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Rooted G1 with Cyanogen... only 14 MB internal Memory left?

Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.

You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?

Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.

pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.

pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669

Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...

Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
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[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)

The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.

djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?

pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!

Linux Swap

Probably a stupid question, but that's sort of what this forum's for i suppose. I've got a new class 6 card winging its way to me. I'm not overly fussed about a2sd, but want to set up a linux swap partition on my phone to make hero/eclair roms run a little less frustratingly. i've got the latest amon ra recovery and can see on there that i can partition direct from the phone in a couple of clicks. can i set up swap without an ext2/3/4 bit or is it an all or nothing situation? because i tend to switch roms from various nandroid backups i've got saved, i don't want the apps to go all screwy. and what is a good swap size. too big can slow it down, right?
Sorry if it's been covered many many times before.

Alphabet Soap said:
Probably a stupid question, but that's sort of what this forum's for i suppose. I've got a new class 6 card winging its way to me. I'm not overly fussed about a2sd, but want to set up a linux swap partition on my phone to make hero/eclair roms run a little less frustratingly. i've got the latest amon ra recovery and can see on there that i can partition direct from the phone in a couple of clicks. can i set up swap without an ext2/3/4 bit or is it an all or nothing situation? because i tend to switch roms from various nandroid backups i've got saved, i don't want the apps to go all screwy. and what is a good swap size. too big can slow it down, right?
Sorry if it's been covered many many times before.
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When it asks for the ext size just scroll to 0.
The apps shouldn't get screwy, but sometimes they do. I went back to a cyan once and phone would force close after restoring, but that was only one time
For Hero/eclair I suggest 64-96mb

cheers
seems sensible enough. thanks. If i were to set up an ext partition, whack my apps on there and then change from, say, super d to hero, would the world go crazy? be it flashing an update.zip or restoring from nandroid?

ahh, just realised the answer myself
nandroid backup + ext for each image i'm keeping, wipe everything, restore...

Alphabet Soap said:
seems sensible enough. thanks. If i were to set up an ext partition, whack my apps on there and then change from, say, super d to hero, would the world go crazy? be it flashing an update.zip or restoring from nandroid?
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You couldn't, hero requires you to wipe everything each time you flash it. Even when going from hero to hero.

[MOD] Ext4 4 ALL! Gingerbread AOSP + GingerSense Update: 10/27 Normal dalvik fixed

Ext4 4 ALL!​
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*** 11/03/11 - CM Nightly flashers please see synisterwolf's post here for how to keep up with the nightlies when using this mod.
First of all I must thank tiny4579 for all of the hours he spent with me on this project and for his kernel that makes it possible for this to work on GingerSense roms. This has been a great team effort.
If you install any of these mods, on a Sense rom, Tiny's 10/15 kernel with wireless "n" support will be installed. On AOSP your currently installed kernel will be used.
There are 3 versions of this mod (choose ONE):
The normal_data mod just converts your /data and /cache partitions to the ext4 filesystem type for better all around real world performance and makes the necessary changes for this to work with your currently installed rom.
The no_data_limit_normal_dalvik mod (no 150MB data limit) does the above conversion but also removes the linking of /data/data to that small 150MB partition that causes the low space issues. It instead uses a subfolder of your 750MB /data partition to hold these files. It copies the data from your datadata partition, to this new subfolder and keeps the permissions in tact so that your phone doesn't know the difference. The old datadata partition is unused after this.
The no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod does exactly what mod 2 does but then uses the unused datadata partition for your /data/dalvik-cache folder.
*If you use the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod and need to wipe your dalvik-cache, flash the wipe_dalvik zip file.​
Prerequisites:
The latest ClockworkMod (Tested on v5.0.2.0)
For AOSP your current kernel needs to support Ext4 (Tested on stock CM7.1 with stock kernel)
Sense users canNOT change kernels after this because the stock kernel does NOT have ext4 support.
Keep in mind this is the first release. It has been tested on CM7.1, In-Sensitive Minimalist and Stock+. It should work on most Gingerbread roms for the Incredible ONLY.
Yes, this should work on Sense 1.0/2.0/2.1/3.0/3.5! Always backup first!
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**Disclaimer: This mod has a ZERO percent chance of bricking your phone but You, and only YOU, are responsible for what you do to your phone.
Usage:
If you flashed a version lower than v1.0 of the no_data_limit script, READ THIS!
Reboot into recovery and make a good nandroid backup
Either flash the rom you want to use, Restore a nandroid or skip this step to convert for your currently installed rom
Flash either the normal_data convert script or the no_data_limit convert script, depending on what you want
Reboot
Next click the "Thanks" button for Tiny (post #2) and For Me! Then Enjoy!
If you want to confirm that the mod worked, run this from adb shell or teminal emulator:
Code:
mount | grep ext4
If it worked, 2 lines will be displayed. If it didn't, nothing will be displayed.
To Move Dalvik Back to Normal Location:
Flash this. (Thanks cmlusco!)
To Uninstall
Just do a full wipe in CWM
Flash a fresh rom or restore a pre Ext4 backup
If you upgrade your rom after converting (Like a flashover update)
Re-run the mod as the last thing while in recovery after flashing the update.

If you're having issues going to or from the mod, please make sure you're using cwm 5.0.2.0. It would help with wipe data issues as one user reported.

Sorry if I took any more reserves. But just to be clear, the normal data mod is faster than no data limit mod? I've never had the data full message, so I'll just use the first one. Just curious.

BrettApple said:
Sorry if I took any more reserves. But just to be clear, the normal data mod is faster than no data limit mod? I've never had the data full message, so I'll just use the first one. Just curious.
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You're exactly right Brett. The normal leaves /data/data on it's own partition and should be faster. It should be really noticeable on the newer sense roms like Newt's HD rom.

jermaine151 said:
You're exactly right Brett. The normal leaves /data/data on it's own partition and should be faster. It should be really noticeable on the newer sense roms like Newt's HD rom.
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Sweet, thanks! I typically run CM7, and it's already crazy fast, I can't imagine it being any faster. But I have run many of the newer Sense ROMs, and there cool, but were always a little to slow for me. Guess I'll have to give them a run again
/Nice updater script, I LOL'd.

So how does this affect wipes in the mounts as far as switching ROMs? Will this work, delete, need reflashed with each new ROM?
Sent from my ADR6300

countryfolk07 said:
So how does this affect wipes in the mounts as far as switching ROMs? Will this work, delete, need reflashed with each new ROM?
Sent from my ADR6300
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CWM formats as ext3, so it would need to be reflashed after switching roms.

countryfolk07 said:
So how does this affect wipes in the mounts as far as switching ROMs? Will this work, delete, need reflashed with each new ROM?
Sent from my ADR6300
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You will need to reflash each time you do a full wipe or even wipe data but after flashing the rom.

So I'm curious exactly how this space is distributed. If the Incredible's "internal storage" is 750 MB, does that include everything in the /data folder, or specifically the apps and not their data?
Basically, if you have 200 MB of internal storage free, and 100 MB of stuff in /data/data, then you flash this mod, will it show 200 or 100 MB of internal storage free? Hopefully that's not too dumb of a question.

godsmacked4653 said:
So I'm curious exactly how this space is distributed. If the Incredible's "internal storage" is 750 MB, does that include everything in the /data folder, or specifically the apps and not their data?
Basically, if you have 200 MB of internal storage free, and 100 MB of stuff in /data/data, then you flash this mod, will it show 200 or 100 MB of internal storage free? Hopefully that's not too dumb of a question.
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Not dumb at all. You would have 100MB remaining because the datadata would become part of the /data partition.

jermaine151 said:
Not dumb at all. You would have 100MB remaining because the datadata would become part of the /data partition.
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Cool. Just wanted to make sure I don't overflow my storage with my warehouse of apps.

jermaine151 said:
Not dumb at all. You would have 100MB remaining because the datadata would become part of the /data partition.
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I'm assuming this is if you flash the "no data limit" mod. So what happens to the 150mb that was reserved for data/data? Would we basically lose that 150mb?

CUBENSIS said:
I'm assuming this is if you flash the "no data limit" mod. So what happens to the 150mb that was reserved for data/data? Would we basically lose that 150mb?
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You're correct; that's the no data limit mod. Yes, that 150MB partition would be just sitting around unmounted. That was the best we could come up with right now.

Tiny (or anyone), do you know if the latest Incredikernel for AOSP has Ext4 support? Really want to try this with MIUI and Incredikernel

TheWhiteBandito said:
Tiny (or anyone), do you know if the latest Incredikernel for AOSP has Ext4 support? Really want to try this with MIUI and Incredikernel
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Almost positive it does
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Almost positive it does
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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Incredikernel does, Tiamat does, I found out this morning that stock AOSP CM has Ext4 support.

Running this now. Certain things are clearly faster , eg loading of web pages (especially complicated pages or pages w/ Flash), loading of map tiles in Maps, program loading, and the very end of OS startup (after boot anim is done).
edit: this is on newt's inc hd sense 3.5 v1.05
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so i get ext3 in the .txt document with 8/15 incredikernel. does anyone know if it supports ext4?

watt9493 said:
so i get ext3 in the .txt document with 8/15 incredikernel. does anyone know if it supports ext4?
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I just said it does.

Weird. I flashed it but it put me in a Bootloader loop. Going to restore my backup (good thing I made one!) now.

[Q] Resize /system partition, how?

I'm on latest CM9 with Semaphore 1.2.4, but this latest update used up a lot of space in /system partition which only left me 2MB spaces. I need extra spaces for system app and new bootanimation, how?

You cant change the system partition size however to get the space in it try moving your app to sdcard.
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Even I need help with it..
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erpurohit said:
You cant change the system partition size however to get the space in it try moving your app to sdcard.
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How sure are you on that? From what I understand PIT files in ODIN can change partition layout. If one can change partition layout, one should be able to increase /system as well.
That said, I find Android very confusing. Some examples:
Onboard flash is not a SD card. A SD card is something you can just pull out of the device. Yet android refers to the onboard flash - or well, more accurately a specific partition on the onboard flash - as SD card.
CWM backup is supposed to do a *FULL* backup. Yet it does not include my pictures. No matter what format/wipe options I choose in CWM, the pictures don't go away... I have a whole different concept off a full wipe / factory reset / format SD than that.
It seems several tools format the wrong thing.
App data directories seem to move all over the place. I usually make nandroid backups and I have issues restoring my app *data* every time I use another ROM.
All that said, I'm a big time linux user. I'm extremely familiar with system maintenance on computers. However Android is new to me. All the confusing on naming etc. however is a HUGE !#@%!!#% obstacle.
But why explain things clearly or use terms what they're for. Much easier to confuse people right? At least someone can make money of it then.

Get slimbean 2.1
It has 1.9 gb of /system!!
Sent from my Rolls-Royce.

jay_ingale said:
Get slimbean 2.1
It has 1.9 gb of /system!!
Sent from my Rolls-Royce.
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All new version of jelly bean will be of this size only....

Delete /system/media/videos and convert cyanogenmod wallapapers to user apps. Saves ~15 mb
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium

Sorry to bump such old thread.
I was offered a I9000 that I would like to use as second phone.
I flashed I9000XXJVU_I9000OXAJVU_OXA through odin, and then root (cf-root) and MackayRom 1.7 .
As it says in the rom thread, I have a space problem. Is there any chance better than this one?
Any possibility of repartitioning the internal storage?
Here is my partition scheme:

Note 4 CM12 Storage

Hi, I flashed a CM12 nightly and it seems my storage is somewhat messed up. I've wiped everything and yet my total space still reads 24.22gb. I know I won't have all of the space, but I would think CM would leave me more total storage space. Help please?

PieceofSlice said:
Hi, I flashed a CM12 nightly and it seems my storage is somewhat messed up. I've wiped everything and yet my total space still reads 24.22gb. I know I won't have all of the space, but I would think CM would leave me more total storage space. Help please?
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Nah about 6-7gb is reserved for the system. You're fine.

Hmm, I knew that goes for TW but I didn't think CM. Does it just not display the 'system' in storage settings? What are the 6-7gb for?

PieceofSlice said:
Hmm, I knew that goes for TW but I didn't think CM. Does it just not display the 'system' in storage settings? What are the 6-7gb for?
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Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held

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absinthesummer said:
Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held
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Alright thanks, that makes cents. So then basically there will always be the 6-7gb of system storage no matter what? I don't think my Note 3 had this big of a system partition on CM12, though I may be wrong. Just wondering, do all ROMs use the 6-7gb of system? What if I tried an unofficial CM build?

PieceofSlice said:
Alright thanks, that makes cents. So then basically there will always be the 6-7gb of system storage no matter what? I don't think my Note 3 had this big of a system partition on CM12, though I may be wrong. Just wondering, do all ROMs use the 6-7gb of system? What if I tried an unofficial CM build?
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Yeah you can't change the size unfortunately, but no most roms do not take up the entire 6+gb. My note 2 only has something like 4gb system partition. I think because these are bigger devices and the stock roms have more features, the note 4 required a bigger system partition. Now, while zipped, most roms are between 700mb-1.5gb, but once extracted into the system partition they take up quite a bit more space.
Cm roms do take up less space, but you can't really use the remaining system partition space for anything else.
However, it's nice to have extra space on the system partition so you can flash mods and whatnot

absinthesummer said:
Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held
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absinthesummer said:
Yeah you can't change the size unfortunately, but no most roms do not take up the entire 6+gb. My note 2 only has something like 4gb system partition. I think because these are bigger devices and the stock roms have more features, the note 4 required a bigger system partition. Now, while zipped, most roms are between 700mb-1.5gb, but once extracted into the system partition they take up quite a bit more space.
Cm roms do take up less space, but you can't really use the remaining system partition space for anything else.
However, it's nice to have extra space on the system partition so you can flash mods and whatnot
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Okay, thank you. Really appreciate the detail Just checked my Note 3 and it has 25.64gb of 'Total Space' on CM12. I guess I just never realized it on then. So pretty much all Note 4s, no matter what, have about 6-7gb of reserved space...