im running super"D" 1.5.1 with nexus launcher
so what roms dont require a special spl
Nowadays the new ROM's that are coming need the special SPL's like the Danger SPL.
Basically SPL's make it so that bigger ROM's can be flashed onto your phone. If you find a big ROM (by big I mean size) like a 40+ MB ROM you might need a better SPL.
All of them tell you if you need the special SPL or not. Do your own research.
As long as you have a brain in your skull, there is NOT A SINGLE ROM that requires any particular SPL.
Over all others, I STRONGLY recommend the ADP1 stock SPL 0.95.3000.
Macrophage001 said:
Nowadays the new ROM's that are coming need the special SPL's like the Danger SPL.
Basically SPL's make it so that bigger ROM's can be flashed onto your phone. If you find a big ROM (by big I mean size) like a 40+ MB ROM you might need a better SPL.
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There is only one SPL that modifies the partition sizes making it so a larger ROM can be flashed to the G1. That is known as the Danger/Death SPL. The other available SPL's all provide the same sizes.
SPL = Secondary Program Loader.
Also, it takes a ROM that is over ~69MB (on the system partition anyways) to fill the space allocated by the stock G1 partition layout.
daveid said:
There is only one SPL that modifies the partition sizes making it so a larger ROM can be flashed to the G1. That is known as the Danger/Death SPL. The other available SPL's all provide the same sizes.
SPL = Secondary Program Loader.
Also, it takes a ROM that is over ~69MB (on the system partition anyways) to fill the space allocated by the stock G1 partition layout.
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K thanks for explaining it. I wasnt too sure about the specifics
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I use hard spl. But some roms are for death spl. Any advantage. To using it?
as far as i know, it is the spl from the magic/sapphire and it frees up more space in /system and /data and i would assume takes some from /cache.
since it clears up more space in /system it allows you store more stuff in there which is what the hero roms do.
the advantage is more space in /system and /data
according to your sig you have the danger spl which is the 1.33.2005 spl, i am confused
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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you still confuse me with your sig, boot your phone up with camera and power and tell me what is displayed there for the numbers above radio.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
My advice is to only flash the "Danger SPL" if you intend on trying Hero.
Otherwise just use Hard SPL.
You can use the link in my signature if you wish to proceed.
However you will not be able to flash any nandroid system.img backups on top of that SPL which means that once you flash that SPL you need to start with a wipe and a fresh ROM. You can always flash your userdata with fastboot afterwards to restore your data.
Things you may want to get before starting:
Latest radio (MUST!)
Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery
Full ROM update (ie Cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom)
Partition your class 6 (suggested) sdcard to FAT32/EXT3/Linux-Swap (type 1) for HERO roms.
Yes it's a lot of work for a noob but it's worth it as long as you don't brick your phone (high risk if you don't follow instructions).
southsko said:
Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
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You're incorrect, the hero app and app_s folder are on the SD but the system remains in NAND. The Hero system is too large to fit with Hard or Eng SPL and the Haykuro SPL is a necessity.
If you wish to experience a Hero build without using the death spl, you can use the one of the Micro Hero builds at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179
Hi. I've two G1s. One with Haykuro SPL and one another with the default one. Both of them are running Dwang 1.11.
What's the advantage of the Haykuro SPL over the default one? Just the possibility of installing Hero (or completely different) firmwares or is it also a matter of speed? I've read it repartitions the internal phone memory, but somewhere I've also read it may also speed up the phone. Is it still true or has it been outdated by the apps2sd roms?
Thank you
draga said:
Hi. I've two G1s. One with Haykuro SPL and one another with the default one. Both of them are running Dwang 1.11.
What's the advantage of the Haykuro SPL over the default one? Just the possibility of installing Hero (or completely different) firmwares or is it also a matter of speed? I've read it repartitions the internal phone memory, but somewhere I've also read it may also speed up the phone. Is it still true or has it been outdated by the apps2sd roms?
Thank you
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Haykuro's "danger spl" just unlocks more memory for the roms
Ex. JF 1.5 on normal spl= 54mb
JF 1.5 on danger spl= 90mb
No advantage at all.. it just moves things around meaning larger roms can be flashed without moving data around. If it had never existed, we'd just be moving the files manually.. all it does is save us a bit of time.
I believe it removes the partition for OTA updates, then increases the size of /system and /data to fill the space. Other than being able to more ROMs (mainly HTC based) it has Fastboot which can be very useful, which the stock SPL doesn't have.
Fail andrian
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Fail andrian
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lmao i hope your talking about his grammar cause hes right
@OP the supposed speed increase is just related to the data partition being bigger...dont think that the speed increase will have any effect on everyday use.
Nope, andrian just fails. He doesn't eat meat
don kiedic said:
Nope, andrian just fails. He doesn't eat meat
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i dont eitherrrrr
Well that explains why you are up all hours of the night and day b-man
Will Android 2.0 eclair fit on the g1 board? or will it be like the hero builds and need Haykuro SPL?
Or does no one knows until the source is released?
Also if it doesnt fit wouldnt that mean that all new android build to come will not fit on the g1 leaving it in the stone age? unless using Haykuro SPL or some other means to shrink the /system and /app
i think g1 will get 2.0 whenits released by a ota but then again only time can tell
xile6 said:
Will Android 2.0 eclair fit on the g1 board? or will it be like the hero builds and need Haykuro SPL?
Or does no one knows until the source is released?
Also if it doesnt fit wouldnt that mean that all new android build to come will not fit on the g1 leaving it in the stone age? unless using Haykuro SPL or some other means to shrink the /system and /app
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We honestly don't know if it's going to be pushed out OTA. I reckon a slightly watered down version will be released.
Once the source comes out we'll be able to cook up some 2.0 ROMs, but as with OTA some things will probably have to be left out.
SPL really doesn't come in to it, as 1.33.2005 with extra space in /system and /data isn't available to unrooted users. Tmo is hardly going to tell it's users to root and flash the SPL, or issue an SPL update OTA as all the users data will be wiped. Also, I believe 1.33.2005 adds extra space to /system and /data by removing a partition required for OTA updates, not 100% on that though.
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We honestly don't know if it's going to be pushed out OTA. I reckon a slightly watered down version will be released.
Once the source comes out we'll be able to cook up some 2.0 ROMs, but as with OTA some things will probably have to be left out.
SPL really doesn't come in to it, as 1.33.2005 with extra space in /system and /data isn't available to unrooted users. Tmo is hardly going to tell it's users to root and flash the SPL, or issue an SPL update OTA as all the users data will be wiped. Also, I believe 1.33.2005 adds extra space to /system and /data by removing a partition required for OTA updates, not 100% on that though.
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Is that why roms need the spl? For extra space? I havent done much HW on spl but is it also needed to use foreign roms for compat and stuff?
Ace42 said:
Is that why roms need the spl? For extra space? I havent done much HW on spl but is it also needed to use foreign roms for compat and stuff?
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Nope the 'Special' SPL repartitions the internal memory of the G1 allowing for larger ROMs such as the Hero has to be ported on to the G1.
Space will be a major issue for 2.0. 1.6 was a almost filling up the system partition.
However there are reports that the G1 in europe will get 2.0 when its released, this supposed has been stated by Tmobile however all the sources that Ive found that report on this are in a foreign language and nothing points back to any sort of post on Tmobile offical site.
The android mods on the tmo forums also states that the G1 will get 2.0 but I dont know if he was refering to a cooked ROM or an offical release.
How much space does the spl give? I was messing around with a my touch @ tmobile and they got like 250mb free. Also I know that when you install the spl you do radio then spl right? (Its late n I'm a lil sleepy so could be wrong) but let say don't want the new spl can u revert back to hard/eng spl and radio without bricking
Yes you can revert
the .2005 gives /system and /data 90mb of space
radio first, then confirm it flashed, then flash spl
Hey all, I've been rocking CM5 anySPL by Firerat, but it has some memory issues on my G1, so I've been looking to upgrade to CM6, and hopefully improve speed as well. Unfortunately, I decided to flash the HardSPL onto my system instead of Danger/DeathSPL when rooting it (I have no clue why, probably just naive).
Anyway, I'm looking to get Danger/DeathSPL on my system so that I will be able to enjoy CM 6, and would like some help with putting it on (I don't want to brick my phone!). And I do have the latest radio flashed on my system.
Go with the new mtd-partition method from Firerat and you will not need to have DangerSPL installed. It's more flexible and more secure.
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dtptampa said:
Hey all, I've been rocking CM5 anySPL by Firerat, but it has some memory issues on my G1, so I've been looking to upgrade to CM6, and hopefully improve speed as well. Unfortunately, I decided to flash the HardSPL onto my system instead of Danger/DeathSPL when rooting it (I have no clue why, probably just naive).
Anyway, I'm looking to get Danger/DeathSPL on my system so that I will be able to enjoy CM 6, and would like some help with putting it on (I don't want to brick my phone!). And I do have the latest radio flashed on my system.
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There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for you to be messing with your SPL.
IN FACT, if you want the best storage allocation possible, you will end up using a partition table that doesn't match ANY known SPL.
Specifically, though the 1.33.2005 SPL recommended by CM does reduce the size of the cache partition and expand both the system and userdata partitions, the cache partition is STILL way bigger than it needs to be!
With a custom partition table, which you can achieve with ANY SPL (including the one you already have), you can have a system partition the same size as the 1.33.2005 allocation, and a userdata partition that is FIFTEEN MEGABYTES LARGER than the 1.33.2005 allocation.
When dealing with CM6, unless you apply extra hacks, you will end up being stuck with froyo2sd for installing applications to the sdcard. Froyo2sd is a terribly slow bloated memory hog of a pig and will slow your phone down to being virtually unusable. The more space you have on the userdata partition, the fewer applications (possibly zero) you will need to install to froyo2sd, and the faster the thing will run.
I ***HIGHLY*** recommend that you DO NOT waste your time with 1.33.2005. It is not required, not useful, and has the potential to cause actual HARM.
The SPL that I **DO** recommend is 1.33.2003 (ending with a THREE). This SPL is FULLY COMPATIBLE with your phone and if you currently have a 0.95.x000 SPL installed (hspl that you have is 0.95.3000 with a modified version string to add in a "1" at the start), then you can install it with ZERO RISK. The 1.33.2xxx series of SPLs are HIGH-engineering SPLs offering you the ability to fastboot flash the radio image. The 0.95.3000 SPLs are MILD-engineering SPL -- they offer fastboot, but limit the partitions accessible in that manner... the ability to fastboot flash the radio can be useful later on when/if it comes time to update the radio image.
Hi,
I have dangerspl and RADIO 2_22_23_02.
Can I user this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139) Radio and keep my spl or must I flash both, the radio and the spl, to get more ram?
Is the spl in this thread better than dangerspl or what is the difference?
Can the hack be used with COS-DS?
~Thau
If you want to get additional 14MB, you need to install both: the new radio and the new spl. In addition you need also a special kernel for the roms, but this shouldn't be a problem.
The 1.33.0013d SPL is not "better", in contrary it's more restricted (it's a perfected SPL), but it's needed to get the additional ram. For me it's worth to go that way, but you need to decide by yourself.