help with which spl and why? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hard spl or this one http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/? and why?

To run cyanogen, or to run cyanogen and hero roms? Thats the question

I'm assuming this is on a G1? If so, just make sure you have the requirements to flash the "Danger" SPL as it can brick your phone and also flash the radio FIRST!!!!!!!!!

Unlike stock, both HardSPL and 'Danger' (It's actually 1.33.2005) feature fastboot, but 1.33.2005 repartitions your nand so you have more room in /system and /data so your phone can accomidate Hero/Rogers ROMs which require the extra space.
If you want Hero, then you must have 1.33.2005. Before you flash it, check your baseband band version in Settings > About and make sure it ends in 26i. Also boot in to the SPL (home+camera) and make sure you have a PVT board phone. If you meet both of those requirements then flash it and you should be fine. Afterwards boot in to recovery, type 'ums_enable' and copy your ROM to the SD card, after wards type 'ums_disable' then 'reboot recovery' and wipe then flash your ROM.
Also if you're using cyanogens recovery, use alt-s to flash the radio or SPL (Radio first) then home+back to reboot. Do not touch the trackball or it will not flash properly.

so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?

ianandamy said:
so if I am just going to use themes then I really don't need to do the hard spl or the other one?
I assume it doesn't change the speed of the phone at all either?
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No and no.

What phone do you have?
Dream(rogers) or g1(tmo)
You didnt say which spl/radio you have either.Also only hero roms need that spooky/haykuro spl every is scared of

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How to avoid brick when updating to Haykuro's SPL.

Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.
Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.
Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.
Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:
keatonreckard said:
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?

want hero rom

running cyanogen 4.01, but i want to run one of the hero roms but i cannot for some unknown reason install the new spl. my question is does cyanogen have any hero roms or after numerous attempts how do i get the new spl.tried at least 3 different methods.
Do you have cyanogen's recovery image? If so, do not use the trackball to reboot the phone or even apply the spl, rename it to update.zip, then flash it with the keyboard commands, also do not go to the reocvery console to reboot, you must use home and back to reboot the phone or else the spl will not write. I have had this problem before and that is how i fixed it.
Cyan does not make any hero roms, what do you mean that you can not get the spl for it, do you also have the newest radio flashed, gotta give some more info
radio
i have 2.22.19.26I radio. if that is wrong then i just need to find the right one. and i will do that.
I believe that is the correct radio, so just follow david's solution then

what is haykuro death spl

I use hard spl. But some roms are for death spl. Any advantage. To using it?
as far as i know, it is the spl from the magic/sapphire and it frees up more space in /system and /data and i would assume takes some from /cache.
since it clears up more space in /system it allows you store more stuff in there which is what the hero roms do.
the advantage is more space in /system and /data
according to your sig you have the danger spl which is the 1.33.2005 spl, i am confused
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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you still confuse me with your sig, boot your phone up with camera and power and tell me what is displayed there for the numbers above radio.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
My advice is to only flash the "Danger SPL" if you intend on trying Hero.
Otherwise just use Hard SPL.
You can use the link in my signature if you wish to proceed.
However you will not be able to flash any nandroid system.img backups on top of that SPL which means that once you flash that SPL you need to start with a wipe and a fresh ROM. You can always flash your userdata with fastboot afterwards to restore your data.
Things you may want to get before starting:
Latest radio (MUST!)
Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery
Full ROM update (ie Cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom)
Partition your class 6 (suggested) sdcard to FAT32/EXT3/Linux-Swap (type 1) for HERO roms.
Yes it's a lot of work for a noob but it's worth it as long as you don't brick your phone (high risk if you don't follow instructions).
southsko said:
Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
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You're incorrect, the hero app and app_s folder are on the SD but the system remains in NAND. The Hero system is too large to fit with Hard or Eng SPL and the Haykuro SPL is a necessity.
If you wish to experience a Hero build without using the death spl, you can use the one of the Micro Hero builds at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179

Upgrading to Haykuro SPL

I am looking into upgrading to the Haykuro SPL since it works for all ROMs and the HardSPL doesn't work for all ROMs, but I am worried about bricking. According to what I've read, and on Haykuro's website, I need to
1. Flash Latest Radio
2. Flash Special SPL
I've already flashed the new radio, do I need to do it again then flash the SPL back to back, or am I OK since I already have the radio.
I just want to do it right so I don't brick.
Thanks.
which radio did you flash? htc or haykuro?
you should flash the haykuro radio again just to be safe, but it doesnt have to be back to back as long as you have the haykuro radio. Make sure its the 26I radio by booting into the spl
that's the one 26I, but I made do it again just to make sure. Will not hurt huh? Thanks
raptoro07 said:
that's the one 26I, but I made do it again just to make sure. Will not hurt huh? Thanks
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Flash it again if you wan't, personally I wouldn't. No reason to, and every time you flash the Radio or SPL, whether you meet the requirements or not there's always a tiny, minute chance something could go wrong.
As long as you have the 26i radio, you'll be fine.
If you're using cyans recovery make sure you flash it using alt-s then reboot using home+back. Do NOT touch the trackball, if you don't use alt-s, home+back it will not be flashed correctly. It won't brick, it just simply won't install.
Good luck, you'll be fine. I spent over an hour flashing Danger because I was sh*ting myself worrying about bricking, but it went fine
Afterwards you wont we able to boot the phone because the nand has been formatted and partitioned. If you boot in to recovery and type 'ums_enable' you will be able to copy a rom to your SD card, then 'ums_disable' to unmount.
That alt-s, home+back thingmajig only applies for radios and SPLs, nothing else.
Well the reason i told him to flash the radio again is because some people are actually bricking when using the stock 26I radio. IDK if its cause they are noob or because there is some problem with it, so its safer to reflash.
Hey Dookie (NCSU here), are you just dying to flash a hero rom or something? I'm not certain if it is true, but I read if you flash the Danger SPL, you may be stuck with that one and not be able to flash another.
I'd be cautious, hero is not worth being stuck with that SPL or a brick in my opinion.
you can revert the SPL, nothing is keeping it tied it on there

Radio and SPL questions

so after many many Cyanogen releases, my phone is not as responsive as it once was. I am wondering if I should wipe and reflash the devphone ota update then cyanogens and if I do will it brick my phone? I have the 22i radio and the "Danger" spl. From what i remember, the ota update writes the radio. It is the 22i one, but with it rewriting it will it brick my phone when it does?
or
should i just do a wipe and reflash just cyanogens?
you mean you have the 26I radio...
Are you talking about the HTC recovery ota that you flash first before you flash before Cyanogen's?
That is basically what HTC refers to as an update.zip
If it does flash over the radio, which I don't think it does, it already is the 26I radio, so it won't hurt anything.
But I have flashed over Cyanogen several times using the same process, and it has not bricked my phone. You will have no problems either.
Yes sorry, the 26I, and i am talking about the update.zip that you flash before Cyanogen's. I thought I was ok, i just wanted to check that rewriting the radio, even if it is the same wouldn't brick the phone
This may be the wrong thread but I'm hoping I can get some help. I'm running dwang 1.17.1 with a 26I radio. Can I flash the haykuro "danger" "death" spl? I want it because some themes require it. I have the correct board "PVT" when I look in fastboot, I'm just wondering since I have the ram hack if this will brick my phone or not. Noob question, I lnow. TIA. Ill post this else where if needed... ill watch family guy till then
you have the radio that you need to flash over the spl.
the ram hack has nothing to do with the spl. it is only for that rom. for example, if you have cyanogen 4.2.11.1 and you upgrade to 4.2.12.2, the ram hack goes away. It's part of the boot.img.
You can flash the danger spl, but be warned, even if you have everything right, there is still a possibility that something could go haywire and it could brick your phone.
afterwards, you will have to reflash a rom once the spl successfully installs.
Good luck.
Thanks taz. Ill try it out

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