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[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks

1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.

Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?

alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.

No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^

Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?

He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-

Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!

Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.

This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.

As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.

Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake

Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!

I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

How to avoid brick when updating to Haykuro's SPL.

Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.

Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.

Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.

Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.

no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.

Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.

Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:

keatonreckard said:
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?

what is haykuro death spl

I use hard spl. But some roms are for death spl. Any advantage. To using it?

as far as i know, it is the spl from the magic/sapphire and it frees up more space in /system and /data and i would assume takes some from /cache.
since it clears up more space in /system it allows you store more stuff in there which is what the hero roms do.
the advantage is more space in /system and /data
according to your sig you have the danger spl which is the 1.33.2005 spl, i am confused

Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.

ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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you still confuse me with your sig, boot your phone up with camera and power and tell me what is displayed there for the numbers above radio.

ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)

My advice is to only flash the "Danger SPL" if you intend on trying Hero.
Otherwise just use Hard SPL.
You can use the link in my signature if you wish to proceed.
However you will not be able to flash any nandroid system.img backups on top of that SPL which means that once you flash that SPL you need to start with a wipe and a fresh ROM. You can always flash your userdata with fastboot afterwards to restore your data.
Things you may want to get before starting:
Latest radio (MUST!)
Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery
Full ROM update (ie Cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom)
Partition your class 6 (suggested) sdcard to FAT32/EXT3/Linux-Swap (type 1) for HERO roms.
Yes it's a lot of work for a noob but it's worth it as long as you don't brick your phone (high risk if you don't follow instructions).

southsko said:
Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
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You're incorrect, the hero app and app_s folder are on the SD but the system remains in NAND. The Hero system is too large to fit with Hard or Eng SPL and the Haykuro SPL is a necessity.

If you wish to experience a Hero build without using the death spl, you can use the one of the Micro Hero builds at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179

help with which spl and why?

hard spl or this one http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/? and why?

To run cyanogen, or to run cyanogen and hero roms? Thats the question

I'm assuming this is on a G1? If so, just make sure you have the requirements to flash the "Danger" SPL as it can brick your phone and also flash the radio FIRST!!!!!!!!!

Unlike stock, both HardSPL and 'Danger' (It's actually 1.33.2005) feature fastboot, but 1.33.2005 repartitions your nand so you have more room in /system and /data so your phone can accomidate Hero/Rogers ROMs which require the extra space.
If you want Hero, then you must have 1.33.2005. Before you flash it, check your baseband band version in Settings > About and make sure it ends in 26i. Also boot in to the SPL (home+camera) and make sure you have a PVT board phone. If you meet both of those requirements then flash it and you should be fine. Afterwards boot in to recovery, type 'ums_enable' and copy your ROM to the SD card, after wards type 'ums_disable' then 'reboot recovery' and wipe then flash your ROM.
Also if you're using cyanogens recovery, use alt-s to flash the radio or SPL (Radio first) then home+back to reboot. Do not touch the trackball or it will not flash properly.

so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?

ianandamy said:
so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?
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No and no.

What phone do you have?
Dream(rogers) or g1(tmo)
You didnt say which spl/radio you have either.Also only hero roms need that spooky/haykuro spl every is scared of

Radio and SPL questions

so after many many Cyanogen releases, my phone is not as responsive as it once was. I am wondering if I should wipe and reflash the devphone ota update then cyanogens and if I do will it brick my phone? I have the 22i radio and the "Danger" spl. From what i remember, the ota update writes the radio. It is the 22i one, but with it rewriting it will it brick my phone when it does?
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should i just do a wipe and reflash just cyanogens?

you mean you have the 26I radio...
Are you talking about the HTC recovery ota that you flash first before you flash before Cyanogen's?
That is basically what HTC refers to as an update.zip
If it does flash over the radio, which I don't think it does, it already is the 26I radio, so it won't hurt anything.
But I have flashed over Cyanogen several times using the same process, and it has not bricked my phone. You will have no problems either.

Yes sorry, the 26I, and i am talking about the update.zip that you flash before Cyanogen's. I thought I was ok, i just wanted to check that rewriting the radio, even if it is the same wouldn't brick the phone

This may be the wrong thread but I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm running dwang 1.17.1 with a 26I radio. Can I flash the haykuro "danger" "death" spl? I want it because some themes require it. I have the correct board "PVT" when I look in fastboot, I'm just wondering since I have the ram hack if this will brick my phone or not. Noob question, I lnow. TIA. Ill post this else where if needed... ill watch family guy till then

you have the radio that you need to flash over the spl.
the ram hack has nothing to do with the spl. it is only for that rom. for example, if you have cyanogen 4.2.11.1 and you upgrade to 4.2.12.2, the ram hack goes away. It's part of the boot.img.
You can flash the danger spl, but be warned, even if you have everything right, there is still a possibility that something could go haywire and it could brick your phone.
afterwards, you will have to reflash a rom once the spl successfully installs.
Good luck.

Thanks taz. Ill try it out