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I can tell by what im reading here you all know your stuff very well. I, on the other hand, do not know what the heck your talking about %90 of the time. I HAVE searched the threads to see if I can get some straight info on my dilemma and cant find a simple enough answer to follow. So, im going to ask the question knowing it may have been asked and answered before. This time, im hoping, someone can give me an answer in laymans terms I can actually follow and perform.
My question is this:
I have both an O2 XDA Mini S AND a Cingular 8125. Same unit, different look. The O2 is UNLOCKED, the Cingular is LOCKED. I prefer the Cingular unit but Id much rather have the O2 OS and software. I was told if I was to re-install the O2 operating system (is this known as the ROM?) onto the Cingular device I would not only get the best of both worlds but It would also effectively UNLOCK the Cingular device at the same time (which I need as im not a cingular customer).
Can anyone tell me HOW to do this without all the confusing info and big words. Im not an idiot, im just not inclined technically... at least not this way.
I have used threads on this site to unlock phones before and im very good at following directions. But when the directions start asking for Radio versions and other things like that I just loose it. Is there a simple way to just erase whats on the 8125 and load whats on the XDA Mini S? If I do this is everything going to be screwed up and require a bunch of fiddling around to make all the features work? I dont want to improve on anything, I just want the functionality of the O2 with the form of the Cingular.
Any help with this would be great. I dont require anyone to tell me to search the forums for an answer. If thats what you feel you need to do, just dont post. Ive searched and cant find what im looking for.
Thanks to all those who make this site possible. You make the devices I love work for me when others cant.
Pavmentsurfer
Istructions
Have you already read this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
It's hard to be more clear than this...
Bye 8)
Wow, just read that post RANGEL. Im beginning to think im simply too much of a beginner to do something like this. As I said, im not an idiot, but im not inclined towards this type of stuff. I was hoping for a simple, link to link, step by step walkthrough of how to, quite simply, put an unlocked O2 OS onto my Cingular device. I have no idea what all the technical jargon on that thread you liked to means.
I think ill just take the safe route and stick with my unlocked O2 XDA Mini S and not mess with anything. The last thing I want is to mess up a $500 device. Ill just sell the Cingular device on e-bay.
Thanks for the link though. Unless something much more simple comes along I need to be smart enough to know when im outmatched.
Pavmentsurfer
pavmentsurfer,
I also noticed (it is hard not to) confusing style of these forum. We are maybe just too old...
There are just too many typed letters in these messages. Some threads are speeded on more than 15 pages. :shock:
Who can read all that from the beginning to the end? :roll:
This link, rangel sended, is one of the easiest, but...
I made copy/paste to word all relevant (I hope so) lines. Otherwise it is too hard to follow guide across thread, because it is too many noise around main speaker/writer.
I have searched both google and this forum and have not found any relevant information so I am hoping someone might know the answer to this. I have the Touch HD in NYC working on Tmobile with no 3G service. It appears that Tmobile now has the Touch Pro 2 with 3G service. I called Tmobile and they confirmed that it has the 1700/2100 bands. I then called HTC and was told that the radio can/may unlock the needed bands to run on Tmobiles high speed service. So....has anyone tried this? The radio version for the Tmobile Touc Pro 2 is 3.45.25.14 but I cant find it available anywhere to give it a try. Maybe it's lucky I didnt find it as I dont really know the effect it would have on my phone.
So....any thoughts?
OK. I now found a tmobile test version shipped with radio 3.44.25.17
I figured since noone seems to want to take the time to answer I would
just see what I can figure out.
Using NBHextract I was able to get to, from what I can assess is the radio file,
02_GSM.nb
I then found another program that supposedly should help to create a new nbh file with just the radio. I followed the instructions including a text file with the following inside:
Blackstone
00000000
3.44.25.14
USA
300,02_GSM.nb (I do not know if 300 is correct for the HD)
It did create an NBH file, when I tried to run it all I got was an error code "0058002"
I have no idea what the error code means and I do not know what else I can do to try and make this work.
Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might have gone wrong?
Is it just that you cannot use the radios interchangeably between the 2 devices??
bugdeyez said:
noone seems to want to take the time to answer
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You should read that first :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521206 (sticky on this forum)
Where you find that :
Security Unlock lets you flash radios from other devices... technically speaking you can flash any radio, but some will brick it (such as Topaz) - however, Diamond, Raphael and Kovsky should all be fine. It can also be an insurance policy against evil radios - people who had the Kaiser radio from hell will know what I mean.
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as CaiCai says you will need security unlock your HD.
this will cost you £10 gbp read the thread, as you have minimal posts.
Please also be aware this isn't a helpdesk, if you ask a question there's no guarantee it's going to be answered with your 1st 1 1/2 hour of asking
I'd suggest trying some patience, some people actually do have a life away from this forum, I know it doesn't appear that way sometimes, but we do try to escape the cords that bind us..
Personally I cant see how unless they included the hardware to enable the extra frequencies it could possibly work how you want. But I can hex edit the radio after you've done security unlock.
If you read this very forum there is a thread on radios, in fact there's two.
CaiCai: thanks for your straight forward answer and info. I will look into the things you suggested.
Fards:
If I am reading into your post incorrectly, forgive me, but I just sense as if your response has a tinge of attitude. You are absolutely right, i am impatient. However I was not disrespectful about it. I just explained my experience with the methods i tried in attempting to apply the new radio.
That being said, the two radio threads from what ive read, dont address this kind of question. I will reread them to be sure. In regards to your statement about the phone not having the physical capability to work on those bands, there are some people that have postulated that it may be more of a low level programming issue. Also as I said I spoke to someone at HTC and he said it is possible for a radio to allow a phone to work on additional frequencies.
Thanks for your suggestions also. I will look into unlocking the phone as you suggested. I was under the impression I had already done that, but as you see, I am still relatively new to this. Ive been around for over a yr and half, just not many posts. Also, how would hex editing the radio file help in the inatallation of it? I havent heard any references made to that before.
Thanke again fpr taking the time to respond.
As stated previously by others you need to security unlock your device first. Info on this is available here. Radio's from other devices which are known to work on the HD with this security unlock can be found here. Once your device is security unlocked it will state 'Security unlocked' along the top of bootloader screen.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17, I don't believe has been tried on the HD before, it may work with this security unlock, but it may not. Some radio's from other devices can still brick your device even when you use security unlock, so do this at your own risk.
As fards stated, try and be patient and don't go trying things unless you are 100% certain. Read up on everything first. Myself and others will always try to help when online. If unsure of anything, you can always PM me.
Ta
Rick
Rick, thanks for the info. I know people ask the same questions over and over and it can get annoying. There is just such a wealth of information on here that sometimes it definitely is possible to get lost in it all. I really appreciate all the help i get, especially when it is packed in such a friendly tone.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17
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Ideally, I am looking for radio 3.45.25.17
I havent found it as of yet found it. That 3.44
was from a test rom for the TMO touch pro 2.
I have the raw files from the TMO TP2 but from
what ive read, you cant make a radio installer from
a rom dumped from a phone. You need the ruu-signed.nbh file.
Thanks a lot.
theres a good chance that the radio will still need hex editing, if you read the threads about radio unlocking it's mentioned in both of them.
It's not hard to do at all, it just needs one section changing
me attitude.. noo never ..
Thanks guys for directing me to the right locations. I think the problem was I was searching with my terms being too specific. Looking for exactly that radio on the HD. Anyway, I will be bringing up the same issue here for anyone that would like to follow how it plays out.
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I guess you can delete this if you would like.
Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, they will kill it.
wat a shame. Very disappointing. Well, maybe they will come out with another winmo 3G phone soone to help me out. Thanks everyone for your responses.
If Olipro states Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, and they will kill it. Then I would believe him. Unfortunate though
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I have moved his over to the appropiate section and copied and pasted my question.
I am new to this forum and apologize for my noobness in advance as i wasn't sure either to post this here or in the Android Software and Hacking General section and i appreciate any comments as i understand i am new here and have contributed nothing to this forum. Here is my dilemma, i recently purchased a t mobile g1 from a friend about two weeks ago because i was interested in the android OS. Being in the UK it is locked to the T-mobile network which my existing sim is orange. I understand that there was a developers ROM that was released (codenamed holiday (adp 1.1)) which allows other networks to be used on the g1 e.g orange etc as its a developer version. I was wondering what compatible ROMS for the g1 (htc dream) that would allow me to use my orange sim. Again i really do appreciate nay comments and help i receive and understand i have not contributed to this community and it is highly rude to ask for something when given nothing.
Changing the ROM on your device will not unlock it so that you can use it on any network. You need to get an unlock code for your device. T-Mobile US will give these out to their subscribers but I don't know about your carier. If they don't you can get it online too. They will need your phone's IMEI to generate the code. Just put in the new SIM and it will prompt you for the code regardless of the ROM you have.
isnt there such a thing as a hardware unlock though if i use a custom rom?. I brought this phone from a friend so i doubt phoning t-mobile will help get me a code.
p.s. cheers for taking the time to comment
No, I'm fairly sure the only way to unlock this device is what I posted above.
i thought you just needed a t-mob sim to login and then you were free to choose after this whole rooting/flashing thing.
its already a long time ago, so i might confuse a lot and its only that what i think to know. nothing sure..
i wanted an android phone and my friend was saying i culd get his off him and i thought that be a perfect time to get into the android os and stuff, i wasnt ure if i coulld by rooting/flashing that id be able to use another network thats why i wondered if i flashed it to a deveopler rom the adp1 one i could us another sim, i will look into the method beav_35 put but im not sure on any reputable sites to trust to do this method.
I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
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Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
Sent from my SCH-I800
connexion2005 said:
I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
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One of the other members did and it worked, I am not sure what was FC'ing but he was using it that way. A word of WARNING, if you accidentally flash the modem with the GSM one, its dead forever! You cannot restore it!!
But yeah it should boot, and be able to use WiFi.
lhttan said:
Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
Sent from my SCH-I800
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Verizon and Sprint use the same radio's so this should not be an issue
OK second question. Where on earth can I find the VZW firmware files to use with Odin or Heimdall? I flashed the Klean ROM and like it but then I realized I was having problems finding the stock pit and pda files to revert back to stock if needed!
I would love if I could use GSM ROM's. I bought a Verizon TAB (mistake now that I realized this) and just use it for WIFI only so network access is not an issue for me.
Is that file you need ?
lhttan said:
Is that file you need ?
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Downloading now but I'm pretty sure thats it! You are awesome. And I'm a lazy searcher.
try this... its the vzw recovery package i use... unrar and bring it into hiemdall... try using the voodoo overclocked kernal with it... great improvements, blazing fast, and the sound is unmatched... im not sure why, and i could very well be doing it wrong... but when i flash the zImage for the kernal, i always have to flash that zImage into the recovery as well... like i said idk why but 90% of the time my flash will fail unless i do that... so if you have any problems try it... hope this helps!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TC4G5IYC
probably the same files... beat me to it haha
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
How can I avoid to flash the modem with the GSM one ? I usally use heimdall-frontend.exe to flash !
I could be wrong, but if you go through frontend dont you have to manually palce the moden file into the slot for modem? couldnt you just flash everything but modem? or is it in the kernal as well??
Soft
Brick.
arariel said:
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Soft
Brick.
You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
That was ugly!
Boushh said:
Soft
Brick.
You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
connexion2005 said:
Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
arariel said:
Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
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LOL You just had a *****fit with the best CDMA dev we have, nice work.
How did you do it?
Hey man, watched your video review great stuff, any update date on how you got the rom on your CDMA Tab however? I just got a Sprint Tab and would love to flash Overcome on it...thanks for any advice
connexion2005 said:
Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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connexion2005 said:
Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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hey connexion2005, any update on the video? i´ve been surfing around the forums for a couple of hours now and haven´t found any procedures on how to get overcome on the VZW tab. just wondering
I'm completely new to HTC, but not Android (so that's N00b status again), and I have a Developer's Edition coming tomorrow. I'm assuming that I will not need to bother with the process of unlocking the bootloader via htcdev due to it (supposedly) being already. My next issue is, will I be able to root/s-off/supercid using the most common methods mentioned (HSoon's toolkit, etc.) in the threads here? Some of them are dated, and it does look like they are trying to keep devs on their toes with this one. Also, any advice for what carrier I should go with is MUCH appreciated. I'm leaning T-Mobile, but also hearing things about how their LTE bands are limited in the US right now. Again, I'm not trying to flash a custom rom (yet), I only want to completely unlock it, and I was wondering if I've left anything out. I've already got the SDK, the fastboot files, all that from the suggested threads, for sending any command codes I might have to. I guess I would just like to know if anyone's been in my shoes here, to let me know what to expect. Then again, the fun is in getting right, anyway, isn't it? Sorry if I rambled or my tech speak was off, but I think I've read up pretty well on this phone, and this is the night cap on the studying. Thanks to every one of you for reading and the time and knowledge you give us on this technology. -Mike