I'm completely new to HTC, but not Android (so that's N00b status again), and I have a Developer's Edition coming tomorrow. I'm assuming that I will not need to bother with the process of unlocking the bootloader via htcdev due to it (supposedly) being already. My next issue is, will I be able to root/s-off/supercid using the most common methods mentioned (HSoon's toolkit, etc.) in the threads here? Some of them are dated, and it does look like they are trying to keep devs on their toes with this one. Also, any advice for what carrier I should go with is MUCH appreciated. I'm leaning T-Mobile, but also hearing things about how their LTE bands are limited in the US right now. Again, I'm not trying to flash a custom rom (yet), I only want to completely unlock it, and I was wondering if I've left anything out. I've already got the SDK, the fastboot files, all that from the suggested threads, for sending any command codes I might have to. I guess I would just like to know if anyone's been in my shoes here, to let me know what to expect. Then again, the fun is in getting right, anyway, isn't it? Sorry if I rambled or my tech speak was off, but I think I've read up pretty well on this phone, and this is the night cap on the studying. Thanks to every one of you for reading and the time and knowledge you give us on this technology. -Mike
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Ok, i know theres been a ton of threads about this topic here and in other places. The one on mobile-file has been taken down, and it wasnt an exact how to. The cached version isnt coming up either.
Now, what im looking for, which has yet to be posted, is an exact, step by step, how-to on converting a sprint HTC Hero to Boost Mobile. I know your just taking either a Rant or Incognito you already have activated on Boost and just cloning it, but an exact step by step would be very helpful, with the exact software needed. I dont need to know where to get the software, as i probably already have some of it. I a newb in training and for the past month ive been collecting software from different places, and reading as much as i can. I have 2 HTC Hero's here, ready to try to get on boost, one for me, one for my daughters mother. WE're both on boost already, and i can order a rant or incognito, whichever is easier. What im looking for, is a step by step that is similar to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891077
I think even better would be to get Leviuqse to give us a similar how to, just replacing the Epic with the Hero. YEs I know the Hero is somewhat older, but it was a cheap android phone that was in good shape and has alot of features. I also want to enable the mobile hotspot, so i understand i need to root it. So a how to on rooting it, and which i should do first, root it or flash it would be helpful. Think of writing this for the newbs like me who are just getting into all this and want to learn as much as possible, but this is my first flash and rooting ive ever done, and i dont want to mess it up, and i want to do it right. Can someone write this up or email me with instructions to [email protected]. THANKS MUCH!
This thread is my first at XDA, and from my experience a worthy device to be discussing here.
I am expanding my nerdly endeavors to my new toy these days. I have a solid device in the Bionic, but there's still a feeling of betrayal stabbing into my core.
So what's up with this locked bootloader thing, and what are the implications?
To those, like I, who have bought a Motorola/Droid with a surely locked bootloader, might be wondering WTF?
While trying to boot into recovery, being new to Android phones, I couldn't for the damn succeed. I wonder how many noobs will never root their Motorola phones, as they fail to "Bootstrap" into recovery.
Bootstrapping into recovery, what?
Yes, dear noob if you might humbly continue to read, equipping your bootstraps is quite an important step of the process to being leet,
What you need is a way to change what boots when you start the phone, and after rooting you can install a BOOTSTRAP as it were, to instruct the bootloader as you please. In this case, it would please you to boot RECOVERY. And certainly we all understand the implications of root by now?
Language can be tricky for us newbies! Even then already-nerd kinds!
Here you are dear reader is a reverse-tutorial on our Bionic, and I presume other Motorola Droid branded devices. Let us discuss something more important at hand -- What isn't possible because of the lock-down on what happens when our phone boots? For one, I can't get the hours back I wasted while wondering WTF?
The Bionic is personally my first Android device. My ex-phone (previous to the Bionic) was Windows Mobile 6.1 as it was sold to me. Non-touchscreen I might add. Nobody cared to hack it to bits to see what was possible. From the prison of my old cell phone rose the desire to get back on the right team, where things actually continue to develop and work, and actually get better through time, and where I can freely learn how to do anything on my phone.
Webtop, for me, is something I will be promptly fixing and hacking to bits as time permits.
4G upload rate+inbuilt linux box = i want 2.
My only question remains, what isn't possible on our Bionic?
- No trackball means terminal programs or emulated keyboards typically won't be able to use necessary shortcuts. Ouch,
- Locked bootloader means something I'm not certain how to explain. I will update this note as somebody can explain more pointedly.
And feel free to contribute any elephants or brick walls you might notice about our pimping Droid Bionics. Keep it hacky fellow consumers.
Reserved so I can be the judge of what isn't possible on my damn phone!
(Maybe, I might suggest a different title and moving this to Development for better eyes to contibute?)
I am selling mine tomorrow and buying a rezound for now or maybe trade that in for the GNex. All depends on if the RZD gets s-off in the next couple weeks. I have never had a phone with a locked bootloader, and if you have only had phones with locked bootloaders you don't know what you are missing. I do, and it rubs me raw. Exact reason I went back to my tbolt, and found it to be a better phone. Unlocked bootloader. Will probably never buy a Moto phone again. This has soured my taste for their phones.
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I have owned and rooted and installed ROMS on several devices. But I must say this device is crazy. I wish I would have done some research before hand. It seems HTC has to be by far the worst android phones out. First to unlock a bootloader is stupid long and way too long of a process. Then in order to get a recovery or flash a ROM seems to be bricking peoples phone left and right..I mean really? And to top it off Cant find a straight forward guide anywhere. Bout to just take a sledgehammer to this POS..sorry for venting..
Get the hansoon 2000 toolkit its way easy and don't take long to do anything imo .
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I have owned and rooted and installed ROMS on several devices. But I must say this device is crazy. I wish I would have done some research before hand. It seems HTC has to be by far the worst android phones out. First to unlock a bootloader is stupid long and way too long of a process. Then in order to get a recovery or flash a ROM seems to be bricking peoples phone left and right..I mean really? And to top it off Cant find a straight forward guide anywhere. Bout to just take a sledgehammer to this POS..sorry for venting..
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Wow, return prick mode on!!!!!
If you had rooted before and understood what you are doing you would have done the research FIRST
3rd sticky in the development section is:
[SUPERGUIDE] ICS-Root-Flash-Stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836 since you might have trouble finding a sticky at the top of the list.
and to prevent some further issues here are other related stickies:
[INDEX]HTC Vivid / Velocity / Raider [ROM's/Kernel's/Recovery's/Guide's](September12)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486024
[TOOL] HTC Vivid All-In-One Toolkit V2.2 [6-7-2012] [PERM ROOT] [Noob-Proof]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003
Lastly, as I am sure you have noticed the Noob-proof tag. If people make something idiot proof, the world must produce a bigger idiot to keep the balance.
Number 1 cause of bricked phones, afaik, is insufficient research, preparation, failure to RTFM and user error. so far htc has the easiest method I have come across, what is so hard about pasting a code into a website, then pasting what it put out into the phone?
Sorry man, probably wouldnt have been a prick but there is a sticky with SUPERGUIDE in caps just like that.
Are there easier devices out there to root & ROM? Sure. Is this one THAT bad? I don't think so. In less that one hour you can go from out of the box to custom everything (hboot, recovery, ROM, kernel, splash screen) and S-OFF.
Read the guide linked above and see what steps you need to do. Really, if you're used to working with other devices (and thus are familiar with flashing and adb, fastboot etc) the only off-putting part IMO is the wire trick, and even that only took me 1--15 minutes, and that was screwing it up at least a dozen times first.
It seems to me that a lot of the experienced users out there have trouble with this phone just because it's not exactly the same procedure as their last one... Take a few minutes to read the guides (at least to establish the flow and ORDER of the steps you need to pull off... I mean you don't need to read every step about using fastboot if you already know how) and you should be fine.
All the tools used on this phone as mentioned in these threads work fine, as many many other people have made them work. The only variable is the user.
I had the same feelings about this phone (was an impulse buy on Kijiji at $150)... and I was quite put off by the S-OFF process, until I actually did it and realized a shaved monkey could figure it out.
Hi, my name is Sarah Beland.
I spent way too much time trying to fix my phone, I'm putting up the white flag... don't have anymore time to try and fix everything for myself, and by myself.
I'm looking for no bull efficient help... one I'm willing to pay for in money or other? whatever. I'm starting my own business and need this phone to work correctly, which it does, however, it's stuck in a developer, multi carrier, multi firmware, multi OS development insider programs with upgrades, downgrades that I've lost track of what I actually got.
The phone is a Nokia Lumia 1020 that I bought with the supposed attributes (unlocked, developer)
I've flash it. I've been in the developer program from Microsoft, and I'm had Rogers Canada and Bell Canada on it.
I'm willing to supply any info required to get it to a uniformed and latest firmware/OS together... hoping for Cyan or Denim + and need in all situations for the camera to work!
Is anyone interested?
---- Sarah Beland
[email protected]
Sarah Beland said:
Hi, my name is Sarah Beland.
I spent way too much time trying to fix my phone, I'm putting up the white flag... don't have anymore time to try and fix everything for myself, and by myself.
I'm looking for no bull efficient help... one I'm willing to pay for in money or other? whatever. I'm starting my own business and need this phone to work correctly, which it does, however, it's stuck in a developer, multi carrier, multi firmware, multi OS development insider programs with upgrades, downgrades that I've lost track of what I actually got.
The phone is a Nokia Lumia 1020 that I bought with the supposed attributes (unlocked, developer)
I've flash it. I've been in the developer program from Microsoft, and I'm had Rogers Canada and Bell Canada on it.
I'm willing to supply any info required to get it to a uniformed and latest firmware/OS together... hoping for Cyan or Denim + and need in all situations for the camera to work!
Is anyone interested?
---- Sarah Beland
[email protected]
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Hi, for getting your phone flashed to your desired region please refer to this thread > Flashing Lumia
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Hi, for getting your phone flashed to your desired region please refer to this thread > Flashing Lumia
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Thank you, I've done that already, I must of messed up somewhere, as the camera, after that tutorial, still doesn't work...
Ok, might bring it to a shop? I thought, as huge forum of developers, someone would be able to give insight, a little bit more involved helping and people who make a living developing software for hardware, than simply blindly pointing to a tutorial, that In any situations, always tries to fit all into one.
Maybe, some people, who need help, aren't stupid, or have time for this... For some people, spending hours frustrated, isn't fun, or productive. Maybe I did mess up somewhere, however, I was willing to pay... I clearly expressed in my original post, that I DONTT HAVE TIME TO BE DOING THIS... over and over again, following a linear path, that is accompanied by a thousand people asking why the linear tutorial didn't work for them...???, And the constant answer, is, go back, you messed up, try again.
I don't want to go down that rabbit hole!!!
Thanks.
-Sarah
Sarah Beland said:
Thank you, I've done that already, I must of messed up somewhere, as the camera, after that tutorial, still doesn't work...
Ok, might bring it to a shop? I thought, as huge forum of developers, someone would be able to give insight, a little bit more involved helping and people who make a living developing software for hardware, than simply blindly pointing to a tutorial, that In any situations, always tries to fit all into one.
Maybe, some people, who need help, aren't stupid, or have time for this... For some people, spending hours frustrated, isn't fun, or productive. Maybe I did mess up somewhere, however, I was willing to pay... I clearly expressed in my original post, that I DONTT HAVE TIME TO BE DOING THIS... over and over again, following a linear path, that is accompanied by a thousand people asking why the linear tutorial didn't work for them...???, And the constant answer, is, go back, you messed up, try again.
I don't want to go down that rabbit hole!!!
Thanks.
-Sarah
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Well the flashing procedure is the same for all Lumia handsets, and it is described in detail in the thread i directed you to, if you already flashed as described there and the camera isn't working i'd try getting the handset in a Care point, as at this step there isn't anything you or anybody else on this forum can do to help you, there might be a HW failure.
I have looked around the internet and finally found over on a sprint forum some sad news about rooting. So in the case most of you are unaware, the US models for the Galaxy s9 have had their OEM Unlock(Bootloader unlock) option disabled. I finally found the reason why on an old post back from the Galaxy s8. Please don't harp on me that its a different phone because its the concept discussed that actually gives the real reason why vendors like sprint have disabled the option!
"Link to below quote: community.sprint.com/t5/Samsung-Board/OEM-Unlock-option-is-gone/td-p/965240"]https://community.sprint.com/t5/Samsung-Board/OEM-Unlock-option-is-gone/td-p/965240:
"Quoted from Community manager, seawolf's post!"
Re: OEM Unlock option is gone
First of all, wow @zahale! its my job to be somewhat aware of our current population and to keep an eye out for knowledgeable posters (we like to try to make those people Advocates, like @DJ_Damjano and @Fireguy_6364). I have run across several of your comments in this space lately and you're definitely above the curve when it comes to technical device knowledge and experience. I'm kind of following you around now just to learn Smiley Wink
I was pretty sure I knew why Sprint locks down developer options but I put the question to some of my device folks in conversation yesterday. The explanation probably won't be something you like, but hopefully, it'll be something you can understand. Unfortunately, as with many things, knowing why also won't change anything but you asked a fair question and I wanted to try to give you a fair answer.
Sprint locks things like boot loaders down to control the average customer experience and to prevent a novice user from accidentally damaging the device or negatively affecting performance. While technically such a change isn't Sprint's fault, I can tell you from experience from when I was in customer service that most customers think it is and correcting the problem, if its possible, can be a challenge at best.
Unfortunately, this is an all or nothing kind of situation. We either leave it open for everyone or we lock it down for everyone. Since we can't customize the experience based on user knowledge, we try to optimize it for the novice, which means some of the more advanced setting areas on the phone are locked down.
This is clearly important to you and I can understand why. With this particular phone there isn't anything we can do on our end to unlock the developer options for one individual. When you are ready to upgrade again, you might want to look for factory unlocked versions of the phones you like or OEMs that leave theirs unlocked (although that's harder to verify). In this case, the developer options are not locked down in the factory unlocked versions of the S8 and S8+.
SeaWolf
Sprint Community Manager & Customer Advocate
Captain of the Vicious Cream-puff
I encourage you to post your questions on the community, give Kudos when earned and always mark the correct answer as "Accepted Solution".
Like SeaWolf states, it is just easier after your contract is done to just buy a OEM unlockable version. They do this for customer based reasons to make a novice experience for all users so that new users can't brick their phone on accident messing with settings. Sorry all but OEM unlocking will never be an option for g960U users.
All US (snapdragon) model S9s have a locked bootloader, it has been the case for a long time since at least the S7....
*Detection* said:
All US (snapdragon) model S9s have a locked bootloader, it has been the case for a long time since at least the S7....
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Yes we already know this, but this post is an update on the reason why its that way. I have looked everywhere and even asked around but no one gave me a reason why they made it this way. I finally found this post and was just sharing it for news so that people can finally understand and get an update.
WatchersGrim said:
Yes we already know this, but this post is an update on the reason why its that way. I have looked everywhere and even asked around but no one gave me a reason why they made it this way. I finally found this post and was just sharing it for news so that people can finally understand and get an update.
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but the info is nothing new plus its just a thread of people living in the stone age mixing up sim unlock with oem unlock and then complaining about it.
US snapdagon device's bootlaoder arent unlockable its a very very well know fact. any other device destined NOT for American soil can have its BL unlocked and probably be rooted.( so thats any device made for the rest of the world). surely this info has been plastered all over xda...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...s-recoveries--other-development/root-t4041815
root is out
I have been rooting and modding various and sundry devices since 2011. I find, for my purposes, the s9 doesn't need it. Of course YMMV