I use hard spl. But some roms are for death spl. Any advantage. To using it?
as far as i know, it is the spl from the magic/sapphire and it frees up more space in /system and /data and i would assume takes some from /cache.
since it clears up more space in /system it allows you store more stuff in there which is what the hero roms do.
the advantage is more space in /system and /data
according to your sig you have the danger spl which is the 1.33.2005 spl, i am confused
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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you still confuse me with your sig, boot your phone up with camera and power and tell me what is displayed there for the numbers above radio.
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Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
My advice is to only flash the "Danger SPL" if you intend on trying Hero.
Otherwise just use Hard SPL.
You can use the link in my signature if you wish to proceed.
However you will not be able to flash any nandroid system.img backups on top of that SPL which means that once you flash that SPL you need to start with a wipe and a fresh ROM. You can always flash your userdata with fastboot afterwards to restore your data.
Things you may want to get before starting:
Latest radio (MUST!)
Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery
Full ROM update (ie Cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom)
Partition your class 6 (suggested) sdcard to FAT32/EXT3/Linux-Swap (type 1) for HERO roms.
Yes it's a lot of work for a noob but it's worth it as long as you don't brick your phone (high risk if you don't follow instructions).
southsko said:
Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
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You're incorrect, the hero app and app_s folder are on the SD but the system remains in NAND. The Hero system is too large to fit with Hard or Eng SPL and the Haykuro SPL is a necessity.
If you wish to experience a Hero build without using the death spl, you can use the one of the Micro Hero builds at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179
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Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.
Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.
Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.
Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:
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no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?
Yes I've searched.
Yes I've posted in appropriate threads.
No I haven't recieved any answers.
Yes I'm getting frustrated and decided to post the question.
With that out of the way.
This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the non-Hero rom, can't you use nandroid restore to restore your previous backups instead of having to start over with an update.zip file? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)? Or perhaps once you've installed your non-Hero update.zip file can you use nandroid restore to go back to your exact settings while keeping the new spl?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero? Is it worth the risk of bricking your phone? I've been on the fence trying to decide whether to risk it or not and I've been very curious to try Hero but not at the cost of losing everything that I currently have and possibly bricking my phone just for the sake of curiousity.
Thanks.
Binary100100 said:
Yes I've searched.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero?
Thanks.
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Nothing.
Use it if you want to run Hero rom.
If you do not want to run the hero based rom's, just stick with hardspl.
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Nothing.
Use it if you want to run Hero rom.
If you do not want to run the hero based rom's, just stick with hardspl.
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Right... but I'm curious enough to try the Hero rom's. But if they are not stable (such as lack of bluetooth etc) then I would like to restore my current backups. Would such be possible and still keep the new spl?
Binary100100 said:
Yes I've searched.
Yes I've posted in appropriate threads.
No I haven't recieved any answers.
Yes I'm getting frustrated and decided to post the question.
With that out of the way.
This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the non-Hero rom, can't you use nandroid restore to restore your previous backups instead of having to start over with an update.zip file? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)? Or perhaps once you've installed your non-Hero update.zip file can you use nandroid restore to go back to your exact settings while keeping the new spl?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero? Is it worth the risk of bricking your phone? I've been on the fence trying to decide whether to risk it or not and I've been very curious to try Hero but not at the cost of losing everything that I currently have and possibly bricking my phone just for the sake of curiousity.
Thanks.
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If you make a nandroid before flashing the new SPL then I believe you will get the Hard SPL back but the new SPL is worth it because you get more Internal Memory, I think it's like 89 MB and you get to test out any Hero ROM you want, if you do decide to flash new SPL then use the 3rd post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 as a tutorial, it worked perfect for me.
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If you make a nandroid before flashing the new SPL then I believe you will get the Hard SPL back but the new SPL is worth it because you get more Internal Memory, I think it's like 89 MB and you get to test out any Hero ROM you want, if you do decide to flash new SPL then use the 3rd post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 as a tutorial, it worked perfect for me.
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I really doubt that.
Binary100100 said:
Right... but I'm curious enough to try the Hero rom's. But if they are not stable (such as lack of bluetooth etc) then I would like to restore my current backups. Would such be possible and still keep the new spl?
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If you don't like Hero after you flash new SPL and everything (by the way Bluetooth does not work in any Hero ROM yet) just use your nandroid to go back to the way you were and flash new SPL from there, you don't have to flash Hero at the same time your flashing new SPL it can be the current ROM you're on.
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I really doubt that.
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I said I believe, so if you have the proof that it doesn't then don't just post "I really doubt that" give the man the info he needs.
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I said I believe, so if you have the proof that it doesn't then don't just post "I really doubt that" give the man the info he needs.
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No, I'm not sure either.
Thats why I just said...I doubt it.
So worse case scenario, other the the possibility of bricking, is I do the backup, install the new spl, attempt to restore and if it doesn't restore the hard spl and if I do keep the haykuro spl (which provides about 10mb of extra internal storage) it might not work because of the storage difference that has been allocated for the hardspl. Theory 1.
I backup my current rom, Cyanogen 3.9. I install haykuro's spl, I install the Cyanogen 3.9 update.zip file. I nandroid restore my previous backup (pre-hero spl) and enjoy the extra memory and the possibility of experimenting a Hero rom with the new spl tonight at work. Theory 2.
Which sounds more likely?
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So worse case scenario, other the the possibility of bricking, is I do the backup, install the new spl, attempt to restore and if it doesn't restore the hard spl and if I do keep the haykuro spl (which provides about 10mb of extra internal storage) it might not work because of the storage difference that has been allocated for the hardspl. Theory 1.
I backup my current rom, Cyanogen 3.9. I install haykuro's spl, I install the Cyanogen 3.9 update.zip file. I nandroid restore my previous backup (pre-hero spl) and enjoy the extra memory and the possibility of experimenting a Hero rom with the new spl tonight at work. Theory 2.
Which sounds more likely?
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I'd go with "Theory 2"
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I'd go with "Theory 2"
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Thank you very much.
I'll probably give it a try later tonight.
With the recovery 1.4 out I won't need another sdcard and won't even need to rename the zip files. Makes it easier.
Binary100100 said:
Thank you very much.
I'll probably give it a try later tonight.
With the recovery 1.4 out I won't need another sdcard and won't even need to rename the zip files. Makes it easier.
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You're welcome and let me know how it works out for you in a PM, oh and don't forget to put [Solved] in the Thread title if you feel as though it was.
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You're welcome and let me know how it works out for you in a PM, oh and don't forget to put [Solved] in the Thread title if you feel as though it was.
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Just got a good answer that gave me hope.
rondey- said:
...Prior to flashing the haykuro spl I made a nandroid backup of the cyanogen rom I was using. I tested a hero rom and restored a nandroid backup of the cyanogen rom I was running and the new radio/spl were in place.
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Binary100100 said:
Just got a good answer that gave me hope.
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Yea I saw and went to that thread after my last post, so now we all know.
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Yea I saw and went to that thread after my last post, so now we all know.
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I flashed the new spl and I'm re-installing CM 3.9 now. I'll edit with updates.
Edit 1
First instead of installing the update.zip I decided to just try a restore from recovery. It wouldn't let me. I'll try to do a restore after the rom is flashed.
Edit 2
Installed CM 3.9 update (did NOT wipe) and it installed fine.
I have 68 MB of available space in phone storage.
busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 47.8M 0 47.8M 0% /dev
tmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals
/dev/block/mtdblock3 90.0M 59.1M 30.9M 66% /system
/dev/block/loop0 640.0K 640.0K 0 100% /system/modules
/dev/block/loop1 2.4M 2.4M 0 100% /system/xbin
/dev/block/mtdblock5 89.8M 21.4M 68.4M 24% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 30.0M 1.1M 28.9M 4% /cache
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.1G 358.7M 682.0M 34% /system/sd
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.1G 358.7M 682.0M 34% /data/dalvik-cache
/dev/block//vold/179:1
13.8G 11.3G 2.5G 82% /sdcard
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Edit 3
I just noticed that I did have 2 splash screens (not the animated ANDROID). After installing the new spl I now only have the first one. Doesn't matter that much. Just worth mentioning. Edit 3b tried to add the second boot screen by "fastboot flash splash2 mysplash.rgb565" and got "writing 'splash2'... FAILED (remote: partition does not exist!) I perfered the splash2 boot screen so I just replaced splash1 with splash2. No big. I'll be trying Hero later! For now... gotta finish getting ready for work. Thanks!
I have a question about installing this new spl. I'm currently running Cyan 3.6.8.1 and I want to try out a Hero ROM. I'm going to completely nuke my phone by repartitioning my card and flashing back to RC29. My question is while in RC29 after I do the telnet commands and update my recovery can I update my radio, Haykuro's SPL, and start up back to RC29 so I can drag n drop the rom file onto my sd or will I need to keep the ROM file I want in my sd card to install through recovery?
Also to make sure I don't brick my phone (yes I have a PVT board) I'm going to list the steps I'm going to take
-While still using Cyan 3.6.8.1 boot into recovery, wipe, and repartition my SD card
-Place RC29 and original SPL onto SD card at startup then reboot into recovery, wipe, load original SPL, reboot, and install RC29
-Follow telnet commands using this guide off this forum then place new radio, haykuro's spl, and cyan's 1.4 recovery on SD card
-After updating recovery update radio then SPL
-Wait for startup (if I didn't brick my phone) to place new rom file onto sd card then reboot in recovery to install new rom
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Edit 2
Installed CM 3.9 update (did NOT wipe) and it installed fine.
I have 68 MB of available space in phone storage.
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How much free memory did you have prior to flashing the new spl?
Anyone wanna help the noob?
hard spl or this one http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/? and why?
To run cyanogen, or to run cyanogen and hero roms? Thats the question
I'm assuming this is on a G1? If so, just make sure you have the requirements to flash the "Danger" SPL as it can brick your phone and also flash the radio FIRST!!!!!!!!!
Unlike stock, both HardSPL and 'Danger' (It's actually 1.33.2005) feature fastboot, but 1.33.2005 repartitions your nand so you have more room in /system and /data so your phone can accomidate Hero/Rogers ROMs which require the extra space.
If you want Hero, then you must have 1.33.2005. Before you flash it, check your baseband band version in Settings > About and make sure it ends in 26i. Also boot in to the SPL (home+camera) and make sure you have a PVT board phone. If you meet both of those requirements then flash it and you should be fine. Afterwards boot in to recovery, type 'ums_enable' and copy your ROM to the SD card, after wards type 'ums_disable' then 'reboot recovery' and wipe then flash your ROM.
Also if you're using cyanogens recovery, use alt-s to flash the radio or SPL (Radio first) then home+back to reboot. Do not touch the trackball or it will not flash properly.
so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?
ianandamy said:
so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?
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No and no.
What phone do you have?
Dream(rogers) or g1(tmo)
You didnt say which spl/radio you have either.Also only hero roms need that spooky/haykuro spl every is scared of
I am looking into upgrading to the Haykuro SPL since it works for all ROMs and the HardSPL doesn't work for all ROMs, but I am worried about bricking. According to what I've read, and on Haykuro's website, I need to
1. Flash Latest Radio
2. Flash Special SPL
I've already flashed the new radio, do I need to do it again then flash the SPL back to back, or am I OK since I already have the radio.
I just want to do it right so I don't brick.
Thanks.
which radio did you flash? htc or haykuro?
you should flash the haykuro radio again just to be safe, but it doesnt have to be back to back as long as you have the haykuro radio. Make sure its the 26I radio by booting into the spl
that's the one 26I, but I made do it again just to make sure. Will not hurt huh? Thanks
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that's the one 26I, but I made do it again just to make sure. Will not hurt huh? Thanks
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Flash it again if you wan't, personally I wouldn't. No reason to, and every time you flash the Radio or SPL, whether you meet the requirements or not there's always a tiny, minute chance something could go wrong.
As long as you have the 26i radio, you'll be fine.
If you're using cyans recovery make sure you flash it using alt-s then reboot using home+back. Do NOT touch the trackball, if you don't use alt-s, home+back it will not be flashed correctly. It won't brick, it just simply won't install.
Good luck, you'll be fine. I spent over an hour flashing Danger because I was sh*ting myself worrying about bricking, but it went fine
Afterwards you wont we able to boot the phone because the nand has been formatted and partitioned. If you boot in to recovery and type 'ums_enable' you will be able to copy a rom to your SD card, then 'ums_disable' to unmount.
That alt-s, home+back thingmajig only applies for radios and SPLs, nothing else.
Well the reason i told him to flash the radio again is because some people are actually bricking when using the stock 26I radio. IDK if its cause they are noob or because there is some problem with it, so its safer to reflash.
Hey Dookie (NCSU here), are you just dying to flash a hero rom or something? I'm not certain if it is true, but I read if you flash the Danger SPL, you may be stuck with that one and not be able to flash another.
I'd be cautious, hero is not worth being stuck with that SPL or a brick in my opinion.
you can revert the SPL, nothing is keeping it tied it on there
Hey all, I've been rocking CM5 anySPL by Firerat, but it has some memory issues on my G1, so I've been looking to upgrade to CM6, and hopefully improve speed as well. Unfortunately, I decided to flash the HardSPL onto my system instead of Danger/DeathSPL when rooting it (I have no clue why, probably just naive).
Anyway, I'm looking to get Danger/DeathSPL on my system so that I will be able to enjoy CM 6, and would like some help with putting it on (I don't want to brick my phone!). And I do have the latest radio flashed on my system.
Go with the new mtd-partition method from Firerat and you will not need to have DangerSPL installed. It's more flexible and more secure.
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follow my steps bro its plain simple and tooo easy. so i promise you cant mess up this and you cant brick your phone because we have recovery but go to this link
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dtptampa said:
Hey all, I've been rocking CM5 anySPL by Firerat, but it has some memory issues on my G1, so I've been looking to upgrade to CM6, and hopefully improve speed as well. Unfortunately, I decided to flash the HardSPL onto my system instead of Danger/DeathSPL when rooting it (I have no clue why, probably just naive).
Anyway, I'm looking to get Danger/DeathSPL on my system so that I will be able to enjoy CM 6, and would like some help with putting it on (I don't want to brick my phone!). And I do have the latest radio flashed on my system.
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There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for you to be messing with your SPL.
IN FACT, if you want the best storage allocation possible, you will end up using a partition table that doesn't match ANY known SPL.
Specifically, though the 1.33.2005 SPL recommended by CM does reduce the size of the cache partition and expand both the system and userdata partitions, the cache partition is STILL way bigger than it needs to be!
With a custom partition table, which you can achieve with ANY SPL (including the one you already have), you can have a system partition the same size as the 1.33.2005 allocation, and a userdata partition that is FIFTEEN MEGABYTES LARGER than the 1.33.2005 allocation.
When dealing with CM6, unless you apply extra hacks, you will end up being stuck with froyo2sd for installing applications to the sdcard. Froyo2sd is a terribly slow bloated memory hog of a pig and will slow your phone down to being virtually unusable. The more space you have on the userdata partition, the fewer applications (possibly zero) you will need to install to froyo2sd, and the faster the thing will run.
I ***HIGHLY*** recommend that you DO NOT waste your time with 1.33.2005. It is not required, not useful, and has the potential to cause actual HARM.
The SPL that I **DO** recommend is 1.33.2003 (ending with a THREE). This SPL is FULLY COMPATIBLE with your phone and if you currently have a 0.95.x000 SPL installed (hspl that you have is 0.95.3000 with a modified version string to add in a "1" at the start), then you can install it with ZERO RISK. The 1.33.2xxx series of SPLs are HIGH-engineering SPLs offering you the ability to fastboot flash the radio image. The 0.95.3000 SPLs are MILD-engineering SPL -- they offer fastboot, but limit the partitions accessible in that manner... the ability to fastboot flash the radio can be useful later on when/if it comes time to update the radio image.