
I am looking for the same thing.
Any one know of any how-to's?
It's very simple.
Connect the phone to your PC with the USB cable
CID unlock the phone
SIM unlock the phone
Double-click the upgrade ROM on your PC - it automatically installs
Restore your settings to your phone
You only need to unlock the CID and SIM once. There's a program called lokiwiz which you can download from this board. It runs in text mode, but it's very simple... just be sure to un-zip it to the root of your C:\ drive (it must be C:\Lokiwiz, don't put it in your Program Files folder).
You run Lokiwiz twice, once to SIM unlock and again to CID unlock. There are several threads here about how to run this software; the only "gotcha" is that it only works on the older software (which your phone has now).
After your install the new ROM, your phone is "factory clean." All of your phone numbers and settings are gone, so you have to restore them.
To restore your settings:
Run ActiveSync to restore your contacts and appointments
Go into the e-mail app to re-configure your e-mail settings
Re-install any add-on software you were using
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
BEWARE OF WIZBACKUP!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53132
you do not need to SIM unlock phone to do a rom update ..
just CID unlock
bign90 said:
Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
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Here is how I started at this site
Start with http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ the wiki pages are a great source for the basics on unlocking, acronyms, general information and questions. It made reading and understanding the threads much easier. I may be a geek but I’m no programmer. I’ve flashed my phone half dozen times & yes I have screwed it up a couple times by not following the instructions, but never “bricked” my phone.
My philosophy has always been RTFM (Read the F___ Manual)…. Well since the Cingular manual and inside scoop on how these HTC phones operate & program was non existent, welcome to the biggest online manual available! It may not be the best organized and simplest to follow, but man there’s a lot of good information here.
Good luck & welcome to the board!!
8)
Thank you lotech for that post...looks like good advice.

Help flashing firmware

Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
Not trying to be rude, but you really need to spend a week or two reading the threads in the "Wizard Upgrading" forum before you even thinking of flashing your Rom.
FYI firmware is for cellphones, Roms are for Windows Mobile Devices.
As to which Rom to use, that depends what you're looking for.
You can go for the latest, the most stable, or one that supports a specific feature. Again this is somethign you really need to read-up on. If you are looking for a specific feature use http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php .
Honestly, you will gain speed and stability with any 2.x Rom.
To use one of the custom Roms you will need to CID unlock your device (search for it) first.
For your first flash you might just want to stick to an official Rom.
First, don't even think of attempting a CID unlock until you figure out if you have a G4 chip or not, unless you want to turn your MDA into a brick. There are other articles on the unlocking forums, as well as the Wizard forums that go into this in detail.
Until this is ironed out, I'd consider paying $40 to the guys at www.imei-check.co.uk. I've not heard any bad press about these guys, so if you want a SIM/CID unlock, go here.
If its freezing up on you, I'd consider backing your stuff on it, doing a hard reset, and restoring it. Make sure you have the data backed up (if ActiveSync doesn't have it, there are other backup utilities which can work well for your MDA you can purchase.) If you are getting freezes with just the factory installed stuff on it, you may have a hardware issue.
Lastly, quite a number of things can be enhanced/fixed without a ROM reflash, so unless T-Mobile USA comes out with new downloadable ROMs, I'd not worry about a reflash just yet.
hieu512 said:
Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
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Sorry for butting in
Well i have this wiza200 tmobile MDA and would also like to Flash it because of speed and performance enhancement my question is when i flash a new rom will it make my phone again sim lock? because right now its already sim unlocked
my wizard came in with the stock rom any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated
Thanks

Help Unlock Radio 1.27.14.32

I've been looking now on how to unlock my orange uk kasier for about 2 weeks. I'm going to use Olipro's or jockyw2001's unlocker BUT in order to do this I need the original radio version of the phone which is 1.27.14.32 I've looked everywhere for this and just cant find it and reading some threads it seems like I'm not the only one. Can some one please help.
As I see it without this radio version I cant unlock my phone and therefore cant add other roms as the phone may sim lock and as this is a works phone I doubt I'll be able to ring myself to get the unlock code and it may raise my firms eye brows when I ring them to do it if I 'balls up' and as I've only had it 2 weeks i understand orange wont provide the codes for a miniumum of 3 months
Please dont flame me, I've read hundreds of posts but just cant seem to find this ( or is there another way round this )
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
check the rom development section and the wiki, you should be able to find a list of radio only flashes including that one.
Thanks Mr B, Cosmic Blue believe me I have looked and this radio is not anywhere.
Mister B when you 'upgraded' your phone could you still get notification of answer phone messages left on your phone, I've 'upgraded' a hermes before which was on orange and never got this function back unless i put a genuine orange rom on it ?
Hard to answer that one. I had my orange answer phone canceled via orange services prior to flashing.
Your other option is to dump the rom from your device & extract the radio to use for reflash
I think you'll find the notification is in the main rom not the radio.
I remember a few people having problems after flashing cooked roms.
Had some posts on this & a cab file with the required dll to fix it.
Might be worth doing a bit of searching on this.
Mister B said:
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
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Everything you wanted to know about radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thanks Mister B, found the orange cab by Rabdo so nearly there now
Denco7 I'd checked that one already and no 1.27.14.32 which is what I'd really like as I know it works well on my tytn ii.
guess I'll have to look into dumping it then
1.27.14.32
I have that radio version (1.27.14.32) in my Orange UK TyTN II. I've dumped the ROM but I can't figure out how to reconstruct just the radio! If someone can help me I will will upload it.
I also had the same radio 1.27.14.32 and could not find it for download but after some reading I came across the Radio Mister B mentions above 1.27.12.32 and it worked fine (including the answer phone notification) with the Dutty rom I was using I think it was the (DualTouch V3). I've since upgraded to the L26 V9 rom with radio 1.58.25.17 and its still working fine, although I haven't had the chance to check answerphone notification.

at&t tilt sound problem after incoming call

hi forum. i have been looking around to solve this problem but i wasn't able to find a solution yet so i am asking here.
i had a tilt working great, i had an accident and the phone is destroyed so i get another one.
it is the same phone but it just don't have the camera, this one came with a new version of windows mobile(6.1).
i am now having this issue, when i get an incoming call and i answer i can't hear anything from the other side and the other side can't hear me either.
after that, the phone gets totally muted, it don't make any more sound when sliding or whatever.
the only way to fix it is reboot the phone, that way i get sound again but after i get an incoming call the problem happens again.
the problem wasn't happening if i made the call but today i made a long call and after a while talking i got a constant buzz, the buzz only stopped after i turned off the phone.
any help will be apreciated as i am totally lost here.
thanks.
Have you tried flashing a different radio or a different ROM?
talking with my vendor it seems that he flashed the rom and maybe the porblem can be the radio.
i am reading here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 but i dont have idea wich radio should i download and either how to make the installation.
my device information is:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
Rom date: 07/17/2008
Radio Version: 1.70.OliNex
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04H
so maybe the radio is not compatible with the rom and that is why i am having issues with the sound ?
That is a possibility. The nice part about flashing radios is that they are completely independent from the ROM. When you flash a radio it won't flash or reset your device. Therefore, you can flash and test as many radios as you want without any real negative side-effects Just stick with the one that ends up working the best for you!
Digital Outcast, thank you for your help.
do you think you or someone can point me to a tutorial to flash the radio only ?
i am finding how to update the rom but not the radio only.
thank you again.
To flash the radio follow the same steps as flashing the ROM. You need only the radio (.nbh file) and the Kaiser Custom RUU. Just don't do a hard-reset or anything after it completes!
cool, i installed a new radio and it fixed that problem, i am checking other common features of the phone, for now everything seems to be fine.
thank you very much for your help
Problem with incoming call
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!
gladone said:
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!
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Start by reading the stickies. Always best place to start. Or if you are lazy and wish to just jump to radios use this >link<. But I definitely recommend you read all the stickies before flashing a device for the first time. Just start with the newest radio and work backwards til you find a good one for your device.

Kaiser doesn't call after 1 call

Hi I'm new around here. Thanks to the NOOB install guide I could install a great rom from this site. It worked great... untill I made a call. I called someone and after the call I couldn't call anyone untill I soft reseted the phone. I tried to install another rom for the kaiser and I even tried the wm 6.5 rom. They all work but after 1 call the call function cuts working. Is this an common problem?
Could someone help me
you're obviously new here, so welcome!
somehow, i think you're under the impression that we are mind readers
did you search here on the forum? did you read the wiki? which particular flashing guide for noobs did you follow? which ROMs EXACTLY did you try?
what i mean to say is BE PARTICULAR and DETAILED in your posts...and this is a NECESSITY if you are starting a new thread...which really doesn't seem appropriate (yet) because your issue SEEMS to be caused by an unmatched radio version and/or SPL version...BOTH SPL version and radio version must be versions that are meant for windows mobile 6.1/6.5 if you tried 6.1/6.5 ROMs. i have a feeling your SPL is one meant for windows mobile 6.0...another possibility is that the ROMs you tried DID NOT come with a radio (some ROMs do, some ROMs don't) and so your radio version might also be one meant for windows mobile 6.0.
please read the wiki to find out how to determine your radio version and your SPL version...then post back here
you might want to re-read the noob flashing guide also
and to reiterate, always be detailed and always SEARCH thoroughly
good luck
same problem
I have exacly the same problem.
I used Kaiser Unlocker V2.0 Made by Olipro - 2008
The phone actually dials the numbers but there is no sound either out or in.
also when recieving a txt message the vibrate remains on contant.
My Kaiser is running WM6.1
operator v 24.328.1.610
Rom version 3.28.61.0 WWE
date: 05/02/08
Radio Version 1.70.OliNex
protocol version 25.65.30.04H
Honestly i'm less than a neebie! Although an experenced PC engineer, I only wanted to undo the Orange SIM lock before I go overseas for 6 months to an area that only operates Cable & Wireless mobile.
Mentioned above is a note about out of date radio version, the Rom date does seem a little old for WM6.1, what should I be looking for to update the radio?
any advice is greatly recieved.
Thanks
Ian
the unlocker essentially uses a "special" radio+SPL combo that is meant for unlocking ONLY
you seem to still have the said radio version (indicated by the "1.70.OliNex" string)
so verify that your phone is indeed sim unlocked. then proceed to change your spl and radio to the recommended ones for windows mobile 6.1. the unlocking should "stick" after changing the radio+spl combo but do verify before starting and after completing the update.
nice to see you are a PC engineer so you'll have no trouble thoroughly reading the wiki (first link in my signature) and making sense of the wealth of information there on how to update your radio (get a suitable one from the "Ultimate Radio Thread" linked in my signature) and spl.
good luck!
Thanks very much, a temp radio... that makes sence.
Thanks again
Ian

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