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I can tell by what im reading here you all know your stuff very well. I, on the other hand, do not know what the heck your talking about %90 of the time. I HAVE searched the threads to see if I can get some straight info on my dilemma and cant find a simple enough answer to follow. So, im going to ask the question knowing it may have been asked and answered before. This time, im hoping, someone can give me an answer in laymans terms I can actually follow and perform.
My question is this:
I have both an O2 XDA Mini S AND a Cingular 8125. Same unit, different look. The O2 is UNLOCKED, the Cingular is LOCKED. I prefer the Cingular unit but Id much rather have the O2 OS and software. I was told if I was to re-install the O2 operating system (is this known as the ROM?) onto the Cingular device I would not only get the best of both worlds but It would also effectively UNLOCK the Cingular device at the same time (which I need as im not a cingular customer).
Can anyone tell me HOW to do this without all the confusing info and big words. Im not an idiot, im just not inclined technically... at least not this way.
I have used threads on this site to unlock phones before and im very good at following directions. But when the directions start asking for Radio versions and other things like that I just loose it. Is there a simple way to just erase whats on the 8125 and load whats on the XDA Mini S? If I do this is everything going to be screwed up and require a bunch of fiddling around to make all the features work? I dont want to improve on anything, I just want the functionality of the O2 with the form of the Cingular.
Any help with this would be great. I dont require anyone to tell me to search the forums for an answer. If thats what you feel you need to do, just dont post. Ive searched and cant find what im looking for.
Thanks to all those who make this site possible. You make the devices I love work for me when others cant.
Pavmentsurfer
Istructions
Have you already read this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
It's hard to be more clear than this...
Bye 8)
Wow, just read that post RANGEL. Im beginning to think im simply too much of a beginner to do something like this. As I said, im not an idiot, but im not inclined towards this type of stuff. I was hoping for a simple, link to link, step by step walkthrough of how to, quite simply, put an unlocked O2 OS onto my Cingular device. I have no idea what all the technical jargon on that thread you liked to means.
I think ill just take the safe route and stick with my unlocked O2 XDA Mini S and not mess with anything. The last thing I want is to mess up a $500 device. Ill just sell the Cingular device on e-bay.
Thanks for the link though. Unless something much more simple comes along I need to be smart enough to know when im outmatched.
Pavmentsurfer
pavmentsurfer,
I also noticed (it is hard not to) confusing style of these forum. We are maybe just too old...
There are just too many typed letters in these messages. Some threads are speeded on more than 15 pages. :shock:
Who can read all that from the beginning to the end? :roll:
This link, rangel sended, is one of the easiest, but...
I made copy/paste to word all relevant (I hope so) lines. Otherwise it is too hard to follow guide across thread, because it is too many noise around main speaker/writer.
Hey Guys,
Blast me as I know you will --- I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700;
Questions -
(1) After rooting what is the best mod to do --- everyone has something to say buy I am debating from Cynagen vs ModaCo..
(2) Radio upgrades, Is there a new n latest one for my verison of N1
!!
Try "Search"......and wrong section to post this...
I was in the same situation as you! Just got rid of my 9700 and got a N1
I've been playing with Cyanogen 5.0.5.3 and more recently, 5.0.6.1-testing with the new .33.2 Undervolted/Overclocked/Extra RAM kernel. Everything is very snappy compared to stock and I couldn't be happier
I'm still looking around for radio roms
bsshoomez said:
... I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700 ... After rooting what is the best mod to do ...
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I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!
OrganizedFellow said:
I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
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I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
I have to admit, I rooted my Nexus right away.
Having said that, I spent almost a year on my G1 without rooting it. At first I didn't know it was an option. After I started reading about it, I started to realize that it was probably a wise thing to do. It then took me a few weeks of reading to figure out what I actually wanted to do to my phone before I took the leap and finally rooted it and installed CM which made my G1 experience exciting again.
I mention all this because I agree with OrganizedFellow. Spend some time getting to know how Android works before rooting and adding new features. It will help you appreciate the hard work of the devs even more when you do put custom ROMs on your phone.
If you can't wait, I recommend CM. As for the radio, if your phone doesn't lose 3G and stays connected like it should, don't worry about changing the radio. I "had" to change my radio to try getting rid of my 3G issues that the phone shipped with.
mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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in contrast, if youre not super comfortable with going through the whole process just dip your toes in the water first by trolling forums and reading, you can after all brick your phone. I agree with organizedfellow, take your time and find out why and what benefits. i have not rooted yet but leaning closer as i read more and find that i really need the tethering in case im stuck with no wireless while out on a job (also the different color trackball would be sweet). Out side of those im pretty happy with everything stock, add to it with the rumors of himem coming in a future ota update i think i will be set....just that damn tethering...
You cant go wrong with any ROM available right now, but I highly suggest you try Enomther's ROM as well.
mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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are you serious? nobody said anything about the comparison of rooting an android device (software) to modding an xbox 360 (hardware).
So by your logic, someone should jump right into modding their console because replacing the engine in a Boeing 747 is harder.
To the OP. Take the advice of those suggesting that you wait. For starters, you can see if your device has any hardware issues. Yes HTC is warrantying unlocked devices but why not avoid that hurdle and sit on your device for a week or three to just be sure. While you do that, you can read all that you can stomach in these forums and plan your best course of attack.
Welcome to the fray.
OrganizedFellow said:
I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!
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+1 that is some great advice, and I would take it. I was just like you and I last week I rooted my ATT N1. I love it, but I must say that I have put a lot more time into it than I expected. I spent a month before I got the N1 looking into this whole scene and I felt that I had the reasons to root. I would at least spend the time searching forums until all your questions that you have are answered. No body is going to be able to give you a perfect ROM that is for you because there are many different ones out there and what is good for one person may not be the best for another.
I would spend the time to get to know everything before you get going. I would say I know my way around technology pretty well, but if I didn't have the nice folks from this forum I would of had a very hard time with things. When people tell you to "search" they really aren't trying to be rude. To root your phone is a personal choice that only you can make. You are the one that spent the money and people spend a bunch of time making our HTC using lives that much greater.
I spent almost 4 hours last week rooting and unlocking and I have spent easily 30-40 since then learning all that I can learn and I must say that for me it was the right decision because I learned a bunch of things about my phone and now when I have a problem I am comfortable that I can find a way to fix it myself. If I don't then I know where to turn to "search" for help.
If you have any questions I would love to help you out although I am far from a master at this trade. I spent a bunch of time and I have a whole notebook of printouts that I have found in various places all over the web (especially this site) I would be more than happy to send them to you, but just do yourself a huge favor and research, research, research, research, and then when you feel you are done research some more. It will help you in the long run.
Have fun with your phone and good luck
By the way I am running the latest Cyanogen and a few other things. I am having a blast with .apk like the HTC keyboard, and I must say that for me wireless tethering is the greatest thing in the world. I have only touched the very end of this world, and I am so thankful for all the people out there that spend countless hours making our lives a lot easier. I had a bunch of help last week and people really didn't need to spend the time to help me out. I have also messed around with the latest Modaco Sense ROM and I like that a lot as well.
I got help here to root it so I could get a proggy on there that would allow me to get fonts in larger sizes and yes, I'm very happy. HOWEVER, my HOT SPOT feature is not working and I"m guessing that pimpin' it is what did it and NO, I'm too stupid to fix it and the guy that helped me rooting it had no idea what to do. I'm close to Charlotte, NC and I was wondering if there's anyone around here that could help me? Ie, rooting it AND getting my hot spot stuff to work which is one of the reasons I bought this one and paid a small fortune for it.
Thanks and yes, I would be glad to pay a lil' sumptin' for it, take you out to lunch or help YOU out in any way.
George
you may be a noob, but seriously you didn't really expect anyone to have sympathy did you?, we all started somewhere.. hint: start by reading the stickies
God forbid someone would have sympathy but NO, the crying icon was there to spruce the thread up.
I have gotten great help in forums and I've run into a lot of a$$holes if that answers your question?
As for reading the stickies, I have a reading comprehension problem so that doesn't work for me. Of course, you may want to say that this is bull$hit
and I'm just trying to make it easy on my self and yes, I am but no, the reading thing is not bull and reading instructions are useless.
Last time, I had someone talk me through it in a chat and it worked but took around TWO hours. This would not have happened if it had been
done through here or e mail. You'd be talking days or weeks just getting the thing rooted.
However, I"m not sure how helpful your reply is? Plenty of that around the web. Lots of replies in help forums but LITTLE help. Mostly people that
think their $hit don't stink and that they can say anything just 'cause they're anonymous. Sounds like my neighbor. She used to talk all kinds of
$hit about EVERYONE and tell me how she stood up to someone and told them this or that to their face but she never did. Just told ME how damn
cool she was but I never saw any proof of it.
Yeah, it's easy to have an opinion online and make comments about any damn thing...
guiri_too,
Post in your local listings (Craigslist, for example). I'm sure there's probably someone in your area that can help you out.
An online forum isn't really the best setting for what you need. You need someone that knows what they're doing (no offense) to look at your phone and do what needs to be done. Otherwise... read through the threads, find rooting/modding instructions, get a custom recovery image on, make a backup, and flash a new ROM.
If you didn't know what you were getting yourself into, you shouldn't have done it. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, either.
If I ONLY stuck to buying things I completely understood, I would NOT have a damn thing today and no worries, I wasn't insulted.
As for craigslist, haven't found much there but morons but I can give it a try.
However, I KNOW there's plenty of knowledge here, the trick is to find it. LIke I said, I got great help rooting it but now I see there's some problem which I ASSUME is from the rooting.
Note, NOTHING against the guy that helped me out, he did a great job and was very patient so I have no complaints, it's just that now that I found this out, I'd like to get it fixed.
Georg
well man, what you can do is give us some details too.. are you on a custom rom, or stock w/only root, also do you have stock recovery or kosh(sp) or Amon Ra's
If you know how to check you can simply go to about phone and check in there if you are on custom, usually in kernal it will have the devs name.. to find you bout recovery you get the app quickboot(in app market) and hit recovery if you have list of options and i mean a list then you have a custom recovery, if you only have 3 options then its stock..
If you got custom rom& recovery, then you can flash a different rom, this could have broken wifi or something along the way.. so what you do is find a custom rom you like( i say go with enomther) that one is close to stock as possible but with all perks taht are really needed
im new to the n1 communtiy as i barely got my n1 rooted, but i had my g1 for over a year or so and had bout 3 of those, and not much has change except the way to root it
Okie dokie Spanky, I'll see if I can figure it out and post back. I was hopin' someone local that's got more brains than I could pimp it but that's what I get for livin' in the boonies I guess
I've looked all over this site, and found a LOT of great write-ups on how to root these phones. However, I haven't found an easy, start to finish, "Rooting For Dummies" type of write up for those of us with virgin, Build #2.32.651.2, Heros.
Is anyone here willing to post up an up to date, step-by-step write up on exactly what I need to do to root my phone? Imagine that I have zero of the required apps and that I have never "rooted/jailbroken" a phone before. I hate the crap apps Sprint put on here, I'd like to save apps to my 16gb SD card vs waste phone space, I'd like to download homebrew apps, etc...I can't do any of those things with this unrooted phone.
Thank you VERY much in advance for your help!!!
Alberto
I don't think you have looked enough or searched properly. Anyways, here are some links that might help you:
Regaw's rooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909258
Hero CDMA Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
andythegreenguy said:
I don't think you have looked enough or searched properly. Anyways, here are some links that might help you:
Regaw's rooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909258
Hero CDMA Wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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I saw Regaw's rooter thread before making mine, and for those of you who know what he's talking about, it's probably very easy and well layed out. (he seems to know his stuff! But for me, right from the start I'm lost. Specifically the part that states...
Usage:
Run the "Hero Root.exe" on your computer, then plug in your Hero. It will recognize that you plugged it in, and a big button the reads "ROOT ME" will appear. Press that button and watch as your phone is rooted in under 50 seconds from start to finish.
Where and what is the "Hero Root.exe?" Half of the verbiage used is jibberish to me. I was looking for some simpler step-by-step directions...like ones similar to this write-up... http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/htc-hero-root-guide ... but that write up is old and doesn't seem like it would work for my phone. The write-up seems easy enough to understand.
DL this
And also DL this
Then plug in this
Look for this
Type in this
Hold this button down
etc.
I might be asking for too much. If that's the case, sorry. I'm a mechanical, automotive, finance guy, and sometimes electrical guy. The techy stuff (IT, hacking phones, etc) has unfortunately never been my strong suit.
Regaw provides a link to the HeroRoot.exe software in his OP. I think the link takes you to his website and you choose either 32-bit or 64-bit download.
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA Premium App
I got no problems helping a guy out but you may be asking for a cookie bigger than you can eat. Especially after you say your not IT, Tech savvy. If you want to learn we can certainly answer away. But be forewarned this is work. You will at some point not have a working phone for a few minutes or a few hours or a few days. You will read and re-read for hours. You will pull your hair out. You will put your eye out kid.
If you follow the link to Regaw's page at the bottom the link is there for X86 and the other download is for 64bit.
If you cannot gather stuff from the links I have provided, I don't think you should really worry about rooting or installing a ROM. I think you are better off with what you have right now. Take this as friendly advice, not sarcastic.
andythegreenguy said:
If you cannot gather stuff from the links I have provided, I don't think you should really worry about rooting or installing a ROM. I think you are better off with what you have right now. Take this as friendly advice, not sarcastic.
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I 2nd this.
I think maybe my original issue was that I was on a work PC that is VERY restricted in the way of what internet material we're able to see. I originally didn't see links and info.
Working on this now...
"Connected - not a CDMA Hero"
Go find the z4root program. Takes less than a minute to root your Hero. Then you will need a recovery image and you should he all set.
That or super one click. Both are easy and quick.
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I've taken every suggestion in this thread, DLed every single suggested file, followed every single link and all following links, and have found nothing but broken links, crappy non-working files, and have only managed waste a bunch of my time to take up more space on my laptop. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
What an incredible pain in the ass.
SmartPhoneNewb said:
I've taken every suggestion in this thread, DLed every single suggested file, followed every single link and all following links, and have found nothing but broken links, crappy non-working files, and have only managed waste a bunch of my time to take up more space on my laptop. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
What an incredible pain in the ass.
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what I did a long time ago(back in Dec 2010 ) was pull my microsd card out place in a reader put copies of the files on the root of the card aka [bold]/sd [/bold](unrevoked forever, the rom, cwm and gapps..) I was likely to be flashing(or launching) with clockworkmod recovery ..cwm ( now using ra 1.7 as it has been more forgiving to me on flashing) did a few NAND backups using cwm after doing unrevoked then restoring said NAND backups to make sure when I did flash the custom rom that if it borks/I bork that I can do a recovery back to stock(while still under stock you should download and install a file explorer and ,my personal fav, root explorer to be able to see files on your sd card). Pretty much any way to screw it up I've believe I've done it or at least came close to it. I have read of the heroc thread of aosp's gbcm from page 1 up to 1050ish and still a noob. But one thing I'll say is always do a backup( ran 3-10 for awhile as couldn't get any newer to install thru cwm 3xxx or it would do a bootloop/fc on setup, etc.).
So you.downloaded and ran z4root and it didn't work?
SmartPhoneNewb said:
I've taken every suggestion in this thread, DLed every single suggested file, followed every single link and all following links, and have found nothing but broken links, crappy non-working files, and have only managed waste a bunch of my time to take up more space on my laptop. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
What an incredible pain in the ass.
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Pm me and I'll try to help.
Yea it's Me Again With The
Modified Hero
Anyone remember the family guy episode where stewie says "mom,mom,mum,mum,mummy,mommy,mommy mommy,mum,mom,mom,mommy"
sent from a series of tubes.
My 2 cents is that you probably don't need to be rooting. But if you must, read up on RUU.
There's too many chances to accidentally delete the wrong thing with root. Eventually you'll be doing an RUU.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App
Yes my friend, it is a pain in the ass and could potentially waste a lot of your time. Forums exist today solely to help 2 groups of people. Noobs like you and I and Addicts like Me and a lot of other folks. Hang in there or punt, your choice. There are some really nice folks here that will help you too but you have to put in the time, no getting around that.
SmartPhoneNewb said:
I've taken every suggestion in this thread, DLed every single suggested file, followed every single link and all following links, and have found nothing but broken links, crappy non-working files, and have only managed waste a bunch of my time to take up more space on my laptop. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
What an incredible pain in the ass.
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Dude - I'll say it AGAIN, you should seriously reconsider rooting/flashing, if you could not get it done inspite of claiming to have read the information, something's not right.
When I rooted my phone, I just followed the stuff that was on the wiki, it was smooth sailing. I think, with all the information and super devs on this (Hero CDMA) forums, Hero is the easiest to root and handle.
il Duce said:
Anyone remember the family guy episode where stewie says "mom,mom,mum,mum,mummy,mommy,mommy mommy,mum,mom,mom,mommy"
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LMAO... I can SO see that!
I'm completely new to HTC, but not Android (so that's N00b status again), and I have a Developer's Edition coming tomorrow. I'm assuming that I will not need to bother with the process of unlocking the bootloader via htcdev due to it (supposedly) being already. My next issue is, will I be able to root/s-off/supercid using the most common methods mentioned (HSoon's toolkit, etc.) in the threads here? Some of them are dated, and it does look like they are trying to keep devs on their toes with this one. Also, any advice for what carrier I should go with is MUCH appreciated. I'm leaning T-Mobile, but also hearing things about how their LTE bands are limited in the US right now. Again, I'm not trying to flash a custom rom (yet), I only want to completely unlock it, and I was wondering if I've left anything out. I've already got the SDK, the fastboot files, all that from the suggested threads, for sending any command codes I might have to. I guess I would just like to know if anyone's been in my shoes here, to let me know what to expect. Then again, the fun is in getting right, anyway, isn't it? Sorry if I rambled or my tech speak was off, but I think I've read up pretty well on this phone, and this is the night cap on the studying. Thanks to every one of you for reading and the time and knowledge you give us on this technology. -Mike