Will all Eclair roms require Death SPL from now on? Or will it be possible to make a rom for those of us running stock?
I doubt that would be possible with those tmobile apps added in and ringtones and boot screen and multitouch screens with bluray players.
So maybe cause untrustful sites said it was in the works. But dont worry about MT3G they will have it and a MT3G fender and V2 will be out this year w/ 2.1 update.
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I doubt that would be possible with those tmobile apps added in and ringtones and boot screen and multitouch screens with bluray players.
So maybe cause untrustful sites said it was in the works. But dont worry about MT3G they will have it and a MT3G fender and V2 will be out this year w/ 2.1 update.
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No I meant custom roms for those with root on stock spl. The ringtones don't have to be added to the rom zip file, they can be a separate zip and added to the sdcard like cyanogen does with his rom. My g1 refuses to flash radio updates for some reason so I can't update to haykuros spl.
I'm thinking about porting Manup or JAC's Eclair to fit stock SPL as well. Moving apps to /data and using minimal Audio.
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I'm thinking about porting Manup or JAC's Eclair to fit stock SPL as well. Moving apps to /data and using minimal Audio.
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That would be extremely awesome! If I knew more about rom development id have done the same. I'm guessing its not as easy as deleting/moving the ringtones to a separate zip and moving apps to /data, and resigning the zip? Is there more to it than that when porting to stock spl?
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That would be extremely awesome! If I knew more about rom development id have done the same. I'm guessing its not as easy as deleting/moving the ringtones to a separate zip and moving apps to /data, and resigning the zip? Is there more to it than that when porting to stock spl?
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Probably, but I'm still a noob at developing so I'm still trying to get the hang of this.
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Probably, but I'm still a noob at developing so I'm still trying to get the hang of this.
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Either way it'd be great if you got it to work. Plus it'll help you hone your skills. I believe that might be all that's required to get it to work, but the problem is knowing which apps to move to data and which ones to keep in system. I think cyans wiki mentions "barebones" apps that can or can't be deleted from system or data because they may or may not be required by android to run properly. it'd be nice to see what you and the community can come up with!
To me, manup456's rom looks like it will work on a stock SPL. He already has the /system/app moved over to /data/app_s and symlinked back. I *believe* that despite the claim in the first post, that it in fact does NOT require the deathspl.
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To me, manup456's rom looks like it will work on a stock SPL. He already has the /system/app moved over to /data/app_s and symlinked back. I *believe* that despite the claim in the first post, that it in fact does NOT require the deathspl.
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did u test those roms...i couldnt find any roms that would work with Hard SPL
geokuttan said:
did u test those roms...i couldnt find any roms that would work with Hard SPL
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I said manup456's.
Take a look at it, it only uses 62.4 MB in /system. The original size of /system is 67.5 MB. 39.5 MB of 74.8 in /data for system apps, but with apps2sd that is fine.
Personally, I would put the extra 40 MB into /cache instead of /data, this way apps2sd won't be strictly required, but it'll work either way.
Note the ONLY difference between the deathSPL and engineering SPL, aside from the brickrisk associated with deathSPL, is the partition layout. Since it'll fit, it'll work.
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I said manup456's.
Take a look at it, it only uses 62.4 MB in /system. The original size of /system is 67.5 MB. 39.5 MB of 74.8 in /data for system apps, but with apps2sd that is fine.
Personally, I would put the extra 40 MB into /cache instead of /data, this way apps2sd won't be strictly required, but it'll work either way.
Note the ONLY difference between the deathSPL and engineering SPL, aside from the brickrisk associated with deathSPL, is the partition layout. Since it'll fit, it'll work.
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yea manup456's Eclair2.1 Rom doesnt work with hard SPL v1.5
Error:
E: Failure at line 344:
installation aborted
geokuttan said:
yea manup456's Eclair2.1 Rom doesnt work with hard SPL v1.5
Error:
E: Failure at line 344:
installation aborted
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Sure it does.
Did you bother reading the update-script at line 344 to understand your error?
Line 344: copy_dir PACKAGE:data DATA:
Very few things can make this fail;
1) /data partition is full,
2) /data doesn't exist within the update archive,
3) /data partition is corrupt.
If you observe the preceding lines in the script, he does NOT FORMAT the /data partition. He clears /data/app, /data/init.rc, /data/local, and /data/dalvik-cache. /data has other stuff, like /data/system, /data/data, etc., and these take up space. Even after clearing those things, YOURS obviously still doesn't have at least 39.5 MB available. So I suggest that you WIPE your /data partition before trying to install this.
Another little note about this particular image: **after** installing it, DO NOT WIPE YOUR /data PARTITION!!! If you do, you will delete all the system apps!
One other minor possible glitch to be aware of... once the system starts creating dalvik-cache files, it is possible that the /data partition will overfill. If this happens, you might want to move some crap from /data into /cache.
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Sure it does.
Did you bother reading the update-script at line 344 to understand your error?
Line 344: copy_dir PACKAGE:data DATA:
Very few things can make this fail;
1) /data partition is full,
2) /data doesn't exist within the update archive,
3) /data partition is corrupt.
If you observe the preceding lines in the script, he does NOT FORMAT the /data partition. He clears /data/app, /data/init.rc, /data/local, and /data/dalvik-cache. /data has other stuff, like /data/system, /data/data, etc., and these take up space. Even after clearing those things, YOURS obviously still doesn't have at least 39.5 MB available. So I suggest that you WIPE your /data partition before trying to install this.
Another little note about this particular image: **after** installing it, DO NOT WIPE YOUR /data PARTITION!!! If you do, you will delete all the system apps!
One other minor possible glitch to be aware of... once the system starts creating dalvik-cache files, it is possible that the /data partition will overfill. If this happens, you might want to move some crap from /data into /cache.
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i did a wipe before installing this rom...i have like 50 mb free space available...
i am planning on updating to ENG SPL....but lot of people said its really risky...
geokuttan said:
i did a wipe before installing this rom...i have like 50 mb free space available...
i am planning on updating to ENG SPL....but lot of people said its really risky...
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Wrong, it is really risky going to the Haykuro spl (Also known as the Death or Danger spl). While flashing anything is risky, the spl your going to flash isn't really risky when compared to the Haykuro spl.
JAguirre1231 said:
Wrong, it is really risky going to the Haykuro spl (Also known as the Death or Danger spl). While flashing anything is risky, the spl your going to flash isn't really risky when compared to the Haykuro spl.
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someone said that Haykuro roms iwll probably work with Eng SPL...
The haykuro spl is not hard to flash. There was a lot of confusion when it first came out, but it really is nothing to worry about. Check the link to my Nex^2us theme, there are instructions on flashing the spl that have worked well for everyone (so far).
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The haykuro spl is not hard to flash. There was a lot of confusion when it first came out, but it really is nothing to worry about. Check the link to my Nex^2us theme, there are instructions on flashing the spl that have worked well for everyone (so far).
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I was kinda confused cuz...i already have RADIO-2.22.19.261(If i flash the radio again will it brick my phone?)....so do i still need to flash the radio again and then flash the haykuro spl you have? also i will not loose anything right...like i have Amon Ra recovery and switchrom with a few roms....
geokuttan said:
I was kinda confused cuz...i already have RADIO-2.22.19.261(If i flash the radio again will it brick my phone?)....so do i still need to flash the radio again and then flash the haykuro spl you have? also i will not loose anything right...like i have Amon Ra recovery and switchrom with a few roms....
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Even if you are certain you have the correct Radio, you flash the radio anyway, as it will prevent a brick. The purpose of this is many people "know" they have the correct radio, then flash the spl and brick, because they in fact did not have it.
You will not lose your recovery. Other than an increase in space, you will not notice anything.
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Even if you are certain you have the correct Radio, you flash the radio anyway, as it will prevent a brick. The purpose of this is many people "know" they have the correct radio, then flash the spl and brick, because they in fact did not have it.
You will not lose your recovery. Other than an increase in space, you will not notice anything.
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Other than the loss of a rom...
cloverdale said:
The haykuro spl is not hard to flash. There was a lot of confusion when it first came out, but it really is nothing to worry about. Check the link to my Nex^2us theme, there are instructions on flashing the spl that have worked well for everyone (so far).
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I have one more question ..in the 6th step you said that i need to flash the HTC recovery...i already have Amon ra so after i flash the SPL i can just restore a rom using switchrom right...
JAguirre1231 said:
Other than the loss of a rom...
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well i have backed up my roms using Amon Ra switchrom...its in the sd card so it will be safe...
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Hey, I just wanted to confirm that I will be taking all of the proper steps in putting CyanogenMod 3.6.8.1. Here's what I will be doing (I'm going to start from complete scratch - figured it would help a bit):
CURRENTLY ON JF1.51 CRB43
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Repartitioning 8GB Class 4 card with 700MB Ext2
Reverting back to RC29 via DREAIMG.nhb
Flashing recovery image in terminal
Installing HardSPL through recovery console
Installing JF1.51 ROM (Heard its smart to do this first)
Installing HTC Radio from http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html
Installing Cyanogen Recovery Console
Flashing CyanogenMod 3.6.8.1 ROM
Recovery console: upgrade_fs (EXT2 -> EXT3)
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QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE
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Will this ROM smoothly support the modified Rosie.apk from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532822 ?
Am I correct in assuming I do not need to install the Haykuro SPL?
Should I use Compcache from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537236 ? I have no experience whatsoever with swap files
Am I correct in assuming that I do not need to manually set up Apps2SD?
And most importantly: DID I MISS ANY CRUCIAL STEPS THAT I WILL REGRET DOWN THE LINE? Dont believe so, but better safe than sorry!!
Thanks every so much!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I will be using Paragon Partition manager to partition MicroSD card if that makes a difference
you shouldnt have to redo all the steps. just wipe and flash his rom. also to my knowledge rosie will not run on a non-hero rom. you do not need haykuro's spl. i have put cm rom on phones straight from rc-29 with no problems. i do not know how to use paragon, but it is very easy to partition an sdcard through cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery. apps2sd is automatic with his rom. if it feels slow you can use compache but do not have to if you do not feel you need to. if you do want to go through the steps you have listed then you are set. hope i was able to answer some of your questions
Your ext2 partition is really large. 500MB should be well enough.
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Hey, I just wanted to confirm that I will be taking all of the proper steps in putting CyanogenMod 3.6.8.1. Here's what I will be doing (I'm going to start from complete scratch - figured it would help a bit):
CURRENTLY ON JF1.51 CRB43
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Repartitioning 8GB Class 4 card with 700MB Ext2
Reverting back to RC29 via DREAIMG.nhb
Flashing recovery image in terminal
Installing HardSPL through recovery console
Installing JF1.51 ROM (Heard its smart to do this first)
Installing HTC Radio from http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html
Installing Cyanogen Recovery Console
Flashing CyanogenMod 3.6.8.1 ROM
Recovery console: upgrade_fs (EXT2 -> EXT3)
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QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE
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Will this ROM smoothly support the modified Rosie.apk from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532822 ?
Am I correct in assuming I do not need to install the Haykuro SPL?
Should I use Compcache from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537236 ? I have no experience whatsoever with swap files
Am I correct in assuming that I do not need to manually set up Apps2SD?
And most importantly: DID I MISS ANY CRUCIAL STEPS THAT I WILL REGRET DOWN THE LINE? Dont believe so, but better safe than sorry!!
Thanks every so much!!!!!!!!!!!
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It sounds like you are coming from a brand new g1. If you already have root i wouldnt go back to RC29. And really dont see a point in installing JF 1.51 if your going to cyanogens. You'll just wipe it off anyways.
1. I suggest installing the Cyan's Recovery image first.
2. Then the newest radio and SPL.
3. Make sure you have adb setup (it makes things way easier)
if you want to run cyanogens i suggest 3 partitions although ive heard you can get by with 2. The 3 partitions are generally fat32, ext2/3/4 (2 or 3 is fine and usually is around 500 MB) and a linux-swap partition which is usually around 32 MB, and whatevers left out of your space on your sd card goes to your fat32.
4. If you want to upgrade from ext2 to ext3 then do the upgrade_fs
5. Use ADB and push over the update file or if you have a SD card reader i think you can do it that way.
6. Boot into recovery and do an alt-w (wipe) and alt-s (apply update).
7. Should be good to go from there.
Now for your questions:
1. No you dont need hykuro's SPL (sorry if i mis-spelled i dont use)
2. I personally do not use compcache and it runs ridiculously fast ( I do use linux swap)
3. As far as steps you may have missed. I believe the suggested advice is radio first then spl.
Lastly: There are guides and links to all the files you need right here on XDA. Use the search function as much as possible and the community will be glad to help out. If you have any questions you can get my contact info out of my profile, ill help as i can (im still pretty new to this).
Disclaimer: I AM NOT RESPONCIBLE FOR ANY BAD ADVICE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LEAD TO THE BRICKING OF YOUR DEVICE.
Thanks for the replies everyone! Flashing it now, I'll report back on how it runs!
I'll be doing this tomorrow as well. Pretty straightforward.
Its so damned fast!!! lol It really feels like things open before I even push the button sometimes!
Many many thanks Cyanogen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always love a happy ending.
Another happy root user = possible next gen dev!
All I would of recommended was installing his Recovery image 1.31 and running a nandroid backup just incase you want to revert back to your old build.
Done and done
New sig speaks for itself...its ultra sexy (screenshots to follow once I find an old apk)
Is there a thread anywhere for the installation of CyanogenMod specifically? I am afraid most of the threads of instructions are for Hero based roms. I am wondering if I need to partition my SD first,and what partition sizes and types. Also wonder if I need new radio and SPL for his ROM, and when to install the 1.4 recovery.
Basically confused with all the different guides for so many ROMs, and many assume the phone is already rooted and running a hacked ROM.
Thanks!!
im also assuming your phone is rooted? if not go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
you can install the recovery whenever you want.
partitioning sizes are based on your card size, i have a 4gb with 500mb ext3, the rest is fat32. i wouldnt go past that but ive seen a couple people with a gig. i just think its a waste, im starting to think my 500 is a waste honestly.
flash the radio THEN the spl, then the rom. cyanogen i believe uses bind mounts. you wont have to set up anything, itll do it all on its own as long as you have a ext2/3/4 partition set up CORRECTLY.
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im also assuming your phone is rooted? if not go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
you can install the recovery whenever you want.
partitioning sizes are based on your card size, i have a 4gb with 500mb ext3, the rest is fat32. i wouldnt go past that but ive seen a couple people with a gig. i just think its a waste, im starting to think my 500 is a waste honestly.
flash the radio THEN the spl, then the rom. cyanogen i believe uses bind mounts. you wont have to set up anything, itll do it all on its own as long as you have a ext2/3/4 partition set up CORRECTLY.
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No need to flash the new SPL.
No SPL? So all I need to do is follow instructions to root the phone, partition my SD and flash Cynogenmod ROM? I have an 8 gig SD on its way class 6.
The root directions at the link state to only format the SD as fat "Format your phone's SD card to FAT32 mode", but you mentioned partitioning with a ext partiton and a fat? No swap partition required?
captsammy said:
No SPL? So all I need to do is follow instructions to root the phone, partition my SD and flash Cynogenmod ROM? I have an 8 gig SD on its way class 6.
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Yup just root partition, flash radio and flash cyanogenmod. No need to flash new spl. Hard spl is fine.
captsammy said:
The root directions at the link state to only format the SD as fat "Format your phone's SD card to FAT32 mode", but you mentioned partitioning with a ext partiton and a fat?
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yes you have to have an ext partition. cyanogens roms have an auto apps2sd built in. you dont have to do anything BESIDES partition it to get a2sd to work on it.
No need to flash new spl. Hard spl is fine.
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So is Hard SPL already on the stock phone? Sorry to sound the TOTAL noob, but your first line states that all that is needed is the new radio and CynogenMod, then you mention the flashing of SPL. Is there a "best" SPL? Not sure what the SPL is.
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So is Hard SPL already on the stock phone? Sorry to sound the TOTAL noob, but your first line states that all that is needed is the new radio and CynogenMod, then you mention the flashing of SPL. Is there a "best" SPL? Not sure what the SPL is.
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No, Hard SPL is not included in the stock phone.
SPLs for DREA100 & DREA110 (Orig, Eng, Hard) [updated 5/12/09]
Great thread about SPL's
Get the though of "Best" out of your head. Think of what will work well with everything put together
It says it is automatic but it wasn't for me. All I could think of is downloading a .apk for apps2sd but it says not to do that. Thanks for any help.
I searched and couldn't find the answer so sorry if it's an obvious question
edit: I'm thinking about running an apps2sd.apk... I have no clue why this isn't working
you have an ext3 partition?
grandomegabosses said:
you have an ext3 partition?
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yes i do, I've had apps2sd running before.
and you're sure it didn't work? you reflash it? if so, reformatted your ext partition? if so, redid all of your partitions completely? if after all that it isn't working, i dunno what to tell ya.
grandomegabosses said:
and you're sure it didn't work? you reflash it? if so, reformatted your ext partition? if so, redid all of your partitions completely? if after all that it isn't working, i dunno what to tell ya.
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Yeah, I've done all of that initially after I saw it didn't work, thanks though.
sorry i couldn't help, man :\ best of luck to you
i dont know if this will work, but try flashing another hero rom, then flash jachero back on top of it if your apps2sd works.
your ext is the 2nd partition right?
B-man007 said:
i dont know if this will work, but try flashing another hero rom, then flash jachero back on top of it if your apps2sd works.
your ext is the 2nd partition right?
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Thanks, but I tried that and didn't work, and yes it is, I just flashed cyanogen to make sure apps2sd is working and it is on that build.
apps2sd not automatic
Also having this identical issue. Worked perfectly pre JacxHero1.2 build yet not now.
Even reformatted entire Sd prior to updating current build to correct 1.2 bootloop issue which worked yet now no apps2sd and int mem gettin low so would be super nice to find a troubleshoot method not previously already mentioned. Anyone? Plz help. Thanks in advance.
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Ext3 = 500mb
Linux-swap = 64mb
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Thanks, but I tried that and didn't work, and yes it is, I just flashed cyanogen to make sure apps2sd is working and it is on that build.
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can you run a logcat on first boot?
update (workaround) - apps2sd not automatic
Have found out that upon flashing Rom updates (jacxheroski1.4 being my currently installed version), any apps installed to internal mem prior to flash will complete a move across. I.E. the entire flashing process serves to actually move them all over to ext3 but once back in and re-booted, apps2sd once again permanently ceases to work automatically, upon any subsequent reboot thereafter. For now, guess I've found an tolerable alternate workaround yet this is not the optimal solution by any means. Are there any others having this problem? Any additional potential fixes not previously denoted within this thread? Thanks in advance
Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
Restoring your nand backup with standard partitions won't work after creating firerat's custom partitions. I don't think they will, anyway. You can try it. More than likely the nandroid restore won't work (might tell you there's not enough space in one of the partitions) or it won't fully boot, and you'll have to start from scratch.
Titanium Backup makes this process pretty painless, minus the clicking install, install, install... it even saves app settings and preserves Market links.
illdourmum said:
Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
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You can restore a nand backup if the new partitions have enough space. I will do this if I'm shrinking my system partition to accommodate a smaller ROM that I had already flashed. I haven't noticed any issue when doing it. Just follow the steps, and make sure your partitions are in line with what you need.
thanks for your reply!
I'll wait till a new realease of aospCMod is out then i'll try it out.
illdourmum said:
thanks for your reply!
I'll wait till a new realease of aospCMod is out then i'll try it out.
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No problem. I'm running aospCMod. I had my partitions set at 130 10. I set them a bit conservative to allow for all the updates that were coming out. Since we haven't gotten an update since 3/26, and I was suffering serious flash withdrawals, I nanded my 3/26 install, then reflashed new partitions of 90 4, then restored my back up. 90 4 is still a bit conservative, and you can probably go to 72 2 depending on the size of the GAAPs and tweaks you flash with the rom.
Enjoy the mod, the increased data size is incredible.
illdourmum said:
Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
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And just a word of warning make sure you have atleast a class 6 sd card. Someone told me itll work with any class (i had a class 2) and eventually re flashing the MTD boot killed my sd card. Soooo just throwing my 2 cents out there. Its a great method though =]
Sounds like a bad SD card or something, mod has (or shouldn't..) absolutely no effect on your card at all.
stayclean said:
Sounds like a bad SD card or something, mod has (or shouldn't..) absolutely no effect on your card at all.
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Really now? Cause i heard it could effect that.
Which doesnt make sense cause it uses internel space. I guess Partioting would effect it but thats different. Perhaps youre right. Ill look into it =]
The OP of the Firerat thread explains what it does even. Doesn't do anything to the sd card. Or shouldn't. Have used it many times since the summer with absolutely no ill effect.
stayclean said:
The OP of the Firerat thread explains what it does even. Doesn't do anything to the sd card. Or shouldn't. Have used it many times since the summer with absolutely no ill effect.
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Ill give you a thanks on your meter man, i appreciate taking the time for noobs =]
808Bill said:
No problem. I'm running aospCMod. I had my partitions set at 130 10. I set them a bit conservative to allow for all the updates that were coming out. Since we haven't gotten an update since 3/26, and I was suffering serious flash withdrawals, I nanded my 3/26 install, then reflashed new partitions of 90 4, then restored my back up. 90 4 is still a bit conservative, and you can probably go to 72 2 depending on the size of the GAAPs and tweaks you flash with the rom.
Enjoy the mod, the increased data size is incredible.
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What do the numbers in the text file mean? mine is set to the OP settings of "102 2".
illdourmum said:
What do the numbers in the text file mean? mine is set to the OP settings of "102 2".
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The first number specifies the size (in MB) to make the system partition. The second number specifies the size (in MB) to make the cache partition. Taking into account the size of all other partitions (bootloader, boot, recovery, misc), any leftover space after that is pushed into the data partition.
So your resulting data partition will be (The default size of the data partition + the size shrunk from the system partition + the size shrunk from the cache partition).
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using Tapatalk
So I made a Nand Backup, Flashed FR's Mod 1.5.3 set to 105 5, then restored the Nand and flashed the FR_boot.zip and it WORKED!!!
this is AMAZING... now i have a total of 368MB of internal memory (233MB free)
Thanks for the help guys!!!!
I just joined the firerat bandwagon, it's kinda cool
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The first number specifies the size (in MB) to make the system partition. The second number specifies the size (in MB) to make the cache partition. Taking into account the size of all other partitions (bootloader, boot, recovery, misc), any leftover space after that is pushed into the data partition.
So your resulting data partition will be (The default size of the data partition + the size shrunk from the system partition + the size shrunk from the cache partition).
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In your opinion should i leave those number as they are, or isthere a benefit by changing them. Especially if i dont know exactly what changing those numbers would do haha
davidevan said:
In your opinion should i leave those number as they are, or isthere a benefit by changing them. Especially if i dont know exactly what changing those numbers would do haha
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what i did to determine the numbers was check the size of /system in my latest Nand backup and gave it some extra head room.
i may change it again to a larger number as i feel that i didnt provide enough of this "head room" for /system
illdourmum said:
what i did to determine the numbers was check the size of /system in my latest Nand backup and gave it some extra head room.
i may change it again to a larger number as i feel that i didnt provide enough of this "head room" for /system
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cool man, ill probably fiddle with it myself. If you come to good Partioning size, please do tell. id be curious to know what you use =]
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cool man, ill probably fiddle with it myself. If you come to good Partioning size, please do tell. id be curious to know what you use =]
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once i get home from school, i'll be playing around with the settings some more. i'll let you know what happens. but i would suggest you take a second opinion as i'm just a novice at this and just jumped on the FireRat's Mod bandwagon myself.
Oh of course. ive been using for about a month maybe? i just like everyones views and different experiences
Alright, now I know this question has almost certainly been asked before, but before you start raging at me, I have spent a good few hours looking around on here and other places, but I haven't found all of the information I'd like. Also, I find that people giving you their personal experience directly is more helpful anyway.
So, I got given a G1 the other day, and immediately started thinking about modding and rooting it, etc. The stock 1.6 was alright, but it wasn't too snappy and I wanted to try out different versions anyway. So I went ahead and:
Rooted my phone
Installed Amon_Ra's Recovery Image v.1.7.0
Flashed the radio to 2.22.19.26i
Installed DangerSPL
After I'd done all that, I went ahead and installed CyanogenMod 5, to try out 2.1 first. It seemed OK, but it was definitely slower than 1.6 by a fair amount. I then flashed to CM 6 and found it to be quicker, but still too slow for my liking. So I flashed to CM 4 instead, which was definitely more like it. I don't actually find myself missing many features from Android 2.0+ if I'm honest, but the OS STILL isn't as fast as I'd like. I know I can get it quicker.
I've removed all of the apps that I don't use (including some of the Google ones - I forgot to mention that I installed Google Apps too) to help free up some of the internal memory. I have a Kingston 4GB class 4 microSDHC card, but I understand that running apps from the SD card is going to be slower than from the internal ROM, so I'd rather keep all the apps on there.
I bought SetCPU, but I can't figure out how to configure it properly. The maximum speed I can set the CPU to is 528MHz, which is stock speed.
I'm using the stock launcher (which seems to have inserted 5 home screens - I only need 3) because I don't know if ADW Launcher or LauncherPro will be quicker. I have a few widgets and shortcuts, but not a ton. I use Opera Mini for browsing as I found Opera Mobile to be too slow when scrolling about and so on, and the stock browser to be even slower.
So basically my question is this: what things have you guys done to speed up your G1?
One thing I should mention is that I'm fine with most of the features of 1.6, but obviously I will upgrade to a later version of Android if there is a ROM/configuration that will be nice and snappy.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for the very long post.
if you are italian, there is a rom called padronfroyo that i find it the fastest one!
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if you are italian, there is a rom called padronfroyo that i find it the fastest one!
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Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am British though.
Try froyo by lazlo, very fast and stable rom.
Try overclocking to 576 mhz in the rom performance settings. Also, try tweaking the performance settings(compcache, jit, vm heap size, etc) until you find the fastest ones. I also use an app called cache cleaner to remove all the cache on my phone from the browser and such. I also use sdext to install apps on my sd and run them from there as well.Personally, I use adw ex because it has all the cool features and it is amazingly fast. I'm currently using cos-ds gingerbread and my phone is snappy as hell. But in your case try froyo by lazlo, in the g1 development forum.
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im using a donut rom with the latest radio and it flyyys
Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll try Froyo by Lazlo first, but how would I go about switching? Nandroid will backup my current ROM right? And then I will need to backup my apps with Titanium Backup or similar, and my contacts, etc.
When I wipe the system using the recovery, which options do I use? Because I remember there are several options for what you can wipe, but I'm not sure which ones I need to use.
And then I can just go ahead and flash the ROM using "flash zip from SD card" or whatever the option is called?
EDIT: Oh, and what's this about the SPL and the radio? I have DangerSPL installed and the radio is 2.22.19.26i
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Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll try Froyo by Lazlo first, but how would I go about switching? Nandroid will backup my current ROM right? And then I will need to backup my apps with Titanium Backup or similar, and my contacts, etc.
When I wipe the system using the recovery, which options do I use? Because I remember there are several options for what you can wipe, but I'm not sure which ones I need to use.
And then I can just go ahead and flash the ROM using "flash zip from SD card" or whatever the option is called?
EDIT: Oh, and what's this about the SPL and the radio? I have DangerSPL installed and the radio is 2.22.19.26i
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you wont be able to flash froyo by lazslo on that radio.. you need 2.22.27.09/28.25 and hboot 1.33.0013d
and if you have your apps saves to the ext partition of your sd than nandroid will back it up, or just do a bart backup!
when you install a new rom you want to wipe all data!! ALL DATA!! lol wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, sd partition, etc.. be sure to repair sd also.
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you wont be able to flash froyo by lazslo on that radio.. you need 2.22.27.09/28.25 and hboot 1.33.0013d
and if you have your apps saves to the ext partition of your sd than nandroid will back it up, or just do a bart backup!
when you install a new rom you want to wipe all data!! ALL DATA!! lol wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, sd partition, etc.. be sure to repair sd also.
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OK. Well, I think everything's backed up now.
When I choose to wipe SD:ext partition though, will that wipe all the data on my SD or just the ext folder or something? What does the ext folder even contain?
Which radio would I need for a UK G1? Or how do I find out which one I need? And how do I flash the radio and hboot?
Thanks
ellisbodds said:
OK. Well, I think everything's backed up now.
When I choose to wipe SD:ext partition though, will that wipe all the data on my SD or just the ext folder or something? What does the ext folder even contain?
Which radio would I need for a UK G1? Or how do I find out which one I need? And how do I flash the radio and hboot?
Thanks
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Best way to wipe for a clean install is using Ohsaka's Superwipe here Wiping sd:ext affects the ext partition only. If you are using appstoext, or magpie, you can store apps on ext.
The latest radio is 2825. Flashing radio and hboot is best done through fastboot,lower chances of bricking, much2 safer than flashing em through recovery. The guide on how to flash the radio and hboot is at my signature, try to read the instruction a few times and fully understand it before you start flashing, gluck!
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Best way to wipe for a clean install is using Ohsaka's Superwipe here Wiping sd:ext affects the ext partition only. If you are using appstoext, or magpie, you can store apps on ext.
The latest radio is 2825. Flashing radio and hboot is best done through fastboot,lower chances of bricking, much2 safer than flashing em through recovery. The guide on how to flash the radio and hboot is at my signature, try to read the instruction a few times and fully understand it before you start flashing, gluck!
Sent from my G1
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Excellent, thanks.
I still have a couple of questions though.
Do I need to flash the recovery image? The version in that thread is recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img, and I think mine is the same (it's definitely v1.7.0) just without the "cyan" bit on the end.
I'm a bit confused as to what radio I need to use. I'm in the UK, using a UK G1, and I thought I needed a different radio to US users? Am I using this one?
New Alternative radio: RADIO-2.22.28.25.img
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Or do I use 27.08?
How do I do this?
3) flash the files and other operations via fastboot
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I can't find a console or anywhere to input the data when in fastboot. I'm currently using 1.33.2005.
Do I wipe everything before flashing the radio and hboot, or in between doing that and installing the new rom?
Cheers
EDIT: Oh, and Froyo by Laszlo says that I need an ext4 partition. Is this on my SD card or on the phone? And how do I create one? Thanks
ellisbodds said:
Excellent, thanks.
I still have a couple of questions though.
Do I need to flash the recovery image? The version in that thread is recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img, and I think mine is the same (it's definitely v1.7.0) just without the "cyan" bit on the end.
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yes you would still need to flash a recovery. the cyan bit at the end just denotes a cyan themed recovery, the exact same recovery but blue. you can flash the normal amonra 1.7 recovery
I'm a bit confused as to what radio I need to use. I'm in the UK, using a UK G1, and I thought I needed a different radio to US users? Am I using this one?
Or do I use 27.08?
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use the 2825 radio, it is the latest and works everywhere. remember to follow the guide step by step, do not skip/change the steps, it must be done in order
How do I do this?
I can't find a console or anywhere to input the data when in fastboot. I'm currently using 1.33.2005.
Do I wipe everything before flashing the radio and hboot, or in between doing that and installing the new rom?
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fastboot is done via PC from command prompt, check here for a guide on how to setup fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
it might seem tedious and long but trust me, it is very useful, you will use it a lot. just do a superwipe after you have upgraded the whole radio+hboot thing. remember to power down first once you have superwiped
EDIT: Oh, and Froyo by Laszlo says that I need an ext4 partition. Is this on my SD card or on the phone? And how do I create one? Thanks
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ext is in sd card. this is done in recovery, go to partition SD, enter your desired size(depending on your sd card size, 200mb for ext should be enough, im using an 8gb sd card, so i set my ext to 600mb) and once you have partitioned, just select upgrade ext2 to ext3 and then ext3 to ext4. partitioning will erase your entire sd card, so remember to copy the content to your PC first
hope it helps
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yes you would still need to flash a recovery. the cyan bit at the end just denotes a cyan themed recovery, the exact same recovery but blue. you can flash the normal amonra 1.7 recovery
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Even though I already have normal 1.7 installed I need to flash it again?
use the 2825 radio, it is the latest and works everywhere. remember to follow the guide step by step, do not skip/change the steps, it must be done in order
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Gotcha
EDIT: The 28.25 radio is in a zip which contains the .img and a bunch of other stuff as well. Do I just need the img or do I need to dump the whole zip on my SD?
fastboot is done via PC from command prompt, check here for a guide on how to setup fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
it might seem tedious and long but trust me, it is very useful, you will use it a lot.
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EDIT: ADB and fastboot are now up and running on my system.
just do a superwipe after you have upgraded the whole radio+hboot thing. remember to power down first once you have superwiped
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superwipe = go through all of the options and wipe all of them, I guess?
ext is in sd card. this is done in recovery, go to partition SD, enter your desired size(depending on your sd card size, 200mb for ext should be enough, im using an 8gb sd card, so i set my ext to 600mb) and once you have partitioned, just select upgrade ext2 to ext3 and then ext3 to ext4. partitioning will erase your entire sd card, so remember to copy the content to your PC first
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So when would I do this then? After flashing the radio and SPL and before flashing the ROM, I would imagine?
EDIT: What size would you recommend for a 4GB card?
hope it helps
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It did help, and you've been very helpful in all your posts. There's just so much I have to learn.
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Even though I already have normal 1.7 installed I need to flash it again?
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No if you already have Amon Ra 1.7 recovery on your phone then you dont have to reflash it. But if you want to reflash it, it wont hurt to do so.
ellisbodds said:
Gotcha
EDIT: The 28.25 radio is in a zip which contains the .img and a bunch of other stuff as well. Do I just need the img or do I need to dump the whole zip on my SD?
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No just the dump the whole zip file on to your sd card.
ellisbodds said:
EDIT: ADB and fastboot are now up and running on my system.
superwipe = go through all of the options and wipe all of them, I guess?
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superwipe is this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834812&highlight=superwipe
Download version two, and put the whole zip file onto your sd card. You would flash this through the "flash a zip file" option in recovery.
It allows you to wipe everything instantaneously. Make sure to make a Nandroid backup before you flash it though.
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So when would I do this then? After flashing the radio and SPL and before flashing the ROM, I would imagine?
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Yes you are correct.
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EDIT: What size would you recommend for a 4GB card?
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*Remember to backup your entire sd card to your computer because it will be entirely wiped out.
These are my recommended partiton sizes:
It's best if you dont get swap, i find it slow,but if you want swap you can repartition it later,so use this:
fat 32: 512 mb (place where apps are stored, should be plenty of room)
swap: 0 mb
then the rest of the memory is saved on to your ext 2 partition
After your done partitioning your sd card, you must upgrade to ext 4.
So, go to upgrade ext2 to ext 3, then once its done, go to upgrade ext3 to ext 4 and then there you are done! You have ext4 on your sd card!
*Dont forget to place all the files you backed up onto your computer back onto the sd card because you will need to flash superwipe next, and then your rom.
You can do this by plugging in your phone thru usb to your computer, then choose the option "usb-ms toggle" in recovery,and it will mount the sd card so you can place the files back onto your sd.
Thanks for the reply.
When I flash superwipe, does that actually activate it, or do I need to flash it and then go somewhere else to use it? Also, do I need to download SuperWipe.conf as well?
This is what I have now:
Flash radio + hboot
Backup SD card data
Partition SD card:
512MB FAT32
The rest as ext2->ext3->ext4 (no swap)
Boot into recovery
Place files back on SD card
Flash superwipe
Power down/restart
Flash froyo rom
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Also, as for the radio, it says to enter these commands:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img
fastboot flash radio radio-2.22.27.08.img
fastboot flash hboot hboot-1.33.0013d.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
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So I guess I will just enter "flash radio update_2.22.28.25_S.zip" instead?
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Thanks for the reply.
When I flash superwipe, does that actually activate it, or do I need to flash it and then go somewhere else to use it? Also, do I need to download SuperWipe.conf as well?
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When you flash Superwipe, it unzips the file, and does what it tells it to, which is wipe everything. So you dont need to go anywhere to activate it, when you flash it, you are activating it.
No, you dont need the Superwipe.conf. Thats only if you want to change the things Superwipe will wipe.
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This is what I have now:Flash radio + hboot
Backup SD card data
Partition SD card:
512MB FAT32
The rest as ext2->ext3->ext4 (no swap)
Boot into recovery
Place files back on SD card
Flash superwipe
Power down/restart
Flash froyo rom
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You are partioning your sd card through recovery, so you wont need to reboot your phone after your partitioning your sd card just go ahead and place your backedup sd card files back onto ur sdcard.
NOTE:When you are done flashing superwipe, it will tell you to power off ur phone before proceding.So, power off your phone, and then manually power back on to recovery by pressing home + power button at the same time, hold them until phone boots on. Then you are back into recovery and you can flash the Rom.
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Also, as for the radio, it says to enter these commands:fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img
fastboot flash radio radio-2.22.27.08.img
fastboot flash hboot hboot-1.33.0013d.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
So I guess I will just enter "flash radio update_2.22.28.25_S.zip" instead?
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Yes, you are correct.
Awesome, wish me luck then!
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Awesome, wish me luck then!
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Good Luck! Let me know how it goes. Have fun with your new rom!
OK, so I got as far as flashing the recovery image again, which worked fine, and then I tried to flash the new radio, which didn't work fine.
I try typing:
fastboot flash radio update_2.22.28.25_S.zip
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but all I get is:
sending 'radio' (9440 KB)... OKAY
writing 'radio'... FAILED (remote: image update error)
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And now I don't know what to do
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OK, so I got as far as flashing the recovery image again, which worked fine, and then I tried to flash the new radio, which didn't work fine.
I try typing:
but all I get is:
And now I don't know what to do
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hmm i think its displaying that mesage because its looking to update from the 2708 radio.
My only guess is to try flashing the 2708 radio instead of the 2825 radio.
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hmm i think its displaying that mesage because its looking to update from the 2708 radio.
My only guess is to try flashing the 2708 radio instead of the 2825 radio.
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And that will work here in the UK and stuff?
If I'm honest, I don't actually know what the "radio" does, but I hear the word and immediately think of some little chip inside the phone which communicates with the mobile network.
EDIT: 2.22.27.08 flashed okay. Now to move on