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How do I tell if my wizard is still CID unlocked?
You spelt "stuipid" wrong.
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You spelt "stuipid" wrong.
Please change your post title to something useful, so people know how to help you.
Try clicking here for further moral support:
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Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
Vjay has a good point, you'll have a better chance of getting a response simply by taking the time to write a meaningful topic title.
A good example would be, oh I don't know "How do I tell if my wizard is still CID unlocked?"
You this way if I know how to answer your question then I would know that I can provide the answer from the forum index.
On the other hand I really don't know the answer to "I have a stupid question" and just might figure that the poster must not really want an answer since they could not be considerate enough as to provide a meaningful subject.
BTW, I do know how to find-out if a device is CID unlocked (and it is quite simple)..
sk7575: as a moderator, I'm expected to expound the philosophy and morality of the forum as well as I can, and to keep the forum in check as far as possible.
I use the “View Posts Since Last Visit” button to review all posts, very often, through the day. I try to answer every post I feel competent to impart useful information on. Your post title is unhelpful to me and every other member who might otherwise be able to help you. It doesn’t particularly bother me that you don’t wish to provide an unhelpful topic title, but if you take the address off your house, how do you expect people to find you?
if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more.
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I do have better things to do then delve into every unhelpful post. I do wish to get out more, but I'm stuck here responding to your "stuipid question".
Anyway, unfortunately I don't have a Wizard, so can't help you with CID locking etc, but I'm sure others could help you. Once again, I advise you to change the title of this thread.
I can do it for you if you're on citysearch.com.
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Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
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Dude. You do not like vijay when he is angry And of all the members here, vijay is not the one you want to mess with You ought to be new here.
Anyway, if you want to make sure your phone is CID unlocked, just unlock it again. No harm done unlocking it twice.
If you want to CID-lock your phone (e.g. you should have stated this clearly on your question, so I do not have to list out 2 different scenario), the software you used to unlock your phone will have instruction how to lock it back using the CID-lock backup file it generates.
If you wanted to CID-lock your phone because.. ..
Anyway, I can list out many scenario, better if you just let us know what and why you want it.
V
PS thanks for updating the topic title sk7575. See, it got an answer in the end!
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sk7575 said:
Dude. Seriously, if you have nothing better to do than to critique people's posts on an online forum, you need to get out more. I suggest www.citysearch.com or something to find things to do. Just a suggestion.
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Dude. You do not like vijay when he is angry And of all the members here, vijay is not the one you want to mess with You ought to be new here.
Anyway, if you want to make sure your phone is CID unlocked, just unlock it again. No harm done unlocking it twice.
If you want to CID-lock your phone (e.g. you should have stated this clearly on your question, so I do not have to list out 2 different scenario), the software you used to unlock your phone will have instruction how to lock it back using the CID-lock backup file it generates.
If you wanted to CID-lock your phone because.. ..
Anyway, I can list out many scenario, better if you just let us know what and why you want it.
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Thank you for your response, but I do believe I was pretty clear with my question. I simply want to know if there is any setting that can be checked to determine if it is unlocked or not, without having to unlock it again. If I wanted to know how to lock I would have asked "how do I CID lock it" .
To my knowlwdge you can't tell. Myself, I'd just unlock the phone, but that's me.
I have to agree with the Doctor, after posting your "stupid Question", you could have unlocked your phone at least 20 times with all programs available on this forum.
Then your "stupid question" would have been answered.
But here you are 24 hours later....................
still would be nice to see CID-lock-status without being forced to do an unlock..
Speaking only for myself, I've never cared whether I could tell if my device was locked or not. After making the decision that I was solely responsible for anything that I did to my PDA, most certainly voiding my warranty, and most likely not caused by nor endorsed by any present administration, I unlocked my CID and my SIM.
Now I am truly free indeed!
Any custom ROM updates published here i.e.: not official vendor updates, require that your phone is unlocked, period.
As I said, I speak only for myself, but after being here for a while I think I have the pulse of the contributors here regarding this. Unlock your phone. If you can't remember if you did, then unlock again. It's really no big deal.
thank you fellas, for the lesson on how to alienate people
I won't express any self-doubt or in this forum.
Janis, remember that most people are on the board because they need help, or want to help. sk7575 didn't do himself many favours by originally using an unhelpful post title. Fortunately he's corrected that - unfortunately, he hasn't quite found the answer he was looking for.
The guys and gals on the board can be *****y and obtuse, but at the same time, they can make exceptionally generous contributions of their time. I get a surprising number of posts from people saying that they are too frightened to post questions on the forum. This surprises me - everyone should read the forum rules (try clicking on my flaming V to find them), try searching the forum and wiki, but after that, any question goes as far as I'm concerned.
I hope that we don't alienate, and frankly, being geeks, we're probably all racked with self doubt and bad body odour. C'est la vie - it's the human condition.
Apologies to all offended!
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Janis, remember that most people are on the board because they need help, or want to help. sk7575 didn't do himself many favours by originally using an unhelpful post title. Fortunately he's corrected that - unfortunately, he hasn't quite found the answer he was looking for.
The guys and gals on the board can be *****y and obtuse, but at the same time, they can make exceptionally generous contributions of their time. I get a surprising number of posts from people saying that they are too frightened to post questions on the forum. This surprises me - everyone should read the forum rules (try clicking on my flaming V to find them), try searching the forum and wiki, but after that, any question goes as far as I'm concerned.
I hope that we don't alienate, and frankly, being geeks, we're probably all racked with self doubt and bad body odour. C'est la vie - it's the human condition.
Apologies to all offended!
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Thanks for your assistance Vijay. I got better responses once I fixed my topic.
Regarding people being afraid to post. I'm not surprised. This forum, like any other tech forum, is full of 75% type A personality people that are intolerant and *****y when they think people ask questions that are beneath them. Not everyone is great at troubleshooting, and not everyone wants to spend the time that some of us do researching problems. Sometimes, non-tech people may come here, and all they want is an answer, and a quick answer. there is nothing wrong with that. They probably see the bigger picture better than some of us.
It always baffled me why people post *****y responses in forums. take for example the people that responded to my posts saying "just unlock again". Yeah, thats an answer, but is it too much to ask for some utility that checks if you are unlocked? My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
My point?? If people dont like the question, just ignore it and move on. Even had I asked my original question in the new more detailed fashion I ended up asking it a day later, I still would've gotten the "just unlock it again" responses from people. To those people I again say, just ignore it if you are going to respond with a silly answer.
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My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
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That would have been a fabulous original post for this thread, especially if you included the errors your were getting. Any details help others, I'd be willing to bet you'er not the first member here to encounter those issues.
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sk7575 said:
My question was asked like that for a reason -- i was trying to flash some ROMs, was having some issues, and when I went to CID unlock it was giving me some errors. I came to find out later that it had nothing to do with CID unlocking, it was in fact unlocked, but it would've been nice to see an indicator of such.
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That would have been a fabulous original post for this thread, especially if you included the errors your were getting. Any details help others, I'd be willing to bet you'er not the first member here to encounter those issues.
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You still dont get it then. You all didnt need to know those details, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS AN INDICATOR OF WHETHER THE BOOTLOADER WAS UNLOCKED.
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You still dont get it then. You all didnt need to know those details, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS AN INDICATOR OF WHETHER THE BOOTLOADER WAS UNLOCKED.
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I understand that completely but from the description you posted the problem wasn't even related to CID unlock status. Had you posted the actual issue chances are very good that within the first few responses someone would have pointed you in the right direction because they had experienced the same thing.
You see the problem you were trying to solve wasn't CID unlock but rather the errors you received while flashing the ROM. You thought it was related to CID unlock but in the end you were wrong. Had you stated the actual problem you were experiencing then you probably would have gotten to the solution a lot quicker.
That is the point I'm trying to make.
Hi Guys
i need your help i just bought an HTC Diamond yesterday and i am dissapointed, the device has a number of issues 1 is that the touch flo is not smooth and there is about 3 to 5 secs lag time, second is that the battery life is crap. anyways i read on the net that an updated ROM can fix these issues, the current ROM VERSION i am using is 1.35.456.3 WWE, please let me know if there are newer ROM versions and where i can download them,p.s. will ROM upgrade actually fix the battery life issues as well as memory leak. I really hope that the touch pro doesn't have all these issues.
This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself
you can find all your answers in my signature link
to answer your question without the entire search first part:
1. yes there is a newer one
2. look in the diamond development rom section
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This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself
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Has it ever occured to you that one might be in a hurry to solve a big issue, if you can't help a new comer and direct them corrctly then u should keep your comments to your self. I mean we are humans and we all make mistakes but that doesn't mean you come out and bite people's heads off. Thats the problem with the world today instead of stopping and helping u choose to be agressive and blame them, anyways i am happy to say that other more thoughtful members of this forum helped me. Thanks..
Well, I don't really want to flame your posts but Rorydaredkign is right maybe not the right way to say it
The information you seek are just 2 clicks away from the button "new topic" and a little search might help find anything you need but obviously you did not take a bit of your time to browse the forum...
As a new comer, do not take anything for granted!
@original poster
If you can get 1.37 to load up and apply some of the settings in the Diamond Tweaks sticky you will find things a lot better.
I would stay away from tweak number two in that thread though as most people have found it renders their handset inoperable and have to hard reset. However, as you will have to hard-reset to upgrade anyway you might want to give it a go.
I agree with you about the aggression. I understand the power of search but when you're new, a string of posts telling you to use the search, when it would have been quicker to answer the question, is unnecessary - and not really community spirited.
Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory
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rorydaredkign said:
Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory
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And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.
arisg said:
And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.
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Well for one, I know how to search
And the thing is, like I said, normally I would search myself, then post a link, but when there's an actual forum called Diamond ROM Development, I couldn't be ****ed.
And you say its posts like this which have made me senior, but you're wrong.
Granted, I tell people to search, and I should probably just say nothing, but before, people have told me off for describing in detail something which can be found by a 2 word search or in the wiki.
So don't just think I go round telling people they're noobs, I don't usually, But here I have.
Rory
Peace, people! This forum isn't the right place for this kind of discussions
ok guys since i started this i will make an attempt to end it,
"rorydaredkign"- i understand ur frustration and i am sure your senior member due to more positive reasons than knowing how to search, but it is wrong to bite people's heads of just because they do not know something even though it is two clicks or one click away, i mean take an example ur in a new place u have never been and when u ask for directions people bit ur head off and tell u why not get a map. You should put ur self in my shoes, i just purchased the diamond its expensive and its not working propoerly so i was freaking out and was trying to get help as quickly as possible, if i had time on my hand i would sit and search and go through the whole forum. There is no need to go around calling people names we are all mature here and name calling is something we all left back in junior school, by you going around the forum and calling people noobs just displays u as an unprofessional character, This forum is set up so that people everywhere can assist each other and share the knowledge, so please lets burry this hatchet and try our level best to maintain strong good community. Let us leave this issue behind us and move on with what is really important. Not that there is a need to applogise but i feel i should applogise for asking a question when i could have searched and found what i was looking for. Having said that i still enjoy this forum i think its fantastic and there is alot to learn from everyone here, thanks to everyone for their contribution.
Installed JF 1.5 (cupcake) and myfavs are gone. Is this normal as NOT part of the build?
I would like to get back if possible.
Also in the brouser auto-rotate was possible in JF 1.42 r33 and now its not working at all and landscape is not a feature under settings.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
TIA
Please, please, please read and search the existing threads (in this case the JF 1.5 thread) rather than starting a new thread.
In general I favor creating a new thread when you have a specific question for anything, the exception being about about the custom ROMs. The convention here is to keep the ROM discussion to the ROM thread and it does cut down on the noise in the forums.
In this case both of your questions have been answered on JFs 1.5 thread (multiple times)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3722985&highlight=Myfaves#post3722985
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3728201&highlight=rotate#post3728201
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Please, please, please read and search the existing threads (in this case the JF 1.5 thread) rather than starting a new thread.
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Sorry but I do have a life and I don't always the time to read thru 28 pages. If I have the time I do search and read!!! I'm sure you never started a thread with a question that has been already answered!!!
Anyways!!! Thanks for the links!!!
Might I humbly suggest if you do not have time to search and read then wait until you do have time? Everyone here (with the possible exception of myself) has lives as well and would just as soon not have to do others work for them.
It took me longer to type my post than it did to search and provide you the links. In the time it took you to do your posts you could have gotten the answers yourself.
And yes I have asked questions and had it pointed out to me that the question has been asked before and been provided a link to the answer. However I have never posted a question on a forum without first searching as thoroughly as possible. Never. Probably why I have to ask very few questions.
Regardless of how u feel I'm sure this thread will help others.
Again, Thanks for the links!!!
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However I have never posted a question on a forum without first searching as thoroughly as possible. Never. Probably why I have to ask very few questions.
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This is a process informally called "lurking", which could be better described as "doing your own goddamn work instead of making other people do it for you." Unfortunately with the widespread attention xda has gotten lately, the ratio of the lazy to the productive has risen significantly.
OP: You don't have a right to run JF software (i.e. it is provided as-is), nor is anyone obligated to provide you troubleshooting. If you don't have the time to read through the sticky threads, then like JP said you should find the time or learn how to better use the search function.
This thread had the opposite effect of helping me... it falsely got up my hopes that the MyFaves app is available, which I previously believed it to not be, having read the rom threads....
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This thread had the opposite effect of helping me... it falsely got up my hopes that the MyFaves app is available, which I previously believed it to not be, having read the rom threads....
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I as well thought someone added myfaves.apk to jf1.5 and re-signed it.
The JF cupcake 1.5 is an ADP version, which by default doesnt include myFaves. You can always wait for another update.
Hope that helps
You know what's even more annoying than someone not searching? ...
People who act like forum police/moderators and jump on the posters back with rude comments and a holier than thou attitude.
Instead of writing paragraphs about how YOU would post- maybe you should either not write anything at all, or, gasp, be curteous and friendly- help someone out, then kindly point out the search function if necessary.
What a concept.
Yeah, some of these threads get up to 200+ pages, with thousands of posts along with it, even a search will bring up a lot of posts. Not all of us have the time (as we work, or go to school, or have lives outside of the internet) to sit down and read through all of them. So it would be easier to answer the OP's question, and just end it there, then to tell him to search and complain like your on hormone pills, haha
But back to the OP question, any T-mobile apps will not be present in an ADP build. We just have to wait until someone gets a hold of the T-mobile build. So until then, just flash back to RC33 if you need myfaves.
You can auto rotate the browser (although other apps will use this function as well) by going to:
SETTINGS > SOUND & DISPLAY
then under "Display settings" make sure "Orientation" is checked, then your browser will rotate.
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Not all of us have the time (as we work, or go to school, or have lives outside of the internet) to sit down and read through all of them. So it would be easier to answer the OP's question
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Option A: Everyone who has a problem spends the time to read the entire sticky post, not only solving their problem but also learning in the process.
Option B: Everyone who has a problem posts the same goddamn question over and over again on these forums. The real developers and hackers get sick of it and leave xda-dev.
I choose A.
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Option A: Everyone who has a problem spends the time to read the entire sticky post, not only solving their problem but also learning in the process.
Option B: Everyone who has a problem posts the same goddamn question over and over again on these forums. The real developers and hackers get sick of it and leave xda-dev.
I choose A.
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I just answered the OP's question, so the thread should have no further discussion unless he has more questions. All questions can not be answered with the information found in the sticky threads, so there are people like me, and many other people in these forums who are more than willing to help out another person trying get things running smoothly. If you don't have anything positive to say to the OP and get them going in the right direction, just let other people help.
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OP: You don't have a right to run JF software (i.e. it is provided as-is), nor is anyone obligated to provide you troubleshooting. If you don't have the time to read through the sticky threads, then like JP said you should find the time or learn how to better use the search function.
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Your right NO ONE is obligated to answer my question(s) "and YOUR NOT obligated to respond, so stay the hell out of my thread if your not willing to help!!!"
monotremata and CBowley... sorry didnt mean to miss lead you, thats why I added the "?" mark to the thread.
And to vr24 and andonnguyen thanks for your help and understanding.
Silly of me to think that WE ARE ALL HERE to help each other instead of acting like we are the sh!t and know-it-all's!! Ever try to read 5 pages of a thread using your G1 let alone 20+
Remember where you came from and how it felt not to know things and how it felt to be overwhelmed by all this info and how to apply it. Maybe then you will NOT act like a-holes.
I vote we all complain that proprietary, crappy T-Mobile software don't exist on NON T-Mobile builds of Android. You know, the way it's been since ADP phones were released in 2008. Oh yeah, and we all need to keep acting surprised when they continually don't show up in ADP builds. I think that's best for everyone.
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Silly of me to think that WE ARE ALL HERE to help each other instead of acting like we are the sh!t and know-it-all's!! Ever try to read 5 pages of a thread using your G1 let alone 20+
Remember where you came from and how it felt not to know things and how it felt to be overwhelmed by all this info and how to apply it. Maybe then you will NOT act like a-holes.
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Sorry, you're completely right: There's no point to having stickied threads or search buttons. Everyone should just start a new thread whenever they have a question, regardless of how many times that question has already been asked. Catering to the newbies who are too lazy to use forum tools and letting them overrun the forum is the best thing for the forum. I have seen the light!
postscript: sorry for bumping this failure of a thread, but newbie spam like this is choking out the real purpose this forum and I feel like unless someone takes a stand, [email protected] is going to lose relevance (assuming it hasn't already).
I was kind of hoping this thread would just die away once it left the front page but since it is back...
Lakers3408 said:
Silly of me to think that WE ARE ALL HERE to help each other instead of acting like we are the sh!t and know-it-all's!!
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We are here to help each other. The first step in that is following, or at least considering, the rules set forth on the forums. They are here to help make the forum better. The first 2 are:
1) Search first
2) Be polite
Call me a know it all if you like. It does not change the fact that I am gently (and politely) trying to get you to do what is helpful to everyone on the forums. The vast majority of users here can follow these rules, why not you? I have not called you any names nor denigrated you in any fashion. I am simply asking you to be considerate to other forum users and mindful of the rules. By posting threads like this you generate noise in the forums that makes it harder to find new/original content. This is not an end user forum but one dedicated to technical users capable of researching answers.
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Ever try to read 5 pages of a thread using your G1 let alone 20+
Remember where you came from and how it felt not to know things and how it felt to be overwhelmed by all this info and how to apply it. Maybe then you will NOT act like a-holes.
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No need to read 20+ pages, “search this thread” works just fine on the G1. It is easier than posting as a matter of fact since you do not need to login and requires less typing.
Remeber YOU DONT HAVE TO REPLY, period!! No matter how you feel, YOU DONT HAVE TO REPLY.
In case you cant read, YOU DONT HAVE TO REPLY.
Spanish: usted no tiene que responder
German: Sie haben keine Antwort
French: vous n'avez pas de réponse
Italian: Non si hanno per rispondere
You are NOT obligated/required to reply to anyones thread.
If you want to help then do so, if you dont then dont.
Again THANKS for the links!!!
Now please be a grown up and let this die I already got my answer
While it is sometimes said in an off-putting manner, the forum rules clearly state that you are required to search for the answer to your question prior to creating a new thread. If a search does yield the answer(s) you seek, then find an existing thread related to your problem.
For example: There are several active threads related to Cupcake, so you could have posted in one of those, as opposed to creating a new thread.
Thank you for your understanding. Thread closed.
hi guys i have lg 4x hd (Rooted) after i rooted my phone and installing ROM Manger when i tried to go to recovery mode i saw red words lge_Security and lg logo please i need help cant insert images because this is my first thread sorry for bad english
tetoteto1234 said:
hi guys i have lg 4x hd (Rooted) after i rooted my phone and installing ROM Manger when i tried to go to recovery mode i saw red words lge_Security and lg logo please i need help cant insert images because this is my first thread sorry for bad english
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refer to my signature. stop using big letters.
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refer to my signature. stop using big letters.
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First of all, this should be moved to the Q&A section, and he may use big letters if he wants too, if he wasn't allowed then xda would remove the feature i'm sure.
If you could update your signature with links to tut's of how to do each step it would help a lot more then just " Look at my Signature " Your signature is not helpful at all to new users. " Unlock Bootloader " Well how do you expect someone who has never done it before to know the steps in which to take to undergo the unlocking procedure.
Checl out the " Sticky's Roll Up Thread " In the General/Q&A section " and you should be able to find the corresponding methods to help you get flashing and onto your desired Rom, welcome to the community, any other problems, feel free to open a thread and we will be sure to help you as soon as possible (Have a search first thou ofcourse )
Happy Flashing bro.
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First of all, this should be moved to the Q&A section, and he may use big letters if he wants too, if he wasn't allowed then xda would remove the feature i'm sure.
If you could update your signature with links to tut's of how to do each step it would help a lot more then just " Look at my Signature " Your signature is not helpful at all to new users. " Unlock Bootloader " Well how do you expect someone who has never done it before to know the steps in which to take to undergo the unlocking procedure.
Checl out the " Sticky's Roll Up Thread " In the General/Q&A section " and you should be able to find the corresponding methods to help you get flashing and onto your desired Rom, welcome to the community, any other problems, feel free to open a thread and we will be sure to help you as soon as possible (Have a search first thou ofcourse )
Happy Flashing bro.
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big letters are there to emphasize something. if you're using it in normal post, it's just as douchy as writing in full-caps.
my signature has enough info to point every newcommer into right direction. it's there to make sure they do steps in the right sequence. details can be found by searching the (sub)forum. also, my signature is the answer to his question on what he did wrong - he flashed custom recoveery without unlocking bootloader. once he knows what he did wrong, he can move on to fixing it and doing it properly.
i honestly don't understand why people expect to be spoonfed info? why are people lazy to read stickies/search forums? they will get their answer faster that way, instead of waiting for someone to provide them with everything in another thread they created.
i really dont want to sound entitled, *****y or anything. but the amount of people hijacking threads, posting new threads improperly, and generally not being good users is too high. thats why i added the info i did to my signature, so people can "follow the breadcrumbs" to solve their problems. cheers.
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big letters are there to emphasize something. if you're using it in normal post, it's just as douchy as writing in full-caps.
my signature has enough info to point every newcommer into right direction. it's there to make sure they do steps in the right sequence. details can be found by searching the (sub)forum. also, my signature is the answer to his question on what he did wrong - he flashed custom recoveery without unlocking bootloader. once he knows what he did wrong, he can move on to fixing it and doing it properly.
i honestly don't understand why people expect to be spoonfed info? why are people lazy to read stickies/search forums? they will get their answer faster that way, instead of waiting for someone to provide them with everything in another thread they created.
i really dont want to sound entitled, *****y or anything. but the amount of people hijacking threads, posting new threads improperly, and generally not being good users is too high. thats why i added the info i did to my signature, so people can "follow the breadcrumbs" to solve their problems. cheers.
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Well most users need more then breadcrums, say you got your first Android Device, and it was an expensive device to you and you was scared about bricking it or whatever, you wouldn't want to use intuition for something that could potential screw you over. For Example, i'm not going to become a Qualified Chef by searching and following Top recipes online am i?! It's not gonna help me achieve anything, a tutor who can Point you in the right direction and who can Help you out with steps you don't understand, and who will be there to answer any Problems you face.
Sometimes most people prefer to be Taken through tutorials Step by Step and your signature is very minimal. So therefor should not be used as the answer. It's users like you that cause so many duplicate threads to be opened.
If your not going to answer the question fully, and with enough information (Links) then don't bother answering it and leave it someone else who can provide the correct information. If it has already been answered, link him to the corresponding thread and give him the reassurance that a PM is all he needs if he doesn't understand what is the thread. The reason you have SOO many more POSTS then THANKS is because what you are posting is not helpful to other users. If you are going to have a tut in your sig and want people to follow it, add links otherwise don't bother posting half assed answers. It's not helpful. If your not gonna do a good job and get annoyed by noobs. Leave xda.
For information on how to follow this guys half assed unhelpful signature, go here and make you sure 1. Upgrade to JB (Officially) 2. Root 3. Unlock Bootloader (Various Methods, use whichever works for you) 4. Flash recovery (TWRP/CWM, Personal choice) 5. Flash whatever you like!
Stickies found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2225910
Any problems drop me a PM, It's what xda users are meant to be here for, to help eachother out!
penguin449 said:
Well most users need more then breadcrums, say you got your first Android Device, and it was an expensive device to you and you was scared about bricking it or whatever, you wouldn't want to use intuition for something that could potential screw you over. For Example, i'm not going to become a Qualified Chef by searching and following Top recipes online am i?! It's not gonna help me achieve anything, a tutor who can Point you in the right direction and who can Help you out with steps you don't understand, and who will be there to answer any Problems you face.
Sometimes most people prefer to be Taken through tutorials Step by Step and your signature is very minimal. So therefor should not be used as the answer. It's users like you that cause so many duplicate threads to be opened.
If your not going to answer the question fully, and with enough information (Links) then don't bother answering it and leave it someone else who can provide the correct information. If it has already been answered, link him to the corresponding thread and give him the reassurance that a PM is all he needs if he doesn't understand what is the thread. The reason you have SOO many more POSTS then THANKS is because what you are posting is not helpful to other users. If you are going to have a tut in your sig and want people to follow it, add links otherwise don't bother posting half assed answers. It's not helpful. If your not gonna do a good job and get annoyed by noobs. Leave xda.
For information on how to follow this guys half assed unhelpful signature, go here and make you sure 1. Upgrade to JB (Officially) 2. Root 3. Unlock Bootloader (Various Methods, use whichever works for you) 4. Flash recovery (TWRP/CWM, Personal choice) 5. Flash whatever you like!
Stickies found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2225910
Any problems drop me a PM, It's what xda users are meant to be here for, to help eachother out!
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this was my first android device. paid it 300 euro of my hard earned money. before i bought it, i sat down, read about the android, read about the device, read the stickies, followed the tutorials. if i encountered an error, i searched if someone else already had it. if i could not find someone else with the same issue, i'd post new topic/post.
there ARE tutorials around the site, i'm well aware of that. my signature isn't step-by-step tutorial, it's there to POINT PEOPLE INTO RIGHT DIRECTION, and it's doing it's job as i've been told.
on the other hand, you're not a mod - you dont have the right to tell me what i should or should not post, as long as it's within the rules (and this guys topic is totaly out of the rules - wrong subforum, question asked numerous times). i have 5:1 post to thanks ratio becouse i ask and discuss a lot. helping someone once in five posts is good enough for me. for you it seems, it's just a measure of your e-peen.
in the end, you enable breaking of rules by letting people know it's ok to open another and another and another topic on same issues that have been discussed numerous times over. with not telling them that what they're doign is wrong, you're enabling every other noob that comes here to, instead of search for answers to his questions, to open another topic anywhere he pleases, flood the forum with useless posts and not be sanctioned by it.
atleast i tell them proper ettiquete - and the ettiequete is for them to search more for answers to questions already answered.
now i'll say it again, you're not a mod, so you telling me to "leave xda" has zero to none practical effect. i will post whatever i want within the rules of the forum.
ending my post on a not-as-assholish note as your post is, i wish you all the best. over and out from this thread.
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this was my first android device. paid it 300 euro of my hard earned money. before i bought it, i sat down, read about the android, read about the device, read the stickies, followed the tutorials. if i encountered an error, i searched if someone else already had it. if i could not find someone else with the same issue, i'd post new topic/post.
there ARE tutorials around the site, i'm well aware of that. my signature isn't step-by-step tutorial, it's there to POINT PEOPLE INTO RIGHT DIRECTION, and it's doing it's job as i've been told.
on the other hand, you're not a mod - you dont have the right to tell me what i should or should not post, as long as it's within the rules (and this guys topic is totaly out of the rules - wrong subforum, question asked numerous times). i have 5:1 post to thanks ratio becouse i ask and discuss a lot. helping someone once in five posts is good enough for me. for you it seems, it's just a measure of your e-peen.
in the end, you enable breaking of rules by letting people know it's ok to open another and another and another topic on same issues that have been discussed numerous times over. with not telling them that what they're doign is wrong, you're enabling every other noob that comes here to, instead of search for answers to his questions, to open another topic anywhere he pleases, flood the forum with useless posts and not be sanctioned by it.
atleast i tell them proper ettiquete - and the ettiequete is for them to search more for answers to questions already answered.
now i'll say it again, you're not a mod, so you telling me to "leave xda" has zero to none practical effect. i will post whatever i want within the rules of the forum.
ending my post on a not-as-assholish note as your post is, i wish you all the best. over and out from this thread.
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Now you see this is the main reason that i have more respect then you do from other users, just stop being such a butthurt little childish kid about it and HELP THEM OUT if the thread is duplicate, link them to the correct one and report the thread. simple as.
XDA Rules may state search before posting, so chances are they probably have already! And that's why they're opening a new thread. You was a noob once, how would you have liked it if people were being ass's to you?! Because compared to me your a noob, and i may start treating you like you are dense and know nothing. XDA Rules can be bent. so what if he opens a new thread. It can be closed, moved, and deleted if it needs to be, if you don't bloody like it don't look on it.
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't bloody say it at all, it's the internet, let him post where he wants and what he wants. you can always request it to be maintained.
Goddamn butthurt users. We are here to help, not be ass's because we want to feel less noobish then the next guy
Rule 1 clearly states, that you shall read the thread first and then ask questions. So, most questions are answered in the first post. In my case people are asking again and again "is the rom quitable for model XY" and similar things. This is obviously a violation of rule 1. I wouldn't mind, but the threads are growing rapidly. 50% is just asking this question, 20% is "can confirm that bug xy is present" or "installation not working", while not following the instructions, which is also useless. 10% is asking for feature xy, usually for an unfinished rom, which is not working 100%. So only 20% is really information. As the threads grow and grow you are literally unable to find the information you are looking for and people don't look too, they even don't read the first post; they just ask. And the thread grows with this spam.
I hinted someone to read the first post. The answer was right there. My post was deleted with the hint "If you don't help then shut up". But really, is this necessary? I don't know if I'm the only one, but posts like these should be deleted with a hint, that the poster should read the first post. This would make the threads clearer, cleaner and shorter.
Any ideas on that?
I completely agree with you. People should definitely read more and ask less.
Great post, hope people READ it.
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massehullah said:
I completely agree with you. People should definitely read more and ask less.
Great post, hope people READ it.
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Thanks.
I hope mods read it and maybe agree too.
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Rule 1 clearly states, that you shall read the thread first and then ask questions. So, most questions are answered in the first post. In my case people are asking again and again "is the rom quitable for model XY" and similar things. This is obviously a violation of rule 1. I wouldn't mind, but the threads are growing rapidly. 50% is just asking this question, 20% is "can confirm that bug xy is present" or "installation not working", while not following the instructions, which is also useless. 10% is asking for feature xy, usually for an unfinished rom, which is not working 100%. So only 20% is really information. As the threads grow and grow you are literally unable to find the information you are looking for and people don't look too, they even don't read the first post; they just ask. And the thread grows with this spam.
I hinted someone to read the first post. The answer was right there. My post was deleted with the hint "If you don't help then shut up". But really, is this necessary? I don't know if I'm the only one, but posts like these should be deleted with a hint, that the poster should read the first post. This would make the threads clearer, cleaner and shorter.
Any ideas on that?
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You're not wrong about people not searching or reading OPs. I always call Rule #1 the number one rule we don't enforce. Maybe we should somehow, but it's not really enforceable as someone could search and just miss it.
I looked through the thread and saw you answered the same question for somebody else previously so a simple search would have revealed that. When you said your post was deleted with "If you don't help then shut up", that piqued my interest so I looked into it. The issue wasn't that you hinted he search, but in the way you said it. You called the guy a spammer which started an argument so to the moderator, it looked like you were blasting someone for not searching. Had you said something like, "I answered this last week; search through the thread and you'll find it." then you most likely would have been fine. Most (all?) of us moderators don't like to spoon-feed members so we understand if you nicely tell someone to search instead of giving them the answer directly.
I get the frustration with people asking if ROM X supports Device Y, but I blame that on the manufacturers and carriers for not making things uniform, not on members. I have a Sprint HTC One m7 and so have to be very careful about flashing international variant ROMs. If the OP isn't clear if there is Sprint support, then I could brick my device. Vice versa, we have a lot of people in the Sprint fora for the device who are trying to use it on international CDMA carriers and are constantly asking about that compatibility. It can be annoying, but I see both sides.
By the way, my (PM) door's always open if you need help or just need to vent on something. I'd rather you do that then say something in thread that could get you in trouble.
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You're not wrong about people not searching or reading OPs. I always call Rule #1 the number one rule we don't enforce. Maybe we should somehow, but it's not really enforceable as someone could search and just miss it.
I looked through the thread and saw you answered the same question for somebody else previously so a simple search would have revealed that. When you said your post was deleted with "If you don't help then shut up", that piqued my interest so I looked into it. The issue wasn't that you hinted he search, but in the way you said it. You called the guy a spammer which started an argument so to the moderator, it looked like you were blasting someone for not searching. Had you said something like, "I answered this last week; search through the thread and you'll find it." then you most likely would have been fine. Most (all?) of us moderators don't like to spoon-feed members so we understand if you nicely tell someone to search instead of giving them the answer directly.
I get the frustration with people asking if ROM X supports Device Y, but I blame that on the manufacturers and carriers for not making things uniform, not on members. I have a Sprint HTC One m7 and so have to be very careful about flashing international variant ROMs. If the OP isn't clear if there is Sprint support, then I could brick my device. Vice versa, we have a lot of people in the Sprint fora for the device who are trying to use it on international CDMA carriers and are constantly asking about that compatibility. It can be annoying, but I see both sides.
By the way, my (PM) door's always open if you need help or just need to vent on something. I'd rather you do that then say something in thread that could get you in trouble.
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You're right, my tone wasn't the nicest. It's the frustration speaking through said post. The same posts over and over again...you also surely read the answer on m post, something like "deleting post of someone saying you should use the search function".
But I can't agree with the variant problem. Nearly all ROMs clear that up in the first post, most of them already in the title. If you want to flash, you need dome knowledge. You have to read before, maybe watch a YouTube video. This clears most questions.
Take a look at the carhd rom-thread from carotix. It has 1545 pages now, carotix is very active and makes frequently updates. The people are begging, some demanding, certain features which were available with mm, but not on n yet. I cannot understand how he stays so calm.
Look at the N0G33K kernel thread for the Galaxy S6. Count how often it's asked if this kernel is for n. This information is cleared up in the first post...and this is nothing else than spamming and laziness.
Maybe it would be useful to have a more concrete forced design for the op. Something unified, maybe a template which would have the information always on the same place (version, model etc.). But I guess this wouldn't stop the unnecessary questions.
Maybe a "unnecessary"-button for this kind of spam would help. A moderator could delete post and hint the poster to read the rules/op.
In a forum this big, things get lost very easily and forum searches aren't great.
One of my topics has had no responses, despite being a somewhat valid question (what phone protection do you have - case, film screen, glass)
Yet, if there were yearly versions, stickied, then simple questions would get answered in the one thread.
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But I can't agree with the variant problem. Nearly all ROMs clear that up in the first post, most of them already in the title. If you want to flash, you need dome knowledge. You have to read before, maybe watch a YouTube video. This clears most questions.
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The OP of that thread you mentioned didn't say though, or if it did, I couldn't find it. Nearly everything was hidden under hide tags, but I went through them all. Now, I will admit that I'm an HTC guy and so it might have been there in secret Samsung code and I just missed it.
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Take a look at the carhd rom-thread from carotix. It has 1545 pages now, carotix is very active and makes frequently updates. The people are begging, some demanding, certain features which were available with mm, but not on n yet. I cannot understand how he stays so calm.
Look at the N0G33K kernel thread for the Galaxy S6. Count how often it's asked if this kernel is for n. This information is cleared up in the first post...and this is nothing else than spamming and laziness.
Maybe it would be useful to have a more concrete forced design for the op. Something unified, maybe a template which would have the information always on the same place (version, model etc.). But I guess this wouldn't stop the unnecessary questions.
Maybe a "unnecessary"-button for this kind of spam would help. A moderator could delete post and hint the poster to read the rules/op.
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Yes, that is an unfortunate problem. I don't know if you saw the thread where we discussed "sharing changes", but some ideas to deal with this exact complaint came up and are being considered. If you have any feedback you'd like to add, feel free.
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In a forum this big, things get lost very easily and forum searches aren't great.
One of my topics has had no responses, despite being a somewhat valid question (what phone protection do you have - case, film screen, glass)
Yet, if there were yearly versions, stickied, then simple questions would get answered in the one thread.
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That unfortunately happens sometimes and to me, it's a shame.
Look at this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/beta-stable-lineageos-14-1-t3583456
First post after the ones from the devs is "does not work on edge". Op clearly states that is only for flat by now.
Really, I'm about to become a Nazi by reading this...